Thursday: Tourney time
THIS IS ONE OF THOSE DAYS SO MANY OF US CIRCLE, so be sure to enjoy it. The NCAA tournament hits its stride today, and here is a viewer’s guide to all the games. The first — Valpo at Michigan — tips at 12:15 p.m. and features Hidden Valley grad and former Hokie Ben Boggs playing for Valpo (Berman feature on Boggs here).
Things really get cranking at 1:40 when you start having overlapping games. Hope you get to catch a good deal of the action.
Here are the odds to win the whole thing (to compute odds to 1, just move the decimal two places to left, so Indiana is 5-to-1, etc.):
Louisville +450
Indiana +500
Florida +700
Duke +800
Gonzaga +900
Kansas +1000
Miami Florida +1000
Ohio State +1400
Georgetown +1600
New Mexico +1600
Michigan +2000
Michigan State +2000
Syracuse +2200
Saint Louis +2500
Wisconsin +2800
Pittsburgh +4000
Arizona +5000
Marquette +5000
North Carolina +5000
VA Commonwealth +5000
Kansas State +6600
North Carolina State +6600
UNLV +6600
Butler +8000
Memphis +10000
Minnesota +10000
Oklahoma State +10000
UCLA +10000
Creighton +12500
Missouri +12500
Notre Dame +12500
Oregon +12500
San Diego State +12500
California +15000
St Marys +15000
Cincinnati +20000
Colorado State +20000
Illinois +20000
Iowa State +20000
Mississippi +20000
Temple +20000
Akron +25000
Belmont +25000
Bucknell +25000
Davidson +25000
Oklahoma +30000
South Dakota State +30000
LAST NIGHT’S NCAA: Ex-Hokie Tyrone Garland scores 22 points to lead La Salle past Boise State 80-71. Meanwhile, JMU beats LIU-Brooklyn 68-55.
SHOWCASING: Andy has a story on the Hokies’ pro day yesterday, which included Bruce Taylor trying to improve on a combine 40 time that was slowest among all linebackers.
SMOKE SEEKS SPARK: Here’s Nappy’s feature on Tony Stewart’s slow start to the season.
STILL STREAKING: Miami wins its 24th straight but has to work for it in Cleveland, overcoming a 27-point second half deficit for a 98-95 win.
-Virginia’s next game in the NIT will be against St. John’s either Sunday or Monday.
-Two franchise stalwarts appear to be moving on. Ed Reed has agreed to a deal with the Texans and the Bears say they’re willing to move forward without Brian Urlacher.
-Yankees GM Brian Cashman says he doesn’t know if Derek Jeter will be ready for opening day. Adjust your fantasy drafting accordingly.
-Hanley Ramirez has an injured thumb, and the Dodgers are concerned he could miss up to two months. Adjust accordingly.
NAME THAT TUNE
Since you’ve gone I’ve been lost without a trace
I dream at night, I can only see your face
I look around but it’s you I can’t replace
I feel so cold and I long for your embrace
I keep calling baby, baby please…



That photo of a young Jeter looked more than a little bit like a your DiMaggio. Just sayin’.
Really good article by RKing on Smoke. I really admire Stewart. I especially like that he is still just as honest as ever. The media has softened towards him, while pretending TS is the one who has changed the most. Tony knows where to pick his battles now, and being an owner has given him new layers of context.
Ben Boggs? Good for him. I’m glad he found a situation that worked for him. Seth Greenberg was on him and offered him WAY before anyone else thought about doing so. Bogg’s injuries seemed to diminish the spark plug nature of his game. I don’t think either SG or BB ever thought he’d be a big star at VT, but that he would be an important role player. It seemed like Boggs never got it rolling at Tech, though. Nice to see his final season at Valpo is one to remember. Even more nice to see his academic excellence being rewarded. I’d guesstimate that he is the type of guy/gym rat who would make a good coach at the collegiate level.
Tried to say – ‘a YOUNG DiMaggio’. Oops.
Oh – Every Breath You Take – Sting.
I only know the old songs.
The Police-King of Pain
Today is one of the best days in sports. I know several people who take the first two days of the tournament off from work just so they can watch the NCAA. I recall doing that one year with my brother, New Yorker subs and the 12:00 games. It was a blast.
Here’s a follow-up to the gas tank question from yesterday. Inall newer model cars, there is either a triangle or samll arrow near your gas gauge. It points to the side of your car where the gas cap is.
Dang. CR is right about the song. I hadn’t heard either in years, so I took a guess and got it wrong. Nice work CR.
I remember seeing Jeter’s first games in the big leagues. I was fortunate to be in Texas with my wife and had tickets to see the Rangers and Yankees. I remember Ken Hill was on mound for the Rangers. Can’t remember who it was for the Yankees but it may have been Kevin Brown. According to UVA’s facebook page they play on Sunday at 11am.
My wife is a JMU grad, so we enjoyed watching the Dukes get a nice win last night. She then had the nerve to ask me if I thought they could beat Indiana. She laughed at how quickly I said “No.”
HokieAl, it used to be that each manufacturer put the fuel cap on a particular side, throughout their lineup. I don’t know if that is still the case or not.
Back in ‘the old days’, I always liked it when the fuel cap was behind the license plate, as it made for a cleaner look on the sides of the car. I think that was ‘outlawed’/made illegal because of the danger from a rear end collision.
Some argument is made that having the filler on the driver’s side helps security for the driver, some argument is made that having the fuel cap on the opposite increases safety and overall awareness of one’s vehicle.
To me, I just dislike having to flip the interior lever to pop open my fuel cap door. I forget it half the time and have to walk back around the car to open it. Either that, or I pop it open while I’m entering the gas stop, as though I’m piloting the space shuttle and deploying parachutes or something.
I want to ask this intelligent blog crowd about a song, “We are going to rock you,” by Queen. Does this song have a good beat, soundtrack, and makes you want to run through brick walls?
HokieAl, you earned the ‘crown’. You were on top of it this morning. I lucked up & hit a Texas Leaguer just beyond Jeter’s grasp. Most of the time I don’t even read the lyrics, I’m so bad at them.
I did read someone’s thoughts somewhere that this song was the only one about a stalker that was a guaranteed play for ‘slow dance’ at HS proms. Pretty ironic when you think about it.
Today and tomorrow have to be the two biggest “sick days” of the year. It is amazing how the a flu epidemic breaks out the Wednesday night before the tournament starts.
I remember hearing Sting talk about that song once, saying it was the sickest thing he ever performed. Sure is catchy, though. Stayed at No. 1 forever in 1983, it seemed like.
The Heat Streak continues with a 27 point second half comeback? Where was Dr. Heimlich? He obviously wasn’t in the house to keep the Cavs from choking. Talk about another LeBron dagger in the back to the city of Cleveland . . .
It would have been very cool for the Cavs to have ended the streak. Obviously, a huge head start didn’t even help.
By the way, I’ve got that Derek Jeter baseball card. I’m one of those that has never grown up and still get some every year.
I sure like starting my blog day off looking at that “Like Asian Woman” promo rather then the one of Frank selling gutters. Even Aaron`s smile looks a little broader today. Garland sure looked good last night too I guess he wanted minutes behind Delaney and Hudson that just weren`t there. Sometimes you just have to wait your time but I guess as the 3rd leading scorer in Philadelphia high school history he figured he was wasting his time at Tech. To bad. He would have gotten plenty of minutes his last two years.
I remember most of Garland’s Hokie minutes were spent with him looking like a deer in the headlights. It’s not like VT is an elite hoops school, but when we were in ACC play, he was just a little too intimidated. I’m glad he found a good spot at LaSalle and seems to be doing well. A lot of the time, location makes all the difference in the world. There are scores of equivalent examples every season across the country. We’re just more aware of those close to home.
Today & Tomorrow are still my favorite days of the sports calendar, so I’ll share a rare video post
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFtb3EtjEic
Well, RP, I guess it wasn’t technically a Rickroll.
crooked, you make a very excellent point.
People can have the ‘woulda, shoulda, coulda” talk about Tech hoops and the transfers that have happened. I know, my son and I have had it before.
Bottom line is this – 5 spots on the floor, 1 ball, and you generally go no more than 8 deep, and guys like Garland, Boggs, Hank Thorns, Manny Atkins – yeah, they have done well where they have moved on to, and that’s great for them, but not every basketball player is ACC material.
People look at stats, post transfer, and don’t realize they aren’t playing against UNC, Duke, Maryland, UVA, et al, and some of the studs they will have.
There are two defections that Tech fans should wring their hands over – Dorian Finney-Smith and Montrezl Harrell (even though he didn’t ever set foot on campus). Chaney was ACC material, too, but that is just such an usual situation. You can’t fault Tech at all, under the circumstances.
To quote Bill Simmons, last night’s Heat/Cavs game was just the latest chapter in the God Hates Cleveland handbook. A friend of mine who is a huge Cleveland sports fan made the cardinal sin of posting a screengrab showing Cavs 71-Heat 53 early in the fourth quarter onto facebook.
Trevor — “We will rock u” still gets played a lot at stadiums – it’s easy for fans to stomp their feet & clap along to the beat with. The latest song craze has been “Seven Nation Army” by the White Stripes — it started a few years ago and get played almost everywhere now, and student sections seem to sing along to the bass riff on it.
RP is dead on the money. The next four days, actually, are the most wonderful time of the sports year.
When else do you get so much sports excitement packed into 4 days?
The answer – never.
If you are into the NBA scene, it is starting to get relevant, NASCAR is just opening up and getting exciting, depending on the track they are racing at, but still getting your attention, MLB is closing in on opening day, and when you top off the cake with the first four days of the NCAA tournament – geez, you just can’t top it.
This is better than Christmas, because you don’t have to deal with family, and clean up a lot of wrapping paper for gifts that people will take and exchange.
Ok I know I’m late on this but the fule door thing, as far as I know even on older cars you can tell from inside the car what side It’s on. Just look at what side of your gauge cluster the fule gauge is on, so if the fuel gauge is on the right hand side of gauge cluster then the fuel door will be on the passenger side, left side equals drivers side. Now this has been true for every vehicle I can remember being in hope this helps.
#18 Rick H I agree with your comments. I’m assuming that is the reason VT didn’t attempt to recruit Andrew Rowsey up at Rockbridge. Second leading scorer in Virginia High School History. If he hadn’t lost 6 games and not rescheduled in his Freshman year there is no telling is final point total
New Subject- Aaron who reports on VT baseball?
#18 RH, that’s like the way most ignore the obvious on the son of a Hokie legend who played hoops elsewhere. He never would have been put in the same spot in Cassell. He made the best choice for him, as history has shown. He’s in the NBA now, and his opportunity would not have been wide open here as it was down there. Nor should it have been, but that is what folks like to ignore. You just can’t cut & paste from one situation to another, it doesn’t work that way.
I’m happy for Boggs & Garland, but I also know that even in the best of scenarios, they wouldn’t have done the same here. Things work out the way they do for a reason.
Garlands deer in the headlights look was from looking over his shoulder to see if SG was going to jerk his leash for a turnover. A guard that plays at Garlands pace is going to turn it over, you have to accept that when you offer. He’s also going to generate a fast pace offense, SG didn’t want either. Consequently, a short leash. Garlands coming off the bench, just like Tech, but Lasalle is giving him more leeway. We could have used him this year. I think he only missed one shot last night, created turnovers and led a fast paced offense. Good for him. I’m sure SG thought he had the best players in the proper order but Boggs and Garland are showing that they could be good and productive role players. Tech needed those this year. Could have used anybody that could shoot.
Our office pool will be interesting this year. 10 entries…4 picked Louisville, 3 picked Indiana, 2 picked Kansas, 1 picked Gonzaga. The most oddball picks I saw was one person taking Wisconsin and Memphis to make the Final Four.
Bo — depends. Berman will usually write one or two features on their top players during the season. We occasionally cover games — like when they play UVa or sometimes another high-profile opponent. Berman previews any potential draftees in June. I’ve written occasional columns on players. The year they made the NCAA tournament, Berman and I both traveled to South Carolina for the regional.
So it all depends on how they’re playing, who they’re playing, etc. As far as a beat writer in a traditional sense, we don’t have one. The lion’s share of the game write-ups are handled in-house.
TomL you couldn’t be more wrong with your tired slash at the former coach. I sat in Cassell and watched Garland struggle to get the ball over half court in 10 seconds. Time after time after time. Game after game after game. That wasn’t because he was afraid of his coach. Even if it had been – IT WASN’T – what does that say about his mindset that he was so intimidated by his coach he couldn’t play college basketball? You really want to keep pretending that lie? What about the other guys on the team? They weren’t afraid. Wonder why?
You guys constantly lie about how difficult it was to play for SG, when it seems there were always a dozen guys a season that handled it without going fetal position on us. Every upperclassman Greenberg had – except Vassallo – graduated from VT. Somehow, some way, they managed. You guys take one player who is a backup for a mid-level team and has one good game, then you wave a flag like he was persecuted in Bburg, and that we’d have been NCAA tourney worthy with him. The truth is quite different from what you falsely pretend.
Why not just be happy for the guy? He couldn’t cut it at VT, but he made it happen at a smaller school. That’s fine. You really do everyone a disservice to falsely claim otherwise. Look at Larry Drew II, who found his place at UCLA. He couldn’t cut it at UNC, and transferred. Now, he’s comfortable. It happens.
No way La Salle shoots anywhere close to 63% again in this tournament. Just some really bad defense from BSU as well. Valpo is looking MORE like Alpo right now. I have Bucknell over Butler. Should be a tight game the whole way.
Trevor, I would put Bohemian Rhapsody and We are the Champions right there too. Freddie Mercury could have made a Taylor Swift song sound good. Sometimes I go on You Tube and check out Wembley 1987 just to be reminded of that. Speaking of transfers, other then Chaney and Adam Smith-boy he should be money in the bank- the only other one I can remember is Russell Pierre. Maybe that outcome is why we don`t go the transfer route too often.
Just to display how willfully ignorant people can be – TomL, here is another reason why you’re wrong. You talk – totally wrongly, about LaSalle’s ‘fast paced offense’ with Garland as a backup. here are the numbers to show how uninformed your false claim is -
LaSalle, avg PPG – 72.4
VaTech, avg PPG – 70.3
That’s one basket difference in their ‘fast paced offense’ and our ‘slow down’ offense.
Shots per game? LaSalle averages 57.1 while VaTech averaged 58.0, so the Hokies actually shot MORE often than LaSalle’s ‘fast paced’ offense.
Oops! TomL, I could go on showing just how uninformed your false claim was, but I’ll save you the moment.
Oh yeah, Garland only played in 24 of LaSalle’s 31 games thus far. He only averaged 24 minutes a game when he played.
Wouldn’t you have felt better just praising Garland for his shining moment, as opposed to trying to insult Greenberg a year after he’s left the building?
#29 Ralph, epic pull on the Adam Smith comment – nice ‘Wealth Of Nations’ reference, there. Don’t think it went unnoticed.
cr, thanks, my friend. I have seen that you don`t let a whole lot go unnoticed here.
Valpo is out but Boggs had a great game-15 points. Good way to end your career.
RP and Ralph, thanks for the feedback.
CR, you mentioned Larry Drew II. A lot of UNC fans weren’t too broken up with him gone because he was prone to turnovers and I don’t think he was the best PG for Roy’s offense. When Roy finally switched Kendall Marshall for Larry Drew, the offense finally took off, like a F-14 screaming off the carrier. Ironically, Drew’s offense productivity went up coming off the bench. Drew pretty much abandoned UNC when he decided to transfer in the middle of the ACC slate because he felt slighted when Marshall was named the starter. It didn’t help that Drew’s daddy was a NBA head coach who encouraged Drew to leave.
Maybe it’s me, but I have pretty much shrugged off March Madness.
Trev, that’s what I mean about the fools who try to cut & paste careers between different locales. I watched LD2 at UNC, and he was not fitting into the puzzle. He’s not been totally smooth edged at UCLA, but he has found his place as much as he ever will.
Not every 18-20 yr old makes the right choice the first time.
CR, that’s true. I’m trying to think of another UNC player who threatened to leave, but Roy, in his first year at UNC was able to convinced him to stay, I’m almost certain it was Rashad McCants (NBA flameout, no surprise). If anything Drew was more of a shooting guard, not a point guard, and I think that was partly on the coach for not recongizing it. Also, another Drew’s weakness was his court vision.
I’ll just go ahead and address this, because that’s what I do – Jay Leno needs to be fired, effective Saturday. Let him flame hot & hard tomorrow, then slice his throat. Metaphorically speaking, of course. Broadcast reruns for 60 days, then bring in Jimmy Fallon. JF can manage the turnaround. Just do it.
Leno is under contract through next September, so he’ll be totally inconsequential by then, as if he weren’t already. The longer NBC waits, the more it hurts NBC.
CUT HIM! Do it already. We all know it’s going to happen, so go on & do it. Man up & do it. Nobody who buys anything really gives a… flip… about Jay Leno. Cut him loose. Move on. How stupid do you have to be to not understand this? Cut Leno loose. Turn the page.
CR, Greenberg mismanaged his players the whole time he was in Blacksburg. He was an underacheiver just like his teams. He would have a moment every now and then(upset Duke, UNC, etc.) them fail miserably against lesser talented teams. I know you must be married to a member of his family( or closer). He’s gone pontificating on ESPN now which is a good place for him, at least he can say he made the tournament this year.
TL, I see you’re still promulgating the lies, with ZERO foundation. You can lie all you desire about Greenberg. I’ll sit back and laugh while you try to explain the failure that is currently Hokie basketball.
be a man – TL, predict when the Hokies will next make the NCAA or even the NIT. I’ll give you a five year window and remind you of it every spring when they fail. it won’t make me happy, but it will continue to prove how wrong you are. You can hate Greenberg all you wish, but he’s exponentially better than Johnson in every facet.
Greenberg’s teams didn’t back down. They beat FAR more #1 teams than any other Hokie team ever played. They lost games they shouldn’t have, but they never backed down from teams when every Hokie could have expected them to do. Greenberg beat more #1 teams, or even Top Five teams, than ANY Hokie coach in ANY sport – hello, football! – in the history of the school.
Go ahead, diss that, and keep on lying about how ‘terrible’ Greenberg was, when we all know he wasn’t. Keep on lying about the damage done, when the reality is that the opposite is true.
TL, remind me how many times Greenberg was named Coach Of The Year. Remind me again how many times VT finished in the top half of the ACC. Remind me again how many times we beat the #1 team in the country in basketball. Remind me again how many times we beat DUKE & UNC in their own gyms. Remind me again how many times Seth Greenberg got us mentioned on ESPN?
Then step up and tell me how many times his replacement will do that, and I’ll laugh at you now, then make a point of proving how wrong your false claim is, every single season.
Go ahead,do it. I dare you. Do it, go ahead, I can’t wait. Or… you could stop lying about Greenberg. You choose. Lie, and I’ll nail you on it. Man up, and stop lying, and it’s all cool. You know I won’t forget. Either admit it & walk away, or…
No chance I can stay up late enough these days to watch Leno (thanks, kids who get up at 6:30). But if I could, I’d watch Conan. Or some West Coast baseball game on the net. Preferably one that Vin Scully is calling.
To criticize Greenberg is not the same as hating the man. Disagreeing with you does not make me or anyone else a liar. They’ve just elected a new Pope, and guess what Sparky, you ain’t him! Greenberg, IMO, was fired because he lost games when it counted, at the end of the season. Was he a terrible coach? No, he wasn’t. In fact, at least on TV, I liked his style. Better than the one we have now? Maybe; next year will tell a lot. Also, IMO, he was fired because he thought he could intimidate Weaver. He couldn’t. This is a blog about sports, not a forum to weigh the efficacy of going to war with Iran!
Last post was directed to CR.
Desert, no matter what you think, you & I don’t necessarily disagree, we just look at things a little differently.
I never claimed that everyone who disagreed with me was a liar. Just TomL and a fistful of others who nestle up to the VT milk gland. And, to be precise, I used facts to prove they were liars, you don’t do what they do.
FTR, I’m not Catholic, and never pretended to be, though I appreciate your attempted humor. Absolutely NOBODY, EVEN JIM WEAVER, thought Greenberg was fired for W-L records. The absolute opposite is the fact, and you should have admitted it. Weaver said it was NOT about W-L records.
You can use ‘Wait ’til next year…’ as a mantra all you desire, but after the next 2-4 years, you’ll eventually have to admit that Weaver went cheap and made his firing based on emotion. Or will you?
As far as the Iran reference, you lost me there. If we’re talking about promulgating lies, then I get it, but otherwise, you lost me…
I was already tired of of that commercial with the guy talking to the four little kids and now it`s on all four channels.
How many times did he get us in the NCAA’s. CR you impress me as someone who hasn’t competed in team sports but you know it all. You troll and cull websites and use only that info that supports your view and post it. Good luck with that. I’m not judging JJ, let’s wait and see. I’m not impressed with some of his decisions so far but then I didn’t agree with all of SG’s.
CR- IMO it was not the wins versus losses that finally led to Greenberg’s demise. It was when he lost at the end of the season, combined with failed attempt to ‘handle’ Weaver that got him. I thought he was a good coach, but was not going ever to be great. Did Weaver’s firing of Greenberg have an emotional aspect? In my mind absolutely.
I am not a mind reader, so I don’t know why Weaver picked JJ as coach. Maybe it was money, but Tech is not strapped for cash, so I am disinclined to lean that way. My ‘wait till next year’ philosophy is based upon the premise that, other than Green, JJ didn’t have much with which to work. If we see the same lame defense with the new guys, then it’s the coach. And, no, I wouldn’t give JJ 3 or 4 years to develop a team with better hustle. Get better next year in that regard, or JJ has to go.
CR, you seem to take this blog very seriously. Maybe too seriously. I suspect that most of the views shared on this blog have the clarity of one’s view atop a galloping horse. My Iran reference was that while this blog is interesting, entertaining, and informative, it is about college sports; not about the very real and troubling issues of our time. A lot of folks shoot from the hip here, that’s the fun of it. If they are wrong, they’re wrong, but it doesn’t make them liars or stupid.
Mr. Crooked Road is of the belief that his opinion is the only one that counts. He claims to be a Hokie supporter but since I’ve been reading this site, I’ve seen not one positive comment about any Hokie sport. Pure negativity.
What’s ironic about the SG situation is that if SG was still the VT coach, Crooked Road would be badgering him just as hard as he does Beamer, Weaver, etc. But since he’s no longer the coach there Crooked Road sings his praises. SG won 58% of his games at VT. Beamer has won close to 70% of his games but Mr. Crooked Road bangs on Beamer and brags on SG. Go figure??
Mr. Crooked Road desperately wants to prove to everyone how smart and knowledgeable he is. About any and everything. (thus the Webster dictionary at his side) Sometimes when you try too hard to accomplish this, just the opposite occurs. And I will always believe he’s a Hoo in disguise anyway. Just sayin…..
Well, forget what I said the other day about Harvard not being a Cinderella because of their non-plural name.
They may have sunk my free lunch bracket, since I had the Lobos in the Final Four. Drat.
I’ll buy you lunch OJ.
danny, are we cross?
NSFW, cut the volume down…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnwvZcb9EEM
You really need to supplement your vitamins with something more calming than caffeine. I’m as Hokie as it gets. You know that, but in your desperation, you reach for a silly slight. No problem, you’re forgiven. Thanks for adding so much content to the discussion.
I’m looking forward to a great day of basketball, as we all should.
#47 DH, I’m disinclined to want Jim Weaver to ever make another hire, so I’m content to wait until he’s outside the building. His miserliness wasn’t based on money we did or didn’t have, it was based on his overall approach. I don’t want Johnson replaced right now. I don’t want him replaced as long as Weaver is the AD. I don’t think Johnson is the answer, and I certainly don’t blame him for it. He’s doing the best he can. He just needed to formulate his philosophy somewhere besides the ACC as his first HC job. It’s not his fault in that regard. He seems pretty nice. He’d have been better served to have begun at a Big South school or the like. He didn’t just get tossed in the deep end of the pool, he was taken twelve miles off shore and thrown overboard.
As for the very real & troubling issues of our day, and the discussion thereof, I try to stay away from Dan Casey’s blog. People get too cranky over there. Winking back at ya…
haha, Tom…I’ve caught lunch, had a few drinks, bowled a few games, and played a few rounds of golf with quite a few folks from the blogs here at the RT through the years…always an enjoyable experience.