Comments on: Four Hokies commitments make final Rivals 250 for 2013 — how does that compare to past years?

By: 540Hokie

540Hokie — Fri, 25 Jan 2013 01:06:00 +0000

CR, you’re just tiring. ” phonily first claimed that the ‘national championship’ talk is generated by the media and ‘haters’” That’s your OPINION, not a fact. The closest your post came to an actual fact was the 3 words, “You hate me”. It was only close because I hate no one, but you are easy to despise. Why don’t you become a Hoo? You’ll have more to be critical of. And sorry I ended a sentence with a preposition. Getting off the blog now to watch the b’ball game. You may have the last word, I won’t read it.

By: crooked road

crooked road — Thu, 24 Jan 2013 21:57:30 +0000

#48 540H, of course you don’t hear Frank talking about his empty trophy case. Except once he gets his tenth win of the season. You totally phonily first claimed that the ‘national championship’ talk is generated by the media and ‘haters’, when in fact, it’s only rubbed in your apologists’ faces when it’s laughably easy. You’re now backpedaling to say that the fan base is involved. When challenged further, how much more will you backtrack? The trophy case is still dusty, and Frank still uses it when convenient, and retreats when not.

You hate me reminding you how empty the trophy case is (and we both know it, ha ha), as I’ve said before – I’ll stop referencing Frank Beamer ordering the empty trophy case being erected and pointedly referenced when Frank admits it and has the trophy case removed. Until then? Not a chance. The trophy case is empty, and the dust is still collecting.

By: 540Hokie

540Hokie — Thu, 24 Jan 2013 20:32:18 +0000

All right!! CR’s favorite subject, the empty Lexan case. I agree, it should never have been installed. However, the point I was arguing was Newbery’s contention that ” the VT athletic administration continually creates pre-season images of a “National” contender.” If you’re citing the trophy case, that was brought up a LONG time ago. You seem to be the only person still concerned about it. Haven’t heard Coach Beamer mention it in years. The continued “National Contender” image does not come from the VT athletic administration. The VT fan base is not the Atletic Administration and to pretend that it is not fueled by the media is inacurate, to say the least.

You always state that posters don’t read all of your criticisms and that you are misunderstood. In this case, I don’t think you comprehended my or Newbery’s references.

By: Al

Al — Thu, 24 Jan 2013 20:28:53 +0000

Perch…do you really believe the “quality of education” is a driver for these football recruits? How highly ranked are the VT programs of University Studies, Communications, Undecided, etc.?

By: crooked road

crooked road — Thu, 24 Jan 2013 19:57:33 +0000

#45 540H, you’re spinning on that one, and quite a bit. I am certain that the media weren’t those responsible for the construction of the empty Lexan case with the plaque – ‘Reserved for the National Championship Trophy’. That originated in Blacksburg, by Frank Beamer. Agreed, now that he sees the amount of effort required, he’s instead downgraded to preaching ACC titles as a good thing, but that started with Frank, and has continued on an annual basis with many fervent believers among the Hokie faithful. Every August, you hear it, and not by the media, but by a select portion of the Hokie fan base. Pretending that is not the case is inaccurate, to say the least.

By: 540Hokie

540Hokie — Thu, 24 Jan 2013 19:07:05 +0000

No offense to Andy, but I think the “national” contender talk comes more from the media and detractors than from Blacksburg. The media mentions it and the detractors pick up on it with statements like, “you are supposed to be national contenders.” I’ve never heard that come from B’burg along with never hearing any promises. I’ve just heard things like, “our first goal is to win the conference”. Even back in 1999, when the media would bring up the fact that the Hokies were contenders for the “national championship”, Coach Beamer would only say, “We just have to keep winning, everything else will take care of itself”.

By: Don Newbery

Don Newbery — Thu, 24 Jan 2013 17:06:22 +0000

Please, do not take this personally. The point is, the VT athletic administration continually creates pre-season images of a “National” contender. Year after year they are a “National” failure. If their goal each year is to defeat the University of Virginia and some ACC teams, they are doing a good job. The number of big time intercollegiate football programs recruiting in VT’s six-hour radius grows each year. As we all know, competition gets more fierce each “Day.”. If their recruiting is so wonderful in their six-hour radius, why is their offensive line so mediocre year in and year out? Why didn’t they have at least one big-time and productive running back this past season? It is a different atmosphere than it was during Coach Beamer’s first 20 to 25 years at VT. If he doesn’t, than the faithful VT fans will be going to the “Left Behind” Bowl each year. Here comes UNC, N.C. St., Florida St., Miami, Syracuse, Louisville, and perhaps even Duke? What about Notre Dame? Big time college football is a “Nationsl” game.

By: 540Hokie

540Hokie — Thu, 24 Jan 2013 16:23:03 +0000

Newberry, I’m interested in what promises VT has made. I’ve never heard the word promise come out of the football program.

By: Andy Bitter

Andy Bitter — Thu, 24 Jan 2013 02:03:25 +0000

Listen, I covered Auburn. I know what its recruiting philosophy was. And while that might have been expanded by the national championship season (after which it got recruits from Arizona, Colorado, etc.), the heart of its recruiting was still winning the state of Alabama and expanding into Georgia, Florida, South Carolina and Louisiana (and, with Malzahn, also Arkansas, since he’s a legend there).

Look at Auburn’s 2011 class, a few months after the national title. One Delaware, one North Carolina, one Arizona and the rest are in SEC country. You recruit well locally and expand when you have connections that make it possible. It’s an approach that most schools take. Virginia Tech is no different.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/auburn/football/recruiting/commitments/2011/Auburn-75

Also, those Kansas and California commits this year for Auburn are community college guys. It’s like VT recruiting Fork Union and Hargrave, essentially.

By: Don Newbery

Don Newbery — Thu, 24 Jan 2013 01:48:57 +0000

I just found Auburn’s 12 big-time commitments for their football team. 2 from Alabama – 1 from California – 1 from Colorado – 2 from Georgia – 4 from Kansas – 1 from New Jersey – and 1 from Oklahoma. How about LSU? Their football roster has 6 players from Alabama – 3 from California – 3 from Florida – 4 from Georgia – 1 from Illinois – 2 from Michigan – 2 from Mississippi – 1 from Nebraska – 1 from Oklahoma – 1 from Tennessee – 7 from Texas – 1 from Washington and 1 from Australia. Take a look at Louisville’s new commits – take a look at Syracuse’s new commits – Take a look at Florida’s new commits – VT does not belong in their recruiting league. Facts are facts. To the VT administration, stop fooling your faithful fans – you have a local intercollegiate football program… Stop making promises you can not keep and just enjoy what you really are. Andy, let VT defend themselves.