Take-home message

Outside Josephine Johns’ room at Springtree, Camardi prepares his student for an ethical dilemma: Johns has dementia, he tells them. And she has breast cancer.

“Now, what do you do? How do you do it? And what else do you want to know?”

The young doctors race to offer questions: Is her family in the picture? Is she screaming out and aggressive, or is she passive? What’s her quality of life? Is she mentally aware enough to give consent for the procedure?

Camardi nods, but he doesn’t answer.

Dr. Michael Camardi (far right) watches as Cristian Falcon (from left), Supreet Manesh, Kashan Khan and Dunnett Durando take turns listening to the lungs of Springtree Healthcare Center nursing home resident Katherine Bennett, 86.
Dr. Michael Camardi (far right) watches as Cristian Falcon (from left), Supreet Manesh, Kashan Khan and Dunnett Durando take turns listening to the lungs of Springtree Healthcare Center nursing home resident Katherine Bennett, 86.

Instead, he tells them: “Now, I want you to go home and stare at the ceiling and think about these questions, and try to let the rightness or the wrongness of the situation come to you. These are all questions that will arise again and again in your career.”

Camardi opens Johns’ door and voila: He has pulled another bouquet from his sleeve. The students have been tricked.

The patient’s dementia is, in fact, so mild that she has no trouble flirting with Camardi — or recalling his name.

She had breast cancer, but it was actually two years ago, and a lumpectomy was performed.

She’s their last patient of the day, and Camardi leaves them with one final take-home message before he drives — Camardi speed, of course — to see more patients at the hospital:

As much care and consideration should go into treating a 93-year-old nursing home patient with dementia as a healthy 25-year-old who shows up in the E.R.

“If I shocked you with Josephine,” he tells them, “never forget it.”

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I love the statement that Dr. Camardi made at the end of this article. He said, As much care and consideration should go into treating a 93-year-old nursing home patient with dementia as a healthy 25-year-old who shows up in the E.R. I took care of my 92 yr. old mother and had people say you need to be ready to give her up. Of course, I didn't want to give her up but the problem was I expected her to have the best medical care possible as if she was a young person as long as she was living. One doctor told me when she was 86 that she was dying and I said I know someday but right now let's find out what is going on that is causing her to lose weight and not get her strength back. I also got some other doctors involved in her case and it turned out to be her medication was upsetting her stomach so they started her on Zantac and she immediately started eating and gaining her strength and went on to live a very good life until 92 yrs. old. It makes me shriver when I hear doctor after doctor say "oh, you are just getting old and that's part of it" instead of finding out what is really going on. I just lost my husband and feel that more could have been done to made his life better if only the doctors would have taken the time to run a few tests or xrays to see what had happened to his back in the very beginning. I'm not saying we don't have very good medical care in the United States but that more could be done for the elderly. I have a soft spot in my heart when it comes to these people. I also would like to do what I can to help some of these people in same way.

Thank you for your

Thank you for your response--and I just have to tell you that it comes down to the individual.What I mean by that is when I talk with a family or a patient about matters such as these,I present my moral basis and then I turn the tables and ask them about their value-based descion process.YES--it does come down to a very fundamnetal clearing of the ethical and moral mine-field we all walk upon when dealing with our mutual sense of what is right and what is wrong.In the almost 30 years in which I have done this work,I am always surprised when I see the reaction of people when I bring them to this rather seismic moment.Only then can we have a fair and honest discussion. That is why I motivate my students to think about these issues now--as we all should.By exploring those diffilcult emotions when we are not confronted by eternity,it helps us make better judgements later on.

Exactly

Great perspective...but woe to those who are trying to negotiate this recession and the general attitude of doctors toward what might ail older people. As you observe, "it's just age" is all too common an alternative to treating the problem.

Thanks for your

Thanks for your response--and yes,sometimes it is just the process of time--but how does the patient feel about that?Do we force it upon them and walk away or do we give a plan of some form of action to help them help themsleves--exercise,diet and proper sleep habits. I can't tell you how these simple things do help to some degree if we work on them and if nothing else, when dealing with them,it opens doors to other issues such as poly-pharmacy.