‘dave’ posted the 85,000th approved comment
dave post it Saturday at 3:32 p.m.
Congrats, dave! Please help yourself to a volume from Dan’s Bookshelf.
This isn’t the first time dave has posted one of the milestones. He posted #55,000, too. Here’s a little bit he wrote about himself back then:
Thanks for the opportunity to select another book even though I have done nothing to deserve it.
My first name is David, thus my blog name dave. My family, friends and business associates mostly know me by my middle name.
I am a Roanoke native and have never lived outside the Roanoke Valley. I come from a wonderful, large and loving family and have three fantastic daughters and nine grandchildren who are the foundation of my life.
I graduated from the best state school in Va. ( and the toughest one to get into) with a B.A. and later earned a masters degree in school administration and psychology. I spent 13 years in the public schools as teacher and administrator.
I then left for the business world and have sold real estate, trained agents, and managed an office since then. (I also spent a few years as a part timer on the RT sports writing staff).
I have been active in politics since graduating from college including membership on county and district committees and a brief fling at running for office.
May 15, 2011 - 12:00 PM
Congrats, Dave! Let us know what book you select.
Thanks Dan. This time instead of talking about me I would like to share some quotes from two of my alltime favorite people—Harry Truman and
Bobby Kennedy.
Truman’s wisdom and humor included these jewels most of which are still clearly appropriate for today:
A bureaucrat is a Democrat who holds some office that a Republican wants.
The Republicans believe in the minimum wage–the more minimum the better.
Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a Republican. But I repeat myself.
My choice early in life was either to be a piano player ina whorehouse or a politician. And to tell the truth ther’s hardly any difference.
I do not understand a mind which sees a gracious beneficence in spending
money to slay and maim human beings in almost unimaginable numbers and
deprecates the expenditure of a smaller sum to patch up the ills of mankind.
Experience has shown how deeply the seeds of war are planted by economic rivalry and social injustice.
You know that being an American is more than a matter of where your parents came from.It is a belief that all men are created free and equal
and that everyone deserves an even break.
And finally from Bobby Kennedy, my personal favorite:
There are those who look at things the way they are and ask why. I dream
of things that never were and ask why not.
Food for thought on a fine spring Sunday.
Dave is a good and faithful blogger and comes across as a well rounded decent person. Proud to know you Dave!
“A bureaucrat is a Democrat who holds some office that a Republican wants”
Ha! I’ll steal this.
The nicest guy on the board also wins the book of his choice. I also derive a great deal of satisfaction when the person who wins also actually reads. Very nice karmic convergence. Kinda’ makes one wonder why some of our fellow posters even enter a contest where the prize is a book.
Enjoy your weekend, Dave!
It’s worth noting that dave might not have won, had I not trashed one of Steve C’s comments that ran afoul of the new, “don’t insult other posters” policy.
Some days you’re the windshield, some days you’re the bug.
All I know is that if I don’t suffer the misfortune of getting raptured along with d/d and suzie on the 21st, I will have won the greatest contest on earth.
Congrats Dave!! There’s always next time Steve C.
Congratulations to dave.
And Steve C, it’s not too late to get your affairs in order for the 21st. Just on the outside chance that might be drawn up in the twinkling of an eye, you can still get your affairs in order at:
http://www.raptureready.com
They’ll make sure your pets are fed, food gets thrown out the refrigerator and your hidden stash gets sourced out to the appropriate friends.
I don’t hold out much of a chance of making the first cut, but I’m still gonna dress nice just in case.
Dave is a good and faithful blogger and comes across as a well rounded decent person. Proud to know you Dave!
Sandi says this right after Dave trashes Republicans. No compliment from this person comes without a dig at the other side and therefore it’s not a real compliment.
The fact is, Dave is as partisan a hater as any leftwinger on the blog.
Thanks Kristen, Sandi, and SteveC for the kind words. There are lots of folks on here that I respect very much, including you three.
MikeScott, I admire their entrepreneurial spirit.
Thanks also to Ron and Mike–two true gentlemen.
Gosh you share some great truths and humor from a great man, Harry Truman
and that makes you a hater! Suzie you’re a riot! Actually, some of my best friends are Republicans. I try not to hold it against them. They are
however, reasonable people who haven’t grown up with a twisted set of values believing that he who leaves this life with the most expensive toys
is the winner on the pathway to heaven!
And Suzie isn’t a partisan hater?
A few more great Harry Truman quotes, especially for our friend Suzie:
Fame is a vapor, popularity is an accident, riches take wings,those who cheer today may curse tomorrow,and only one thing endures-character.
Republicans approve of the American farmer,but they are willing to help him go broke. They stand four square for the American home-but not for housing.They are strong for labor–but they are stronger for restricting labor’s rights.They favor minimum wage–the smaller the minimum wage the better.They endorse educational opportunity for all-but they won’t spend money for teachers or schools.They think modern medical care and hospitals are fine-for people who can afford them.They consider electrical power to be a great blessing-but only when the private power companies get their rake-off. They think the American standard of living is a fine thing-so long as it doesn’t spread to all the people. And they admire the Government of the United States so much they would like to buy it. Kind of prophetic huh?
We should resolve now that the health of this nation is a national concern; that financial barriers in the wqy of attaining health shall be removed; that the health of all its citizens deserves the help of all the nation.
Never kick a fresh turd on a hot day.
I fired MacArthur because he wouldn’t respect the authority of the president. I didn’t fire him because he was a dumb son of a bitch, although he was. (read McChrystal)
Republicans don’t like people to talk about depressions. You can hardly blame them for that. You remember the old saying: Don’t talk about rope in the house where somebody has been hanged.
That Harry knew how to tell it like it is.
I think dave is now my second favorite person… right behind Harry Truman.
#9 Mike Scott,
Not sweating the fine print. In the unlikely event I get raptured, my cats are the spawn of Satan and in all likelihood will be traveling in the opposite direction. They won’t be needing Science diet where they’re ultimately heading.
Congrats, Dave!
Just watched the launch of Endeavour Space Shuttle. Watching these launches never ceases to amaze me. Gods Speed Endeavour crew!!
Congrats, Dave! I always appreciate the wisdom in your posts.
Way to go Dave. I love the Harry Truman quotes; he was truly a man for all seasons.
I agree Ron, having the courage to enter that capsule and blast into outer space is inspiring. Godspeed indeed!
Funny all you libs latching onto Truman. If he were a Republican, he’d be considered the biggest butcher in the history of the planet for vaporizing 200,000 innocent people and causing thousands more cases of cancer in women and little children.
Congrats to my favorite limerick writer!
So quoting someone means you agree with every thing they ever did? Mentioning someone means you support them? Got it!
Are people really congratulating Dave for having the dumb luck to push the “Submit Comment” button at the right time? Liberals surely wouldn’t think it an achievement to do something a chimpanzee could do. Oh wait.
So quoting someone means you agree with every thing they ever did? Mentioning someone means you support them? Got it!
I see Sandi is mouthing the current Obama/MSM template, as applied with the racist, cop-killing advocate, rapper “Common”.
But when Republicans pose with a guy they didn’t know was a crook, Bobby Thompson, then Sandi and the libs are all over it. Got it. The hypocrisy that is.
“But when Republicans pose with a guy they didn’t know was a crook, Bobby Thompson, then Sandi and the libs are all over it. Got it. The hypocrisy that is.”
Nice of Suzie to finally admit that Ken Cuccinelli accepted $55,500 in campaign contributions from “a crook.” who he called, pleading for more money for his campaign, and who he didn’t bother to check out in advance.
We’re making progress!
I’m sure Dave is a nice enough gentleman, but I’m afraid he’s stuck in the 40′s and 50′s. Don’t get me wrong, I love the 40′s and 50′s, but A LOT has changed in politics in the past few decades. Sadly, his beloved Democratic party has fallen into a state of depravity and tyranny. Dave’s heroes, Truman and Kennedy, would not even recognize their party as it appears today. Abortion, homosexuality, institutional racism and govt dependency have become its pillars, empowered by political correctness, double-speak, massive bureaucratic overreach and a lying media. Wake up Democrats! The party has left most of you years ago. Quit supporting a wayward party that has become decisively anti-Christian, anti-liberty and anti-American! (I made the painful decision 18 years ago and have never looked back..) Peace!
Nice of Suzie to finally admit that Ken Cuccinelli accepted $55,500 in campaign contributions from “a crook.” who he called, pleading for more money for his campaign, and who he didn’t bother to check out in advance.
I think it’s far worse when Obama knows the hateful racist views of a cop-killing advocate, yet showcases him anyway as an honored guest, where as Ken wasn’t aware Thompson was misrepresenting himself.
But you know, according to Sandi and Dan, even if Republicans had known about Thompson, “it doesn’t mean they agree with everything he ever did”.
Paddy, are you a Republican now? And are you seriously going to try and say that homosexuality and family planning rights aren’t two of the bigger dog whistles the GOP uses to keep the troops in line? Not to mention the rest of those “cultural” issues you listed?
Paddy O’ writes: “Quit supporting a wayward party that has become decisively anti-Christian, anti-liberty and anti-American!”
This is one of my biggest beefs with party-line followers. They follow blindly, based on what they hear to be true rather than what they know to be right. Republicans do not have a patent on morality. We have had this discussion many, many times on this blog. Being a “Christian” does not make you supremely moral any more than being a Muslim makes you a terrorist.
I support most issues the Democratic party stands for because I think it is our duty to help those in need, I think killing living human beings is wrong, and I see no advantage in continuing the wanton proliferation of firearms in our already violent society.
As for being anti-American… I don’t even know where to begin with this statement. You’re telling me that it is your belief that Republican politics support our people more so than the policies of the Democratic party? Perhaps you should refamiliarize yourself with the issues currently facing our citizens, Paddy…. especially those which have the greatest need. But wait! Perhaps you are of the belief that being American, in the true sense of the word means sticking it to those less fortunate so that you can benefit monetarily from their hard work… In that case, then, yes… I am VERY un-American!
Congratulations, Dave! I always enjoy reading your comments, and really loved the Truman quotes!
Paddy O’Ryan was surely joking. I mean it is comical to insist that Dave is the one who is stuck in the 40′s and 50′s as you prove that you are.
Speaking of depravity and tyranny, his beloved Republican party can easily be seen as having just such an agenda. Anyone willing to take from retiree’s the benefits promised, from the poor and indigent the medical care and support they need but cannot afford, from the workers who should be paid a living wage for any job they are working to make a living, from the young people for whom education is the key to opportunity, from colleges where our future leaders will come from and from the taxpayers to enrich the wealthy and powerful has no room to insult the motives or policy of anyone.
Jefferson, Goldwater and Reagan would not be any more welcome in the TEA protest movement than Hagel, Voinovich or Chafee and none would recognize their party as it appears today.
Using abortion and homosexuality issues as weapons of separation and denigration, using pseudo issues like “institutional racism” and “govt dependency” as dishonest bargaining chips that you are only interested in at election time is fatuously disingenuous. What exactly have the Republicans done on these issues when they had majorities to do what they wanted?
When hate is a “pillar” of your party, you do not have the moral authority to lead this nation. The reason that anyone would be “empowered by political correctness” is the simple idea that respecting people is humanity in word and deed. All parties have a lock on “double-speak, massive bureaucratic overreach and media manipulation”. Republicans who do not realize that the party left them decades ago have some time capsule catching up to do. And have no business calling anyone else “stuck in time”.
Paddy, maybe you “should quit supporting a wayward party” that has become decisively un-Christian, supports only limited-liberty and pseudo-American values! Or at least realize the glass house you are throwing stones from.
“No compliment from this person comes without a dig at the other side and therefore it’s not a real compliment.” You have GOT to be kidding?
So Suzie thinks Presidents who kill innocent people are butchers. About time you came around girlfriend!
You have been so kind as to share your opinion over the “vile” yet “conscientious” rapper Common, so please do tell us what you think of violent remarks about President Obama and Hillary Clinton? What about the violence in general in lyrics by other artists who are not Democrats? Do you have a double standard? Is it only people invited to or honored by the White House that you object to?
BTW, you cannot credibly have it both ways, either you embrace it all or you can pick and choose not BOTH. You cannot call Truman a butcher and Bush a hero. You cannot say Thompson does not matter but Soros does. You cannot say that only what you value matters and ignore that which is included. What is the word for when you say one thing is your belief and exhibit something opposite?
Suzie
“But when Republicans pose with someone they don’t know is a crook”
How do you know they don’t know he was a crook? As a matter of fact, how do you know they aren’t crooks right along with him? Like many politicians, they’d pose with Stan if they thought he’d give them enough money.
That’s Satan, not Stan! Sorry Stan, whoever you might be!
1. You have been so kind as to share your opinion over the “vile” yet “conscientious” rapper Common, so please do tell us what you think of violent remarks about President Obama and Hillary Clinton?
I’ve never heard violent remarks about 0bama or Hillary. Could you give us specific examples?
2. What about the violence in general in lyrics by other artists who are not Democrats?
I’ve not heard violent lyrics by artists that are not Democrat. Could you give us specific examples?
3 Do you have a double standard?
No, I don’t. You do.
4.Is it only people invited to or honored by the White House that you object to?
No, but I do object to advocates of cop killing being welcomed to the White House with the president’s full knowledge and blessing.
5BTW, you cannot credibly have it both ways, either you embrace it all or you can pick and choose not BOTH. You cannot call Truman a butcher and Bush a hero.
Sure I can. You people criticize Bush for killing far fewer people while being very careful not to kill innocent women and children unnecessarily. Yet you who whine so hard about peace seem to worship the guy who incinerated hundreds of thousands, just because he was a Democrat. If Truman were a Republican, the peacenik no-nuke kooks would be holding worldwide rallies and protests every August 6 wearing glowing skeleton costumes and such.
You cannot say Thompson does not matter but Soros does.
Big difference. Nobody knew Thompson was a crook when they took his money. Everybody knows who Soros is and what he wants, yet they take the money anyway. And Soros is giving billions to achieve his sinister goals. Thompson was a small potato.
How do you know they don’t know he was a crook? As a matter of fact, how do you know they aren’t crooks right along with him?
You’re confusing honorable men like Cuccinelli and McDonnell with crooks like Clinton and 0bama. You think all politicians act dishonestly because you’re used to your guys doing so.
And are you seriously going to try and say that homosexuality and family planning rights aren’t two of the bigger dog whistles the GOP uses to keep the troops in line? Not to mention the rest of those “cultural” issues you listed?
That’s odd. Neither of those social issues was part of the Tea Party platform. But you need your straw dogs, don’t you?
Suzie #39, if you are that seriously uninformed, there is no need to answer any of your requests. You have obviously chosen to condemn with little real information and context (as is typical of the rightwingers) and have freely admitted same. I have no desire to offer you the education you are lacking. Do your own research.
Paddy O’Ryan
Things certainly have changed since the 40′, 50′s, and 60′s. The Republican party of Eisenhower, Rockefeller, Gerald Ford, Bob Dole,
Caldwell Butler, and Linwood Holton has given way to the party of
Sarah Palin, Michele Bachmann, Jim Demint, Dick Cheney, Karl Rove,
Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck. It has become bigoted, intolerant,
confrontational and divisive and has sold its soul for the big dollar support of corporate America. It uses faux social issues as a lever to divide people and appeal to a base which then proceeds to vote against
its own self interest and allows the purveyors of hate and intolerance
to cynically further their agenda to centralize all the wealth and power of the country at the very top. It’s logo should be “The Greedy Old Party”
And unless people like you wake up fast, 1% of the people in this country will be controlling the rest of us in virtual servitude. Its way past time for people like you to wake up and come back home to the party that really represents the interests of Americans.
Re: #40
Suzie,
Are you saying that only the Tea Party represents and defines the GOP?
Man, Jon Stewart tourched O’reilly tonight on the Common issue. O’reilly just had nothing credible to come back after Stewart mentioned Bono, Ted Neugent, and Bob Dylan had also written songs about violence against cops and all have been invited to the White House. Oreilly’s hypocrisy was center stage and you could just see Bill knew he was bested by Stewart.
Classic TV. Can’t wait for the re-runs on youtube. Searched for it but it’s not out yet.
Ted Neugent on Obama and Clinton:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=757_1187963465
For you Suzie, now you can’t plead ignorance on the fact conservatives can be hate mongers.
Ozzie Osbourne invited to the White house by GWB:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/659370/posts
You remember Ozzie and his song “Suicide Solution.”
Just saying. I don’t care who the president has dinner with. But for the republicans to call out Obama for the Common invite is absolute hypocrisy. Get over it.
“After playing a clip of Karl Rove sarcastically saying, “Yeah, let’s invite a misogynist to the While House,” the host shook his head in frustration.
“Are we really doing this again? For this guy? Common? The guy from the Gap ads. The guy from the Queen Latifah rom-com. Elmo’s friend,” he said.
After noting some of the phrases that were offending Fox anchors, Stewart read one of the worst: “First time I shot her, I shot her in the side/hard to watch her suffer/with the second shot, she died.”
“I hope a killer like that is never allowed anywhere near the President of these United States,” Stewart said.
Oh wait, Johnny Cash wrote those lyrics.
And he was honored by George Bush at a ceremony in 2002.
Later, there was a takedown of Glenn Beck, Bill O’Reilly, Greta van Susteren, and, most poignantly, a clip of Sean Hannity supporting Ted Nugent who said he’d like to put a machine gun into Hillary Clinton’s mouth.
“It’s almost impossible to express how ridiculous this and you all [pundits] are at this point. It’s beyond a caricature of your own cartoon,” Stewart said.”
Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/jon-stewart-common-daily-show-glenn-beck-fox-news-2011-5#ixzz1MZVhqqes
Let me guess, you WILL defend it all.
Seeing you try to spell Ted Nugent puts me in a stranglehold, baby.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0c3d7QgZr7g
Hmmm, I didn’t realize Bono, Nugent, Ozzie, and Dylan all sang songs about burning a president alive??
I don’t post much, but I read this blog whenever I see anything from Suzie listed in the “comments” section. It’s Suzie vs. almost everyone who posts here, and she wins every discussion. She leads you into traps and then points out the hypocrisy/fallacy of your arguments.
It’s not surprising that some would like to have Suzie banned from this blog. It’s for the same reason that Christiansburg’s wrestling team is no longer invited to the Big Orange tournament in Vinton. People get frustrated when they can’t win.
The frustration of the other posters at losing all of the arguments to Suzie is evident by their personal attacks on her. Don’t get frustrated, try to improve. As the Christiansburg wrestling coach told the teams who didn’t want to compete with them, “Steel sharpens steel.” Having Suzie on the blog will ultimately make you better.
#51 You’re usually somewhat reasonable, VRWC, but this was one of the silliest posts in a while. Suzie regularly misquotes people and lies, and then when challenged to prove a misquote or fabrication, simply abandons the thread. She also defends some of the vilest posters on the blog, like DD and Jack McGuire, both of whom had to be banned.
You call that winning?
And who is calling for suzie to be banned? Dan likes having suzie here because she’s so outrageously ridiculous she draws comments.
MMM
1. Misspellings are common on this blog. I’m guily. So What.
2. You are putting words in my mouth I never said. “all sang songs about burning a president alive??” Never said or implied that. I said “Bono, Ted Neugent, and Bob Dylan had also written songs about violence against cops”
3. I hope this doesn’t lead to a stalking incident.
4. I’m not your “baby”
VRWC = hubby?
In my post #51, that should have been “iron sharpens iron.”
http://www.roanoke.com/business/wb/xp-17639
“It’s the old saying: ‘Iron sharpens iron,’” Dresser said. “Every kid on my team has at least two losses and some have six or seven. That’s because we go wrestle the best competition we can find.”
VRWC = wifey?
I was not putting ‘words in your mouth’. I was simply stating that while there have been singers that have sung songs about “violence against cops”, such as “I Shot the Sheriff”, those are still a very far cry from calling for the assassination of a president by burning him alive… which is exactly what ‘common’ did.
#54 One has to wonder, given the adoration in that post. Apparently Steve C has met the guy, although he’s sworn to secrecy as to identity.
VRWC,
Thanks for the kind words. In reality, it’s not all that hard to defeat these people’s arguments since liberalism is based on fasle premises and lies. The part that still amazes me is you can hit them directlly between the eyes with evidence, links, even videos that directly contradict their statements, yet they l cling to their disproven views with even more intensity. You could never imagine their saying “Of course you’re right. What was I thinking?
I can’t imagine how people can go through their lives with such closed uncurious minds.
Dan Casey: VRWC = hubby?
Sorry, Danny Boy, that dog’s not hunting. There are some leftwing regs in here who have met VRWC. You know better than to pull that .
VRWC clearly lives in delusionville…if he were “hubby” it might explain it.
Yeah…we all “lose” so we’re frustrated. You do realize, VRWC, that she almost literally never comes out on top of a discussion, don’t you?
Vast Right Wing Conspiracy has an odd definition of winning, hypocrisy, fallacy and personal attacks. Yes the distortions do imply a close relationship.
You don’t post often because your disingenuous parroting of right wing talking points can never withstand the scrutiny of truth and reality either. That you and Suzie ignore the proof of factual errors, distortions and dishonesty is not a badge of honor.
I suppose if you define “winning” as continuing to argue a point after it’s been proven wrong numerous times with actual facts, then yes, Suzie wins daily.
#59 “The part that still amazes me is you can hit them directlly between the eyes with evidence, links, even videos that directly contradict their statements,…”
You mean like that link, denied even by Republicans in Wisconsin, that claimed that union folks caused $7 million in damages to the Wisconsin capitol using painter’s tape? That was a great link, suzie. Hit me right between the eyes.
And that’s pretty typical for your links.
#55 So you’re saying that Christiansburg wanted to keep wrestling in a tournament that provided little competition for them and where they were blowing people out? Is that it, VRWC? Strange.
As for the iron thing, I can tell you from my wrestling days that if a guy is pinning you in less than a minute, you aren’t getting sharpened any and neither is he. And that iron thing goes both ways. Christiansburg now wrestles in even bigger tourneys, so they should be benefitting from that.
Now how that applies to arguing over suzie’s distortions and misrepresentations is beyond me.
“I can’t imagine how people can go through their lives with such closed uncurious minds.” Oh really? And yet, you cite propaganda as “sources” and “evidence”, you cite proven lies as fact, you cite distortions as reality and still have the nerve to label us false? I think the facts speak for themselves on who exactly lives such a closed incurious minded life.
Sandi at #62, do you mean my “right wing talking points” like being anti- death penalty and for the legalization of drugs? Maybe you’re offended because I’m for freedom and property rights? Well, sorry if you don’t like what I post, but it is what it is…
By the way, I do enjoy your posts. You are the perfect “straight man” for Suzie. The funniest part is that you think you are winning…that makes for some some good comedy. Without you, Suzie’s posts wouldn’t be as much fun to read.
VWRC,
Tell us more about your opposition to the death penalty. On what tenets is it based?
gdad #65, wrote “#55 So you’re saying that Christiansburg wanted to keep wrestling in a tournament that provided little competition for them and where they were blowing people out? Is that it, VRWC? Strange.”
gdad, I posted the link from TRT story. You can read the story, and figure out what the coach was saying about the tournament. Whatever Christiansburg is doing in wrestling seems to be working well. I certainly wouldn’t argue with their formula. I suspect it has a lot to do with hard work and desire. Maybe you think it’s not fair for them to win all the time and maybe they should let other teams win sometimes who don’t want to work so hard?
#55 So you’re saying that Christiansburg wanted to keep wrestling in a tournament that provided little competition for them and where they were blowing people out? Is that it, VRWC? Strange.
That’s exactly what happened. VRWC is correct. The Big Orange stopped inviting Christiansburg, so they started their own tournament, The Big Blue. You don’t think Christiansburg dominates their own tournament equally well, Gdad?
OMG. What have I done? I have bought myself at least 500 posts on wrestling. Opening the door to Gdad and mindless minutiae is like deciding to breed stinkbugs.
Dan, my opposition to the death penalty is because often the people who are the most remorseful and who are the most cooperative with the police are the ones who get the death penalty. The person who talks to the police and either confesses or gets pinned down on his/her story is much more likely to get the death penalty than the cool, calculating person who feels no remorse and does not make any statement to the police. To me, the second person is the more dangerous one and that person lives while the other doesn’t.
There are other reasons I oppose the death penalty too. The amount of time and the money it takes to get through the appeals process…The huge difference in representation between a person who faces a jury with a public defender who has little time to prepare, and a guy like O.J. who faces a jury with a “dream team” of lawyers…These are just some of the reasons I oppose the death penalty, if I thought about it more I could think of others.
You are the perfect “straight man” for Suzie.
LOL, VRWC. I’ve thought the same thing. Sandi throws me so many softballs, I am surprised people haven’t accused us of being the same person.
Vast Right Wing, I am well aware of what I “do” for Suzie’s posts. Nice try though. Same for your denial of posting right wing talking points. Thanks for the heads up, I’ll be watching for them now. Let me guess, you claim to be a Libertarian?
VWRC,
Those are good reasons to be against the death penalty. So is the fact that more than a few people who have been convicted of murder (some who were sentenced to death) have been much later proved innocent.
#69 I have nothing at all against Christiansburg wrestling or them winning a lot, VRWC. Where did I say anything of the sort? Oh, that’s right, I didn’t.
#70 “I have bought myself at least 500 posts on wrestling.”
Nah, suzie, I’m sure I couldn’t compete with your knowledge of the WWE.
#69 BTW, VRWC, Christiansburg’s formula does involve a lot of hard work as well as raising a decent amount of money. But the key thing is a coach who knows wrestling and is passionate about it. And then the kids who come from other states (as noted in the story), because without that there’s no way C’burg has this kind of team strictly with homegrown talent.
And I am willing to bet that if the team opposing Suzie had “ringers” on it, she would be the loudest caterwauling heard. “By any means” is a sad motto.
Suzie, calling my posts “softballs” is one thing, not being able to beat me, ever, only makes you look worse and that IS the truth of your “score” here. I prove your lies are lies, I prove your sources are propaganda, I prove your opinions are parrot points and I prove you wrong every time we have an issue for discussion. Actually, everyone here who refutes you does that. I am sorry that you are just not the challenge you believe yourself to be nor the achiever you want others to believe you are. The record speaks for itself and no amount of declared victories is going to smooth over your colossal losses. “Tell a lie often enough” and yes, some people might believe you, but not anyone who actually reads the exchanges.
gdad, you are probably right about the homegrown talent, at least initially. Now, I’m not so sure. They have a great feeder program and plenty of money and facilities. They might have all the talent they need now without the transfers. To clarify, I’m not saying they ever recruited – I think that kids who wanted to be in a great wrestling program would seek them out. I don’t blame the kids, parents, or coaches for that. If a kid has talent, why leave him in a mediocre program?
Sandi at #73 wrote, “Let me guess, you claim to be a Libertarian?”
I don’t claim to be libertarian. I consider myself to be anti-socialist and pro freedom. If you read my posts they follow that theme. You won’t find me advocating “nation building”, higher taxes on anybody, more regulations, more government, etc. My positions are usually opposite of the Democratic party.
Re: #51
“she wins every discussion”
———-
ROFL
What are you smoking, drinking, or otherwise ingesting?
She the biggest loser on this blog.
I take a great deal of satisfaction that a blogger respected by both sides notes that I win every debate. I knew this was the case, but it’s nice to see others notice as well.
#82 Actually, suzie, VRWC’s posts have recently gotten more and more slanted and illogical of late. He doesn’t post often but it was quite obvious the last couple of times he did. His post about you this time was just silly. And then he suggests that I think Christiansburg winning so much wasn’t fair and that they should let other teams win more when, of course, I said nothing of the sort. Suddenly he’s copying your posting style.
I USED to respect his posts somewhat. Not any longer.
Re: #82
Well you and VRWC might delude yourselves as to you consent losses, given that in another thread you defined “winning” as getting in the last word (by someones rule), w/o concern for logic, content, validity, facts, etc.
However, rational folk know that the “last-word-win” ya-ya-ya is a grade-school sandbox fantasy.
But if it gives you satisfaction to deceive a single blogger, enjoy.
#83- gdad, at first I thought VRWC was a parent at our school. This guy is a conservative but thinks for himself on various issues too. Most areas he does veer right on, but some are more to the center or even left of center. It depends on what it pertains to- like VRWC and actually most people.
He can be very thoughtful and serious, and you can have some really thought provoking discussions or debates with him. He also has a strong sense of humor that veers on the absurd though. That’s a big reason I thought VRWC was him. He does this type of over-the-top stuff too, and he loves trying to spoof everyone. If you didn’t know him personally you’d think the fawning and some of his actions were really creepy. If you do know him, then you’d know it was all tongue in cheek and find this contrast to how he usually acts pretty hilarious.
That should read “Where he tilts depends on what it pertains to…”
If we learned nothing else from GWBush, we learned that “declaring victory” and actually achieving it are two very different things. Suzie labors under that same propagandist mantra. If she “declares” victory often enough, someone not a fellow right winger might someday believe here. She has a rich fantasy life, I’ll grant you that.
“Iron sharpens iron, and one person sharpens the wits of another” (Proverbs 27:17, NRSV).
I’m trying to figure out all this talk about winners and losers… It seems to me that we all want to live in a better world. The problem is that we can’t agree on how to do it or exactly what that that better world might look like. If winning is all we’re about here, then we may need to examine our own motives.
Could it be that the debate itself has become sort of an “opiate?” We are so fixated on the arguments that we use up valuable time, energy, and resources that could be better used serving in a soup kitchen or advocating for the needs of children or helping our veterans or visiting the elderly…or whatever fits your passion. Have the “means” now become the “ends?” If that’s the case, we’ll never get anywhere.
#85 Well, if he’s spoofing about suzie, then I admit he got me.
It looks like Suzie is having her way again. I don’t know if she talks as well as she writes, but I think she would be an outstanding regular guest on the television political talk shows and I am not kidding. Suzie demonstrates superior knowledge in everything she writes and on the few occasions when she appears trapped, she can turn the tables very deftly. If this blog is any indication, she shows a remarkable ability to draw and hold an audience. People definitely come to this blog just to see what she’s said and take their turns at trying to beat her. It’s definitely a talent and an amazing thing to watch.
gdad, I have no idea if he is or not. You have to wonder though when you compare the extreme difference between those two posting styles of his. Also, he and Steve both seemed to enjoy each other’s company that time they met. I could imagine why with “VRWC-1″, but if “VRWC-2″ isn’t a spoof even somewhat then could you really imagine either of them liking each other at all?
VRWC is not “spoofing about Suzie”. He means it.
Magpie, gdad, Sandi, I’m definitely not “spoofing” about Suzie. I have no idea if Suzie is her real name or if Suzie is even a woman, but she is impressive. It is difficult to keep up with one topic on this blog and to discuss one issue. Suzie keeps up with all of them, she answers all of the posters, and she keeps the blog going.
She answers from principle a lot of times, but she also is good with the nuts and bolts answers. She knows a lot about a lot of issues. This is a liberal dominated blog and most of you don’t like what Suzie writes, but put yourself in her position. Imagine being on a conservative dominated blog with about 15 people constantly attacking you on every issue. Do you think it would be easy to keep up? Do you think you could control that blog the way Suzie does this one?
I just saw Yetanotherjason’s post and I think he nailed it. He wrote, “Suzie demonstrates superior knowledge in everything she writes and on the few occasions when she appears trapped, she can turn the tables very deftly.” Remember it’s usually Suzie vs. “Everybody” else and against all odds, she dominates the blog.
I wonder if YAJ & VWRC also think that Charlie Sheen is WINNING.
#94- VRWC, as I said to gdad you reminded me of this other person who “…does this type of over-the-top stuff too, and he loves trying to spoof everyone.” And I was thinking you were spoofing everyone- not just Suzie.
I couldn’t imagine that after some thoughtful posts, not all that I agreed with, that you could actually also sound (sorry but that’s the way it comes across) like you’re trying to stroke her ego in a subservient, creepy manner. Sure both sides say complimentary things about their “pals” on here too, Suzie included, but the way you’ve been doing it has been very different. I’m not just saying that, because it’s Suzie you’re championing. yetanotherjason always boosts her up too and so do several others, but not in the way you have. That’s why I thought you were doing it tongue in cheek.
What are the odds? Bound to be astronomical.
Vast Right Wing and Yet Another, you are forgetting that most right wing dominated blogs would not allow us in, much less engage us the way Suzie is allowed to do here. If we ignore her she just gets nastier and more outrageous until someone takes her bait, if we refute her, she changes the parameters and declares victory and if we dare to prove her wrong, call her out or reveal her deceptions, she resorts to insults. She is free to discuss her issues with people who agree with her. She chooses to come in here with her distortions, misrepresentations, accusations and insults. She has made it plain that she only respects those that agree with her and she delights in belittling and insulting even when she is proven beyond doubt to be wrong. If the two of you consider that impressive, it is very telling. She is “impressive” like the right wing hate mongers are “impressive”. Not very.
So what are you, cousins, in-laws, members of the “Klatch”?
I respect Suzie’s (and Sandi’s) writing abilities, and that also goes for many other posters here. But what sets Suzie apart is that she’s so wrong, so often, and she’ll never admit it when it’s obvious to everyone here.
The issue of the stimulus funds for the 221 project is only the most recent example.
VRWC, I agree with you that suzie draws a lot of comments, sometimes takes over parts of the blog, and even sometimes knows what she’s talking about (whether or not I agree with hr opinion), but otherwise I have to question either how much attention you really pay to her posts or, once again, your sincerity. The suzie you describe is not the suzie who posts here.
#97 Now that I’ve seen Sandi’s post I’m glad I didn’t go into any more detail because she sums it up nicely. This is exactly how suzie “dominates” the blog. Nothing admirable about it.
I have to agree, Dan. Suzie would rather have her fingernails pulled off one by one, than admit to being wrong about anything.
VWRC and YAJ
The only “dominance” Suzie ever exerts on this blog is in sheer number of posts. But as for reasoning, having the ability to recognize facts when she is clearly proven wrong, and the incivilty and often racially tinged tones of her comments, she doesn’t dominate anything. She just proves that she is a rigid, uncompromising person who thinks she is the only one who can ever hold a valid opinion.
I think it’s interesting the incestuous cesspool of blog libs see things one way, but two people who live real lives and pop in here occasionally see things 180 degrees differently. But then again, would we expect the folks we pummel daily to sing our praises?
Suzie thinks she lives in the real world?
Well that’s a better joke than the “consecutive win” one.
Maybe she has gotten some new material.
I am not embarrassed to tell you that the only person and the only credibility you “pummel daily” is you and your own. I have had several people who read but will never comment here mention how awful and nasty your posts are. I have never thought of asking them to come in here and defend me or insult you as that is not the purpose and this is not a game. That you deliberately sabotage any discussion, hijack every thread you can and denigrate every contribution is simply the price we all pay for enjoying what we can of Dan’s blog, but there is no call for you to cover yourself in a glory that is really infamy and tell us that pigs can fly.