Five thoughts after Virginia Tech’s win vs. Bowling Green
If you missed yesterday’s post-game blog post wrapping up the Hokies’ 37-0 win against Bowling Green, you can read it here.
Here are five thoughts coming out of the game:
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1. It was a nice win for Virginia Tech, a needed one, but ultimately doesn’t tell you too much about the Hokies.
Sure, the shutout was nice for the Hokies. So was the fact that the running game got going for the first time this season. But what can you take from a win against Bowling Green? This was a team that hung with Florida, but it didn’t look anything like that group Saturday. Part of that might have been that the Hokies were playing well. Part of it might have been that the Falcons, outside of defensive tackle Chris Jones and punter Brian Schmiedebusch, aren’t all too good. I don’t think it gives Tech fans any clarity as to whether this team can compete with the Clemsons and Florida States of the conference, or even the North Carolinas and Cincinnatis coming up on the schedule. But it wasn’t another letdown. And on a day when Mid-American Conference teams sprung some upsets (Central Michigan over Iowa, Western Michigan over Connecticut, Northern Illinois over Kansas), the Hokies can at least take heart that they weren’t anywhere close to joining that list.
2. That said, the ground game actually moving the ball is encouraging for Tech.
Virginia Tech finally proved it can run the ball against a team it should be able to run the ball against. Bowling Green was only allowing 118.7 yards per game on the ground this year (although that might be because teams had so much success throwing against it). Still, the Hokies ran 43 times for 246 yards. After rushing for only 342 yards in their first three games, including 119-and 56-yard efforts against Georgia Tech and Pittsburgh (subtracting out the loss on botched punt snap), that’s a welcome change.
The question remains if Tech’s by-committee approach will continue, and if so, will it continue to work. Tony Gregory looked fast getting to the edges against Bowling Green. Will he look so fast against Cincinnati? My guess is he won’t, although that doesn’t mean he can’t be successful. The Hokies used Michael Holmes and J.C. Coleman in a lot of read option plays in which Logan Thomas kept the ball. That misdirection was billed as a big part of the Hokies’ offense this offseason, and Saturday was the most anyone has seen them stick with it. Virginia Tech is 185-34-2 under Frank Beamer when it out-rushes opponents, so getting back to a run-first mentality is probably a good thing for this offense.
3. I wonder how quickly Logan Thomas’ thumbnail will heal and if it affects his throwing at all?
I won’t go through the gruesome details of the fingernail injury Thomas suffered on his quarterback sneak for a touchdown yesterday (read the post-game wrap blog post for that), but he wasn’t nearly the same passer as he was after the injury as before. Before the injury, he was 9-for-17 for 127 yards and two scores, about in line with how he’s been throwing this year. After the injury, he was just 2-for-9 for 17 yards and an interception (granted, he came out late in the blowout for Mark Leal). Since in the injury was on the thumb of his throwing hand, you’d figure it would affect how he grips the ball. I’m not sure the healing time involved in having a fingernail ripped back like that, but you wonder if it could linger into next week’s game against Cincinnati. We shall see.
4. That was another good performance by the defense, but again, it was a mismatch.
The defense got its 26th shutout with Bud Foster as coordinator, notching one for the third straight year. But like I mentioned before, it doesn’t tell you a whole heck of a lot about how this team will do going forward. Bowling Green did a lot of short, quick passes. Duke might be the only team on the schedule that plays a similar style. The Hokies handled it well, limiting the Falcons to 133 yards passing and 133 yards rushing, the last stat bumped up by a 47-yard run late on a bust by the reserves. But the challenge amps up for Foster’s crew in the next few weeks. Butch Jones‘ offense at Cincinnati was maddening for Pittsburgh to stop, with the Bearcats spreading the field and attacking the edge with their athletes in space (including quarterback Munchie Legaux). After that, Tech has a date with Larry Fedora and North Carolina, which likes to spread the field as well. This will be a new challenge for the Hokies this season, one they didn’t handle so great last year (refer to the Clemson games for proof). It will be interesting to see if this defense has made strides to be successful against those spread teams.
5. So much for Georgia Tech being the Hokies’ primary threat in the Coastal Division.
The Yellow Jackets lost to Miami 42-36 in overtime, starting slow (they were down 19-0) and collapsing late (the ‘Canes scored the final 23 points) to fall to 1-2 in the ACC. That’s huge for a team expected to be Virginia Tech’s primary competition for the division title. Georgia Tech is now two games down in the loss column and on the short end of the head-to-head tiebreaker with the Hokies. Now, the question is if Miami is legit? I have my doubts. The “Canes are 2-0 in the ACC, with wins against Boston College and Georgia Tech. They’re young but talented. And those types of teams generally seem to flash that brilliance one week and flame out the next. My biggest concern about Miami, surprisingly, is the defense. The Hurricanes have been better-than-advertised on offense, but they’ve surrendered 32 points (Boston College), 52 (Kansas State) and 36 (Georgia Tech) against three FBS foes this season. They’re 98th nationally in total defense, allowing 452 yards a game. Only Wake Forest has been worse in the ACC.
Miami catches a break by not playing Clemson this year. Its remaining conference schedule is: vs. N.C. State, vs. North Carolina, vs. Florida State, vs. Virginia Tech, at Virginia and at Duke. That’s pretty favorable, with the two easiest games on the slate being on the road. My hunch is that the Hurricanes aren’t quite ready to compete for a division title, but let’s be honest: 5-3 might win the Coastal this year. The division just isn’t that good. However things play out, suddenly Virginia Tech’s Thursday night game at Miami on Nov. 1 takes on a much bigger significance.



The Ga Tech loss shows that we are the best and take note. BCS bound again!
We need a defensive leader! They still don’t look hungry out there. There is no passion. It’s like they are not in the game. I am concerned about that. LEAD THE D GAYLE! Your a beast and intense, lets fire up the troops and knock some teams in the mouth!
The GT loss to VT just shows that VT can get lucky every now and then. Nothing more…
Andy – I don’t disagree with you often but I do today.
1. It isn’t hard to run over earthworms with a truck. BG wasn’t too bad up front on D but they had no outside speed at all. Total mismatch and I don;t think one can conclude that our running game is on-track. All we had to do was outrun them.
2. There is no chemistry between Davis and Thomas. This is very upsetting. As fast as Davis is one would think that he is a primary weapon. He just isn;t because the two of them can;t get it together.
3. Our defense cannot tackle anyone. Our rush went past their QB too often and their off-tackle plays gained too many 5+ yard gains.
4. The slow start in the first qtr was mind numbing. OK, BG was excited and got carried on adrenaline if you insist but still… Where was out adrenaline?
Watching Clemson – FSU they are clearly the gold standard in the ACC right now. FSU looks like they can take on ‘Bama. I think FSU is faster outside than we are fur sure. The amazing thing to me was the ease with which both offenses (and special teams) took each other apart. I just don;t see us having that kind of firepower this year. I think we have the talent but we just aren’t together.
I don’t see us giving either of those teams a decent game at our current level of play.
Since we have to play at Miami I am now more concerned about that game than I was. I am not convinced that Miami is really that strong.
Kyle Fuller is really our only shut down guy. Exum is good but vulnerable.
Gayle drew double teams every play with a third guy waiting. He was not the problem. The attention given him should leave plenty of opportunity for the others and they just didn’t perform.
BG should have had less than 100 total yards as bad as they are.
Right now I expect CIN to beat us. They were much faster than PIT, a team I consider to be big and SLOW. We couldn’t handle PIT.
I am fit to be tied. I really thought we were better than this going in.
But at least we aren’t Arkansas.
And I thought Auburn exposed LSU yesterday. I say ‘Bama and FSU for the title in January. I think FSU wins in a really close game.
Zman, what exactly are you disagreeing with me about? I didn’t draw any definitive conclusions from the Bowling Green game specifically because of the caliber of opponent.
I agree with Zman, FSU vs Alabama for the title, but Alabama will win. Also, based on the games yesterday, the Hokies are toast when playing FSU, Clemson, and Miami.
Regarding ‘Bama v. FSU…did you see Oregon last night? They were starting to look like they have a defense to go with their O. (But ASU did help their defense look good too).
Something does need to change between now and November or the Clemson game will be uglier than last year and FSU will be even worse than that.
Sorry I wasn’t clear Andy. I think you can draw conclusions after the Bg game. I think we are revealed. Very little offensive firepower, overall lack of intensity and not anywhere near as good as expected defense.
I wish it was different but after 4 games I don;t think it is. I don;t understand where our sense of urgency/purpose is this season. I watched Clemson give it everything they have last night.
While one might say that about the GT game, I wouldn’t. We played parts of that game like we were asleep. We didn’t show up against PIT (I still think the team was kidnapped). BG was a stomping if we had the goods. We did ok for 3 qtrs but had all wasted possessions in the 1st qtr.
We are revealed as a talented but under achieving team.
Lay the blame wherever or however you want. We have a ton of work to do to win the Coastal. A huge mountain to climb in order to win the ACC.
We just aren;t very good right now.
But like I said, at least we aren;t Arkansas.
I really hope Logan stays another year. Considering how poorly he is in command of his WRs I would have to guess his draft stock is now 5th round.
After watching the Clemson-Fla State game I feel VT will be blown away in both of those games. Our current game is light years away from playing @ their current level. FSU is in a league by themself.While improved lets remember who we played yesterday. Most questions with running game,defense secondary & LT remain with all of those key areas needing much more improvement. There still appears to be a lack of emotion that has been there in past. All makes for a very long season for the Hokies.
Ye of little faith. I think the Hokies will stay in the game at Climpson and beat FSU in Blacksburg. The ESPN talking heads have declared that FSU will win out. Lets wait and see.