2011.02.22
The Giles County School Board caves on the Ten Commandments thread
www.godhearme.org
The Giles County School Board this morning caved on the Ten Commandments in school classrooms and has ordered them removed. It was the right thing to do.
Here’s the story from my colleague Jeff Sturgeon, with an interesting statement from the ACLU:
“We’re skeptical that this new move is the end of it,” said Rebecca Glenberg, an ACLU attorney.
Your thoughts?
Previous post: The Ten Commandments in the Classroom.
Bunch of wussies. Here in a few years when our dollar bills read “In Allah We Trust” you’ll be preaching a different story, Dan.
Comment by Jack — February 22, 2011 @ 2:57 pm
#1 I have to ask, what paranoia do you think is going to take over? Muslim I guess? Maybe one day we will all have to say Allah we trust? We are a nation of laws and reading how or forefathers did want a separate church and state county should show maybe the reason why.
Comment by billhudson — February 22, 2011 @ 3:40 pm
So, if you support the US Constitution, you run the risk of falling under Islamic rule? Hmmm, interesting theory. Using that reasoning, we should’ve converted to Islam by the 1790s, at the latest.
Comment by Rick — February 22, 2011 @ 3:41 pm
Hey Jack- look on the bright side: when the dollar bills say “In Allah We Trust”, at least you’ll have that prayer in school thing you want.
Comment by John B — February 22, 2011 @ 3:55 pm
Talk about a red herring.
Comment by Kristen — February 22, 2011 @ 4:00 pm
Frankly, I think the “Big Ten” in schools is not a bad idea. The promotion of prayers, no matter the deity of which they are implored, goes too far in any intelligent and civilized society…be it Jesus, Allah, Buddha, Jehovah, or any other religious entity. Let’s just keep it simple and peaceful, with our own personal thoughts and meditations.
Comment by Bobby Buck — February 22, 2011 @ 4:13 pm
Presumably the good people of Giles County can continue to post this commandments in their homes and churches and on private property. Which is pretty much the way it should be.
Comment by Mike Scott — February 22, 2011 @ 4:27 pm
The ACLU wins another one for the constitution without costing the Giles county tax payers any significant money for the ignorant unconstitutional actions of their school board.
Even better, but I am surprised to see the school board acting in the best interests of the children instead of acting like children themselves.
This is a fight that the school could not possibly have won, but like in Dover, the ignorant and religious often believe the lies they hear in their self-contained right wing christian circles as if they were truth.
I think I agree with Ms. Glenberg, I am not convinced this is over.
Comment by VVArlock — February 22, 2011 @ 4:27 pm
All this shows is that the almighty dollar is king. The FFRF had more dollars to waste on a frivolous lawsuit than Giles County did.
It was the right thing FINANCIALLY to do… but that’s all. The majority wanted them kept up.
Comment by hokie24 — February 22, 2011 @ 4:35 pm
Rick, the constitution isnt being followed. Thomas Jefferson would be sickened by the way his words have been twisted. How about we are all allowed educational vouchers in order that we may have our children educated in the manner that we as parents wish? I do not like the trend in schools since peanut Jimmy created the Dept. Of Education. I think liberals are likely to ridicule my desire for the vouchers. Oh, I can choose my school now, but I have to pay twice. Liberals will belittle and fight vouchers because that would mean they would no longer have a captive audience for their ideas. Once we can choose schools, then some parents may choose a school where the 10 commandments are displayed. Others may choose a school where something else is displayed. The idea that government dictates education is ludicrous.
I am disgusted by the way that libertarians and conservatives are treated by the liberal. For all the accusations made by the liberal towards the others, the liberal is worse in is turn. Civility???? I have seldom heard a tone more uncivil than that of the modern liberal. The modern liberal listens to no logic or common sense. Anyone not in lockstep with the modern liberal is deemed an unschooled dunce. The fact is the modern liberal feels that the role of government Is to deliver the same results to all. The fact is the modern liberal wants government to do anything and everything possible for us. There is a place for government of each level. For federal government, it’s place is to be found in the constitution as it is written and not as has been interpreted by federal judges.
Comment by David In Salem — February 22, 2011 @ 4:54 pm
Not only should we get religion out of the schools,but we should get government out of the school business.
We should slowly shift to private schools only,that would eliminate or virtually eliminate this and other constitutional issues with schools.
Return the job of education to parents.Imagine our children being raised without the Public schools PC and govt. propaganda,and educated in accordance to the wishes of their folks.What a brave new wonderful world it would be!
Comment by Jack Mcguire — February 22, 2011 @ 5:08 pm
“Rick, the constitution isnt being followed. Thomas Jefferson would be sickened by the way his words have been twisted. How about we are all allowed educational vouchers in order that we may have our children educated in the manner that we as parents wish? I do not like the trend in schools since peanut Jimmy created the Dept. Of Education.”
David in Salem,
What you suggest would be contrary to Article 8 of the Virginia constitution, which begins: “The General Assembly shall provide for a system of free public elementary and secondary schools for all children of school age throughout the Commonwealth, and shall seek to ensure that an educational program of high quality is established and continually maintained.”
Comment by Dan Casey — February 22, 2011 @ 5:37 pm
David, your kid is in school for 180 days – 50% of the year. Surely you can manage to teach him the 10cs the other 50%.
Frankly Jack, when I read a lot of posts here, I reflect on what society would be without schools. It’s depressing.
Comment by Kristen — February 22, 2011 @ 5:40 pm
Those pushing their religious views in schools (posting of commandments, a desire to bring back prayer in school, etc.) want one thing. Access to the children who they can’t get into their pews. They aren’t alone. Corporate America has also been pushing hard to get access to this captive audience for years (channel one, advertising, etc.).
I don’t think this is over. I think the wannabe theocrats will push back hard if Giles backs down. I also feel sorry for the plaintiff families in the lawsuit should their names ever get out. I am not so sure what acts they would be the recipients of, but I’m willing to bet it wouldn’t be Christian love and understanding.
Comment by wilbert — February 22, 2011 @ 5:46 pm
I wonder what you would think if a school board posted the Vedas in the halls of your school. I think you would not be so pro-religion in schools. In fact, I think most of you pro 10 commandments would be less pro religion if that religion was Hindu or Islam.
Comment by Barry J — February 22, 2011 @ 6:08 pm
I like how on Facebook WSLS posted about it and then a bunch of folks weighed in, complaining about how the Commandments had been removed all while breaking #2 there with their little icon pics.
Comment by skeeter — February 22, 2011 @ 6:19 pm
As I’ve said, my sources have told me the two families recruited by the atheist kooks and the ACLU (after much effort) had to be promised payment. That should you tell you something about the so-called rulings of the past.
Comment by Suzie — February 22, 2011 @ 6:37 pm
#14
“Those pushing their religious views in schools (posting of commandments, a desire to bring back prayer in school, etc.) want one thing. Access to the children who they can’t get into their pews.”
Absolutely. That’s exactly what all this is about.
Also, “Jack McGuire” said in #11, “Imagine our children being raised without the Public schools PC and govt. propaganda,and educated in accordance to the wishes of their folks.”
Yeah, imagine it. Kids brought up with no comprehension whatsoever of sex — and what they do know of it is skewed and twisted beyond recognition. Kids brought up by paranoids who think that carrying guns somehow equalizes all the good and evil in the world. Kids who have no concept of how the “other half” lives — meaning that out there in the real world they’ll someday have to deal with people who don’t think, act, dress, or believe the same things they do. Repressed, undereducated, misinformed, naive, and socially retarded kids. Millions of ‘em.
Yeah, imagine it. The WIcked Witch said it best: “What a world! What a world!”
Comment by AF — February 22, 2011 @ 7:02 pm
Today the Washington Post included this note at the end of an article on a Supreme Court decision in a vaccination case:
“In other action, the court decided not to revisit its 2005 ruling that struck the display of the Ten Commandments in two Kentucky courthouses.
“Lower courts had continued to bar McCreary and Pulaski counties from posting the commandments even though each changed the display to include other religious and historic documents. The court did not comment on why it was not taking the case.”
Giles County would be defending a case they could not win if they continued to post the commandments. My guess is that someone finally succeeded in explaining this fact to them. It took them awhile, but the board members are to be congratulated for not wasting taxpayers’ money in a fruitless attempt to favor one religious sect over all others.
Comment by Fact Checker — February 22, 2011 @ 7:05 pm
“As I’ve said, my sources have told me the two families recruited by the atheist kooks and the ACLU (after much effort) had to be promised payment. That should you tell you something about the so-called rulings of the past.”
She’s making it up again!
Comment by Dan Casey — February 22, 2011 @ 7:31 pm
“I wonder what you would think if a school board posted the Vedas in the halls of your school”
I think we should post the Kama freakin’ Sutra.At least the kids would get some enjoyment out of it.
Comment by Jack Mcguire — February 22, 2011 @ 7:32 pm
#1 Jack: You read the news at all? Those Arabic countries you’re scared to death of can’t even govern themselves. I heard that exact same line used about 40 years ago, substituting “communism” for “Allah”.
Comment by scott whitaker — February 22, 2011 @ 7:33 pm
“As I’ve said, my sources have told me the two families recruited by the atheist kooks and the ACLU (after much effort) had to be promised payment.”
Rice Krispies don’t qualify as a “source”.
Comment by Kristen — February 22, 2011 @ 7:34 pm
17.As I’ve said, my sources have told me the two families recruited by the atheist kooks and the ACLU (after much effort) had to be promised payment.
Your sources? Are you an investigative journalist?
Comment by Debbie — February 22, 2011 @ 7:40 pm
Re: comment 17. Your sources? Are you an investigative journalist?
Comment by Debbie — February 22, 2011 @ 7:42 pm
Sorry for the double comments. The site was acting weird, I wasn’t sure if the first one went through.
Comment by Debbie — February 22, 2011 @ 7:44 pm
Suzie
That is not how it works. People contact the ACLU in every situation (and it is almost always the complaining or injured party who does so) and the ACLU does not promise anyone money, merely to pay the legal expenses.
As a card carrying member, I am familiar with their procedures. Your claims sound like the kind of thing Rush would say.
No surprise.
Comment by VVArlock — February 22, 2011 @ 7:45 pm
Suzie –
Question: What qualifies someone as an ‘atheist kook’ in your book? OR an ‘athiest kook’ depending on your spelling ability that day.
Comment by VVArlock — February 22, 2011 @ 7:55 pm
More good works by the ACLU
http://www.aclu.org/lgbt-rights_hiv-aids/pennsylvania-town-must-pay-100000-threatening-tell-teens-family-he-was-gay
Police behaving like christians loses the city money. Your religion has no place in your work if your employer is the people. Period.
Comment by VVArlock — February 22, 2011 @ 8:00 pm
LOL, she has “sources”. At least you can still make us laugh!
Comment by Sandi Saunders — February 22, 2011 @ 8:05 pm
“As I’ve said, my sources have told me the two families recruited by the atheist kooks and the ACLU (after much effort) had to be promised payment. That should you tell you something about the so-called rulings of the past.”
Voices in your head again? I just wonder, do these voices have distinct yet objectionable personalities?
Just out of curiosity, did the voices tell you what dollar figure it takes to buy two atheist families? Or…was it two Christian families that were persuaded to masquerade as atheists. Either way, I really need a baseline value in case I get contacted to help secularize a school.
I wonder if this particular assertion on the part of Suzie falls into the category of “bearing false witness”.
Comment by Mike Scott — February 22, 2011 @ 8:22 pm
Ironically, the Constitution IS being followed. Even the Liberty Council refused to represent them “as they were displayed”. The arrogance of putting them WITH the Constitution was their overkill and it backfired even for people who WANTED to fight for them. It happens when bullies get on a roll and muck it up. Suzie does it regularly and Jack every chance he gets as well.
I am not arrogant enough to posit what Thomas Jefferson would feel, but I know that what he wrote and worked for in his own life and times was not marrying religion and education. His support of a free public education was NOT in pursuit of special treatment for only some children. “Vouchers” should not be supported by tax dollars and that will remain as long as Mr. Jefferson’s dream is honored instead of used and abused.
Nothing except your own choices stop anyone from having their children educated in the manner they choose. I do not like revisionist history, arrogant abuse of the Constitution for political purposes, or the trend in schools to be political and religious football games.
Unless you went to private schools, you all are living proof of the lack of liberal control, bias and brainwashing. Let’s just say you are particular about what you swallow.
In what realm do you “pay twice” BTW. People without children pay too you know. There is no special “parent tax”. If anything, you get a tax break for having children, the rest of us do not.
First you interpret Thomas Jefferson’s feelings and then you trash his legacy? Do you get the irony there?
I am disgusted by the way that Liberals are treated by Conservatives and Libertarians so we remain even on that score. After two decades of ElFlushbo hate and the chorus of his dippo heads, it is laughable in the extreme to pretend Liberals can hold a candle, much less be worse.
Unless you too cannot stomach Suzie and Jack McQuire’s posts either, it is a flat out lie that it is the Liberals who are “more uncivil”.
What Conservatives consider “logic or common sense” remains a mystery. Anyone not in lockstep with Conservatives is deemed wrong and beneath contempt.
Stick to defining Conservatives, you have no clue about real Liberals and you have proved that.
Comment by Sandi Saunders — February 22, 2011 @ 8:34 pm
Suzie Q made that comment after her latest visit to the GC with her Klatch. Those, I’m sure, were her sources.
Comment by Ron — February 22, 2011 @ 8:52 pm
Scott: “I heard that exact same line used about 40 years ago, substituting “communism” for “Allah”.”
Are you saying that the communists were not intent on taking over the world as was clearly stated in their doctrine? Are you saying Khrushchev didn’t bang his shoe on the podium at the UN and say, “We will bury you!”? Thankfully, for 40 years each successive US president not only heard that line as you did, but they believed it, and followed the Truman Doctrine, which held that because communism was a “bankrupt philosophy,” our approach should not be to defeat them militarily, but to prevent them from spreading any further (Containment Policy), and eventually they would collapse from within – which is exactly what happened. I know that wasn’t the point you wanted to make, but it is history, and the analogy can be very instructive for the threat we face today. Like the communists, radical Islam’s goal is to take over the world and force their religion on all of us, as they do in their countries. We should employ a similar strategy to confront the spread of radical Islam around the globe, and aid its collapse from its own bankrupt philosophy. But unfortunately, this time political correctness has us hog-tied, and the attacks on our Christian heritage and religion only abet the enemy’s cause. And as for what’s happening in the ME now, I fear the overthrow of the dictators will lead to fertile ground for radical Islamists to take over their governments, just as the overthrow of the czar enabled the Soviets to take power, and as has already happened in the Muslim world when the Shah of Iran was overthrown. Finally, for Rick, just because radical Islam wasn’t in a position to take over the world in 1790 doesn’t mean this is not still their goal, and that they won’t be capable of it in the future. And here we sit worrying about the appropriateness of some very good rules to live by wrongly influencing our children.
Comment by Oakie Hokie — February 22, 2011 @ 9:52 pm
Dick? Is that you?
Comment by Art Hill — February 22, 2011 @ 10:16 pm
The conversation I engaged in years ago was with a fellow who defended his need to have handguns in his house because the “commies will soon be knocking on our doors” to rape our wives and children. He threw in the comment about “In Communism we Trust”. I doubted then that my having a handgun in my house would thwart communism or save my family from their pillaging, raping hordes, or more accurately, their nuclear weapons. I feel the same about “Radical Islam”. What strikes me is that many of the countries you would include in “Radical Islam” are also Islamic States, or theocracies of one sort or another. Countries with one state sanctioned religion, or perhaps better put, a government sanctioned by the religious hierarchy. The irony is striking. You refer to our “christian heritage” as if Christianity defines who we are, is a part of our national identity, is etched in stone in our constitution. As if we were a theocracy ourselves. As you know, quite the contrary, what defines this great country is our tolerance of diversity and our freedom to practice, or not practice, the faith of each individual’s own choosing. For that reason, the Commandments should not be allowed in public schools. You have the right to have them in your Church, in your private school, on the back of your car, in your car, on a billboard, at your dinner table to discuss with your children. But you do not have the right to post them on school property. Because by doing so, you are saying to the children, this is the religion you children should follow. No government anywhere should have that right. It is not political correctness, it’s called a democracy.
Comment by scott whitaker — February 22, 2011 @ 11:06 pm
Suzie
That is not how it works. People contact the ACLU in every situation (and it is almost always the complaining or injured party who does so) and the ACLU does not promise anyone money, merely to pay the legal expenses.
As a card carrying member, I am familiar with their procedures. Your claims sound like the kind of thing Rush would say.
No surprise.
We actually have some good friends down there who are very close to the situation. From what I hear, the money is coming from the atheist kook organization. Presumably they’re the ones who finally rounded up a couple of victims-for-hire and got them to file suit.
Comment by Suzie — February 22, 2011 @ 11:21 pm
Question: What qualifies someone as an ‘atheist kook’ in your book?
Oh, that’s an easy one, Warlock. Atheist kooks are the Christianity police who have radio shows begging for plaintiffs to come forth because some rural school 1000 miles away is posting ten proven rules of virtuous living that have been around for thousands of years. Then when a few weeks go by without results, they locate a couple of folks who might be amenable to litigation as long as the price is right.
Comment by Suzie — February 22, 2011 @ 11:32 pm
Barney Frank has broken #10 several times… at least whenever his neighbor is bent over tieing his shoe.
Comment by Marked Man (Mark) — February 23, 2011 @ 12:00 am
Suzie has sources?
Wonder how Limbaugh and Beck know so much about Giles County?
Comment by dave — February 23, 2011 @ 12:08 am
My parents disagreed with the idea of vouchers when they were bringing us up, and they were far from wealthy. They did get financial assistance from the private school the 3 of us went to, but they did believe that if you want something other than public schools, you need to make the effort to pay for it.
Comment by Allen Starbuck — February 23, 2011 @ 1:25 am
Suzie – And what is the name of the Atheist organization paying the plaintiffs? According to your sources?
Comment by VVArlock — February 23, 2011 @ 4:09 am
Oakie Hokie
Are you trying to imply that christianity is any less determined to take over the world?
What do you mean by ‘our christian heritage’ and the ‘attacks on it’? Be specific.
Comment by VVArlock — February 23, 2011 @ 4:12 am
#39- MMM, the difference is I don’t recall ever reading something from him about his being more religious than anyone else. That comment was geared to someone (and those) who constantly claims to be Christian, yet their actions never seem to reflect in any way what it truly means to be a Christian (the actually meaning of the word).
Comment by Magpie — February 23, 2011 @ 8:11 am
Oakie Hokie, you have missed an important point. What makes America, America? Is it just a bunch of Christians who call themselves something? No it is not. THAT would make us more like the radical fundamentalist terrorists who abuse Islam for their own purposes and call themselves something.
We are a nation forged by a Constitution and laws. In that Constitution is a simple, yet complex ideology that we are not a country founded by, for or on any religion. It does not even make common sense that people fleeing the dictate of forced adherence to the “Church of England” would fight a revolution and forge a nation based on the same forced (indoctrinated) religion. You have missed the mark entirely.
Here we sit, worrying about people who wish to make their religion the government religion and place it above other religions (or no religion) in government buildings and institutions. No one is concerned about “the appropriateness of some very good rules to live by wrongly influencing our children“. That is why they can be freely displayed on private property, in any home that so desires, in any business that so desires, in any, every or no church that so desires and carried on your person daily if so desired. Put that Hokie degree to good use and read the Constitution, the Federalists and some history and you too will see the mistake you have made.
Comment by Sandi Saunders — February 23, 2011 @ 8:19 am
“Oh, that’s an easy one, Warlock. Atheist kooks are the Christianity police who have radio shows begging for plaintiffs to come forth because some rural school 1000 miles away is posting ten proven rules of virtuous living that have been around for thousands of years.”
An example of said radio shows please. Nutt’n but a dose of innuendo…
and some more of those ideological troll blogging blues…
http://www.roanokevalleylocavore.com/itbb.mp3
Comment by Mike Scott — February 23, 2011 @ 8:21 am
#17 “That should you tell you something about the so-called rulings of the past.”
Even if Snoozie does indeed have some kind of source other than the voices in her head and even if money WAS offered, so what? Are you saying that proves that past rulings were bought with payments to SC justices? Come on, troll, more details on your allegations.
Comment by gdad — February 23, 2011 @ 8:21 am
#37 “We actually have some good friends…”
Now we KNOW suzie’s lying.
Comment by gdad — February 23, 2011 @ 8:23 am
Gdad
It is a much more recent thing that SCOTUS justices are available for hire through their wive’s income.
Comment by VVArlock — February 23, 2011 @ 9:43 am
#49 Very true, VVArlock.
Comment by gdad — February 23, 2011 @ 10:32 am
Suzie’s comments have the accuracy of SCUD missles…
That being said, I’m actually “on the ground” here in Giles County. In talking with current students of Giles High School who comprise our church youth group and in discussions with graduates thereof, until this controversy started, most were completely unaware that the 10 Commandments were even posted at their school. It was interesting that the day after they were removed the first time, copies of the 10 commandments suddenly appeared on lockers throughout the school. The day after that, copies of the Communist Manifesto were posted on lockers throughout the school.
My question in all this is, if we as Christians revere the Decalogue (the seminary word for the Ten Commandments), then why don’t we have copies of them posted in our homes and churches?! The issue is one of fairness, not majority rule, as some who have commented on this issue have stated. If one religious document is posted, then all have to be posted. I remember going through a similar situation in Farmville when the Gideons desired to distribute Bibles to Longwood (then) College students. They couldn’t seem to understand that if they were allowed to distribute Christian literature, then other groups would have to be afforded the same opportunity.
While I affirm the value of the 10 Commandments (and sincerely appreciate what the Gideons do in sharing God’s word with others), we have to understand that our beliefs, Christian or otherwise, cannot be imposed upon others. Constantine attempted that when he embraced Christianity as the state religion of the Roman Empire–forcing Roman citizens at sword-point to be baptized. It was coercion under a different guise–albeit a Christian one. It was no less coercive than when the people had to pledge an oath of allegiance to the emperor prior to Constantine’s conversion. Fear is not tantamount to faith. A “forced” baptism is no baptism at all.
I don’t see this as an attack on the Christian faith. If anything, it ought to convince people of Christian faith to seriously reflect on the meaning, value, and importance in teaching the 10 Commandments at home and church…as well as point out the dangers of collusion between church/religion and state which has always been the source of problems throughout history (ie. the crusades, the inquisition, the events of 9-11, and many others)…such is the way of those who practice what I call “Al Queda Christianity.” Perhaps Martin Luther King, Jr. said it best: “The church must be reminded that it is not the master or the servant of the state, but rather the conscience of the state. It must be the guide and the critic of the state, and never its tool.”
St. Francis of Assisi once wrote: “Preach often, if necessary use words.” Maybe instead of posting the commandments on the walls of public structures, we could remember the prophet Jeremiah’s message as he shared these words to a recalcitrant people: “But this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the Lord: I will put my law within them, and I will write it on their hearts…” (Jeremiah 31:33). Maybe it’s about time we Christians allowed God to write these laws on the walls of our own hearts.
Comment by Morris Fleischer — February 23, 2011 @ 10:37 am
No kidding Warlock…Thomas and his wife are a disgrace.
Comment by Kristen — February 23, 2011 @ 10:48 am
#51- Excellent as always Morris! I especially liked- “Preach often, if necessary use words.” Some lessons are timeless.
Comment by Magpie — February 23, 2011 @ 12:29 pm
I started to comment here earlier, but got way too long-winded (as I’m apt to do) so decided to put it in a blog post. If anyone’s curious, here it is –
“My Atheist Response to Giles Co. Schools’ 10 Commandments Brouhaha”
http://craniumstew-labrujaroja.blogspot.com/2011/02/my-atheist-response-to-giles-co-schools.html
And harsh as my post may seem, know that many of my friends and family are Christian, and though I don’t agree with or really understand religious people, I don’t think they’re stupid or crazy. I just don’t like it when they want “special rights” (yeah, I picked that phrase on purpose) and deference over everyone else. As much as I may like someone personally and respect them as a fellow human being, a Christian may just as well be a Scientologist, jumping on couches and maniacally cackling at Oprah.
But I’m not surprised the objecting families want to remain anonymous, religion-based bullying is very real, and I was targeted all though school, though the worst was in elementary school, by the same little angels who trotted off to bible class on a special bus that picked them up on Wednesdays after school. Every day they taunted that Jesus hated me and I was going to hell, which was kinda pointless because as an atheist, I didn’t believe in it anyway. But it was still nasty to be targeted and teased, and I can imagine how much worse it would have been with their religious dogma splashed on the school walls, giving them something to point at to prove their favored status.
For all the griping about people from other countries wanting to change things, my family goes back in this area for at least 200 years, and I have roots in the colonies from the 1600s. And remember this, if a “majority rule” vote had been the end-all-be-all during the Civil Rights era, we’d still have racially segregated schools (as well as other facilities and services.) I greatly appreciate the majority of true Christians who live with kindness and generosity, and don’t abuse their cultural monopoly. They are the best ambassadors for their faith, but they must step up, because right now the rest of our country hears the banjos of Deliverance when they think of Giles County and the rural South.
Dan, I hope I handled the crediting of the photos correctly (and I have several links back here to the RT articles), but if I didn’t, please let me know so I can fix it.
Comment by Laura Hernandez — February 23, 2011 @ 12:49 pm
#54- Laura, very well said!
Comment by Magpie — February 23, 2011 @ 2:32 pm
Laura I’m sorry you were bullied by children using Jesus’ Name to bully you. Children can be very cruel, but shamefully for those of us who claim to Love The Lord and follow Him – we too can be rude, bully and not follow His Word. You were in no way shown the real love of Christ in their actions, and they should have never teased like that.
Despite our differences in feelings about faith, your writing should remind those of us who call ourselves “Christian” to make sure we walk the walk.
I have to give a shout out to VVarlock that I’m still trying to connect with my friend back at my old church in Winchester about her son – to get that info to VV. Haven’t forgotten about it….
Comment by charlie — February 23, 2011 @ 3:02 pm
Great posts, Morris & Laura.
Comment by Lori — February 23, 2011 @ 3:26 pm
“…bullied by children….”
Isn’t that redundant?
In my experience bullying is childish and and bullies are children — if not by chronological age, by level of maturity.
IMHO, no mature person would resort to bullying.
Comment by DaveH — February 23, 2011 @ 5:16 pm
Bullying may be childish, But it is certainly done by people who are supposed to be adults. Just look at the Governor of Wisconsin oer the
ertwhile candidate for the Senate from Alaska- Joe Niller. Or Bill O’Reilly on his Fox “News” gig.
Comment by dave — February 23, 2011 @ 6:44 pm
No kidding Warlock…Thomas and his wife are a disgrace.
Translation: “What’s a black guy doing on the Supreme Court?”
Comment by Suzie — February 23, 2011 @ 8:25 pm
Well looks as is one of my comments was lost, again. If this turns out to be another dup, sorry.
Re: #59
“Bullying may be childish, But it is certainly done by people who are supposed to be adults.”
———
Yup.
It’s “done by people who are supposed to be adults” — by chronological age.
When it is done by “adults” it show….
For those of the persuasion, see: 1st Corinthians 13:11
Comment by DaveH — February 23, 2011 @ 8:45 pm
Pretty clear what Thomas is doing on the court. Selling himself as fast as he can
Comment by Kristen — February 23, 2011 @ 9:21 pm
Pretty clear what Thomas is doing on the court. Selling himself as fast as he can
Yeah, dem folks. Dey always be hustlin’ ya.
Comment by Suzie — February 23, 2011 @ 10:53 pm
Not me, SuzieQ, but perhaps some among us are more easily “hustled”.
Comment by Kristen — February 24, 2011 @ 8:30 am
#60 “Translation: “What’s a black guy doing on the Supreme Court?”
Look, suzie’s quoting her buddy, Jack McGuire.
Comment by gdad — February 27, 2011 @ 1:56 pm