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October 1, 2011 - 12:00 PM
http://www.180movie.com/
Dan,
The link to this piece of trash movie should be deleted.
The movie pammala links above should be avoided at all cost. It is a film done by evangelist Ray Comfort. He starts the movie with a lie. “I’m Jewish” he says. On the surface that seems harmless, except that he isn’t and never has been.
The movie is ultimately about Comfort’s opposition to abortion. He says that he can change your mind about abortion in seconds, but then doesn’t tell you how. Instead he directs you to his website where he asks you for money.
The first third of the movie is not about abortion at all. Instead it’s a poor and inaccurate biography of Adolf Hitler. Comfort tries to distance Hitler from Christianity despite the fact that Hitler was a vocal Roman Catholic who had the support of the Pope at that time. I’m not saying Catholics bear responsibility for Hitler.
After the segment on Hitler,Comfort asks what appear to be less well informed people leading questions that seem to equate women who have abortions to Hitler and also equates the fetuses to the Jews. It is obvious that he moves from one person to another and then edits the conversations. It is impossible to know how the conversations went down.
The last third of the film goes back to what he does best. He asks “Where do you go when you die?” During that part of the conversation he pushes the idea that if you lie once, you should be TORTURED FOR ALL ETERNITY unless you are a Christian as he, Comfort, defines it. I guess his lie at the beginning of the movie doesn’t count.
In the end, Comfort makes an appeal to only vote for anti-choice candidates and tries to pump up interest in his website and his book.
This movie and others like it from people on both extremes of our political spectrum are disgusting. If I was pammala, (thankfully I’m not), I’d be ashamed to have put this link anywhere in public.
#3 IOW, Ron, pammala has sunk to a new low even for her.
Thank you for being the one to click on it and tell us what’s in it. The site looked way too much like a place where you’d pick up a computer virus, worm, or trojan, and although my computer is well protected, I stay away.
Now put your hand on your monitor and pray to be healed. After you write me a check.
Guess pammala didn’t notice that big red FBI warning at the beginning of her movie.
#5 Art,
She ain’t real big on those detail thingies….
Hitler was a vocal Roman Catholic
That, of course, is horsecrap spouted by a so-called leader of a so-called Catholic college. Hitler, as we know, put scores of priests to death and persecuted those who practiced the Catholic faith. Read the bio of Pope John Paul. The only religion Hitler allowed was worship of the Third Reich.
If you’re going to lie, Liberal Ron, go somewhere they don’t know the difference. You’re a disgrace.
It sure does offend the libs when people diss Hitler. It’s interested how the skinhead talks about Jews and Christianity and America with the same vitriol in which the American left does.
pammala,
Ray Comfort? Send him some of your money. I’m sure he could use it.
After all, FBI IS a 3 syllable word.
“He says that he can change your mind about abortion in seconds, but then doesn’t tell you how. Instead he directs you to his website where he asks you for money.”
This is what RWers call “charitable giving”.
I’m glad I’m not Catholic like Hitler, but I don’t blame other Catholics for the holocaust. That just wouldn’t be right.
First, let me say, as I did in my original comment yesterday at 6:43 p.m., that I don’t believe the Catholic church is responsible for Hitler.
Second, while I realize it’s probably a waste of time, but I’m going to share some comments regarding why I described Hitler as a vocal catholic.
Adolf Hitler was born to Catholic parents, baptised in a Catholic church, attended Mass in a Catholic church, attended a Catholic monestary school, considered becoming a Priest and his parents are buried in the cemetary of a Catholic church.
In his seminal book, Mein Kampf, he often spoke of his religious beliefs and described himself as a Christian warrior. Speeches he gave in the 1920s, as he built the National Socialist Party, referred to his deeply held relgious beliefs that he developed as a child attending Catholic churches and Catholic schools.
After assuming power as the Chancellor of Germany, he worked closely with leaders of the Protestant and Catholic churches in Germany. In 1933 Pope Pius XI signed a Concordat assuring the supremacy of the Catholic Church in Germany.
I temper all these remarks by adding that, in my view, Hitler used the Catholic and Protestant Churches in Germany and mislead them in the same way as he mislead other countries in Europe and the world in order to buy time to get his military and political machinery in place. We know what he did subsequently.
The Blessed Pope John Paul II was Polish not German. His clarity on Hitler’s “religious views” was developed after Hitler had used his persuasive skills to establish his power in Germany. What Hitler did was not in keeping with Catholic social or theological teachings. Nothing I’ve said in this comment or the earlier one is a lie. However, I don’t expect all of you to believe that.
that why they kill unborn children, they dont see anything wrong with it.
#7 “If you’re going to lie, right-winger suzie, go somewhere they don’t know the difference. You’re a disgrace.”
There, fixed it.
@8 – “It sure does offend the libs when people diss Hitler”
What the heck are you talking about? That’s not only an offensive comment, it’s completely nutso.
Wonder what the world would be like if that .380 caliber bullet would have went through Hitler’s head sooner than later…
What the heck are you talking about? That’s not only an offensive comment, it’s completely nutso.
You didn’t notice Ron hyperventilating about the video that was mean to Hitler? “Delete this trash movie NOW!!”
#15 Very different.
In his seminal book, Mein Kampf, he often spoke of his religious beliefs and described himself as a Christian warrior.
How the hell else do you think Hitler is going to describe himself, Liberal Ron? Do you think he was going to seduce millions of Germans by painting the true picture of himself as a godless murderous lunatic? Anyone including despots can describe themselves as they wish. So you’re gullible enough to believe Hitler’s words?
Hitler was born Catholic and went to church during his early years. So what? It doesn’t mean they practice the faith when they get older.
One day a Rwer will post some of their favorite bestiality porn, a liberal will complain, and someone on the right will claim that liberals hate animals.
#14 “What the heck are you talking about? That’s not only an offensive comment, it’s completely nutso.”
Standard for suzie, Miriam.
@16 – You wouldn’t be able to follow a train of thought if the train smashed right into you and carried you down the tracks. Seriously. I love how you strut around in here like you’re some force to be contended with and a real biggie girl when the fact of the matter is you’re the ditsy parrot of some man.
Ron was clearly upset by the comparison between Hitler/Nazi movement and abortion.
Grow up Suzie, if you want to discuss things in here.
#19 On a roll, Kristen. The cool weather must have fired you up. Either that or the Cowboys losing.
@18 – However, to be fair, I tend to agree that whether Hitler was raised Catholic or not is immaterial to this discussion. I do not believe he could be a christian of any sort and do what he did…so it matters not in the least what he called himself.
On that point we agree Suzie. Yet, you still missed the entire point of Ron’s post, in my opinion. And then you accuse “libs” of disliking when Hitler is “dissed” – Immature and silly remark.
@18
Sorry Suzie, the Hitler as a Godless lunatic dog just ain’t going to hunt. It’s very clear that he though God was on his side. Unfortunately for your assertions, it’s plainly part of the historical record and no amount denying is going to change that.
Ron was clearly upset by the comparison between Hitler/Nazi movement and abortion.
Abortion is evil. Naziism was evil. Think about it, Miriam. What kind of person would be upset by such a comparison? The fact is, abortion was part and parcel for the Nazis, especially if you were a non-Aryan. They believed women’s bodies belonged to the State. You leftwingers should read how the Nazis treated Jewish women in concentration camp. Forced abortions, forced rapes, you name it. Despotism and abortion go together.
Sorry Suzie, the Hitler as a Godless lunatic dog just ain’t going to hunt. It’s very clear that he though God was on his side. Unfortunately for your assertions, it’s plainly part of the historical record and no amount denying is going to change that.
Hitler thought he was God, Mike Scott. Naziism was his church. If you think he followed the bible and acted Christian in any way, you aren’t smart.
Sheesh. Only in a far-left blog would I have to convince people Hitler was not a good man.
You just can’t fix stupid.
Be it political or religious, triumphalism as a fixed emotional setting, like any other rigid mindset, is a seductive and self-reinforcing quality. The need to triumph is often aligned with an identity that is, in part or in whole, synthetic and false.
Perhaps there is a poster here who has no understanding of that. In which case, things like dimunition by labeling, selective outrage, manufactured issues and apples-to-oranges comparisons will continue as long as such posters have a psychological need to triumph.
Sorry for not including links to lend the gravitas of the Internet to this observation. Instead I relied on the accumulated record of political and religious history, which is comprised of a huge amount of facts that may carry a prejudice against such reactionary triumphalism.
@25 The lack of logic in your argument makes trying to respond nearly impossible. If you can’t see the difference between “forced abortions” and a woman’s choice regarding her own reproductive rights, then I’m not sure even what to say to you. You opine that for the Nazis, women’s bodies belonged to the state, but yet you turn around and support the state dictating to woman what they can do with their bodies. It is impossible to argue with you on this point because your deductions are sideways.
Furthermore, I will tell you exactly what kind of person is upset by “such a comparison”. I am. It is a foul, manipulative, repugnant, inaccurate, and vile comparison. I am amazed that you are NOT upset by it.
Done being baited by your inflamatory junk for the day. Hooray!
#26 “Sheesh. Only in a far-left blog would I have to convince people Hitler was not a good man.”
Which, of course, is not what you’re doing at all. You’re simply out trolling.
Has the Vatican apologized for Hitler yet?
Suzie..
So which is it? He believed himself to be a God, or he was an atheist? The later used to be your claim. I guess you could be claiming that he considered himself to be God, but was also an atheist…but that’s just too…..
Has the Vatican apologized for Hitler yet?
Have the Muslims apologized for Bin Laden yet?
If you can’t see the difference between “forced abortions” and a woman’s choice regarding her own reproductive rights, then I’m not sure even what to say to you.
Babies are killed either way. Just different killers.
Doesn’t Mike Scott know that when you write “a god”, you usually do not capitalize the word ‘god’?
#35 Doesn’t MMM know that the preferred way in U.S. English to punctuate his comment would be to put the comma inside the quote marks around the first use of “god”? In addition, the second use of “god” should have double quote marks if you’re going to use quote marks on it.
But then it really doesn’t matter. Nor does Mike Scott’s capitalization of God.
Hank Williams also has an opinion about the Hitler debate and makes about as much sense as suz does.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/tv-column/post/espn-drops-hank-williams-jr-from-mondays-football-opening-after-singer-compares-obama-to-hitler/2011/10/03/gIQApPx6IL_blog.html?hpid=z3
Nah gdad, I was merely quoting the two words mike blubbered. The comma had no effect.
The second one was in reference to the first use of ‘god’ where he incorrectly said “to be a God”. It was merely to show how any normal person would use it.
Looks like you are a double loser on this one, gdad. I just gave you dinner and breakfast. You don’t have to thank me…
#38 Sorry, MMM, every place I’ve worked as a writer or editor, your punctuation would have been flagged as a violation of preferred style or even wrong and changed. It’s just that simple.
Anyway, my REAL point was that your #35 was just a useless piece of nitpicking.