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	<title>Comments on: Sunday links: Is this Florida State-Big 12 business for real?</title>
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		<title>By: Andy Bitter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Bitter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 16:34:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The SEC doesn&#039;t want them. It already has the state of Florida because of the Gators. And there&#039;s no way Florida, Auburn and Georgia want FSU tapped into that cash cow. They&#039;d much prefer them in a different, less-profitable league and would vote to block the &#039;Noles from ever joining the SEC, I&#039;d imagine.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The SEC doesn&#8217;t want them. It already has the state of Florida because of the Gators. And there&#8217;s no way Florida, Auburn and Georgia want FSU tapped into that cash cow. They&#8217;d much prefer them in a different, less-profitable league and would vote to block the &#8216;Noles from ever joining the SEC, I&#8217;d imagine.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff H</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 16:32:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Listen, FSU is a good program but a shell of the program from mid 90&#039;s. They can&#039;t win the lowly ACC in Football now and want to look at tougher Big 12? Some of you said how good their recruiting has been recently but Notre Dame has also recruited well and look at them. SEC geographically a better fit but they know they would be 4th or 5th best team in that league so maybe Big 12 not so bad, ha.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Listen, FSU is a good program but a shell of the program from mid 90&#8242;s. They can&#8217;t win the lowly ACC in Football now and want to look at tougher Big 12? Some of you said how good their recruiting has been recently but Notre Dame has also recruited well and look at them. SEC geographically a better fit but they know they would be 4th or 5th best team in that league so maybe Big 12 not so bad, ha.</p>
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		<title>By: scott whitaker</title>
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		<dc:creator>scott whitaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 14:02:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I actually agree with Steve. FSU&#039;s record from the late 80&#039;s to 2000 was staggering. Two National Championships, 9 consecutive ACC Championships (or ties), an incredible 152-19-1 record from &#039;87 through &#039;00 and 15 years in a row of never ending the season ranked below #5! By winning percentage alone they are rnked the 3rd best team in CFB in the past 25 years. Clearly after the last NC ( we remember that all too well), they started a decline which in retrospect had more to do with Bobby Bowden&#039;s age than anything else, though they did win the ACC in &#039;05 (again, a loss we remember too well). In his 2 years as head coach, Jimbo Fisher has a 19-8 record which includes 2 bowl wins and 2 Fla. Cup Championships (beating both UM and Florida in consecutive years). To say FSU adds nothing to the ACC right now to me is like saying the Yankees bring nothing to MLB becasue they haven&#039;t won the World Series in 10 years.  

FSU is a sleeping giant which regularly out recruits VT and most of the ACC teams year in and year out. Last year the ACC was a horrible 2-6 in bowls, and FSU had 1 of the W&#039;s. The year before the ACC was 4-5 in bowls, again FSU had one of them. The ACC is a &quot;soft&quot; football conference for sure, losing one of the most consistent, successful, tradition rich teams would deal a major blow to the conference and only lessen it&#039;s attractiveness to TV and recruits. When conferences are negotiating TV contracts, tradition and viewership are huge. The same with recruiting. Telling a recruit he&#039;ll get to play against the likes of a FSU is big. FSU is  major asset to the conference.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually agree with Steve. FSU&#8217;s record from the late 80&#8242;s to 2000 was staggering. Two National Championships, 9 consecutive ACC Championships (or ties), an incredible 152-19-1 record from &#8217;87 through &#8217;00 and 15 years in a row of never ending the season ranked below #5! By winning percentage alone they are rnked the 3rd best team in CFB in the past 25 years. Clearly after the last NC ( we remember that all too well), they started a decline which in retrospect had more to do with Bobby Bowden&#8217;s age than anything else, though they did win the ACC in &#8217;05 (again, a loss we remember too well). In his 2 years as head coach, Jimbo Fisher has a 19-8 record which includes 2 bowl wins and 2 Fla. Cup Championships (beating both UM and Florida in consecutive years). To say FSU adds nothing to the ACC right now to me is like saying the Yankees bring nothing to MLB becasue they haven&#8217;t won the World Series in 10 years.  </p>
<p>FSU is a sleeping giant which regularly out recruits VT and most of the ACC teams year in and year out. Last year the ACC was a horrible 2-6 in bowls, and FSU had 1 of the W&#8217;s. The year before the ACC was 4-5 in bowls, again FSU had one of them. The ACC is a &#8220;soft&#8221; football conference for sure, losing one of the most consistent, successful, tradition rich teams would deal a major blow to the conference and only lessen it&#8217;s attractiveness to TV and recruits. When conferences are negotiating TV contracts, tradition and viewership are huge. The same with recruiting. Telling a recruit he&#8217;ll get to play against the likes of a FSU is big. FSU is  major asset to the conference.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 11:19:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Zman has a great comment about ND.
Steve is correct about the AD from VT.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zman has a great comment about ND.<br />
Steve is correct about the AD from VT.</p>
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		<title>By: 757 Resident</title>
		<link>http://blogs.roanoke.com/andybittervirginiatechfootball/2012/05/13/sunday-links-is-this-florida-state-big-12-business-for-real/#comment-4529</link>
		<dc:creator>757 Resident</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 05:00:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Check out there last two recruiting classes, especially along the defensive line.  It&#039;s wicked.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check out there last two recruiting classes, especially along the defensive line.  It&#8217;s wicked.</p>
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		<title>By: David In Salem</title>
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		<dc:creator>David In Salem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 03:05:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Steve,

What you posted has no basis in reality. FSU adds nothing....nothing.....to the ACC right now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve,</p>
<p>What you posted has no basis in reality. FSU adds nothing&#8230;.nothing&#8230;..to the ACC right now.</p>
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		<title>By: Bobby Clark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bobby Clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 02:28:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Don&#039;t be surprised if FSU, Clemson, Miami, and GT (or Maryland...West Virginia needs a rival) tell the ACC &quot;see ya&quot; in late June.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t be surprised if FSU, Clemson, Miami, and GT (or Maryland&#8230;West Virginia needs a rival) tell the ACC &#8220;see ya&#8221; in late June.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2012 21:31:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In college football nothing is real until it happens.  That said I think VT needs an AD who is proactive and thinks ahead rather than chasing the train after it&#039;s left the station.

If FSU were to leave, ACC football would be about as significant as the Mountain West.  Winning or losing FSU is the horse that pulls the ACC wagon.  The national media measures ACC football by what FSU does or doesn&#039;t do; VT or Clemson or anyone else could be the number 1 team in the country but if FSU is having a down year the media will say the conference is down.  VT would also have to leave or become a basketball school while swapping Beamer&#039;s and Johnson&#039;s salaries.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In college football nothing is real until it happens.  That said I think VT needs an AD who is proactive and thinks ahead rather than chasing the train after it&#8217;s left the station.</p>
<p>If FSU were to leave, ACC football would be about as significant as the Mountain West.  Winning or losing FSU is the horse that pulls the ACC wagon.  The national media measures ACC football by what FSU does or doesn&#8217;t do; VT or Clemson or anyone else could be the number 1 team in the country but if FSU is having a down year the media will say the conference is down.  VT would also have to leave or become a basketball school while swapping Beamer&#8217;s and Johnson&#8217;s salaries.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2012 21:23:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[757 Resident, we&#039;ve been hearing that for years now.  I&#039;ll believe it if/when I see it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>757 Resident, we&#8217;ve been hearing that for years now.  I&#8217;ll believe it if/when I see it.</p>
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		<title>By: mrjolly</title>
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		<dc:creator>mrjolly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2012 21:15:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[757 resident, we hear that from FSU fans every year.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>757 resident, we hear that from FSU fans every year.</p>
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