Incentives needed

Five or six months. That seems to be the average wait if you’re a senior citizen in Roanoke, and you want to find a geriatrics-trained physician.

When Joanne Hicks and her husband moved from their Folsom, Calif., home to be near relatives in Roanoke, she called the Carilion Direct referral line in search of an internist who specialized in geriatrics.

There were fewer than 10 — a handful are certified geriatricians while others are family doctors or internists who have geriatric expertise. Only one was accepting new patients at the time, Hicks said, and the wait was five months.

In the meantime, Joanne Hicks had an abscessed tooth and had to wait three days before a dentist could work her in.

“I thought I was going to die,” she said, adding that she relied on some leftover painkillers from a hip replacement to get her through the wait.

Gary Cooper moved to Vinton from his home in Columbus, Ohio, to help take care of his mother, Phyllis, who was exhibiting signs of dementia but had never been screened for Alzheimer’s.

“It took me six months to get her any kind of help,” he said.

Cooper bulldogged his way through the situation, calling every resource and referral available and setting up a system with his brother wherein one of them is with their mother 24 hours a day.

“Her old doctor knew she had Alzheimer’s but he’d never diagnosed her or given her any medication other than tranquilizers,” he said.

Psychiatrist Dave Trinkle, who directs the Center for Healthy Aging, took Phyllis Cooper on as a patient. He makes house calls to see her — but that’s something he only has time to do once a month and usually accompanied by fellows in Carilion’s geriatrics fellowship program.

psychiatrist Dr. Dave Trinkle (center) makes a house call to check on Gary Cooper’s mother, Phyllis.psychiatrist Dr. Dave Trinkle (center) makes a house call to check on Gary Cooper’s mother, Phyllis.

That’s one approach Carilion has taken to beef up the number of geriatrics-trained doctors in the region: Train them in Roanoke, and hopefully they’ll stay here after they graduate. So far, six have, Trinkle said.

A new section chief for geriatric medicine will begin work in July.

And a new electronic medical records system will make it easier for Carilion-affiliated doctors to communicate with one another — so that if in the future Phyllis Cooper has a physical problem that might affect the psychiatric medications she’s already taking, Trinkle and her primary care doctor will be in e-mail contact.

Too often, late-life depression is mistaken for dementia and vice versa, Trinkle said.

“It takes time to distinguish between the two,” he said. “That’s what geriatrics is all about.

“We know there needs to be a lot more coordination of care to prevent common mistakes like too many medicines, or too great a dosage, or missing the interplay between a urinary tract infection and confusion.”

Trinkle’s beeper went off continually during a recent hourlong interview. Several patients were calling because their primary-care doctor had just retired, and most of the doctors they were trying to see either weren’t accepting new Medicare patients or weren’t taking geriatric patients.

Trinkle doesn’t see the shortage easing until doctors-in-training see a financial incentive to go into geriatrics.

In 2005, South Carolina became the first state in the nation to offer student-loan forgiveness to doctors who complete fellowships in geriatrics. (A typical doctor leaves medical school $150,000 in debt.)

In March, Sen. Barbara Boxer, D-Calif., introduced a bill called the Caring for an Aging America Act. It would provide $130 million in federal funding over five years to attract and retain geriatric health professionals — from doctors to social workers — via loan forgiveness and career-advancement incentives.

Camardi, in fact, initially refused his first job out of residency because it required visiting nursing homes three days a week.

“At the time, I thought that was beneath my dignity,” he said. “It turned out to be the best thing that ever happened to me.”

To sweeten the deal, his boss offered to pay off his medical-school loans — $78,000 worth — an offer Camardi could not refuse.

“It’s not rocket science,” he said. “To increase the number of geriatricians, you increase the financial incentives.”

Dr. Camardi on Aging

I love the statement that Dr. Camardi made at the end of this article. He said, As much care and consideration should go into treating a 93-year-old nursing home patient with dementia as a healthy 25-year-old who shows up in the E.R. I took care of my 92 yr. old mother and had people say you need to be ready to give her up. Of course, I didn't want to give her up but the problem was I expected her to have the best medical care possible as if she was a young person as long as she was living. One doctor told me when she was 86 that she was dying and I said I know someday but right now let's find out what is going on that is causing her to lose weight and not get her strength back. I also got some other doctors involved in her case and it turned out to be her medication was upsetting her stomach so they started her on Zantac and she immediately started eating and gaining her strength and went on to live a very good life until 92 yrs. old. It makes me shriver when I hear doctor after doctor say "oh, you are just getting old and that's part of it" instead of finding out what is really going on. I just lost my husband and feel that more could have been done to made his life better if only the doctors would have taken the time to run a few tests or xrays to see what had happened to his back in the very beginning. I'm not saying we don't have very good medical care in the United States but that more could be done for the elderly. I have a soft spot in my heart when it comes to these people. I also would like to do what I can to help some of these people in same way.

Thank you for your

Thank you for your response--and I just have to tell you that it comes down to the individual.What I mean by that is when I talk with a family or a patient about matters such as these,I present my moral basis and then I turn the tables and ask them about their value-based descion process.YES--it does come down to a very fundamnetal clearing of the ethical and moral mine-field we all walk upon when dealing with our mutual sense of what is right and what is wrong.In the almost 30 years in which I have done this work,I am always surprised when I see the reaction of people when I bring them to this rather seismic moment.Only then can we have a fair and honest discussion. That is why I motivate my students to think about these issues now--as we all should.By exploring those diffilcult emotions when we are not confronted by eternity,it helps us make better judgements later on.

Exactly

Great perspective...but woe to those who are trying to negotiate this recession and the general attitude of doctors toward what might ail older people. As you observe, "it's just age" is all too common an alternative to treating the problem.

Thanks for your

Thanks for your response--and yes,sometimes it is just the process of time--but how does the patient feel about that?Do we force it upon them and walk away or do we give a plan of some form of action to help them help themsleves--exercise,diet and proper sleep habits. I can't tell you how these simple things do help to some degree if we work on them and if nothing else, when dealing with them,it opens doors to other issues such as poly-pharmacy.