Sunday’s column: Take a drink of the Tea Party’s Kool-Aid if you dare
Grafic by Dan
God bless the Roanoke Tea Party. They’re a friendly and hospitable bunch, as I found out when I dropped in on their first monthly meeting of 2012 at the Holiday Inn Tanglewood Thursday night.
About 45 white folks were there, ranging in age from 16 to 86 — most of them were middle-aged like yours truly. They introduced me as “a celebrity,” which made me blush.
But sometimes they say and do the strangest things — and they won’t give up. Those qualities make them seem kind of like an Energizer Bunny on LSD.
The biggest news at Thursday’s get-together concerned the upcoming Jan. 24 meeting before the Roanoke County Board of Supervisors. At the request of Supervisor Ed Elswick, the board will take up the subject of the county’s membership in the organization known as ICLEI.
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January 8, 2012 - 6:00 AM
I’m curious to know how many of your posts make references to the racial makeup of any particular group and what purpose does that serve? With all due respect, your opinion attempts to oversimplify an important and serious issue to try to discredit honest and sincere politically concerned citizens who happen to have a different opinion from your own.
ICLEI is a part of an eco-subsidy agenda and encourages governments to pick “winners” and “losers” in the markets. It is an established fact that they pick the wrong “winners” much of the time with Solyndra as a recent example. Another example is the housing bubble catastrophe that was caused by the federal government’s attempts to promote home ownership through subsidies, tax credits, and artificially low interest rates. It’s also one reason why GE can claim “green” tax credits to the tune of 3.25 billion in 2010.
I guess your goal here is to stimulate dialogue and that is a good thing. It has given me the opportunity to encourage people to read about Agenda 21 and ICLEI themselves and make up their own mind rather that reading biased opinions. In truth, these initiatives were designed by radical environmentalists with their own political agenda and with the eco-subsidies to various governments, amount to nothing more than a transfer of wealth which just happens to coincide with radical leftist goals and admittedly calls for a lowering of living standards to accomplish these goals.
Since you like to describe the Tea Party meeting’s ethnic makeup, why don’t we also describe the makeup of the people who designed Agenda 21 and ICLEI? I believe they have been referred to as “watermelons”, “green” on the outside and “red” on the inside.
Saving money and reducing pollution, such an evil dastardly plot.
I guess I should get a seed catalog so I’ll be prepared when I’m forced into the rural village.
After reading Dan’s trip to bizarro land with the TP’s and the explanation of what ICLEI’s goals are, it is hard to believe there are any rational members of this group.
Some of the countries participating in ICLEI – what the TP’s surely must consider a subversive organization:
Australia, Brazil, Canada, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Iceland, India, Ireland, Israel, Italy, Japan, Norway, Poland, Russia, Spain, South Africa [many African nations], Sweden, Switzerland, UK, US [hundreds of towns & cities].
This is not of course the entire list but to view the countries, towns or cities – including those in VA – go to:
http://www.iclei.org/index.php?id=11454
http://www.justplainpolitics.com/showthread.php?36602-OWS-Only-Whites-Need-Apply
Since we now know that just “white folks” attended the Tea Party meeting, you may be interested in examining the ethnic make up of OWS. Please see the link above. Blacks make up 15% of the US population and just 1.6% of OWS. OWS is starting to look a lot like the KKK.
My Dad is a lifelong liberal Democrat (it kills me!). But ever since the early 1970′s, he has had one way to describe the environmental movement: “Son, never forget, green trees have red roots.” No words could be spoken that ring of more truth.
While mostly disagreeing with Tracy, i too wondered about the need for a reference to the ethnic makeup of the group. Yes, I know that one of the criticisms of the TPers is that they don’t come close to representing what they claim. But the few times I’ve driven by Elmwood the Occupy folks there have been mostly or all white as well.
When I spoke with Maryland House Speaker Mike Busch, I asked him where the Tea Party could have possibly gotten the notion that septic systems would be banned in rural areas. The only thing Busch could think of are the Critical Areas Act. That law was adopted decades ago. Basically, it drastically limits new development within 1000 feet of the Chesapeake Bay and its tributaries, and it pretty much bans tree cutting within 100 feet of the bay or its tributaries. It also effects septic systems in the critical area. It doesn’t ban them, but they certainly have to be more elaborate (and less polluting) if they’re within the critical area. Everything that existed prior to the adoption of the act was grandfather in, however.
The Critical Area Act was adopted because nitrogen and phosphorous runoff from farms (which reach all the way to Binghamton New York and west to the Botetourt County), and other runoff from roads, and pollution from overtaxed municipal sewer system, were having a very negative affect on the Chesapeake Bay.
The nitrogen and phosphorous, in particular, fueled the grown of algae blooms, which used up all the oxygen in the water, which killed fish and other marine life. Combined with overfishing, this severely affected marine life in the bay. There are virtually no wild oysters left in the Maryland portion of the bay (they used to be 5 feet deep, off the bottom, or soft-shelled clams, or grass shrimp. The crab harvest peaked in 1992 at 59 million pounds. In 2007, it was 21 million pounds.
It’s important to note that the Critical Area Law was adopted in 1984. The UN adopted Agenda 21 in Brazil in 1992. So if anything, the limits on development affecting the Chesapeake Bay was way, way, way ahead of Agenda 21.
And here is what Mike Busch said about Chip Tarbutton’s specious claim that Maryalnd was stopping maintenance on secondary roads in rural areas: “We’ll put our road system in Maryland up against Virginia’s any time. They may have us confused with West Virginia.”
#7 They do sound like one confused bunch. Perhaps Chip will show up and explain where these notions came from?
#5 So let’s see, is terps now also joined the nutcases who allege that environmentalists are all commies? Just damn, terps.
BTW, I stopped by Elmwood the other day to do my civic duty and pick up all that trash you said Occupiers were leaving in Elmowood — and I couldn’t find any. Did you get there first?
The results of my Facebook question are starting to trickle in.
“Who is the most racist person on Dan’s blog?
With only seven people reporting, Dan actually leads with 4 votes. Two admitted not having read the blog until I asked the question, then they read the first thread they saw, probablly this one.. Two other said Sandi. Once said Kristen.
Interesting. So far all liberals, who claim to be tolerant, have been voted as the most racist.
I’ll keep you posted.
We’ll believe there’s a poll when you put the link to it up here on the blog.
“KKK” and “red”, come on terps. Are there any rational thoughts floating around behind those hollow, soul-less eyes.
11.We’ll believe there’s a poll when you put the link to it up here on the blog.
Comment by Dan Casey — January 8, 2012 @ 11:39 am
But will we actually care?
terps is starting to look a lot like he needs professional help.
GDAD
I had to run an errand downtown today and I drove by OWS. Exactly 8 “white guys” and one “white” woman. It could have been a Klan rally. I almost went home to get them some white sheets for full effect.
Boy, they sure were a sickly looking group. We all ought to pitch in for a few memberships to the Y for these folks and put them on a treadmill.
The paranoia reeks from this group. Like the John Birchers and the McCarthyites, they see a communist behind every tree. They fail to see that communism has already fallen from its own weight, that the countries we feared as the red menace have steadily and increasingly dropped that system and have become much more like the market based countries of the world. The Soviet Union, China, Cuba have all moved increasingly toward a more modern economy and opened up to the world. The successful models of the future will be countries which combine free markets and entrepreneurial spirit with reasonable regulations and oversight to protect people from the excesses of corporatism and a plutochratic viewpoint. The all or nothing philosophies of capitalism are not suitable for a modern economy because the unchecked greed tends to create a privileged ruling class based on who’s got the cash. Continuing down a road which creates wider and wider disparities in income will ultimately lead to revolutions, clashes and violence. And efforts by local governments to manage growth and development in a responsible way that benefits the entire community are not only sensible but necessary for survival of future generations. It’s the nimbys and the I’ve got mine to hell with the rest of you groups that will destroy this nation.
Pole as in Poland Dan..
Crockow to be globally correct.
As a white woman making presentations to local governments (where ICLEI is not a problem YET – and I intend to keep it that way), the problem with ICLEI is that it institutes government by consensus.
ICLEI and other planning organizations, organize meetings of self-appointed “stakeholders” – some cities in South Florida have gone so far as to advertise for “environmentally-friendly” people to be on their “green task forces.”
The outcome of a meeting is pre-determined – say, ban cars from downtown Roanoke. The stakeholders are assembled: Old Hippies Against Hummers, The Absolutely Pure Air Coalition, the 1000 Friends of Bicycles. The tiny public notice ad is published in The Roanoke Times. On the day of the meeting, I jump in my Hummer and drive to City Hall, where I find a room full of people that want the car ban. My objections are dismissed and marginalized (perhaps never recorded) as a trained facilitator guides the group to the pre-determined outcome or a consensus. The CONSENSUS is to ban cars. This is reported to the City Council and an ordinance is passed.
THIS VIOLATES ARTICLE IV, SECTION 4 of the U.S. Constitution that requires a representative form of government, because the decision was not made by the elected officials.
Some have mistakenly said that dues paid to ICLEI with taxpayer money goes to the United Nations – this is not true – ICLEI uses the dues to further its mischief. ICLEI operates directly under UNEP (United Nations Environmental Programme and therefore violates Article I, Section 10.
ICLEI targets Mayors. At the Cool Mayor’s Convention in 2007, ICLEI’s Cool Mayors signed a document that they would ban three products or activities in their city each year in the name of reducing CO2.
You can make all the fun you want (we white people don’t care), but U.N. Agenda 21 is real and people are losing their private property and freedom every day because of it.
Dan Casey- the governor of Maryland implemented Smart Growth (no rural living for you!) in December – Executive Order.
terp – your Dad was right.
#13 – no, we won’t.
The crazy is getting a little thick in here.
I wonder if TP’s have cloth bags for their groceries or is that a communist plot too?
ICLEI will have to pry my crappy plastic bags from my cold dead hands.
Yes Terps
Your Dad was right, for being a lifelong liberal Democrat. Too bad some of that wisdom didn’t rub off on his son.
#15 Still no evidence of all the stuff you reported them doing in earlier posts, terps? Littering, going to the bathroom in public, scaring away families?
I’ll take that as confirmation you were lying.
We’ll believe there’s a poll when you put the link to it up here on the blog.
I don’t think so, but nice try. For such an influential group these folks are pretty private.
GDAD
You will be proud to know that I did not witness any of the OWS protestors defacating on a police car. They are really cleaning up their act. I was looking for third graders writing songs about hating the 1%, but I couldn’t find any. I just saw 9 lost, “white” souls who would be a whole lot better off if they were trying to work.
“The crazy is getting a little thick in here.”
These people walk freely among us.
In case you missed it, click on terps link in #4, scroll down to the comments and check out “The Anatomy of the Modern Republican Brain.”
#25 TRANSLATION: suzie — I’m lying about this.
#25 PS: Really private people don’t do Facebook.
#26 And why would I be proud of you for that? Oh, because you didn’t make any more lies about the folks down there? Good job, terps!!!!
#28 Oh man, that was so kind of terps to provide that for us. Great stuff!!
Examples of the upside-down, ass-backwards screwed-up world of the libs:
Bad: Tim Tebow, Good Christian celebate man.
Good: Michael Jordan- His philandering and sexcapades are legendary.
Bad: Joe Paterno. 50 years of producing great men in the classroom and on the football field. His crime? Someone who once worked for him, allegedly molested a boy, and Joe didn’t put a Superman cape on put a stop to everything; he relied on his superiors to do their jobs.
Good: Michael Jackson who openly molested boys.
Bad: Ben Roethlisberger who was accused of rape by a credible victim
Good: Bill Clinton who was accused of rape by a credible victim
Bad: Clarence Thomas who goes to mass every single day
Good: Barney Frank who hosted a gay brothel in his home, lied about Fannie Mae and brought us the financial crisis.
Bad: Herman Cain who grew up poor and achieved two impressive college degrees before embarking on a highlly successful business career.
Good: Barack 0bama who never worked a day in his life, was a coke addict, and has concealed his college records.
Bad: Condi Rice who grew up in the poor south, and was a high achiever in all areas before becoming SOS
Good: Hillary Clinton, A crooked lying bitchy shrew who used her office for ill-gotten profit and lies whenver she opens her mouth.
Bad: George W. Bush who saved us from terror attack, won a war, and brought the economy to new heights
Good: Barack 0bama who has endangered the U.S. has us mired in a war morass, and has destroyed much of the economy.
Bad: Tea Party; hard working, non-violent, non-destructive tax-paying contributing members of society
Good; lazy, violent, destructive maggot-infested, non-contributing, entitlement-oriented dirtbags of society.
#25 PS: Really private people don’t do Facebook.
Yep, we do. We just share information with a select few; not a bunch of potential stalkers in the general public
#33 Gosh, I wonder how suzie knows Tebow is celibate (note the spelling troll, snicker, snicker)? Is there a test for that?
“Yep, we do. We just share information with a select few; not a bunch of potential stalkers in the general public.”
Keep on believing that, sweetheart. Zuckerburg’s not exactly known for his concern about Facebook users’ privacy. Yes, I know you can make all your settings “private”, but Facebook can go in and change all that on a whim, and has done so in the past.
Also concerning Facebook privacy: once you interact with other users, you have to trust that their settings are not allowing third parties access to your info. Once you’re on the grid, you’re on the grid.
“#25 TRANSLATION: suzie — I’m lying about this”
The amount of time and energy spent responding to this twit would power a small New Hampshire town. Ignore, people.
How did this paranoid fear of Agenda 21 begin? Why do TP’s proselytize that the United Nations’ “Agenda 21” is plot for “centralized control over all of human life on Planet Earth.”
The answer is – [hint: they didn't come up with this fear all by themselves] – Glenn Beck on Agenda21:
“That claim comes from Glenn Beck, the extreme right-wing talk show host recently fired from the conservative Fox News Channel because his views had become an embarrassment even for them. Beck issued this warning on June 15. 2011:
“Some people now have begun questioning and standing up to what, on the surface, seems like a harmless initiative just to save the environment. But it is not. Be awake. Spread the word. Watch your local community. The answer will be found with the individual. The answers and the solutions will be found in the local communities. But once they put their fangs into our communities, they’ll suck all the blood out of it, and we will not be able to survive. Watch out.”
http://www.blueridgemuse.com/node/10498
Hillary,
At their meeting last week, the Tea Partiers said they were onto Agenda 21 as early as February of last year.
As to how they found out about it, Chip Tarbutton, the former Roanoke Tea Party president, told me he “read something about it on the internet, then I did some research.”
Dan – “somewhere on the internet” – or “it just came to me” when spoken by a TP member = Limbaugh, Beck, Fox etc…
I don’t think they ever have a rational/original thought… at least none that I have had “conversations” with. I have always likened this exchange as something akin to exchanging recipes with Jeffrey Dahmer…ewww.
From the quick research I have been able to do, it seems Ron Paul was already speaking on Agenda21 in the middle/late ’90′s as a grand conspiracy…and of course lots of bloggers of the same ilk began pushing the story all over the internet – interestingly different RW blogs framed the stories using the exact same wording…It then became an orphan child for the Tea Party to adopt as a cause, and through Tea Party interconnectivity they began to put it on their various agendas beginning sometime in 2010. Roanoke came to the crazy party later than many…