Rep. Frank Wolf attacks anti-tax crusader
Rep. Frank Wolf, R-N.Va | Wikimedia Commons
Rep. Frank Wolf, R-N.Va, is one of the longest serving GOP members of Congress, and Tuesday on Capitol Hill he displayed a political mettle you don’t see much of these days: essentially, Wolf called the biggest anti-tax crusader in Washington a crook on the House floor.
That would be Grover Norquist, a man of many unsavory acquaintances, and the head of Americans For Tax Reform.
That group has almost every congressional Republican by the balls, because they’ve persuaded almost all of them (including Reps. Bob Goodlatte, Morgan Griffith, Robert Hurt and Eric Cantor) to sign a pledge that they would oppose “any and all tax increases.”
Wolf is one of six House Republicans who refused to sign the thing. And Tuesday he explained why.
From Raw Story:
[Wolf] cited Norquist’s relationships with disgraced lobbyist Jack Abramoff and terrorist financier Sami Al-Arian, and his ties to Fannie Mae and the Internet gambling industry.
“Simply put, I believe Mr. Norquist is connected with or has profited from a number of unsavory people and groups out of the mainstream,” the congressman said.
“I also believe Mr. Norquist has used the ATR ‘pledge’ as leverage to advance other issues many Americans would find inappropriate, and when taken as a whole, should give people pause.”
Wolf added that the anti-tax pledge — which demanded “ideological purity” — had paralyzed Congress so much that even discussion of tax reform was in gridlock.
Norquist told The Washington Post that Wolf, unlike Americans For Tax Reform, believes tax increases should remain on the table in congressional negotiations over deficit reduction.
That disagreement, Norquist said, is why Wolf “got so pissy and got so stupidly personal about a bunch of stuff that’s either not true, old or discredited from the past.”
Bravo for Wolf. He knows, among other things, that Norquist is a slimeball pal of convict Jack Abramoff, and that Norquist knowinly allowed Abramoff to launder money through ATR.
It’s nice to know there’s at least one Republican from Virginia who refuses to be cowed by political miscreants.
(h/t to DaveH on this post)
October 5, 2011 - 8:00 AM
Norquist sounds like a real family values kind of a guy. Props to Wolf.
Bless you, Congressman Wolf.
So Fannie Mae is listed among the “crooked associates” . Nice of Raw Story to admit that about the organization run by Democrats that caused the entire financial crisis. LOL.
It’s nice to know that at least one Republican male has a pair.
That’s a pretty good photo of Mr. Wolf that you took here, Dan.
You better make sure no one ‘steals’ it to use on their blog or website!!
My guess is that he will soon have an opponent in the next primary.
MMM,
It’s public domain. (I checked).
Ah ok, Dan. I was just wondering because there wasn’t any reference to where or who the picture was obtained from… as there are in most of your other pics obtained from Wikimedia or the AP.
There you go, MMM. I added Wikimedia Commons to the caption. I neglected to do that last night.
(But I didn’t neglect to ensure the picture was public domain before I used it. Unlike the RTP, I mean.)
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Thank goodness you added that attribution Dan. I don’t know anyone who would have slept well without it.
Mike Scott must have been out this past week putting in applications to ensure those checks keep-a-coming in. I think he missed the fiasco concerning the seriousness of using images on a website and not giving proper credit.
Yep Mark, but it’s not a big deal when leftwingers do it.
Now suzie seems to be claiming there’s no difference between using a copyrighted image without permission and no attribution (which is what the teabaggers did) and using an image in the public domain. What a troll.
And don’t MMM and suzie make such a cute troll couple?
Damn, gdad. You sound jealous? I was just looking out for Dan’s best interest concerning the photograph he used on hi… I mean, the RT’s website.
I think Dan has a dirty spot on his boot, gdad. You better lick, lick, lick…
What’s so difficult for some to understand?
If a picture has been released to the public domain, anyone is free to use it.
If a picture has NOT been released to the public domain, one must get permission before using it.
Got it?
BTW, in neither case is it required that the one who uses it actually label it as either copyrighted or as public domain. Where that the case, all of us who use graphical representation as avatars on this blog would be in violation.
In the simplest terms, it is up to the user not to steal someone else’s work or property.
As I posted before, the real stitch (the real irony) is the lack of knowledge of the rightwingers posting here as to what one of their own mavens (Ayn Rand) had to say on the subject. Some of you need to read Chapter 11, in Capitalism: The Unknown Ideal
DaveH, is the RT blog considered ‘public domain’? Let DaveH answer this..
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I’d say DaveH handled that one beautifully.
DaveH, according to the paragraphs you left out before you got SNIPped…
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Sounds as if from reading that, that what you SNIPped only applies to people that register on the site.
#17 DaveH, IMO, you should just leave it alone. Even when MMM hasn’t the slightest idea what he’s talking about or is completely wrong he will continue to argue as if he were right no matter what you say.
Your post was the perfect reply. No just let MMM argue with himself. Good advice for myself, as well.
gdad, if you can read, and Kristen, you would see the part I SNIPped came from the exact same source that DaveH referenced.
“During a free registration process prior to using the site, The Roanoke Times on the Web requires that you supply a unique Member ID, e-mail address, and demographic information. You must agree to the terms of our member agreement, which follow.”
Then, the part DaveH referred to follows after that.
Poor liberals must realize, they can’t just always cut and paste the parts they feel help their argument without reading the whole document.
“gdad, if you can read, and Kristen, you would see the part I SNIPped came from the exact same source that DaveH referenced.”
B-O-R-I-N-G. . .
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“Sounds as if from reading that, that what you SNIPped only applies to people that register on the site.”
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MMM,
Huh?
What is the point that you are trying to make?
What are you trying to say?
Are you assuming that there are folk who are post here who have never registered?
Mark, I profoundly don’t care, so if you’re doing all this work for my benefit, don’t bother.
I agree, Dan. DaveH’s rambling links are usually boring. Except this one…
His point was to show me the RT Online’s terms about usage of photos, etc on this site. My point was the terms he referenced ONLY apply to the people that register first… at least that is how the opening statements on the page that DaveH SNIPped read.
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MMM,
Are you saying that you are not a registered user of the The Roanoke Times online service?
Are you saying that folk who comment here are not registered users of the The Roanoke Times online service?
DaveH, I apologize if i misunderstood. I took your SNIP to mean that you felt the TeaParty thing used Dan’s photo illegally, however, Dan did not use the one of Frank Wolf in the same fashion.
The SNIP you posted seemed to indicate that you felt the RT Online terms of service protected photos posted on the RT Online webites.
The SNIP I posted, which was before your SNIP, clearly states that the users who register on the RT Online websites MUST agree to the terms below… which is where yours comes from.
Hope that helped.