Last-minute touchdown sends ‘crushed’ Virginia Tech to 28-22 loss against No. 8 Florida State
It was a heartbreaking 28-22 loss for Virginia Tech against No. 8 Florida State on Thursday night and a brutal deadline for us writers. Here’s my game story. And here’s Aaron McFarling‘s column.
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** Unlike losses earlier this season that ended in blowouts, Virginia Tech stuck close in this contest, grabbing the lead on a field goal with 2:19 to play but giving it back on a 39-yard touchdown catch by Florida State receiver Rashad Greene with 40 seconds left.
“It’s heartbreaking,” cornerback Antone Exum said. “You never want to lose like that, especially when you put everything out there on the line and leave everything on the field.”
Head coach Frank Beamer was dejected after but, like he has time and again this season, couldn’t fault his team’s effort.
“I am proud of our football team,” said Beamer, who came up just shy of his eighth career win against a top-10 team. “We just couldn’t get the thing to totally bounce our way. Again, we had the lead and we couldn’t hold it.”
** First, an injury note I’d like to get up top: Safety Michael Cole suffered a scary injury in the third quarter, staying down at the end of a play and lying motionless on the field. He was stabilized to a spine board and taken to LewisGale Montgomery Hospital for further testing.
Hokies trainer Mike Goforth said in a statement afterward that Cole never lost consciousness on the field but had neck pain and numbness in the upper extremities. Still, he was able to move all of his extremities.
A CT scan at the hospital did not show a fracture and Cole was scheduled to be discharged to go home Thursday night.
** This is Tech’s first three-game conference losing streak since the end of the 2002 season when it was still a member of the Big East. The Hokies, who got up to No. 3 in the polls that year, lost to Pittsburgh, Syracuse and West Virginia in succession.
This loss puts them in a bigger bind, though. Tech needs to win its last two games at Boston College and at home against Virginia just to become bowl eligible and extend the school’s postseason streak to 20 years.
“After a loss like this, the first thing you want to do is get back on the field,” quarterback Logan Thomas said. “That’s the way I feel, and I hope that’s the way the other guys feel.”
“We’ve still got two wins to get to be bowl eligible,” Exum said. “And we will get them.”
** Virginia Tech scored 12 unanswered points to take a 22-20 lead with 2:19 to play, but it could have been more. Thomas scored on a 5-yard run late in the third quarter before linebacker Jack Tyler forced a safety.
The Hokies started the ensuing drive at their own 44-yard line with 6:51 to play after a nice return by J.C. Coleman. But they couldn’t pull off the twin goals of scoring a touchdown or bleeding the clock all the way down.
Thomas completed a 15-yard pass to Tony Gregory on third down to move the chains. After a run, back-to-back passes to Corey Fuller and Dyrell Roberts produced first downs, getting the ball to the 24.
But the Hokies stalled out near the goal line. Three runs from the FSU 13 netted only nine yards. The last, a read play by Thomas up the middle, was stopped a yard shy of the marker.
“We actually had the perfect play drawn up,” Thomas said. “We just missed a block or I would have scored.”
Tech instead had to settle for a 21-yard field goal by Journell.
** It left too much time for FSU, though. EJ Manuel, who threw for 326 yards, showed why he’s one of the most efficient quarterbacks in the nation. He completed 4 of 7 passes for 66 yards, including the 39-yarder to Greene that was the dagger.
“We got mixed up on the coverage we were in,” Exum said of the game-winning play. “They picked us off and a guy was running free to the middle.”
“It was just something we practice every Thursday, two-minute drill,” FSU running back Lonnie Pryor said. “We knew we had to go out there and score to win the game. We practice it every Thursday. We wasn’t worried. We wasn’t nervous.”
It left Tech’s defense crushed.
“Those are situations where we need to play, we need to come up and make a stop,” Tyler said. “That’s what’s deflating about it That’s what we want to do, is be in that situation, and we still didn’t get it done.”
** The defense had an otherwise strong day, making the breakdown at the end all the more heartbreaking.
The Hokies held the Seminoles to 311 yards, more than 200 below their season average. They matched a season-high by sacking Manuel five times and finishing with 10 tackles for a loss.
FSU finished with negative-15 yards, tied for the third-fewest the Hokies have held an opponent to under Beamer. Arkansas State had negative-28 yards in 1997. Temple had negative-24 in 1998. Two others teams — East Carolina in 2011 and Temple in 2000 — also finished with negative-15 yards.
The Seminoles’ previous season-low this year was 125 rushing yards at N.C. State. It was their worst rushing effort going back to at least 1973.
** Offensively, Tech wasn’t as sharp as it could have been, but the Hokies’ 385 yards were still more than anyone but Clemson had gained against Florida State’s league-best defense this season.
Thomas was 19-for-34 for 298 yards and a touchdown but had two picks. The first was a bad read on an underneath route that Tyler Hunter jumped for a pick. The second was on a ball thrown behind Corey Fuller in the final minute, again picked off by Hunter.
The Hokies’ success came mostly in the air, though. Fuller had a team-best seven catches for 124 yards and a touchdown, hauling in a 4-yard pass in the end zone on a well-thrown fade from Thomas. It was the second 100-yard game of Fuller’s career. He now has a team-high five receiving touchdowns.
Tech, like most teams FSU has played, found running lanes hard to come by. The Hokies finished with 87 rushing yards, led by Coleman’s 41 on 16 carries. Tony Gregory had 19 yards on eight carries. Thomas, who was sacked twice, had 13 yards on 10 carries.
Michael Holmes did not get a carry, the kind of narrowing down of the running back rotation many thought would happen last week against Miami.
** Some other quick hitters:
- PK Cody Journell made field goals of 35 and 21 yards but pulled a 43-yarder in the second quarter. His career long remains 42 yards. It was Journell’s second field goal miss in the last two weeks after missing a 47-yarder at Miami.
- WR Marcus Davis had two catches for 68 yards, making a nice catch after contorting his body on a 54- yard pass in the first quarter, but he had a couple of big mistakes. He fumbled near midfield at the end of a reception that was going to be negated by a penalty anyway, setting up an FSU touchdown in the third quarter to go ahead 20-10. In the fourth quarter, he dropped a deep ball that was well thrown by Thomas. Tech would punt on the possession.
- Senior Alonzo Tweedy stepped into a starting role at whip linebacker and took full advantage, finishing with six tackles and 1.5 tackles for a loss and providing a speed element to the edge of the Hokies’ defense.
- CB Kyle Fuller and Tyler led the defense with eight tackles apiece. DE James Gayle had two tackles for a loss, including one sack. Tyler, Tweedy and Antoine Hopkins all had 1.5 tackles for a loss.
- For FSU, defensive end Cornellius “Tank” Carradine had a game-high 11 tackles, including a sack.
- Freshman CB Donovan Riley intercepted his first career pass, thrown into the game early on a third-down play near the goal line. A tipped pass bounced right into his hands at the 1-yard line.
- Walk-on Josh Trimble recovered a muffed punt by Hunter in the second quarter, giving the Hokies the ball at the FSU 34. Tech didn’t go anywhere with it and the drive ended with Journell’s missed field goal.
- Thomas’ rushing touchdown was the 18th of his career. Only Tyrod Taylor (23) and Bob Schweikart (21) have more in Tech history at quarterback.
- Tech had a seven-game home winning streak snapped.
** The game was the second the Hokies have lost in the last minute of the fourth quarter this year. They lost to Cincinnati 27-24 at FedEx Field on a touchdown pass with 13 seconds left.
This loss left a similar feeling.
“It’s hard because I thought we played well enough to get the win,” Tyler said. “Quite frankly, I think we’ve played well enough to get a lot of wins this year. It just doesn’t seem to be happening. The balls aren’t bouncing our way and we’re not making plays when we need to. It’s frustrating, it’s deflating. I think we’re all crushed.”
November 9, 2012 - 12:00 AM
Coaching changes better happen! This sorry offensive staff struck again.
This was a tough loss, in large part because it was so “winnable”. Although both teams missed opportunities but Tech was hurt by key penalties, turnovers, errant passes and receiver drops. Those kinds of blunders hurt any team but the Hokies simply could not afford to have them tonight. Tech was in the game late and even had the late lead due to the best defensive performance of the year. I am happy to give Bud Foster and his staff credit for an overall good game. Of course there is the matter of the last FSU score where the defensive backfield, as a group, looked lost. I think it was the wrong defensive call on that play and bad execution. Tough loss capped off by another horrible pass by Thomas and a pick by FSU.
I dreaded watching this game. Watched it out of indifference at first- they couldn’t possibly compete with FSU- and then continued watching after the D played with a fire I had not seen earlier in the year. With the continuing offensive errors in the second half, and what seemed like less of an overwhelming force on Defense, my hope that VT could win faded pretty quickly, until the safety. And then, once we failed to score a TD, I knew there was too much time to stop FSU from scoring. Pretty predictable- the coaching staff couldn’t put together a successful set of plays to get three yards for a first down.
Situational playcalling, bad clock management. Long developing run plays…I could go on.
Conservative Beamer mismanages clock again. Why run hurry-up at end of game to kick FG and leave 3 min on clock?
Go for the 4th Dn and short, get it, and game is over. FSU didn’t even have to use a timeout – felt like Matt Ryan and BC all over again.
Always exciting but kind of game I have come to expect,find a way to lose
Can’t wait for 2013 hope key players return with chip on their shoulders
Maybe adjustments with play calling will help
The Hokie defense did far more than could have been expected. The couple of long pass plays hurt them, though. That would have been hard to eliminate totally.
Very tough loss…..reminds me of years past……hopefully we will win last two; this will make UVa game really mean something this year……just better take care of business @ BC first!
GO HOKIES!!
As a Hokie Alum and donor I would like to voice my displeasure along with everyone else. We all realize that the coaching staff needs to be overhauled and the offensive line new and inexperienced but when are we going to look at Logan Thomas as a huge part of the problem? His decision making is the worst I’ve seen in a Hokie uniform is quite some time. I realize he is a running threat, some of the time, but with the exceptions of a few decent passes a game he is extremely inaccurate and doesn’t seem to be the answer. I understand that he has the hype but is that hype based on ability, potential, or the fact that he is Cam Newton sized?
If these players return next year, and improve in their performances, Tech could have a good season, except for the upcoming loss to Alabama.
Too many of the “who farted” looks by CFB on the sideline when the offense was on the field. There were some great moments by the offense, and it was made clearer that it’s not a lack of talent – we have some real athletes. Frank looked lost on the sidelines with the “are you kidding me” looks on some of the critical play calling. I can’t wait for the coaching apologists to pipe up today – I don’t pretend I have any answers or that drastic surgery in the coaching staff is required, but once again, we can’t get the job done against a top 10 team. The results speak for itself.
Can someone please tell me why on every 3rd and short to medium we run LT up the middle on that stupid draw (rhetorical question)! I know it worked most all year last year but ITS NOT WORKING THIS COACH!!!!! OPPOSING Ds KNOW IT’S COMING!!! If I can call it from my couch I’m sure opposing D coordinators can call it. Poor clock management and poor play calling, seeming to settle for a FG at the end lost this game. I thought FSU would kick a FG in the waning seconds and win 23-22, that’s what we deserved with the bonehead bungling of our goal line O on the go ahead FG. Thanks D for hanging in most all game. I’m so sorry you have pathetic offensive coaches and a mistake prone QB, O-line, no running back, and a loud mouthed WR who is all thumbs who fail to support you and your hard work. Get a real OC and maybe VT will be taken seriously on the national scene again.
Folks, I am old enough to remember the Jerry Claiborne era so I certainly remember the early struggles of Frank Beamer. Many many times in the late 80′s and early 90′s Frank’s teams had a lead going into the final minutes and he would go to the “prevent defense” like he does now. They lost 80% of the time because a good quarterback, given time, will eat you up in that defense. Then Dave Braine made Frank get rid of coaches and Phil “the animal” Elmassian(sp?) came to town as defensive coach. He play aggressive attacking defense, not 60%, not 80% not 90% but 100% of the game. Attacking defense. Frank started winning big time…for many years and Foster kept the attacking mentality. BUT the last few year we are back to that nickel (Prevent) defense and we can not hold a lead at the end. The only thing the prevent defense does is prevents your team from winning. Come on Foster/Beamer remember what got you great and go back to the Phil “the animal” attacking mentality the entire game.
What is the latest count for loses against top 10 teams???
Is Foster the only coach that can get it done?
The defense played their guts out. The awfulfence just can not put it togeather. I hope the team can come togeather, and finish with two wins. They have the talent. I am glad to hear that Michael Cole is ok. The short coach.
Seminoles receivers appeared much faster than their Tech defenders. That was somewhat of a surprise to me.
This season has to produce something. If this season results in the search and hiring of one of the better available offensive coordinators in the country (one that may be able to take the reigns from Frank when he does decide to hang it up) then maybe it is worth the pain.
Some changes on offense do seem in order. Not so much from last night’s game but just a general statement on the season. I have read time and time again about what a good recruiter Stinespring is and this should not be dismissed. If he is that important in recruiting then fine make him a strict position coach and give him more freedom and time to recruit. I don’t know who needs to go but if Frank does a fair analysis of his coaching staff I bet he knows.
You can see from the last few games (since some guys got healthier) that Foster’s defense can still be dominant. With Foster at the helm I have every confidence that the defense will be fine going forward.
Hiring of a bright young OC would relieve one of my biggest fears which is that there is an effort to get the Tech fan base comfortable with the idea of another Beamer as head coach. I as a Tech fan and alum am not comfortable with that. I don’t care if the next coach is a Beamer or an alum I just care if he can coach and recruit us forward.
Not so sure the OC and OC staff are responsible for the offense not scoring more. It looked to me like there were many opportunities (well called plays) that weren’t executed (dropped passes/turnovers). Nothing the coaches can do about that.
One thing- I think this was the most “productive” loss of the season. There is a lot of potential next year and the young guys on offense and defense are starting to look pretty well in spots. This season will pay off down the road I think.
I agree with Drew but I would go further Fire them all!!
Drew, did the coaches throw the interception. Did they cause Davis to miss the catches? It was a great effort and good game plan against the #8 team in the country. The players need to make the plays and not commit penalties. It is a team effort.
If Beamer really wanted to score a TD, then don’t run on three straight downs. 2nd down was a killer. Running Coleman for 2 yards. It is like we LOVE 3rd downs..like we have to find a 3rd down situation. How many times do we also run on 2nd and long. We automatically set up 3rd downs and low percentage situations. But he was hoping for a TD…. go making the freaking TD!
The last 2 games, our senior wide receivers have let us down. Last week both Roberts and Davis didn’t step up with TD catches in the end zone and against FSU, Davis, “the Freak” was quite unfreakish. It is evident why he hasn’t been a starter in the past even though he had more raw talent than both Boydkin and Coale. Right now, Fuller is the much better reciever — wished he had another year of eligibility. These two guys, along with Thomas, were suppose to be the hope of the offense. Thomas, at least, leaves it all on the field every game. Roberts surely doesn’t and Davis is just a so-so pass catcher. And, finally, why did it take so long to get Tweeedy on the field this year? We’ve needed more speed and a sure tackler all season; I think the coaches were building for the future and that kept him on the bench. Maybe we would’ve won another game this year if Tweedy had started all season.
Wow!!!………..Florida State’s last drive capped by a 36-yard hookup from E.J. Manuel to Rashad Greene that resulted in a game-winning touchdown was truly a work of art!!………Congratulations to the Seminoles and Virginia Beach product E.J. Manuel!!!………Can you say “4-6″ Chokie Nation?!!!……….I love it!!!!……Could not have happened to a more deserving “constantly” overrated and underachieving football program!!
I agree Drew. I have been griping about the O.C.s for a few years and it is time for the Offense staff to go. The O just cannot function together and that is the job of the Offensive staff. Also Thomas has become absolutely erratic and that is probably a combination of things that are going wrong. How many 5yd and 10yd passes did he miss? The coaches are responsible to find out what is wrong with Logan and either help him or replace him. The defense looked much better and like Crooked Road said, the long pass plays can happen when you are playing one of the top-ranked offenses in the country. Hopefully improvements will keep on coming with the Hokies but even so, in the off-season some major changes are needed.
Go Hokies!
With good and knowledgeable coaching those boys could be undefeated ! !
my posted comment after the pitt loss was simple. put a lid on the money funnel. that will force the admin to make staff changes.
Move Fuller and Knowles up to starting at WR and move Roberts and Davis down. Basically,if its not perfect, Davis won’t catch it and Roberts is dogging it if he’s not prime receiver. He cost us a TD when he shut it down and Thomas threw perfect pass which sailed over his head. No sacks or hurries in last FSU drive cost us game. We know the DB’s have had trouble in deep coverage all year so stop the drive at the source. I can guarantee you the finger pointing is rampant in the locker room. Might as well play the ones coming back next year, this season is toast.
You know when you turn off the TV and go to bed with a “well that wasn’t too bad” following a loss things are bad. When “we almost won” is a victory of sorts things are going in the wrong direction.
Let’s give credit to the offensive line who performed admirably against one of the best defenses in the nation and certainly in the ACC. Thomas had plenty of time to throw. Yes we didn’t establis the run but I really am starting to attribute that to a lack of running back talent or experience, probably much of the later. It’s a rarity for our RB’s to break a tackle. They’re so small defenders are arm tackling (often with just one arm) with ease. If Tony Gregory weighs an ounce over 175 I’ll eat my hat and Coleman also lacks the size to be successful up the middle. Scales has shown himself to be the only option when size and power are required other than Thomas himself and FSU was obviously keying on him in short yardage situations. Can you blame them.
Kudos to the Defense who kept EJ Manuel off balance most of the night. The secondary had some nice plays and of course some breakdowns, but some of that is to be expected. Defense was not the problem with this game and I won’t insult readers or Bud Foster with talk of a “prevent” defense when I know that was not the case. I still see the talent and the depth on defense that gives me hope for the future. I hope Michael Cole will be okay and able to get back to the game – he has shown tremendous potential for a freshman – could be our next Cody Grimm.
Whoever posted the comment about the “who farted” look on the sidelines from Frank Beamer was quite amusingly spot on. Rather than showing your disgust to players for their mistakes I would certainly love to see you pull Stinespring or Cain down on the field and chew their behinds on National TV. Did you see how your receivers are carrying the ball? That’s instinct and a bad one at that. And that’s bad coaching that fails to eliminate that instinct to carry the ball like a smelly diaper.
The starting receiving corps except for Fuller has been a bust. I really expected more out of Roberts – I thought he would be another Andre Davis this year with his speed. Marcus Davis for all his “talent” has shown tremendous downside. Knowles showed me a lot for a freshman. Still I don’t know how we’re going to get better at the position next year with only Knowles and DJ Coles returning.
For many of us older guys there’s a sense of nostalgia in the air (and that’s not necessarily a good thing in this case). The season has been reduced to presenting beating Virginia as the only real victory for the season. A time was the success of a season was solely based on that and unbelievably that day has come back around. Time to start packing up. Time to start playing some of your players who are going to be playing next year. I know it’s a unique concept but this season is over and qualifying for a bowl game is not going to make it better so play to win, but play to improve for next year. Teams often take several years to recover from a season like this if they ever do. Our problems are in every facet of the game and at almost every position. This will not be easily rectified.
After a while, the panic and tantrums are simply amusing. I sat among FSU fans last night, and they were cursing Jimbo Fisher and EJ Manuel all night until the very end. What an incredible lack of perspective… akin to preschoolers. All that whining and misery is hilarious and pathetic, both at FSU and VT.
Grow up, people. A 20-year bowl streak may end? C’est la vie. This happened to Bryant, Paterno, Bowden… to practically all of the elite coaches and elite programs. Beamer has the most wins of any active FBS coach… he has certainly earned the faith of Hokie Nation that he will get the team back to its previous level.
Yes, Beamer and crew have a lot of offseason work to do. The foundation is OK, if not great… most of the starters are back from a young team, and we already know this is a team that, at its best, can play on even terms with a top-10 Florida State program.
Recruiting needs to pick up, and Beamer does need to give serious thought to making adjustments to either coaching staff or coaching philosophy. So be it… he will do it in the same measured way that brought VT success (longest active 10-win season streak… 3rd longest active bowl game streak… most wins in FBS from 1995-2011) that has been the envy of the vast majority of college football.
Keep up with the panic, hand-wringing and tantrums; it makes for entertaining reading. Set it to the old Hee Haw tune “Gloom, Despair and Agony on Me”.
I always believe in going for the win. Everyone has said correctly that the 3rd down play was predictable. Remember at the end of regulation in the Sugar Bowl last year, same call on 3rd down. The read option was stopped, a field goal kicked, and the game lost. This has been a tough year; hopefully, the play calling and clock management will be addressed going forward, Kudos to the defense for the majority of the game. It was nice to see aggressive, attacking play from that unit. Let’s hope for 6-6 to become bowl eligible and for the staff to realize what adjustments they need to make going forward to be less predictable. At 56, if I can call the plays before they happen, ouch!!
Tom said it! Roberts and Davis need to catch the ball.I love J.C. But thay man handle him most of the time he needs more weight and muscle.(Trey Edmond) should have played this year.
If you always do what you have always done , you always get what you always got. (Stinespring)
Glad to see the defense back up to the standards of VT. Too bad it didn’t score some points like it has in the past, since the offense has an aversion to doing so. The myth of “Stinespring is a good recruiter” needs to be buried deep in a hole in Stadium Woods. If he was so good, then how come these great Virginia high school quarterbacks (and other players) are playing for our opponents instead of for VT? Maybe they see something (like the horrible offense) and want no part of it.
OK for everyone that thinks Frank Beamer is a coaching GOD I want to remind everyone that his wins were in the Big East and ACC. What is our record against the SEC? Or how about the Big Ten or the Big Twelve? It is time for change. Would we have made the national championship game in 99 without Vick? I say no and that he brought a lot of the great talent to Tech not the coaches. But I am just wasting my typing because everyone loves Frank because we beat the weak conferences so let’s keep him and the other offensive duds around so we can beat bad teams. Alabama 55 Hokies 10.
A top 10 team… You knew Tech would choke it away eventually… 20 years of tradition built on beating also-rans…..
If they played in real football conferences do you think they get 20 straight bowl games?
They need to go 5-7 this year to force MAJOR changes to that offensive staff…
“Alabama 55 Hokies 10.”
Pretty much, but then they can get back to playing bad acc teams and win games and possibly an acc title b/c the league stinks…
FSU is “ACC good.” Meaning good for this lousy conference, but until they beat a quality team out of conference they are nothing special… Tech and Beamer made millions on being “ACC good.”
VT is about 15 years behind the times of college football….
I continuously read all the negative comments about the coaches from so-called “fans” on this site. Then I went on another site reporting on last nights game and read the comments posted there from some Florida State “fans” calling for their head coach, Jimbo Fisher to be fired. I guess there are just alot of stupid people in the world.
Forever Hokie wrote: “Drew, did the coaches throw the interception. Did they cause Davis to miss the catches? It was a great effort and good game plan against the #8 team in the country. The players need to make the plays and not commit penalties. It is a team effort.
Comment by Forever Hokie — November 9, 2012 @ 8:50 am”
Coaching starts on Monday. Not at game time. It is clear that offensively, the boys on the offense are not being coached properly and have not been taught certain key fundamentals.
Seriously, Bud’s kids get better each week. The defense plays with a great level of intensity. LT is also a great kid and an amazing athlete. A good quarterback coach, and good offensive coaches, would have had his completion percentage way up by working on certain fundamentals as well as those of the receivers. Some major changes are going to have to be made on the offensive side of the coaching staff.
And Frank needs to take down that empty trophy case for the national championship, and let Bud Foster put a battered up Lunch Pail on a pedestal there. If Frank and the offensive coaches start getting that blue collar, lunch pail mentality again, the NC will take care of itself.
Watching FL State’s HC Jimbo Fischer, just like watching Urban Meyer on any given Sunday, shows a different level of intensity. CFB is going to have to get this back, or turn the reins over to Foster. I graduated just a few years before CFB took us to where we are today, and have a son at VT now. I admire CFB for what he has accomplished. But if he can’t get the intensity back, and make needed changes to the offensive staff, he may end up a last 10 year win/loss record much like Paterno and Bowden did.
Well said “KIRK”!!………I totally agree!!!…….The number speak for themselves!!…….BCS RECORD = (1-5)…..ALL-TIME RECORD AGAINST TOP 10 = (8-46)…..ALL-TIME RECORD AGAINST TOP 5 = (1-26) – BEAMER’S RECORD AGAINST TOP 5 = (1-18) – and that lone win came against Miami at Lane Stadium – Miami is not part of the notoriously “WEAK” ACC, so that doesn’t say much, does it?
You can spin Va Tech’s and Beamer’s record to make them and him, look good, but, the bottom line is the numbers do NOT lie!! – It is what it is for the most constantly overrated and underachieving program in all of college football!………Don’t forget, that VA TECH also plays a lot of CUPCAKES every year just to pad Beamer’s record!! – To make him look more successful in the win column than what he really is as a coach.
Shucknjive took the words out of my mouth, I don’t think they FSU is on par with the other top 10 teams, maybe ND. I’ve watched maybe 3 FSU games and last night confirmed my suspicions, they’re good for ACC, not great.
@Appalwriter #30. I strongly disagree with your perception that there is “handwringing”, “panic” and “tantrums” in these posts. Nearly all of them are well-reasoned expressions of dissatisfaction with certain aspects of our favorite team. Many of the problems outlined in this forum are problems that have existed for years so that cannot be called panic. Furthermore, it is the prerogative of a team’s fans, especially the ticket-buying and donating fans, to criticize the coaches or the players in a knowledgeable way. So it seems to me that you are the one who is most shrill. And BTW, I am not so sure that you are not a FSU fan anyway. You certainly do not seem like a Hokie fan.
Whats up men?
I’ve been out of town.
How are the Hokie Brids dong this year?
the true freshmen needs more playing time that riley kid he is the future of the secondary
Hey Appalwriter I am a big Hokie fan. I have spent over $10,000 for games, travel and merchandise all about the Hokies. So don’t think we are just crying on here about a bad season. I have been following the Hokies since the early 80′s. I am sick of losing when we have the talent to win. We want change and we want it now. Seriously are you happy with a coach that has a 1-18 record against top 5 teams? If you are happy beating Austin Peay and Florida A&M then good for you. I want a team that scares other teams and one that recruits all want to go to. Oh wait once again I am wasting my breath because the school refuses to make a change because Beamer has won over 200 cupcake games. Here is your hee haw cry…. When oh when will my Hokies hire a new coach…..I searched all over for a reason for frank to stay…..all I could see was more cupcake wins….so I refused to spend another dime on them until they hired a new coach.