Wednesday: FSU and fear
"The Blob" (the original) was the first movie that really scared me as a kid.
-Must be nitty-gritty time in college baseball. Yesterday we had a feature on Tech pitcher Joe Mantiply; today we spotlight UVa’s Shane Halley.
-We have our first sacrificial lamb thanks (in large part) to Pujols’ struggles. Angels fire hitting coach Mickey Hatcher, who’d been with the club for 13 years.
Art Monk is part of the 2012 college football Hall of Fame class.
-The 2012 college football Hall of Fame class is announced:
PLAYERS
Charles Alexander, LSU TB (1975-78)
Otis Armstrong, Purdue TB (1969-72)
Steve Bartowski, Cal QB (1972-74)
Hal Bedsole, USC WR (1961-63)
Dave Casper, ND TE (1971-73)
Ty Detmer, BYU QB (1988-91)
Tommy Kramer, Rice QB (1973-76)
Art Monk, Syracuse WR (1976-79)
Greg Myers, Colorado State (1992-95)
Jonathan Ogden, UCLA OT (1992-95)
Gabe Rivera, Texas Tech DT (1979-82)
Mark Simoneau, Kansas State LB (1996-99)
Scott Thomas, Air Force S (1982-85)
John Wooten, Colorado OG (1956-58)
COACHES
Phillip Fulmer, Tennessee (1992-08)
Jimmy Johnson, Oklahoma State & Miami (1979-83)
R.C. Slocum, Texas A&M (1989-02)
-If you’re wondering why Frank Beamer isn’t in the Hall yet, here are the requirements: A coach becomes eligible three years after retirement or immediately following retirement, if he is at least 70 years old. For an active coach to become eligible, he must be at least 75 years of age. All coaches must have coached for a minimum of 10 years and coached at least 100 games with a .600 winning percentage.
-Thanks to everybody yesterday for the feedback on the spam filter. Glad it seems to be working better.
-Non-sports question: Can you remember the first movie that scared you?
NAME THAT TUNE
Albert’s always sincere, he’s a sensitive type
His intentions are clear, he wanna be well-liked
If everything is nothing, then are we anything?
Is it better to be better than to be anything?
And Albert’s vision is blooming uncontrolled
All his wings are slowly sinking
The world begins to disappear
The worst things come from inside here
All the king’s men reappear
For an eggman, on and off the wall
Who’ll never be together again
May 16, 2012 - 7:59 AM
First movie that scared me? Cujo…saw it when I was maybe 6…haven’t really liked dogs since. I’m not petrified of them or anything, I just don’t like them…and won’t have one. Or drive a Pinto.
Soccer is probably the most likely sport to see players flop as if they were hit by a sniper. Back in my day, I would have earned a scorn if I tried to flop, but now, it’s almost an encouraged tactic to milk as much time off by pretending to be in agony, but then the “injured” player bounces back to his feet as if nothing happened. Case in point – remember the World Cup qualifying against that team from Africa who screwed USA? In injury time, a defender laid on the pitch for so long, it killed whatever momentum USA had to potentially win or tie the game up. So many players were teed off. I don’t blame them.
Taking a charge is a risky gamble, depending on where the feet were set, the angle the referee have, and how much of a contact were made, I can see what Kobe is saying. The funny thing is, it is the Miami Heat taking the brunt of criticism that they flop. I watched some bit of the game last night, and didn’t see any flopping, just lousy plays from the Heat.
As a kid, I wasn’t allowed to watch any horror movie. When I had the chance to, the one movie that scarred me was Scream. I almost beaned my teacher with a yardstick when she wore the same costume and came out of the closest. Jeez, talk about a fight or flight instinct kicking in.
How unsurprising – a Tobacco Road reporter not understanding why schools outside of NC feel alienated in the ACC. That an argument that’s not even worth having, it’s so old.
As for Beamer’s eligibility for the HoF, he’s not going to retire until he’s well into his 70′s, so it should come shortly after his retirement. He’ll be introduced as the coach who won the most games without ever winning a national championship.
I can see the point in not taking a charge in the NBA. First of all the speed in the NBA is crazy and these are some big guys. Secondly, the NBA refs are all over the place on the calls that you’re not likely to get the charge called anyway.
As for the flop I hate it but it’s so hard to recognize sometimes.
First movie that scared me was The Omen. Very scary movie.
You have to wonder about these FSU people, don’t you? They feel like outsiders in the ACC? That’s a laugh. How are they going to feel if they were in the Big 12? They are even further ‘outside’ in the Big 12.
And they are afraid the ACC favors the North Carolina schools? Come on, that’s a laugh. The Big 12 DOES favor the University of Texas.
The attitude in Tallahassee is just bizarre.
First scary movie – the original Friday the 13th, that or Carrie.
The 1982 version of The Thing.
First movie that scared me was The Day The Earth Stood Still, the original version. Saw it on TV in the early 60′s, I was 6 or 7 years old. Had a dream that night that Gort was chasing me down the street. As an adult, The Exorcist was pretty scary.
Good HoF class. Remember everyone but Bedsole. Only remember Wooten as a pro, maybe with the Browns but I’m not sure, maybe 49ers.
“Fla. State: Just Rattling Their Spear?” Chief whatever his name is probably doesn`t want to be galloping around in Texas. Drove to lynchburg from Bedford to see “Jaws” at the old Paramont Theater when it first came out and knew nothing much about it. The only seats available were in the first row. When that guy`s head rolled out well…OJ. never liked sharks since then and vowed never to drive one of those old cars with a fin again.
I’ll be glad when the fad of jumping conferences is over. It’s sucking the fun out of college football.
“Can’t beat the SEC? Well damn, let’s just join up with them then.” What fun is that? That’s a cop out.
If a team’s move made sense geographically, then ok, I can understand that. But it seems like a lot of these moves make no sense.
The first movie that I remember really freaking me out was a movie called “From Beyond.” I’m pretty sure that was the title. That one just gave me nightmares for a long time.
FSU: Still Stuck In Their Heydays.
I think some of their fans are more mad at their program for losing their once lofty, mythical status as a football powerhouse.
I understand they have won multiple ACC titles and claimed some national championship, the last one coming at the expense of a certain Vick-led team, and since then they haven’t been back. The last time FSU won their division, they were thumped by Tyrod-led Hokies, and then there was that exciting, but brutal game they lost to Oklahoma last fall.
Nearly everybody said that if FSU have won, it would send a signal that they are baaaaaaaaaaaack! Instead, nearly everybody said, “Nope, just a bit closer to being baaaaaaaaaack.”
So, they are taking out their frustration at Swofford and the ACC as whole.
It just sound more and more like a spoiled, whiny brat who didn’t get his way.
The solution for FSU is this – start winning your division and the ACC title, then you can talk about more money all you want.
While I agree that FSU isn’t what they used to be as far as a powerhouse in college football… I don’t think that returning to their winning ways has anything to do with them talking about making more money.
College football, with the current system that is in place, is all about perception, and not on field results. Last season, the perception was that Alabama should play for a national title. But in reality, they didn’t even earn the right to play for a conference title.
As for other bowl games, they are ALL 100% perception as far as how you earn your spot in the game. True, 6 conferences get automatic BCS bids, but other than that, the perception of being a strong teams gets you a BCS game. Doesn’t have to be true, you just have to create the perception.
Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan. I was 6 when my parents took me to see it — not sure what they were thinking. I still have nightmares about the little furry things that crawled in through their ears and ate their brains…
That’s a Counting Crows song, if I’m not mistaken. Title escapes me at the moment….
1st scary movie? Dawn of the Dead. Had to check closets, under the beds, etc. at home to make sure no zombies were present for a few weeks after seeing it!
Fans of the Virginia schools, UVA and Tech, just don’t realize the difference that the disparity of funds makes when trying to compete against your instate rival.
The big TV money in the SEC is starting to give a tremendous advantage to Florida, South Carolina, and Georgia against their ACC rivals FSU, Clemson, and Georgia Tech.
I’ve seen estimates that the SEC schools will receive an additional $150 million per school over the next 10 years compared to the ACC schools. That doesn’t matter much to VT and UVA, because neither school has the financial advantage over the other because of conference affiliation. FSU, Clemson, and Georgia Tech are screwed.
On the bright side, if FSU and Clemson do bolt for the BIG 12, then VT will probaby be invited to the SEC…along with a North Carolina school…and Hokie fans will get to garner the spoils of the never ending conference expansion game.
Hokie Gal gave me the hint. Counting Crows-Mrs. Jones.
FSU just needs to remember that the grass is not always greener. VCU may learn that lesson soon jumping from the CAA to the A-10. More exposure and a little extra cash may not help if your travel costs eat up the increased conferfence payout and the league is more competitive than the one your leaving. FSU football may be a sleeping giant, but reaching the top tier of the Big 12 or SEC would take years, if it were to happen at all.
Jaws in the summer of ’76 scarred my 9 year old butt off. Then a year or two later I saw The Omen. It was scarrier. I have refused to watch it a second time.
Hokie Gal has the artist. Still looking for the title (not Mr. Jones).
FSU all about the Benjamins ..once again .How about trying to win consistently ..
UVA beat them last year at their place and Wake beat them too just to name some …
Movie no question about it …..Alfred Hitchcock’s “The Birds”
Back in the day , NBC used to have Saturday Night at the Movies…
My parents were going out for evening and my younger sis and I were at home ..We tuned in to watch ….As the storyline unfolded ..birds starting acting rather frisky ..I mean pecking stuff. The Orrie looked over at sis and says , ” What’s this about ?” Well sis had already gone for the pillow and was holding it nervously as the people became the target. Needless to say,this scared the “bejesus” out of us. We managed to make it to the end but had already secured the home ,locking every door, window , anxiously awaiting our parents return .Damn that Hitchcock !
Though I loved it, letting a four-year-old watch “Ghostbusters” has its drawbacks. For years I opened the frig very slowly in fear of Zuul attacks.
It also didn’t do me any favors at Vacation Bible School. Apparently that was one of those places it’s not cool to tell other kids, “When someone asks if you’re a god, you say yes!”
“I’m only human…” But that isn’t your song today
I am still laughing at Florida State. The Hardin article is good enough for the opening routine of a Leno-like sports show. They really need to follow Big 12 sports.
U of Texas: $150 million/year in revenue. #1 in the nation. Their own network.
U of Florida: $128 million. FSU prime competitior. SEC.
FSU: $78 million. OK, I get it. They think money is in the Big 12.
Hey FSU – check out how the other Big 12 teams are doing. Go there and DIE. But if you think its the place to be, have at it.
How ’bout them Spurs?
Trevor, as for soccer flopping. Well, jeez I hate to say this because I am such a never-was soccer player but, no one ever flopped against me when I played because they didn’t need to. I had already knocked them down or tripped them or ran over them. “Slam bam” was my only defense because I played at 195 lbs and was slower than the competition. We played a 2 fullback, 5 attacker set (shows how old I am – this went out with the wing-T) and our job was to clear balls and kick people. I never had to go more than 20 meters to make contact so it was all about angles and not fouling in the area. This is why Alexi Lalas is my hero. He made a career by kicking the crap out of people.
H24, first, like you, I’m having the conference realignment/expansion fatigue. Two years and folks can’t stop talking about it. Not even the BCS’ doing away with the AQ is putting an end to the speculations as long as it’s about the almighty dollars through tv contracts.
As for the precepts, unfortunately, it seem to me folks measure how well the ACC does based on Florida State and Miami’s success on field. It’s the same way if UNC and Duke struggle in basketball, and every pundits declares the ACC is down, which I think is absolutely ridiculous.
It also seem to me FSU brass (the trustees) want FSU to be calling the shots and are employing some strong-armed tactic to force the issue.
Finally remembered the title! Einstein on the Beach, right?
Einstein ofn the Beach
#10 “their once lofty, mythical status as a football powerhouse.”
Really? Mythical? 152-19-1 from ’87 to ’00, 2 NC’s, 9 consecutive ACC championships (w/ ties), never finishing the season being ranked below #5. What’s mythical about that?
Einstein on the Beach
Einstein on the Beach it is.
Twitter rumors from the ACC meetings say that the ACC is in discussion with FSU about giving them more money to stay…but there’s no way that they can match the BIG 12 money. Now Clemson (and other schools) are po’d at Swofford for even making that offer. Clemson was already po’d anyway. I swear, I really feel that unless the football schools are offered a bigger share of the pie…which is against everything that the ACC was established for…FSU and Clemson are gone.
Alexi Lalas! What’s the dude up to these days? I remember his rangy red hair and headband as he was a defender for the New England Revolutions. Walter Zenga was the goalkeeper with him on the squad, and that was who I modeled my goalkeeping skill from, I loved it when he would keep his feet moving when charging from the net.
@scott w, yes, mythical. I think that’s actually a complimentary term, even if I was using it sarcastically. Since 2000, FSU have claimed only 1 title. And Clemson have the most ACC titles at 14 whereupon FSU trails with 2.
“As for the precepts, unfortunately, it seem to me folks measure how well the ACC does based on Florida State and Miami’s success on field. It’s the same way if UNC and Duke struggle in basketball, and every pundits declares the ACC is down, which I think is absolutely ridiculous.”
I agree. It’s ridiculous that the ACC is judged in football by FSU and Miami and in basketball by UNC and Duke.
I do think Virginia Tech is headed towards being that measuring stick for the ACC in football. The results since joining the league don’t lie. It’s been VT’s football conference since 2004. That still doesn’t mean I like the assumption that any league should be judged by the strength of one team though. I think that in the near future, football in the ACC will be primarily between FSU and the Hokies.
Trevor, I’m a Tiger and take pride in the fact that Clemson has the 14 titles, however, they have all come since 1953. FSU has gotten their 12 since 1993.
Some guy on Tomahawknation.com did a lot of research showing the “values” of each ACC school to the conference. The mainly included the number of TV viewers that each school had watching their games per the amount of money that each school getting from ESPN, etc. The most “valuable” schools according to this guys research are (1) FSU, (2) Clemson, (3) UNC, (4) Miami, (5) Virginia Tech, (6) Duke , and then the other 6 dwarfs.
Duke, only finished in the 6th position because of the amount of times that the basketball team is shown. They brought NOTHING to the table with football, which is where the TV money truly comes from. Virginia Tech, surprisingly, pulled a strong number 4 for viewership in basketball.
The point of the research was to prove that the “football schools”…FSU, Clemson, Miami, and Virginia Tech were the true bread winners supporting the rest of the conference. UNC and Duke, obviously, carried the basketball, however, that’s not where the big money comes from.
That is why FSU is feeling that it isn’t getting eneough compensation for the dollars that it brings to the conference. And when your instate rival (Florida) is projected to get about $150 million more over the next 10 years through their SEC ties and your athletic department is already running in the red, panic is starting to set in at FSU. And if FSU leaves, Clemson will leave, too!
First scary movie, and some will laugh at me for this…The Wizard of Oz. Those damn flying monkeys gave me nightmares more than a couple of nights and they still give me the willies at 47. They rank right up there with how creepy I still think clowns are.
Scary movie? How about it Seth? “I was always recruiting and didn`t have time for movies. All the Presidents Men and Gone with the Wind sound kind of scary though.” Cody, good to see you again. Scary movie? “4:20 to Yuma for sure. All those gun fights, you know.” Yes. Ah.. believe it was the 3:10 to Yuma but you make a good point. Tiger, how about you. “The Lorena Bobbitt Story-only watched it once.” I didn`t even know they made a movie about that…affair. John Sandusky. What movie scared you? “The Shawshank Redemption, for sure” Really? I thought that had a happy ending. “Nah, my copy ran out before he got to the creek”
Ralph’s on his game today, folks. And Bobby Clark’s sweeping in with some good stuff from the Clemson perspective. Actually, the discussion overall has been great for a midweek day in May, for sure.
Trevor — Lalas is actually a (fairly) well-groomed ESPN soccer analyst now. Speaks his mind. Can be very critical of U.S. team at times, which I like.
Salem’s Lot (scariest TV movie ever) and the Shining.
If FSU feels disrespected now, I can’t wait to see how they feel being in the same conference with Texas and Oklahoma. Maybe they should take note – teams are leaving the Big 12, not joining.
Counting Crows, Einstein on the Beach… For an eggman.
Let’s go O’s!