Cuccinelli’s phony UVa ‘fraud’ probe bites the dust
Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli, with a yeast-infused, carbon dioxide-producing dough ball. | From the Attorney General's web site.
Everybody with half a brain understood from the beginning that the Virginia Attorney General’s probe of climate research at the University of Virginia (some of which dated back more than a decade) was little more than an anti-science crusade such as the one the Catholic Church waged against Galileo centuries ago.
Galileo’s heretical “crime” was his defense of heliocentrism, which butted heads with the church orthodoxy that God made the Sun rotate around Earth (which btw was the center of the universe). So they locked Galileo in his house for the rest of his life. He’d been dead hundreds of years before the church grudgingly acknowledged he had it right.
Fortunately, it didn’t take the Virginia Supreme Court that long to reject Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli’s politically motivated attack on former UVa scientist Michael Mann (who’s now at Penn State). The court ruled that Cuccinelli couldn’t have Mann’s university records, because UVa is “an agency” and not “a person.”
The court ruled that the law the AG requested the records under the Virginia Fraud Against Taxpayer Act, which necessitates demands for records be made to “a person.” How ironic, in an age when the highest court in the land — and Republican presidential candidates — declare that, of course, corporations are people. Apparently, agencies still are not.
Cuccinelli’s office issued a sour grapes-tinged statement Friday, splitting hairs with the court’s opinion while resentfully acknowledging it would seek dismissal of the case. It was a big setback for science deniers, to whom the attorney general has linked his political future.
Bravo for UVa, the ACLU, the Union of Concerned Scientists and the scores of university professors who waged battle against Cuccinelli’s politically motivated overreaching. He has hitched his star to anti-science agitprop and today, at least, that appears to be dimming.
But watch out. It will be easy, in 2013, to amend the Virginia Fraud Against Taxpayers Act so that Civil Investigative Demands can be issued to state agencies. I’ll lay money right now the AG will agitate for that, under the guise of “good government.”
That will give Cuccinelli and the rest of “bad science” crowd another day to fight this fight. What a pity the great Commonwealth of Virginia will serve, once again, as Cuccinelli’s personal ideological battleground.
March 2, 2012 - 5:13 PM
Naturally the good news came from outside of Virginia. “Oh how the mighty have fallen!”
Evidently Cuccinelli uses the AG’s office to launch his own crusades – I wonder who will be the next target of his political zealotry. It is an indication of how weak McDonnell is as he does not rein-in this ideologue, who surely looks like a loser.
#2 Hillary, the AG does not work for the Gov. But it really is sad that this guy wasted our money on a political witch hunt. He should be required to pay us restitution. It is ashame what the global warming skeptics will do to try to discredit hard facts.
The court decided that we couldn’t have the information, not that the information was correct. UVA’s willingness to spend the money to go all the way to the Supreme Court to hide the “science” speaks volumes about their lack of faith in science.
I guess we just need to have blind faith in UVA because we won’t see the scientific evidence. And Dan Casey is fine with that because his witch hunt against Cuccinelli is all that matters to him.
Scott – he works for him in the sense he is the Governor’s legal counsel and I believe [I'll check the Code] he reports to the Governor. Nevertheless, you’re right – going after a professor at UVA – again taxpayer’s money as they hired an outside attorney to defend them against the AG – is despicable behavior and was correctly called a “witch hunt”.
Henry, buddy, I hope you are OK. Because from your recent messages, you seem to be losing your razor-sharp edge.
The fact is, UVa must release all of Mann’s emails. This was decided last May. The route was the Virginia Freedom of Information Act. The requester was Del. Bob Marshall, Ken Cuccinelli’s old pal. Taliban Bob will get the emails they are so desperately seeking. And they’ll be able to slice and dice and distort them as they wish, provided, of course, that there is anything worth distorting (but they’re pros at that).
The other fact that remains is that the Va. Attorney General, the top lawyer is the state, who seems too busy to go after real fraud (like Bobby Thompson, who stole $2 million from Virginians) was so clueless as to the law that in his witch-hunt zeal he failed to note that the law he was using to get the records, oops, DID NOT APPLY. That’s got to be pretty embarrassing. Heck, it raises questions as to his competence.
You see, FOIA is all about fishing expeditions VFAT is not. The Cooch didn’t cotton to the difference.
So they will get the emails. I doubt there’s anything there. If I’m right KC won’t dare to attempt to do anything with them, because his motives are so transparently obvious, at this point. He’ll leave that for others.
Cooch does not work FOR the governor or report to him. He’s independently elected. Fyi, McDonnell has endorsed Bill Bolling for the GOP nomination for governor. But unless they have a primary, and a lot of Dems vote in it for Bolling, the Cooch will probably win that nomination.
#4 Wow, Henry, you truly haven’t a clue as to what was going on here. As Dan said, you seem to be losing whatever edge you had. Maybe you’ve been back on Free Republic?
Cuccinelli is a zealous fraud. As theoretically the state’s top law enforcement officer, he is using his office to advance a radical agenda.
That is dangerous for us all because he is supposed to be impartial.
“The fact is, UVa must release all of Mann’s emails.”
Sure they are, Dan. That’s why they paid all that money to prevent the emails from being released. Because they were going to release them. If you are going to release them for free, it’s best to spend thousands of taxpayers dollars to prevent them from being released.
Didn’t think about that one for very long, did you?
Impartial,Dave ??? Ginsberg, Keagan and the ilk are supposed to be impartial also….talk about dangerous !
The swooshing sound you hear is all the Best & Brightest leaving Virginia.
Thanks Cooch & McD.
Ken Cuccinelli has been the best AG Virginia has ever had. Why wouldn’t he go after a fraud wasting taxpayer money on a hoax?
Government Motors just halted production of the Volt. The public does not buy the global warming hysteria. Green trees have red roots.
Terps,
Right: GM halted production of the Volt.
Wrong: The public does not buy the global warming hysteria.
In fact, the public increasingly “buys” global warming. What they’re not buying is overpriced hybrids. The Volt is priced way, way too high.
There are air-powered cars under development now that will be much cheaper and which could effectively serve a huge proportion of the driving public. If you don’t believe me, click on the link above, check them out on You Tube.
The court ruling dealt with a legal question.
It ruled that the college was an agency not a person, thereby
invalidating the suit.
It did NOT rule on the validity of the science involved with
so-called global warming.
One less car for the OWS crowd to “defacate” on. Yawn.
“In fact, the public increasingly “buys” global warming.” Dan…..link please?
terps: Not because of you global warming deniers… put facts in context and make your posts more credible.
General Motors Co. will idle production of its Chevrolet Volt battery-powered car for five weeks beginning this month because of slow sales amid an effort to boost the vehicle’s consumer appeal, the company said Friday – between March 19 and April 23, a spokesman said.
Mark Reuss, GM’s North American chief, said in an interview the auto maker remains committed to the Volt and is taking a number of steps to improve lagging sales.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203986604577257681918603106.html
Phil Chitwood,
“The survey by the University of Michigan and Muhlenberg College says 62 percent of those asked last December think the Earth is getting warmer. That’s up from 55 percent in the spring of that year and 58 percent in December 2010. It’s the highest proportion in two years.”
http://www.boston.com/news/science/articles/2012/02/28/poll_us_belief_in_warming_rises_with_thermometer/
So we’re heading for the threshold of two-thirds. Fyi, that constitutes an increasing majority.
While we’re (sort of) on the subject, where are these vast underground reservoirs of ‘abiogenic oil’ that the more imaginative among the non-reality-based community insist exist?
Phil Chitwood – and here
http://www.fordschool.umich.edu/news/?news_id=733
and would you believe NASA -[tree huggers all?}
http://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/
Dan
I read your air car article. What are you smoking?
It can’t go over 100 mi without a 2 hr recharge and it pollutes if you go over 35 mph. Given your lead foot, you alone would burn a hole in the ozone with the “air car”.
Terps, wrong again. There are 2 versions of the air car. Watch the video I linked to.
One version can go 100-125 miles on a tankful of air. It could be refueled at a filling station (that had the right setup) for $2 in 3 minutes. It’s purchase comes with a home compressor that could fill the air tanks in 3-4 hours.
The other version is a hybrid with an on-board gasoline-powered air compressor. Its range is 600 miles.
The estimated price of these marvels ranges form $8,000 to $25,000. It seems like their chief drawback is they’re loud.
Done. I am over PP and She Who Shall not be Named. They are celestial objects akin to black holes; so dense that not even reason can escape their tiny little brains. Keep screaming, but know that you are irrelevant and your comments are ignored. buh-bye!
Dan
Maybe your noisy air car will make me so deaf that I don’t have to listen to all this global warming BS anymore.
If all they need is a lot of air to run those cars…plenty of it on this blog!
I’ve also heard there are cars running off of manure.. look no further GM & Ford!
Oliver, line of the day my friend! “…the more imaginative among the non-reality-based community…”
Saintbridge, it is hard here when the trolls are determined to share their hate and ignorance, but please don’t desert the rest of us. They win when good people leave. That is their point.
Sorry SatanBridge that our view are hitting a nerve. Let’s see how the fearless wonder leader superman god has done:
1. Acts of hostility toward people of Biblical faith:
April 2008 – Obama speaks disrespectfully of Christians, saying they “cling to guns or religion” and have an “antipathy to people who aren’t like them”
February 2009 – Obama announces plans to revoke conscience protection for health workers who refuse to participate in medical activities that go against their beliefs, and fully implements the plan in February 2011.
April 2009 – When speaking at Georgetown University, Obama orders that a monogram symbolizing Jesus’ name be covered when he is making his speech.
May 2009 – Obama declines to host services for the National Prayer Day (a day established by federal law) at the White House.
April 2009 – In a deliberate act of disrespect, Obama nominated three pro-abortion ambassadors to the Vatican; of course, the pro-life Vatican rejected all three.
October 19, 2010 – Obama begins deliberately omitting the phrase about “the Creator” when quoting the Declaration of Independence – an omission he has made on no less than seven occasions.
November 2010 – Obama misquotes the National Motto, saying it is “E pluribus unum” rather than “In God We Trust” as established by federal law.
January 2011 – After a federal law was passed to transfer a WWI Memorial in the Mojave Desert to private ownership, the U. S. Supreme Court ruled that the cross in the memorial could continue to stand, but the Obama administration refused to allow the land to be transferred as required by law, and refused to allow the cross to be re-erected as ordered by the Court.
February 2011 – Although he filled posts in the State Department, for more than two years Obama did not fill the post of religious freedom ambassador, an official that works against religious persecution across the world; he filled it only after heavy pressure from the public and from Congress.
April 2011 – For the first time in American history, Obama urges passage of a non-discrimination law that does not contain hiring protections for religious groups, forcing religious organizations to hire according to federal mandates without regard to the dictates of their own faith, thus eliminating conscience protection in hiring.
August 2011 – The Obama administration releases its new health care rules that override religious conscience protections for medical workers in the areas of abortion and contraception.
November 2011 – Obama opposes inclusion of President Franklin Roosevelt’s famous D-Day Prayer in the WWII Memorial.
November 2011 – Unlike previous presidents, Obama studiously avoids any religious references in his Thanksgiving message.
December 2011 – The Obama administration denigrates other countries’ religious beliefs as an obstacle to radical homosexual rights.
January 2012 – The Obama administration argues that the First Amendment provides no protection for churches and synagogues in hiring their pastors and rabbis.
February 2012 – The Obama administration forgives student loans in exchange for public service, but announces it will no longer forgive student loans if the public service is related to religion.
Acts of preferentialism for Islam:
May 2009 – While Obama does not host any National Day of Prayer event at the White House, he does host White House Iftar dinners in honor of Ramadan.
April 2010 – Christian leader Franklin Graham is disinvited from the Pentagon’s National Day of Prayer Event because of complaints from the Muslim community.
April 2010 – The Obama administration requires rewriting of government documents and a change in administration vocabulary to remove terms that are deemed offensive to Muslims, including jihad, jihadists, terrorists, radical Islamic, etc.
August 2010 – Obama speaks with great praise of Islam and condescendingly of Christianity.
August 2010 – Obama went to great lengths to speak out on multiple occasions on behalf of building an Islamic mosque at Ground Zero, while at the same time he was silent about a Christian church being denied permission to rebuild at that location.
2010 – While every White House traditionally issues hundreds of official proclamations and statements on numerous occasions, this White House avoids traditional Biblical holidays and events but regularly recognizes major Muslim holidays, as evidenced by its 2010 statements on Ramadan, Eid-ul-Fitr, Hajj, and Eid-ul-Adha.
October 2011 – Obama’s Muslim advisers block Middle Eastern Christians’ access to the White House.
February 2012 – The Obama administration makes effulgent apologies for Korans being burned by the U. S. military, but when Bibles were burned by the military, numerous reasons were offered why it was the right thing to do.
And here is every source for Hilary
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And your contribution to the cause cannot be ignored Pistol.
Pistol Pete, were you this aghast when President Bush spoke of respect for Muslims and the Koran, or when the Founding Fathers acknowledged Islam as a major world religion? Of course you weren’t, and you know it.
11th Commandment: Thou Shalt Not Cut-and-Paste Rightwing Chain-Mail Propaganda.
Perhaps we need need a blog rule about how many inches of space you’re allowed to occupy with cut and pasted garbage that no one is ever, ever going to look at.
I do get a giggle seeing Chuck Norris as as “source”. Who cares if those bibles were burnt? Whoever sent them probably needs a visit from DHS to explain to them about inciting violence against our troops.
Dan and Hillary,
One of the most contentious issues is the idea that humans’ actions are influencing the climate. The poll plays into the tired, skeptics’ joke…..”Yeah, I believe in global warming….and global cooling….” This poll settles a question no one was really asking.
Plus, most of the 62% believe in global warming for, what both sides admit, are all the wrong reasons.
Hardly a poll the warmists should be proud of.
Hey Oliver, I acknowledge Islam as a major world religion.
But I also don’t fly planes into buildings, put bombs along the roadside, or call for death to Israel and Americans in the name of who I worship
Well gee Pistol, that puts you in the same company as 1.5 billion Muslims who also didn’t “fly planes into buildings, put bombs along the roadside, or call for death to Israel and Americans in the name of who” they worship. Lookee there, already building bridges, looking for common ground, go you!
Definitely no global warming or climate change going on. Witness last year’s tornado season. Witness the fact that this year’s tornado activity is already as violent and has started two months earlier. Tell it to the people of Tuscaloosa, Ala. Tell it to the two towns in Indiana that disappeared from the map yesterday. Tell it to the 30+ people who died yesterday. Tell it to Pulaski which had never suffered anything like last year’s tornado. Tell it to the people who are documenting the melting of the polar ice caps and the rapid receding of the glaciers.
Keep your heads buried in the sand and listen to the coal mime owners and the oil companies, and the chemical polluters like the Koch Bros..
Definitely no global warming or climate change going on. Witness last year’s tornado season. Witness the fact that this year’s tornado activity is already as violent and has started two months earlier. Tell it to the people of Tuscaloosa, Ala. Tell it to the two towns in Indiana that disappeared from the map yesterday. Tell it to the 30+ people who died yesterday. Tell it to Pulaski which had never suffered anything like last year’s tornado. Tell it to the people who are documenting the melting of the polar ice caps and the rapid receding of the glaciers.
Keep your heads buried in the sand and listen to the coal mime owners and the oil companies, and the chemical polluters like the Koch Bros..
Oh wow. More snapshot anecdotal evidence. How about the winter of 2007, genius? The coldest on record in many parts of the world. Whoops. Proof of global cooling.
Phil, you really need to learn the difference between “contention” and “anti-Science”.
http://scienceblogs.com/deltoid/2009/09/john_mashey_recommends_climate.php
“Anti-science (or agnotology), seeks to cover-up or obscure science considered inconvenient, or at least create doubt in the minds of public and decision-makers. It seeks to replace knowledge with ignorance, and has no resemblance to normal arguments within science, by scientists.”
What other well educated and trained professionals do your doubt and question?
I’m tellin’ you all, just ignore them. You know how the story is going to go. Let them chase their own tail.
Just heard the Cooch has formed a superpac for his run at the Governor’s
Mansion. Its called I.D.I.O.T. Pac.
Sandi….you reek of red herrings.
Shameful, just shameful…
DEATH THREATS, INTIMIDATION AND ABUSE
Guardian/ Saturday 3 March 2012 06.32 EST
The scientist who has borne the full brunt of attacks by climate change deniers, including death threats and accusations of misappropriating funds, is set to hit back.
Michael E. Mann, creator of the “hockey stick” graph that illustrates recent rapid rises in global temperatures, is to publish a book next month detailing the “disingenuous and cynical” methods used by those who have tried to disprove his findings. “The Hockey Stick and the Climate Wars” is a startling depiction of a scientist persecuted for trying to tell the truth.
Mann has been attacked by Ken Cuccinelli, the Republican attorney general of Virginia who has campaigned to have the scientist stripped of academic credentials. Several committees of inquiry have investigated Mann’s work. All have exonerated him.
Thousands of emails have been sent to Mann, many deeply unpleasant. “You and your colleagues… ought to be shot, quartered and fed to the pigs along with your whole damn families,” said one. “I was hopin [sic] I would see the news and you commited [sic] suicide,” ran another.
“On one occasion, I had to call the FBI after I was sent an envelope with a powder in it,” Mann adds. “It turned out to be cornmeal but again the aim was intimidation. I ended up with police security tape all over my office doors and windows. That is the life of a climate scientist today in the US.”
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2012/mar/03/michael-mann-climate-change-deniers
#35 Phil Chitwood…oh yea, those “warmists” at NASA.
No science, no fact, no research will convince you. Best get your children or grandchildren to the zoo to see the Polar bears. as they will not be around for long…never mind, you don’t believe in climate change so those darn Polar bears must be faking extinction….
#31 Pistol Pete posted, “And here is every source for Hilary”
ummm, PP, unless you have read EVERY one of those sources, why are you bothering to cut and paste the entire “endnotes” section on this thread? You see the purpose is to post what you have educated yourself on – read the sources, then venture an opinion based on your readings…source your main premise, otherwise it looks, ummm, just ridiculous.
When I make a post that is longer than usual, I write it myself. PP cuts and pastes like Martha Stewart on meth. PP also sources the policy thinker Chuck Norris to support his claims.
Pistol Pete, the things that Jewish carpenters build are their own work, and much sturdier than paste.
Hillary: “….the Polar bears. as they will not be around for long…never mind, you don’t believe in climate change so those darn Polar bears must be faking extinction….” The fact that you still refer to the polar bear scam means you still aren’t up to speed Hillary. You surely look at the keyboard and wonder why the keys are out of order. Polar bears??? When one traces the source of this BS, it turns into one of the most embarrassing episodes for the warmists. Way to go, Hillary!!!
To add to Phil Chitwood’s point:
In fact, Hillary, extinction itself is a myth. No species on Earth has ever gone extinct. Extinction is one giant scam of science. Read your King James Bible for the truth! And the sun revolves around the Earth, too!
Sooo, Dan claims that he does not have time to research the polar bear debate, but he has aquired a whole barrel of red herrings. LOL
Phil Chitwood just calls everything a red herring and pretends he’s won the argument. That’s convenient.
Yes gdad, bringing up that species have gone extinct before is a red herring. It is also nonsense….kinda like…..cowardly hiding behind four letters that one can’t pronounce. C’mon, gd, quit being a zombie…tell us who you are.