Tuesday: More bowling; Hokies hoops steps up in class
WHERE TO? Andy writes that it’s anybody’s guess where the Hokies will go bowling. My guess is the Russell Athletic Bowl in Orlando. The fact that Tech’s never been there and the firing of Tom O’Brien at N.C. State both enhance Tech’s chances at that bid.
JACKETS: Also in that story, Andy gets into the Georgia Tech discussion we had yesterday:
Last season, UCLA was granted a waiver to play in a bowl with a 6-7 record after losing the Pac-12 title game to Oregon. But the NCAA’s Board of Directors specifically addressed that scenario in August, outlining a selection protocol that created a pecking order of pools of teams to be chosen for a bowl should there not be enough eligible schools.
Conference champions who finished 6-7 are on that list, but that’s only if there aren’t enough bowl-eligible teams. Right now, there are 70 eligible teams for 70 slots in 35 bowls, which could create a BCS-or-bust scenario for the Yellow Jackets.
ACC officials confirmed that Georgia Tech has filed a waiver to be bowl eligible in the event of a loss in the league title game, although no one seems quite certain how the NCAA will rule now that the scenario is written explicitly into the rules. It’s unclear if the ACC’s contractual agreements with certain bowls will play into that decision.
SO… I’m thinking Rick was right yesterday. The Lawsuit Bowl might kick off the postseason should the NCAA allow GT in over some 6-6 team ahead of it in the pecking order laid out by the NCAA.
RARE WHIFF: For the first time since joining the ACC in 2004, no Hokies make first team all-conference. UVa left tackle Oday Aboushi and linebacker Steve Greer did make it. Tech’s second team selections were defensive end James Gayle, linebacker Jack Tyler and cornerback Antone Exum.
FOREVER YOUNG: Doughty writes that the Virginia football team has some good young pieces to build on defensively.
STEPPING UP: The 5-0 Hokies face their first team from a major conference tonight when they host Iowa in the Big Ten/ACC challenge. “They’re big, they’re strong and they’re physical, and we haven’t seen that yet,” coach James Johnson says. “So we’ll see how we do against that.”
STEPPING UP, PART II: Duke moves up to No. 2 in the latest AP poll. UNC is 14th and N.C. State is 18th.
LONGO LOCKED UP: Evan Longoria signs a contract that could keep him in a Rays uniform through 2013.
OLD CAM: Cam Newton throws two touchdown passes and runs for two scores as the Panthers hand the Eagles their seventh straight loss.
NEW YORK STATE OF MIND: The Nets top the Knicks 96-89 in overtime in the first meeting since moving to Brooklyn.
NAME THAT TUNE:
Come lay beside me, this won’t hurt I swear
She loves me not, she loves me still, but she’ll never love again
She lay beside me, but she’ll be there when I’m gone
Black heart scarring darker still, yes she’ll be there when I’m gone
Yes, she’ll be there when I’m gone
Dead sure she’ll be there…
November 27, 2012 - 6:41 AM
Go Panthers! That may not be enough to save Ron Rivera’s job at this point. The Eagles looked pretty good with Foles behind center, but I think Vick would have been better because the Panthers were constantly pressuring the quarterback.
As for tonight’s hoops, VT has to step up now. They need to be active on the glass, quick in transition defense, and not giving up easy baskets. Their conditioning are going to play a factor tonight. I think Hokies have the chance to make a statement tonight with a win over Iowa. Best of luck to all ACC schools this week. #goacc
Unforgiven 2. Metallica.
Unforgiven 2 it is. Nicely done.
I still think the big difference here is GT, like UCLA last year, is only in the championship game because the teams that should be aren’t eligible. So my question is, could UCLA or GT have turned down the conference championship in order to guarantee a bowl?
Logically I would say no they can’t and you would never want to send that message to your team, but if the bowl is better financially I could see a reason for wanting to play a bowl game instead.
Of course, the people in Blacksburg are glad that it is not the Hokies going to the ACCCG and then they would be on the bubble looking in.
Weaver seemed to think GT would get the waiver last night on the HH but cautioned that GT went to the Sun Bowl last year so it would be very unlikely that they would go to El Paso this year.
Most likely scenario is:
FSU to the Orange Bowl.
Clemson to the CFA bowl
Duke to Charlotte
Then it gets dicy and is just my guess:
GT to the Music City bowl (if they go at all)
NCSU to the Sun Bowl
VT to Orlando, but I wouldn’t rule out no GT bid at all, and one of those bowls (the last in the pecking order) having to get a CUSA team.
It seems to me though, that lost in all of this is a bowl having a say in who they get to invite.
A question I have is obviously the SEC is not going to have 2 teams in the title game, so the SEC loser will get an at large BCS bid, can the SEC get a 2nd at large bid (LSU)?
The Yellow Jackets are back and that is so cool!!! VT lucked out and beat them in the last 40 seconds early in the year but it is the Jackets that end up in the ACC Championship. Now I know there is a God, even He knows how overated those Hokies are every year. But He might allow them to be in a good bowl game, maybe the Champs Bowl in Orlando if they are humble and behave themselves and Frank Beamer quits making excuses and owns up to his own ineptness as a coach.
@4 – Great thought there OG maybe with the disclaimer – that “you dance with who brung ya”. a team that wins their division and refuses to play in the ACCCG would stink up the place a bit. But in this world today some are talking about going over the fiscal cliff to save the country’s economy. That rational needs real faith to see it thru! Go for the money??
Good song choice, shame I got here a bit late!
Looking forward to seeing what the Hokies do on the court tonight against a stiffer opponent. I’m thinking the lack of depth and rebounding difficulties, especially offensive rebounding, will begin to take their toll going forward, especially into ACC play. I’m still sticking to my 12/4 win prediction. I like what I’ve seen…the up-tempo play and their shooting have been nice to watch…but they haven’t really faced anyone difficult yet (combined record of 7-19 now, VMI is best at 3-3). The FT shooting has also markedly improved from the first 2 games. The TO’s are a bit up too, but I think that’s a product of the play style and will have to be watched going into tougher play as well. But, I think the new style should help draw some better recruits, and I’ll say that 2 years from now, VT is competing for an NCAA spot.
Regarding the all-ACC selections, I am a bit surprised that defensively, the Hokies only got second-teamers. I would have figured at least 1 first-team player, especially since UVA got 2, but it is what it is. No surprise at all about the offense having nothing to show for it. The defense really clamped down after the UNC game and got to where I tend to expect it to be. Bud Foster got his unit playing well. The offense? Another story. Despite 12 games and some glaring weaknesses early in the year, nothing really changed the whole season. They still can’t run well, have trouble blocking, can’t effectively pass, can’t score in the Red Zone with any regularity, etc…and many of those problems span more than just this season.
Offensively, VT finished 72nd, tied with Western Kentucky, for yards per game…which equates to 60th in passing yards per game, and 67th in rushing. They were 70th in 3rd down conversion rate, but 108th in 4th down conversions. They were 76th in the number of first downs, which is right in line with the other middling results…so was the 79th in scoring (but only averaged 23.4 ppg against BCS opposition. Take out Duke, and they averaged just 21.4 ppg…that’s pretty pathetic). If their scoring could have kept pace with the other offensive stats, they would have been a field goal per game better in points. It might have helped with Cincy, and could have helped with FSU…but other than those 2 games, the other 4 losses were bad double-digit losses that only would have been reversed by simply not faceplanting.
For the defense, they finished 40th in scoring, 24th in yards per game (34th in total passing, 39th in total rushing), 18th in sacks, 43rd in interceptions, and 60th in passes defended. The numbers were good enough to win games, but hurt by some big games by a few opponents. The special teams were decent, for the most part. Kicking was good, though the kickoffs were not. Punts were improved, but still bottom half of D-1. The return game was really the bright spot, with kickoff returns averaging 22nd, and punt returns averaging 30th.
My point with all that? Defensively, they started poorly but got a lot better, and by the second half of the season were performing how we expect them to. But the offense never showed that kind of growth. They couldn’t move the ball or score on tougher defenses, and even against mediocre to poor defenses, they struggled for points. Some of that was effort and execution lapses by the players, some of it is bad game planning, and a lot of it is failure to change and adapt by the offensive coaches. There needs to be changes, but there likely won’t be. This year will be written off as a rebuilding year, and that the coaches need more time with the players to make positive adjustments. Next year they will probably fall in to 8 +/-1 wins…and I would lean toward the under or a push.
Hearing words through the grapevine that Chris Petersen may be linked to the Arkansas head coaching job. If it turns out to be true, the SEC better take note, he’s a damned fine football coach.
Trevor,
I agree that Petersen is a good coach but he has turned down overtures to leave before. Dan Hawkins was also highly thought of (from BSU also) and left to go to Colorado and promptly crashed that program so badly that Embree got fired this year in 2 years on the job for not righting the Hawkins disaster soon enough.
Success at Boise does not necessarily = success in the SEC.
Barry, I don’t think VT beat GT in the last 40 seconds, I am pretty sure that game went to overtime. Lay off the Kool aid before noon…..
According to wikipedia, after the Orange Bowl, ACC bowls are picked in the following order:
- Chick-fil-A
- Russell Athletic
- Sun
- Belk
- Music City
- Independence
If there are only 6 teams eligible, Independence is out. If there are only 5 teams eligible, Music City is out.
VT’s selection will be interesting. They did not travel well to the Sugar Bowl last year, and the fan base is even less enthused this year. I think the Belk Bowl would be thrilled to have them, but that would require one of the other bowls betting against Duke fans traveling to either Orlando or El Paso.
If I were betting today, I would guess the following:
1. Orange — FSU
2. Chick-Fil-A — Clemson
3. Russell Athletic — VT
4. Sun — NC State
5. Belk — Duke
Bob, on the SEC at-large bids, no, they cannot get two at-large bids and championship spot. There is a provision for a conference to get 3 teams in, but it has be a situation where #1 and #2 come from the same conference, and neither was the conference champion. That allows the participating bowls that have conference champion spots to fulfill those.
Basically, for that to happen, you have an upset in conference championship game. Last year, for example, Bama could’ve been #1 going in, LSU #2, or something similar, Bama lose to USC (I think that’s who played in it), only drop to #2, because maybe highly team or two got beat and they didn’t drop, and then you could have had LSU-Bama in the title game, and South Carolina in the Sugar.
I think the SEC loser is the big loser, because I think Florida gets the at-large spot, not the loser of Bama-UGA.
RP, I think that ‘selection order’ is pretty much just to determine which bowl(s) get left without an ACC team should there not be enough eligible.
I don’t think the process is as much like a “draft” as people think it is.
There is a lot of dialogue with the ACC office as to who goes where.
You also have to remember, two of these matchups are with BE teams. Tech has played 2 BE teams that could create re-matches, if Pitt makes it, so there is a good bit of finessing done to prevent that from happening if at all possible.
Bob H, fair points, on all of them. However, I would argue there’s a world of difference between Colorado and Arkansas. Arkansas have the fanbase, the funds, and pipeline talents to suits Petersen’s no-nonsense, pro-style offense that could work very well for that quarterback whose name escapes me at the moment, and the talents in the backfield. Also, very true that Petersen have turned down high profile jobs before, so we’ll see if there’s anything going for him to come to Arkansas. Truthfully, I would love for him to coach someday in Blacksburg, but by the time that happens, he might not be considered the ideal candidate at the time.
There’s quite some interesting hire that is going to take place soon. Already heard that several agents have told their clients to stay away from Kentucky. It seem that Kentucky is being viewed as a dead-end, career-killing job since the fans are more obessesed with the basketball program.
OJ, your points on the basketball team are well made, however, I would say that Tech has a lot of chance to really make a statement against Iowa tonight. It’ll be interesting to see what Iowa will do to slow down the tempo.
Rick,
There may be some negotiating between bowls, but there is definitely a selection order with these bowl tie-ins. Otherwise, teams would be selected purely on record. But teams that don’t travel well are routinely passed over by teams with larger fan bases but worse records.
Northwestern, Boston College and Vanderbilt all come to mind in recent years as teams that have been spurned by bowls in order to get more fans. Just last year, UVA made the Chick-Fil-A bowl (#2 ACC bowl) with a worse record than other teams purely because the CFA Bowl Committee thought their fans would be more interested than the teams ahead of them by record
Somewhere in the ACC headquarter, John Swofford was weeping and wailing because of the ugliness of the ACCCG match up on Saturday. According to a pretigious blog, the ACCCG is struggling to sell tickets in Charlotte, and that is not surprising. If it was UNC or Miami or Duke as the match up against FSU, folks would be gobbling it up, but instead of it is FSU and GT.
That match up is as ugly as a redneck’s mullet.
If I was ESPN, I would boycott the ACCCG, because they know eyeballs are going to be watching the SEC, PAC-12, or B1G championship games, unless the great state of Florida tunes in to watch a snoozefest in Charlotte.
#BoycottACCCG
Trevor, absolutely…the Hokies have a great opportunity tonight to show us what they’ve got. Big Ten hoops are sometimes awful to watch with the slow, deliberate, low-scoring pace they usually employ, so having that contrasted with the new up-tempo pace for VT will be interesting. The next 3 games will go a long way to testing their new style…Iowa, Oklahoma State, and WVU have a combined 11-4 record. While WVU is 1-3, 2 of their losses are to Gonzaga and Oklahoma (combined 10-1)…with the 3rd a close loss to Davidson, who while 3-3 is no slouch.
Iowa & VT should be a fairly even match-up, but a victory for VT would hardly be a ‘statement’ win. Iowa’s best win to date this year is probably Western Kentucky or Gardner Webb — both schools that are comparable to the teams that VT has beaten to date. Iowa lost by double digits to Wichita State, which is probably the best team on their schedule thus far. Just like VT is down from previous years, Iowa appears to be in full-blown rebuilding mode this year.
But I am happy to see VT playing a legitimate major-conference school, for once.
In reference to Trevor in how bad the ticket sell’s for the ACCCG you can get a ticket for $4.00… How they going to show this game on ESPN with a half empty stadium??
http://www.stubhub.com/acc-championship-football-tickets/2012-acc-championship-game-12-1-2012-4041292/
One Comp Geek, I know, I’m trying to unload my tickets. My wife and I are wishing we didn’t waste money on purchasing them in advance. *sigh*
BREAKING NEWS: Big East added Tulane and East Carolina in 2014. ECU will be football only member. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL. Too bad that the Big East can’t be renamed to AFC, because that is more approriate, unless rumor that Boise State and San Diego State decides to stay west by rejoining the MWC.
VT was a football member only for the BE for a number of years, no shame in that. ECU has been passed over for lesser schools before so I am glad to see then get a BE tie in. At least they do bring something to the table.
Navy is dragging on their commitment to the BE and no one ever thought Boise or SDSU was a good fit for the BE so I wouldn’t be surprised if they never join given what is left of the BE since they originally agreed.
Not so sure Florida gets the at large SEC bid if Alabama wins the title game. Seems to me the better team was decided in the field of play already. Not sure the SEC doesn’t nix that and not sure Florida brings any more to the plate than Georgia does.
But, I just watch the games……
Interesting Trevor. To me that was the beginning of the end for the Big East anyway. The Big East had a great basketball program going and then they expanded for football. Then they started adding schools for some sports but not others. I think it really takes away your identity when nobody can tell you who is in your conference. You have team A in these sports but not these, and team B in those sports but not these. What a mess.
Speaking of changes, it’s that annual time of the year where other coaching jobs come open and people speculate about Bud Foster getting an interview. Personally I don’t think he gets an interview this year because every team I’ve seen with an opening says they want a coach with HC experience. I think the opportunities passed him by years ago. I would have liked to have seen what he could have done running a program but I think he ends his career as the DC for Tech and retires shortly after Beamer.
VT will be going to the Music City Bowl, you can mark that one down now. Georgia Tech will beat FSU and that will scramble VT’s eggs.
To Barry, you should get a life. Are you the same Barry who predicted GT would pull an upset last week? lol GT will be trounced again this week and maybe then you will overdose on your coolaide. I distinctly remember GT losing to the Hokies in the first game this year. Another way of sayng that,(because you are a little slow on the uptake)is the Hokies BEAT your little bee’s!
College football have gone mad. The ACC files a lawsuit against Maryland. Comment, Aaron?
Grand Canyon University is joining the WAC. Didn’t know such university existed.
Tulane and ECU in the big east.
Mark stoops is reportedly to be the next Kentucky head coach.
Madness. And it is not even march.
Barry,
I see you are back at the Kool aid again.
I have a picture of Andy Jackson that says GT doesn’t beat FSU. Can go to a picture of US Grant or Ben Franklin if you want.
Are you game?
The Hurryin’ Hokies 2.0 will get their first real test tonight. How they handle it will give a clue to what the rest of the season will hold. Give them credit when they keep the ball moving rapidly up & down the court. 3 point shooting is great, and plentiful, as is FT shooting.
Areas needing drastic improvement are rebounding, especially on the offensive side. Also, transition defense needs work.
So far, we’ve done well against one of the easiest schedules in the nation, literally. The issues to watch in the coming three games are the factors above, not the scoreboard so much. The reason we struggled to free ourselves from UNCG & AppState is because we got away from what was working, and began playing a slower pace.
Bob H…I simply cannot bear to take your hard earned money. Hapless VT almost beat FSU and hapless NC State did beat them. Do the math…can the Bees win? Certainly they can, they have lots to play for; this is their bowl game. Have a Kool Aid on me because you will need it after the big upset on Saturday night. The Bees will sting again!!!!!!!!!
Barry,
What if FSU studies the GT/Middle Tennessee game film or the GT/BYU game film, or even last week’s game film against UGa?
Only thing GT has going for it is that Stoops is leaving to go to UK (I guess being a washout as a HC before doesn’t matter to the desperate Wildcats).
I am not as sure as you are that that will be enough.
And, unlike you, I would definitely like to get my hands on one of your Benjamins.
Barry,I predict that after Saturday night your little flies,mosquitoes or whatever they are will be back in their hive, licking their wounds!
FYI, for anyone going to the game tonight and heading back to Roanoke or points north afterward, VDOT has announced lane closures starting around 9:00 p.m. at mile marker 126-128 for removal of a burned semi that has been sitting along the shoulder the past several days.
Awfully nice of them to schedule this right at the end of the game.
Before any of you guys throw me in the heap with Bee-stricken-Barry here, let me just clarify what I based my prediction on yesterday’s thread of a GT victory in th ACCCG….solely on the facts that ACC football this year has had some unpredictable twists and turns to it all year. It would be par for the course if GT pulls the upset Saturday and throws the Bowl picture into a lurch. And as much as I hate to agree with Barry, the Fact that Tech had FSU on the ropes and couldn’t knock them off their feet, paired with the FSU loss to NC State (who got trounced by an awful UVa team by the way) tells me the Seminoles could get beat Saturday if GT brings their best game and gets a couple of breaks (turnovers, defensive touchdown, Special teams points). You can just never tell and that’s why they line up and play the game. For the record I don’t like either one of them very much and couldn’t care less either way….well, OK, I stretched the truth there a little. I’d like to see the Jackets send the Seminoles to a second tier bowl. Try not to gloat too much Barry if by Saturday night we end up right on the prediction.
The genius on this message board is Scott Whitaker; I would like to know his honest opinion on the GT-FSU game. Is it realistic to think the Bees can win?
That’s it. I have had enough of Barry’s nonsense, so I’m going to crunch the number for everybody and let everyone draw their conclusion.
Rushing
Easy. GT #1 in the ACC in rushing yards (323.3 average/game). DUH! They run old school triple-option (I don’t give a rat’s fart that Paul Johnson calls his offense the spread-option, that’s just putting lipstick on a fat pig) that emphasis heavy read and run. It’s a throw back to the single-wing days. FSU is #2 in rushing. No surprise there as FSU likes to mix it up to keep defense honest.
Edge: GT, hands down.
Passing
Edge: FSU, averaging 273.7 via the air. No surprise there. Paul Johnson’s run-heavy offense doesn’t utilizes passing often, but when he does, it usually catches defense napping, BUT, GT is DEAD LAST in the ACC in passing.
Total Offense
FSU is #2 while GT is #4. So, I’m putting this as a push.
Rushing Defense
FSU is #1 in this category, surrendering 32.1 yards on the ground. GT is #5 in this category, 34.4 yards on the ground. Marked improvement since CPJ had the balls to fire grandpa Al Groh.
Edge: FSU
Passing Defense
FSU is again #1 in this category, giving up an average of 164.3 yards in the air. GT is #7, giving up 248.0 yards in the air.
Edge: FSU
Total Defense
What a shocker! FSU is #1 in this category again! Lands’ alive! GT is #10. LOLOLOLOLOLOL. That’s not going to cut it.
Edge: FSU
So, I’m going with FSU on this one. I think Manuel will be lighting up GT like a Christmas tree. What bears to watch is how the defense line takes away the chop-blocking of the GT’s OL, which is why the triple-option became
outlawedin the 60s due to rising injuries with the chop blocking.In any case, I SURE AS HELL AM NOT GOING TO WATCH THIS SORRY EXCUSE OF UGLY AS A REDNECK’S MULLET GAME!
Bob H and others…If Florida remains fourth, they are guaranteed a BCS berth. Similarly, if Kent State jumps UCLA and makes 16th place in the BCS, they are guaranteed a spot, since they will be rated above a BCS auto qualifier (Big East). The latter would probably push Ollahoma out of the BCS.
Good to see VT play a real opponent tonight.
Extra 16 practices for bowl teams serves as another spring practice–an under appreciated benefit for those teams.
If you guys would just ignore Barry for a while he’ll go away. I look at the submitter before reading.
No, I am not going away; I am the voice of truth on this board. Manuel is too inconsistent, if he has a bad day, GT will take him to the cleaners. There is also the factor, very tangibly, on how teams match up with each other. GT matches well with FSU; they will not be denied. FSU had the wind taken out of their sails by Florida, got nothing left to beat the Bees. This game is played on the field, not on paper useless statistics.
Barry, as nuch as I find you irritating and grating you are right once in a while. I don;t see it – but who knows.
VT just punched out Iowa. Goodness the kids look like they are having FUN!
Its good to see. I can’t remeber them ever having fun with SG in charge. Not saying it was the right move but fresh air looks good so far.
Congrats to the Hurryin’ Hokies 2.0! Picked up a great win tonight over a solid Iowa team. Defense is still in need of work, but the offense performed against a quality opponent not inclined to run the court, so that’s a good thing.
Next up-Oklahoma State.
Iowa did not look that great, their defense was horrible. Who did they beat earlier?
Also, their next opponent will be the litmus test for the Hokies, that being OK State. Oklahoma State’s latest victims are NC State, Portland State and Tennessee.
Nice, Other John…..!!
Hang in there, Barry. I think you’re cool.
BfI, you can’t play the ‘Their next game is the real test’ angle and keep moving it if they win. Yes, the OkState game will be a real test, but the Iowa game was also a real test. Give credit where due, Johnson’s guys came through on that one. There will be lots of tests as we get into ACC play, but that’s the nature of the game. This was a really good win for the team, and the confidence boost will help them against OkState. We can’t win all of them, but the more the better.
My observations this season will be mostly about style of play and effort in key areas, not the W-L totals, though those are important. So far, they’re grading out very well. Congrats to Johnson & company, keep up the great play!
Every November top basketball programs like Duke, UNC, Michigan State, Kentucky, etc. arrange to tango with one another in high school caliber gymnasiums in Hawaii, Carribean resort hotel ballrooms, on top of aircraft carriers, inside Tibetan monasteries, on top of my beer gut, etc. etc. They do this because obviously it’s crucial to rack up high quality victories (and unlike college football, the cost of losing isn’t what you would call high) and they want to mutually inflate their RPIs and SOSs. It’s like some kind of not-so-secret handshake pact between college basketball’s elite.
***********That’s also why Michigan State can make the 2011 NCAA tournament with a 19-14 overall record (wow, IMPRESSIVE!!!!) and a 9-9 conference record (SUPERB!!!). Because it self-flagellated itself with its schedule. WHACK!—-THANK YOU SIR MAY I HAVE ANOTHER?—WHACK!*********
So my question is, why can’t VT JOIN IN ON THE FUN with elite matchups and preseason tournaments taking place on top of my beer gut? I guess it’s like a high school clique where only the COOL KIDS (UNC, Duke, MSU, Kentucky, Louisville, etc.) ARE ALLOWED, EH??????????
VT_Bubble_Boy getting us off to a nice start this morning with that one. Thank you sir.
Briefing should be up a few minutes after 9. Louisville to ACC.
Didn’t get to watch the game last night but I really am impressed with the new style of play of the Fun and Gun Hokies. JJ is just letting his guys relax and play ball and it seems to be working for this group he has. Can’t believe the Hokies are averaging near or above 90 points a game and am hoping they can keep up that kind of pace given they are playing only eight or nine players. I know it hasn’t been against top shelf competition, but still impressive. First time Hokie BB has been 6-0 since 1982-83.
I do hope for Barry’s sake that if GT wins the ACC Championship they will at least be able to keep it this time. The article points out that they had not won it in 19 years, so that is now 21 years without the Championship. If my math is correct, I believe VT has won that title 4 times in 9 years. History, what does it matter? Especially when it’s not on your side…
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/campusrivalry/post/2011/07/georgia-tech-football-ncaa-investigation/1#.ULYXfoVZat4