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		<title>By: Jerry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2012 03:31:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[540hokie- Bitter just started covering this team so he can&#039;t possibly know the history and how the anti-Stiney crowd was formed. I&#039;ve been watching VT football for 20 years so I think I know what I&#039;m talking about. Oh and this may surprise you but Frank Beamer is not all knowing and can make mistakes. Also it is possible for fans to have knowledgeable, informed and accurate opinions. Is football rocket science? Football is not so complex that only professionals can understand what&#039;s going on. Look at the stats provided if you need some help seeing the light. Or maybe they have to come from Frank Beamer before you take them seriously? If you have so much confidence in Stiney then tell the rest of us why we should as well. Show me another OC hire that had as piss poor credentials as Stiney had. Show me another OC whose track record is as poor as Stiney&#039;s but who still has the support of the fanbase.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>540hokie- Bitter just started covering this team so he can&#8217;t possibly know the history and how the anti-Stiney crowd was formed. I&#8217;ve been watching VT football for 20 years so I think I know what I&#8217;m talking about. Oh and this may surprise you but Frank Beamer is not all knowing and can make mistakes. Also it is possible for fans to have knowledgeable, informed and accurate opinions. Is football rocket science? Football is not so complex that only professionals can understand what&#8217;s going on. Look at the stats provided if you need some help seeing the light. Or maybe they have to come from Frank Beamer before you take them seriously? If you have so much confidence in Stiney then tell the rest of us why we should as well. Show me another OC hire that had as piss poor credentials as Stiney had. Show me another OC whose track record is as poor as Stiney&#8217;s but who still has the support of the fanbase.</p>
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		<title>By: dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2012 23:38:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I AGREE WITH MIKE OCT 30 AND I APPROVE HIS MESSAGE.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I AGREE WITH MIKE OCT 30 AND I APPROVE HIS MESSAGE.</p>
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		<title>By: hokiegrad</title>
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		<dc:creator>hokiegrad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2012 20:06:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[regarding Fr and r-Fr who could have an immediate impact next year... also keep an eye on Deon Clarke, Augie Conte, Holland Fisher, and Dakota Jackson.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>regarding Fr and r-Fr who could have an immediate impact next year&#8230; also keep an eye on Deon Clarke, Augie Conte, Holland Fisher, and Dakota Jackson.</p>
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		<title>By: crooked road</title>
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		<dc:creator>crooked road</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2012 17:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nice use of statistics, ScottW. They show one of the reasons people complain about Stinespring on here. In Bud, you&#039;ve got a guy who has proven his excellence. A guy who accepts responsibility on a personal level. In Stinespring, you&#039;ve got a guy who has never proven competence. A guy who shirks responsibility for his staff&#039;s weaknesses. A guy who refuses to even acknowledge those weaknesses.

That&#039;s what makes the loyal fan base so frustrated. At least the rational ones. The blindered apologists are mirror images of Stinespring, refusing to acknowledge there is even a problem. They&#039;re easy to dismiss, though. 

Sure, Andy might be frustrated with the level of complaints. Then again, we&#039;ve - Hokie Nation - been here through eleven years of similar incompetence, all while being force fed the same mantra from Frank Beamer game after game, year after year - &#039;We were only a couple of plays away...&#039;

It&#039;s enough to wear down even the most patient...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice use of statistics, ScottW. They show one of the reasons people complain about Stinespring on here. In Bud, you&#8217;ve got a guy who has proven his excellence. A guy who accepts responsibility on a personal level. In Stinespring, you&#8217;ve got a guy who has never proven competence. A guy who shirks responsibility for his staff&#8217;s weaknesses. A guy who refuses to even acknowledge those weaknesses.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s what makes the loyal fan base so frustrated. At least the rational ones. The blindered apologists are mirror images of Stinespring, refusing to acknowledge there is even a problem. They&#8217;re easy to dismiss, though. </p>
<p>Sure, Andy might be frustrated with the level of complaints. Then again, we&#8217;ve &#8211; Hokie Nation &#8211; been here through eleven years of similar incompetence, all while being force fed the same mantra from Frank Beamer game after game, year after year &#8211; &#8216;We were only a couple of plays away&#8230;&#8217;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s enough to wear down even the most patient&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: hokiegrad</title>
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		<dc:creator>hokiegrad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2012 16:58:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I believe Dadi Nicolas was his Haitian birth name, Mike/Andy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe Dadi Nicolas was his Haitian birth name, Mike/Andy.</p>
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		<title>By: 540Hokie</title>
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		<dc:creator>540Hokie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2012 16:26:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So, your basic problem is Beamer and Stiney won&#039;t say what you want them to say?  Since I doubt seriously that they read this blog, maybe you should use snail mail directly to them to get your point across.  You&#039;ve said it so much on Roanoke.com that it&#039;s getting a little old.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, your basic problem is Beamer and Stiney won&#8217;t say what you want them to say?  Since I doubt seriously that they read this blog, maybe you should use snail mail directly to them to get your point across.  You&#8217;ve said it so much on Roanoke.com that it&#8217;s getting a little old.</p>
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		<title>By: scott whitaker</title>
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		<dc:creator>scott whitaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2012 16:04:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Andy, about a week ago I posted some stats comparing the O since Stinespring took over as OC in &#039;02 and the D under Foster since &#039;99 (he was already DC then). Without repeating every word, the comparisons were glaring, going beyond IMHO Beamer&#039;s different expectations of the units. Currently the D is ranked 4th in the conf., not great by Foster&#039;s standards, I agree, yet the O is ranked 9th. Foster&#039;s D has been ranked #1 nationally twice and in the top ten eight times! That is eight times in the top 10 out of 12 years. Stinespring&#039;s O? It has never been ranked higher than 35th and averages being ranked 65th. They are currently 66. What these stats tell me and anyone who looks at them objectively is that somehow Foster, even in the &quot;down&quot; years somehow manages to produce a unit that at worst is competent. Last year was Stinespring&#039;s best O and the team was loaded with the two best receivers in VT&#039;s history, a record setting round one draft pick RB, a dynamic QB and an experienced OL. The O finished 35th nationally and 3rd in the ACC. Last year&#039;s D was relatively young and expectations were not too high and their starting mike played only half the season yet they finished 2nd in the ACC and 10th nationally! This is where many folks here come from i.e. years of mediocrity at best from the O and excellence from the D. 

I disagree with those who say Beamer has never tried anything new. Today&#039;s O is way different than it was in Stiney&#039;s early years, in fact not even close. My complaint is that no matter what Stinespring tries, he cannot get his O to perform at a consistently good level. And I mean good. Sure they have stretches of very good games which unfortunately are usually preceded and followed by major meltdowns. This year&#039;s D certainly has not been up to expectations, yet this years O has been and that again, emphasis on again, is the problem. 

I think you are doing a very good job, ignore the uncouth few.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy, about a week ago I posted some stats comparing the O since Stinespring took over as OC in &#8217;02 and the D under Foster since &#8217;99 (he was already DC then). Without repeating every word, the comparisons were glaring, going beyond IMHO Beamer&#8217;s different expectations of the units. Currently the D is ranked 4th in the conf., not great by Foster&#8217;s standards, I agree, yet the O is ranked 9th. Foster&#8217;s D has been ranked #1 nationally twice and in the top ten eight times! That is eight times in the top 10 out of 12 years. Stinespring&#8217;s O? It has never been ranked higher than 35th and averages being ranked 65th. They are currently 66. What these stats tell me and anyone who looks at them objectively is that somehow Foster, even in the &#8220;down&#8221; years somehow manages to produce a unit that at worst is competent. Last year was Stinespring&#8217;s best O and the team was loaded with the two best receivers in VT&#8217;s history, a record setting round one draft pick RB, a dynamic QB and an experienced OL. The O finished 35th nationally and 3rd in the ACC. Last year&#8217;s D was relatively young and expectations were not too high and their starting mike played only half the season yet they finished 2nd in the ACC and 10th nationally! This is where many folks here come from i.e. years of mediocrity at best from the O and excellence from the D. </p>
<p>I disagree with those who say Beamer has never tried anything new. Today&#8217;s O is way different than it was in Stiney&#8217;s early years, in fact not even close. My complaint is that no matter what Stinespring tries, he cannot get his O to perform at a consistently good level. And I mean good. Sure they have stretches of very good games which unfortunately are usually preceded and followed by major meltdowns. This year&#8217;s D certainly has not been up to expectations, yet this years O has been and that again, emphasis on again, is the problem. </p>
<p>I think you are doing a very good job, ignore the uncouth few.</p>
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		<title>By: crooked road</title>
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		<dc:creator>crooked road</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2012 15:27:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The difference in the public statements made by Bud Foster &amp; Stinespring are part of the reason for the lack of patience with Stinespring, and by extension, Frank Beamer. Bud admits to mistakes on his part well before he blames player execution. Bud admits that sometimes his defensive alignments were not what he should have done. Stinespring never accepts blame. Stinespring never admits his playcalling - through Mike O&#039;Cain - is less than optimal. Stinespring always assigns breakdown to player performance, and not strategy.

I could go on, but perhaps you get the idea. One last shot - Bud Foster&#039;s produced #1 defenses, Top ten defenses, on multiple occasions since Stinespring has been OC the last eleven years. Has Stinespring ever produced an offense ranked Top Thirty?

I&#039;m not even getting into the BS mantra that Stinespring and both Beamers consistently roll out - &#039;We were only X number of blocks away from winning...&#039;

To capsulize - if Stinespring ever, EVER manned up and accepted blame like Bud Foster, or if he had EVER proven he can produce an effective offense in his entire career, then perhaps people would cut him more slack. It&#039;s his refusal, and Frank Beamer&#039;s refusal to admit that there even exists a problem, THAT is the problem.

And that will be a source of complaints for as long as Stinespring is around and he &amp; Beamer don&#039;t change their responses.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The difference in the public statements made by Bud Foster &amp; Stinespring are part of the reason for the lack of patience with Stinespring, and by extension, Frank Beamer. Bud admits to mistakes on his part well before he blames player execution. Bud admits that sometimes his defensive alignments were not what he should have done. Stinespring never accepts blame. Stinespring never admits his playcalling &#8211; through Mike O&#8217;Cain &#8211; is less than optimal. Stinespring always assigns breakdown to player performance, and not strategy.</p>
<p>I could go on, but perhaps you get the idea. One last shot &#8211; Bud Foster&#8217;s produced #1 defenses, Top ten defenses, on multiple occasions since Stinespring has been OC the last eleven years. Has Stinespring ever produced an offense ranked Top Thirty?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not even getting into the BS mantra that Stinespring and both Beamers consistently roll out &#8211; &#8216;We were only X number of blocks away from winning&#8230;&#8217;</p>
<p>To capsulize &#8211; if Stinespring ever, EVER manned up and accepted blame like Bud Foster, or if he had EVER proven he can produce an effective offense in his entire career, then perhaps people would cut him more slack. It&#8217;s his refusal, and Frank Beamer&#8217;s refusal to admit that there even exists a problem, THAT is the problem.</p>
<p>And that will be a source of complaints for as long as Stinespring is around and he &amp; Beamer don&#8217;t change their responses.</p>
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		<title>By: 540Hokie</title>
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		<dc:creator>540Hokie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2012 15:21:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry Andy, but you&#039;ve got to remember one thing.  Jerry, Greg and some of the other bloggers here are football experts.  They have years of playing and coaching experience and now are showing their knowledge of sports reporting.  It&#039;s time you knuckle under and do what they say.  I&#039;m sure they&#039;ll think you&#039;ll do that just as they expect Weaver and Beamer to do what they say.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Andy, but you&#8217;ve got to remember one thing.  Jerry, Greg and some of the other bloggers here are football experts.  They have years of playing and coaching experience and now are showing their knowledge of sports reporting.  It&#8217;s time you knuckle under and do what they say.  I&#8217;m sure they&#8217;ll think you&#8217;ll do that just as they expect Weaver and Beamer to do what they say.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Bitter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Bitter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2012 14:55:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are legitimate complaints, and then there&#039;s just blind bashing. So when the torrent of criticism about VT&#039;s offense goes from &quot;we aren&#039;t versatile enough&quot; to &quot;we don&#039;t stick to one thing&quot; to &quot;we need to line up and play smashmouth football&quot; to &quot;we need to spread it out and pass it&quot; (as though these are all magic elixirs that will solve the Hokies&#039; offensive issues) then yes, I will point out that people are being ridiculous and complaining just for the sake of complaining.

Now, you&#039;ve stated some legitimate complaints (and there are many), and when they&#039;re focused and reasonable, I&#039;ll agree with them. But when when VT loses to UNC 48-34 and the brunt of the criticism is still about Stinespring, then it&#039;s clear there&#039;s an ax to grind from the fan base. 

I get that there is frustration with the offense at times. But it&#039;s a default complaint even when the defense is at fault (UNC) or if it&#039;s an entire team failure (like Pittsburgh). Bud can call out players for not executing the plays and he&#039;s lauded as a no-nonsense coach who is preaching accountability. Stiney does the same thing and he&#039;s shucking responsibility. He can&#039;t win with anything he says.

Some of the gripes are legitimate. A lot are over the top. And I will point that out.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are legitimate complaints, and then there&#8217;s just blind bashing. So when the torrent of criticism about VT&#8217;s offense goes from &#8220;we aren&#8217;t versatile enough&#8221; to &#8220;we don&#8217;t stick to one thing&#8221; to &#8220;we need to line up and play smashmouth football&#8221; to &#8220;we need to spread it out and pass it&#8221; (as though these are all magic elixirs that will solve the Hokies&#8217; offensive issues) then yes, I will point out that people are being ridiculous and complaining just for the sake of complaining.</p>
<p>Now, you&#8217;ve stated some legitimate complaints (and there are many), and when they&#8217;re focused and reasonable, I&#8217;ll agree with them. But when when VT loses to UNC 48-34 and the brunt of the criticism is still about Stinespring, then it&#8217;s clear there&#8217;s an ax to grind from the fan base. </p>
<p>I get that there is frustration with the offense at times. But it&#8217;s a default complaint even when the defense is at fault (UNC) or if it&#8217;s an entire team failure (like Pittsburgh). Bud can call out players for not executing the plays and he&#8217;s lauded as a no-nonsense coach who is preaching accountability. Stiney does the same thing and he&#8217;s shucking responsibility. He can&#8217;t win with anything he says.</p>
<p>Some of the gripes are legitimate. A lot are over the top. And I will point that out.</p>
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