Show off your holiday lights and you could win an iPad! Enter your photo by December 13. Winner will be selected by popular vote.
Shot by Dan\
“He looked about as inconspicuous as a tarantula on a slice of angel food. “
View our commenting policy and standards | Commenting FAQ | Report a problem
Imagine that, a big donor to Romney lies and sets up a dummy corporation in an effort to hide his identity:
Must have learned from the Koch brothers.
I guess we won’t die if coal isn’t king forever after all…
Well, it is clear that Dan hates America. I don’t know why the RT keeps him on board; he is an embarrassment to the entire Valley. Example No. 1: He posts a picture of what looks like a Cherry Pie, although I guess it could — could — be a Rhubarb Pie.
We all know that a true patriot, a true American would use a picture of an Apple Pie. Dan, you are a Communist, plain and simple!
(How did I do w/ my Witless Suzie-esque post from the fringe?)
Tax the rich so I can campaign!!
Morgan Griffith’s Twitter Town Hall is great comedy.
#5 Wonder why the RNC never complained when the Shrub did EXACTLY the same thing. I’m sure you can explain that to us, PP. We’ll wait to hear from you.
I prefer cherry pie over apple any day. Does that make me un-American?
I see liberal Gallup had 0bama up 7 yesterday. This is a 13 point shift in the last week or so. I am scratching my head trying to come up with the seismic political event or Romney gaffe that could have precipitated such dramatic fall. Nope, can’t come up with any.
My guess is the Gallup folks got a rather unpleasant call from an 0bama aide. Regardless, a 13-pt shift in a week for no reason proves this poll is nothing but meaningless garbage.
You libs would love nothing more than to have the Koch Bros` financing the left…Heck…you`ve got a Billionaire and avowed atheist, George Soros, on your side…seems to me that you would be nice and comfy with a scenario of American destruction and Christian bashing !
Whew you had me going for a minute. Thought Suzie had highjacked your screen name!!
For the record, that’s a strawberry pie. It would have been strawberry-rhubarb if the store had had an rhubarb.
Oh but you were so happy to tout the Gallup when it was in your favor the other week Suzie. Yes, we all see how this works. Pitiful.
Pistol Pete, this might be hard for you to grasp, but the President still has to be the President when he campaigns for re-election. Reagan did, Clinton did, and Bush did too. That is the nature of the beast. They are supposed to reimburse for some of the true “campaign” expenses but who are you to draw that line?
Jeff Doto, the difference that appears lost on you, is that the Koch Brothers and other right wing folks who buy candidates do so IN their business interests, Soros’ money fights his own business empire in many many ways. Sorry you cannot see the truth for the lies.
I feel so sorry for poor old Rupert. Not!!
Strawberry Rhubarb pie is my dad’s favorite. I saw some up here at the c’ville market yesterday, as well as some early local strawberries that weren’t looking too good.
I think Obama will dump Joking Joe
and get HRC onboard for VP.
Sorry the link didn’t work right. The story is about Rupert Murdock claiming that he and his son were the victims of a coverup and had no knowledge of the activities of their reporters. Right.
#10 Gosh, Jeff, buddy, you might read more carefully. I was complaining about the way Repub donors always try to hide it, not the fact that they donated. Although I think the whole system — Dems included — would benefit from less money, as well.
Care to try again and this time actually address what I was posting about, Doto?
I am so far beyond bitter and annoyed that I’m going to miss the captain of the Wizard at my Kroger on Saturday. I have to pick my son up at school, and I’m considering telling him he has to wait till SUNDAY.
I am sure that your astute political comment about Obama dumping Biden is totally accurate and based on sound factual information. Like the fact, for example, that the Obama campaign has already distributed hundreds of thousand of bumper stickers that say Obama/Biden 2012. Or the fact that Biden was the first one dispatched to Ohio and Pennsylvaniafor speeches and campaign events to appeal to labor groups and working folks in those areas. Or the fact that just today, Biden is the point man for destroying
Romney’s ridiculous posturing on foreign policy. Or the fact that every email that comes out from Obama election headquarters says Obama/Biden 2012. Maybe you better stick to worrying about which wingnut Romney chooses for his running mate to shore up his support from the social conservatives.
Greensboro Update: Andrew Young was in love with former 2004 Democrat VP candidate John Edwards. Young referred to Elizabeth Edwards as Ursala(Little Mermaid I assume)
The strawberry/rhubarb pie at Mrs. Rowe’s in Staunton is outstanding. As are the other baked goods there. But if you’re from that area I’m sure you know that.
There was a good article in the paper this morning about the value of a Liberal Arts education. Wow two good articles in the Roanoke Times, in the same week??? My undergraduate degree is in History. I believe in the merits of a Liberal Arts education. I don’t believe one goes to college to get a job. If that is the goal go to trade school. A college education should be to become educated. I do have a Master Degree which is career specific. There is nothing in the world wrong with trade schools as matter of fact we need more brick masons, mechanics, carpenters etc, which is simply not what a college education is supposed to do, in my opinion.
Bolstered by Grover Norquist of “Americans for Tax Reform”, and funded by the likes of Exxon Mobil and the Koch Brothers’ energy and chemical conglomerate, the American Legislative Exchange Council [ALEC] has embarked on a campaign to get states to dump [renewable energy] standards. ALEC has already tried to prevent passage of targets for renewable energy on the federal level.
Careful what you wish for Rob, that would mean at least a 48 state sweep.
Re: Comment by Dan Casey — April 26, 2012 @ 12:19 pm
It would have been strawberry-rhubarb if the store had had an rhubarb.
Had I known, you could have picked some rhubarb out my yard. I made a strawberry-rhubarb pie just the other day. Strawberry-rhubarb is second only to a very-very sour lemon-chess pie, IMHO.
BTW, asian pear, blueberry & rhubarb is also a good pie.
BTW2, rhubarb is an easy to grow perennial. Go for it.
Dan shoulda put a glass of milk next to that pie.
dave, thanks for the tip. I haven’t spent any time in Staunton, but will look it up next time my old man comes to visit. : )
Oh my god, an avowed ATHEIST!!!!
What’s scarier than a member of a group that is reviled by most of the population and has no political power despite outnumbering several prominent groups that have tremendous political clout?
And if I wasn’t clear enough, you’re a piece of crap bigot.
Dave, #20 Dave:
Thanks for the comment, but I am not very astute.
It is still early in the game but the polls
do not show Obama with any real separation.
2-3% on any given day. I do believe Hillary
is more popular than Biden. Obama and friends
know this also. If Mr. Biden “suddenly” needs to
leave public life HRC would be the logical
choice. This would boost Obama’s stock several
At the end of the day Obama’s in it to win.
If those who DO have access to factual information
feel it would be a game-changer, Obama will give
it serious consideration.
Michael, what about going to college for things that are neither liberal arts or a trade? Such as Architecture, Engineering, Any of the sciences (Chemistry, Biology, Anatomy etc..) or what about even Law School and Medical School?
Isn’t the primary result for the majority of college-goers to find employment in their area of study? Generally it’s Liberal Arts Degree holders who do not, or are unable.
I’m a big proponent that if you are seeking employment that you seek education in a field whose job requires a license, because you will ultimately become more valuable. More valuable than say a “business major” who may be able to run a business, but still needs to learn about what kind of business they are in, and how to manipulate their markets to be successful. i.e. a business major may be good at running a chain of restaurants, but might suck at running a car repair shop.
It’s important to be well-rounded and educated in many different areas, but most every college has ways to force this to happen, such as VT’s Core Curriculum classes.
MichaelH, I have a degree in History and I’ve had that exact same argument – right down to the “college isn’t trade school” – bit. Thing is, I usually have it with conservatives.
Some time back we had heated exchanges about illegal immigration.
I steadfastly held that one major key would be to dry up the jobs by making it very unprofitable for business to hire undocumented workers.
Well lookie here:
Why wave of Mexican immigration stopped
By Jeffrey S. Passel and D’Vera Cohn, Special to CNN
updated 11:20 AM EDT, Thu April 26, 2012
(CNN) — To those of us who have studied the largest wave of immigration in history from a single country to the United States — the four-decade-long influx of millions of Mexicans — it seemed inconceivable that it would ever come to a halt. Yet, as our new Pew Hispanic Center report has shown, it has.
What caused the big immigration wave to stop? We think that many factors were at work, on both sides of the border. We cannot say how much of a role each of them played in tamping down migration to the United States and setting up the large reverse flows, but they all seem to have had an impact.
The sharp decline began about five years ago, around the time the U.S. housing market collapsed. Many construction jobs held by Mexican immigrants vanished. The continued weakness in the overall U.S. economy made it harder to find other jobs as well. Although the Great Recession has officially ended, the job market is not back to what it was.
Would it not be a good time to enforce major financial disincentives on businesses before the tide turns again?
IMHO, now is the time to put big fines for hire undocumented workers in place. We might do well to also require civil recovery (from those who hire for undocumented workers) for the cost incurred by the goverment as a result of each such worker.
Given what I have personally seen of the lose in Alaska (on many a work and some pleasure trips over a period of 30 years), this is really scarey.
6 April 2012 Last updated at 09:42 ET
World’s glaciers ‘out of balance’
By Jonathan Amos Science correspondent, BBC News, Vienna
Earth’s glaciers are seriously out of balance with the global climate and are already on their way to losing almost 40% of their volume.
That is the assessment of scientists after studying a representative group of 144 small and large glaciers around the world.
Their figure assumes no further warming of the climate.
However, if temperatures continue to rise as models predict, the wastage will be even higher, the team says.
Excellent idea Dave Hicks #33!
Dave Hicks, I agree with your premise that this is an opportune time for action, and especially like the civil recovery for the government’s costs idea.
But it has always bothered me that the immigration debate is always framed first and usually only in terms of the economic impact. Shouldn’t public health and national security be placed ahead of economics as prioritites in the debate?
I watched a documentary recently about Atheist soldiers who demanded their own Chaplain…
Scott, I agree however last year we hired a young lady who had just finished the Masters program at tech in building construction. She is very well educated and very smart and we have had to teach her to do her job. I don’t know any degree programs that teach you how to do your job. Friends that are Lawyers tell me the same thing. The vocabulary of a particular industry learned in a specific program is invaluable. A college graduate should also know how to write, research and solve problems. A big thing a college degree tells me is that the person will finish what they start and that is huge. See Kristen I keep telling you we probably agree on more than you think.
Yes Scott, I’m sure of it I agree with you a well educated person should be well rounded. There have been a number of articles recently about the real value of a college education. The military requires commissioned officers to have a college degree. Only about 26% of the US population have a Bachelors Degree and only 11% have a Masters Degree. The value of a college degree cannot simply be defined by the average salaries of degree holders
37.”I watched a documentary recently about Atheist soldiers who demanded their own Chaplain…
Why not? He/she could be a Unitarian.
Try this again.
Romney on catching Bin Laden, not worth moving heaven and earth.
CCW stops man on a stabbing spree in a supermarket without firing a shot.
57 year old grandmother threatened with robbery in her car, shot at, returns fire.
Looks like I successfully maneuvered Contra into returning to his sincerest form of flattery — using my avatar.
It’s incredible how I can manipulate these clowns to do whatever I want.
Posted on April 26th, 2012″
His? Not its? Am I a male now? Hmmmm…..
LOL! Screwzie, you’re my gal! Love ya! Mean it! LOL!
MichaelH, I have a degree in History
If this were true –which it isn’t–why would you ever broadcast having such a worthless degree? Then why would you pick ‘history’ when you are so obviously ignorant of the subject?
“Nazi Germany was a Catholic regime.”
John, None of you on here are truly Athiest.
Oh yeah, a really successful “maneuver” there Suzie! Turn those lemons into rotted fruit and declare it lemonade!
#34 I’m sorry, Dave, but there was a very big snowstorm in western Virginia a couple of years ago and then we had this one cold snap, so that proves there’s no global warming.
#43 Looks like we maneuvered suzie into returning to the blog after she swore she was gone.
It’s incredible how we can manipulate this clown into doing whatever we want.
“It’s incredible how I can manipulate these clowns to do whatever I want.”
There is a grain of truth to this.
Michael, I totally agree with you about degrees and salaries… and to add to it, value contributed based on degree/salary.
Back at AOL in the early 90s, there were MANY entrepreneurs, programmers, and visionaries in there, and few of them had college degrees much less in a computer-related field. They developed or innovated a lot of the technology we use today all over the internet, and did so with little traditional education.
Then there were a ton of MBAs (Mostly from Time Warner Merger) that came in to try and quantify everything and turn it into a business, and ended up running everything into the ground. Of course, some of the sales and accounting people falsifying information helped too.
With regards to your employee, the same thing has essentially happened to me. When I was a programmer for 12 years, I had no formal training or education. I was lucky to have my first degree reimbursed from working at AOL. Then a number of years ago, I went back to school to get a second bachelor’s degree in Electrical Engineering. I had a number of job opportunities before i graduated, and took one that required me to have a specific degree, but none of what I did at this job was taught to me on campus.
What they did teach me, was how to learn, and how to apply basic electrical theory into my workplace. That was invaluable. Sure I needed to learn the systems of my company, as everyone does. But the education I received was more than just how to design lighting and power systems for architects.
Thanks for admitting you want me in the blog. I knew it!
46.”John, None of you on here are truly Athiest.”
Where do you get this? Is it because no one can be an athiest in your opinion or you can’t handle the idea of conversing with athiests or what? Better yet, what criteria are you using to disqualify each poster here from being athiest?
Wow Suzi, talk about turning on your own, and I often defend you to Sandi, Dan and the balance of the liberal’s on the blog. There are a few things I’m 100% sure (not many more) of one is I earned an undergraduate degree in History from the University of Tennessee and a Masters Degree in Business from Avertt University. I’m 100% conservative. Call UT if you don’t believe me. They are actually very proud and suprised I finally graduated. I did mature before Graduate School and finished with a 3.97. Why did I major in History? Good question. I knew what I wanted to do when I graduated I had a job waiting so I majored in something I really liked and still do. I also have a minor in Math which is helpful. Scott, do you and I know each other. I was with Branch & Associates for 15 years prior to starting a business 6 years ago. I have worked with most A&E firms in SW Virginia. I generally find Engineers easier to work with than Architects. We do predominately hard bid public work and we try very hard to have great relationships with A&E’s.
The broad perspective a liberal arts degree confers can provide a great background for future success in many different endeavors. Steve Jobs never finished college, but the one he went to was a small-liberal arts college.
In Annapolis, across the street from the Naval Academy, is a small private institution called St. John’s College. There, everybody studies the great books in their original languages (mostly Latin and Greek). The student body has the highest average SAT scores of any college in the country. And major corporations recruit fiercely there. Over the years, many of them have ended up at IBM.
“Thanks for admitting you want me in the blog. I knew it!”
Isn’t that sweet? Screwzie needs to be wanted by liberals.
Like I said my primary reason for going to college was not to get a job but to become educated. I think History is an excellent degree. It teaches one the research, read and think critically, and write. If one and or all of my boys decide to major in History I will be fine with that decision as a long as they understand they will probably have to go to graduate or professional school. At The University of Tennessee a liberal arts major was required to complete what they called the “Traid” which required the student to take a variety of upper division classes in a wide range of subjects to make sure the student was well rounded. I think it served it’s purpose.
#54 Michael, I think troll suzie was addressing Kristen in that post but her whole schtick on that subject is to ridicule any major except engineering. The rest of us are quite aware that people can major in most anything and still be successful (no matter how you gauge that). OTOH, suze proves to us that a person can major in engineering (IF she really did major in that) and still be a failure and an ass.
Ooops. I missed the post where you said you had a history degree. My apologies. Obviously there are exceptions to my blanket statement. You’ve obviously made a success of yourself. It sounds like the business and math side may have contributed to your success more than perhaps the history. My point was history isn’t an field that in itself produces that many jobs, and can sometimes attract radical leftwing faculty and students who end up contributing very little to society.
The thing about education is the value placed on it can only be measured by the person with the degree in their hand. I have known well educated people who were dumber than a box of rocks and uneducated people who seemingly could do anything. Hiring someone based only on a degree can be just as iffy a proposition as hiring someone who is not formally educated. Smart people can learn, comprehend and process better than less smart people, regardless of the setting or the piece of paper they have attained. The real value in education is the mind opening and enlightenment it can bring that many without that opportunity never attain. Sadly many with that opportunity do not always attain it either.
Having always felt the lack of my education, nothing makes me angrier than an educated fool.
Michael, anyone so desperate for a friend that they call Suzie “their own” is a sad spectacle. Just sad.
#54 BTW, Michael, I might be at the lacrosse game tonight, depending on weather. IF I’m there, I’ll ask around and see if you’re there.
Worthless degree! Really?? Where did you go to school and what degree do you have??? Pray Tell
8.”I prefer cherry pie over apple any day. Does that make me un-American?
Comment by Lynda K”
Just saw this….. No, Lynda it doesn’t make you un-American, it makes you a Warrant fan.
Dan, When I worked for IBM Baltimore back in the 80′s / 90′s I worked with quite a few graduates of St. John’s. Most were super preppy, Annapolis types but all were head and shoulders above most of the engineers and sales guys in terms of writing and speaking skills… even the Princeton and Harvard grads.
When you think about it, atheist/liberals are the ultimate cowards. They take shots at Christians and what they believe, but are somewhat immune to criticism because they refuse to take a moral stand or have moral principles themselves. They’re the classic talkers sitting back taking shots at the doers.
Big game tonight Gdad!
St. John’s is right across the street from the Naval Academy, and the two schools couldn’t be more different. I don’t recall it as a preppy place — it seemed to have more hippies than preps. But maybe they cleaned up good after they got out.
God they were smart, though. Harvard and Princeton were where the kids rejected by St. Johns went.
The “Johnnies” used to have an annual croquet match against the midshipmen and crush them every time.
I challenge anyone to tell me what good Nikki Giovanni is to the students at Virginia Tech. Unless they want to be man-hating leftwing racists. And what the hell good is poetry for godsake? Why would a school waste money on a ‘poetry department’?
“Michael A. Howdyshell says:
My undergraduate degree is in History. I believe in the merits of a Liberal Arts education.
If this were true –which it isn’t–why would you ever broadcast having such a worthless degree?”
“Michael A. Howdyshell says:
Wow Suzi, talk about turning on your own, and I often defend you to Sandi, Dan and the balance of the liberal’s on the blog.”
Michael, what you need to understand is that Screwzie thinks only certain degrees are worth anything. Unless you’re Rush Limpball, who dropped out of college after flunking everything for two semesters.
Of course, Screwzie thinks that Jesus sits at the right hand of God, but Limpball sits in His lap.
You also should realize that because Screwzie is a liar, lying is her frame of reference for all her interactions with other people. She assumes everyone else lies about their accomplishments, etc., because she lies about hers.
Personally, I don’t agree with everything you post, but if you say you have a degree in History, I believe you. I also agree with you about the merits of a Liberal Arts education and the value of sticking with something to the end.
Suzie, it is well documented that reptiles just look for the next place to pounce. No need to pretend you can think.
Worthless degree! Really??
Again, I apologize for the blanket statement. It was directed at Kristen; not you. Obviously some people do well with such a degree, as you yourself did.
Back pedaling alert! Suzie stepped in it…yet again. Yeah Michael, she is sorry she got busted, and that is all.
“And what the hell good is poetry for godsake? Why would a school waste money on a ‘poetry department’?
Obviously, she’s never heard of Shakespeare. He was a poet and playwright. Every TV drama or sitcom you’ve ever seen, he wrote the plot.
“John Wilburn says:
Just saw this….. No, Lynda it doesn’t make you un-American, it makes you a Warrant fan.
Posted on April 27th, 2012″
That’s funny, John!
@69 So, if you think poetry is worthless, then I assume you tore the Song of Soloman out of your Bibles? Lordy, you have no culture and no soul.
Human beings are more than paychecks and building ugly crap that time destroys. If you truly believed in “souls”, you would believe in things of beauty. Heck, I don’t even believe in souls but I believe in beauty.
You are a sad little man.
Thank you Suzi. Apology accepted. You are correct I did encounter a few liberal professors. Most were very respectful of different opinions as long as you could support your views. The worst I had was in graduate school in Human Resource Management. I had the class when the Family Leave and Medical bill was signed and I argued that it was a stupid useless bill that directly hurt business’s and was in direct conflict with the primary goal of business which is to increase shareholder wealth. I got a B in that class, the only one I received in graduate school.
Suzie, you are a challenge and you are challenged, but there are things that people either get or they don’t. Your limitations are loud, profane and glaring. God himself could not explain the value or “good” of anyone or anything that rusty trap of yours has decided on, and none of us feel like trying to penetrate the caverns of ignorance your education did not reach. FWIW, I think she has great value just because she pisses you off and that alone is enough for me. That she is talented and challenges students to think is just a bonus. It is not a Suzie slogan that Tech folk repeat now is it?
There are simply citadels of ignorance no one can breach and I for one, appreciate you demonstrating that.
I’m happy that your business is prospering despite the Family and Medical Leave Act.
Isn’t it hysterical to watch suzie trying to backpedal out of the crap she stepped into? And to watch her admit that a history degree isn’t necessarily worthless.
What a dolt.
#67 I’m hoping PH can find a way to handle Glass, Michael. At least the boy’s soccer team took them 4-0 Wednesday night.
#77 BTW, Michael, suzie also claims that she thinks lacrosse is a sissy, liberal sport (never mind that the best high school lacrosse is played at exclusive conservative prep schools). Another idiotic blanket statement from the troll.
Suzi, please understand while I don’t agree with them on a lot of stuff, I very much like Kristen, Gdad, and Dan. We all should be able to disagree in a respectful manner. A lot of liberals on this blog are well read and offer intelligent and thoughtful arguments (although usually wrong) and we should be respectful and attack the message without attacking the messenger. The left has a very hard time with this. We need to set a good example for them, in my opinion.
The FMLA was way out of whack and not necessary.
Oh, I see Lynda (I’m with the band) is back. The next drive-by Friday music blog, I may share my own such story. It happened a long long time ago. I was invited to meet a prominent rocker and turned it down partly because I had no idea who he was. The odds against such an occurrence were staggering, but yet it happened. And it’s more believable than Rush Limbaugh begging Dan to be on his show.
“This is wrong. Both sides do it.”
And believers, historically, have been the worse of the two. When I hear these tales of religious discrimination and the courage it takes to be a Christian, I want to gag! Being a Christian is quite fashionable, more so than ever, if you ask me. All of the religious “showiness” with the pointing to the sky gestures and kneeling in the endzone in football have made it super cool. And that is fine if it is your conviction… more power to you! But it takes real guts to “come out” as an atheist. I grew up in the bible belt of Bluefield and I can tell you admitted atheists were thought of with disdain just like gay people were then and there. I hope things are evolving, but there are a scary amount of folks who change their entire perception of someone who is an atheist and think they cannot have any morals, are not trustworthy, and have bad character by default. Remember, the highly religious, e.g. Baptists, are taught that people are not inherently good, but only have any good about them by the grace of God. That doesn’t leave non-believers with a much of a default in their eyes.
Suzi, I’m very conservative and enjoy literature, poetry, hunting, fishing and have a new favorite sport, Lacrosse. My second favorite (sons favorite) is swimming. It is strange to me that a conservative would not like what are otherwise are considered elitist sports and like sports of the “masses”. Not that I necessarily agree with that assessment but pay attention to the caliber of people at football games v lacrosse matches. I can say that because I played football and basketball for many years, I’m an avid college football fan and my high school had never heard of lacrosse. Like it or not it’s true. Lacrosse is the most exciting sport I have ever watched. I hope my boys continue to play Lacrosse, swim and don’t play football.
#77 Really Michael, it’s okay if she is belittling Kristen when you thought she meant you, but if she says I meant her, not you, it’s okay?
Gdad we will be the family with three blonde haired wild little boys.
Michael, as an engineer I have to wholeheartedly agree with your sentiments about architects…they are a pain to work with! When doing some traffic studies for an architectural firm for a few of their projects, they were almost as bad to deal with as actual developers who constantly tried to change the scope of their projects mid-stream and expected us to just re-do several weeks of work at no charge.
Interestingly enough, I did work with an engineer who also got a history degree. He was not licensed, but knew his stuff as well or better than anyone with an engineering degree that I had run across. Between my classes as NC State Virginia Tech, I really enjoyed the liberal arts classes I had interspersed among engineering courses. The content matter has not really come in handy so much, but the writing and critical thinking skills most definitely have, especially since I frequently interact with local governments (both staff and councils/boards of supervisors), planning groups, citizens, and fellow engineers.
Most of my work rarely has a black & white reality…there’s varying shades of gray as I have to find the balance between benefits for drivers, construction workers, project budgets, and seasonal timing. Trying to convey that to relatively oblivious citizens and government boards has been the biggest challenge. But thankfully, it’s been successful when we’ve had to vigorously defend our work, such as against people with backgrounds in aviary science (seriously) who challenged our methodology and results thinking they didn’t ‘seem’ correct. I’m glad that now I am out of the private development arena and again working on projects that benefit the public directly, it’s far more satisfying.
Suzie… You want to talk about our brushes with music celebrities? ok.
I once met, and actually danced on stage with, Chuck Berry. This was in the late 80′s, at a friend’s private company party at George Mason University. Chuck was there, and Fats Domino and Ronnie Milsap. One of the best parties I have ever attended.
That doesn’t top the time I met Jimmy Buffet though. I was dating a guy who was friends with him when he lived in Florida and we saw him back stage at a concert at Merriweather Post Pavilion. Nice guy.
Then there’s one of my best friends who went to high school with and even briefly dated Richie Sambora of Bon Jovi fame.
That’s all I’ve got. Your turn…
82.#77 BTW, Michael, suzie also claims that she thinks lacrosse is a sissy, liberal sport (never mind that the best high school lacrosse is played at exclusive conservative prep schools). Another idiotic blanket statement from the troll.
Gdad: From what I gather, Suzie just objected to new school lacrosse teams at a time when schools are so destitute they had to ask for handouts. Stop being the real troll trying to stir up trouble.
Yeah Gdad, she can only backpedal and eat so much crow per day.
No Debbie not ok to belittle anyone.
#92 You gather wrong, yaj. suzie has repeatedly laughed at and made fun of lacrosse in the past. Same with soccer. Maybe you should quit being its lapdog and take a critical look at what it says (if you’re not actually the same persona as suzie).
#89 Sounds good, Michael.
Jimmy Buffet is known to fish for marlin, etc. off the coast of Virginia. He does so out of Wachaprague, VA. If you have lunch or dinner at the Island House restaurant you might bump into him there from time to time.
Nope, we do not know each other. I only worked in the A/E field in Roanoke for 4 years while getting my degree. When I graduated, I found a larger firm outside of town in which I had more opportunity to grow. I did not attend the correct church or kiss the right amount of “good ole boy” ass to have any growth potential at my firm in Roanoke. (That’s not a jab at you for our difference of opinion on religious topics.)
and yes. Architects are a major pain.
I see I picked a particularly hilarious day to be out of town. So much of her own crap to eat Suzie had to summon yaj to partake.
I partied with Adam ant once. Other than that I got nothing.
No Suzie we didn’t want you back. We were not surprised and rather pleased when you proved once again that you mwere a liar with no principles when you reneged on your explicitly stated promise that you would be gone from the blog if Dan trashed any more of your comments that you didn;t believe violated his very lenioent stasndards of decency. Seeing you continue to make a fool of your yourself due to your need for attention is actually quite amusing. You remind me a great deal of Mitt Romney in your ability to become contorted into a human pretzel.
Comment by Warren — April 26, 2012 @ 5:58 pm
I, for one have never framed the issue terms of the economic impact, only.
Nor do I propose framing the solution terms of the economic disincentives, only.
I am suggesting disincentives as a tool that would help stop illegal immigration.
What I find very interesting is that the many folk who complain about the cost of public health and claim to support national security also tend to resist economic disincentives directed toward themselves employing undocumented workers.
BTW, as to public health cost, might not the states pass laws to recover from the “illegal employers” any cost directly associated with the undocumented workers they they have illegally employed, as well as any dependents those whom the illegal employers hired?
IMHO, just clanging the terminology in the dialogue from “illegal immigrant” to “illegal employers of undocumented workers” might go a long way to helping solve the problems.
Wow, so Zimmermans already lying to his new attorney and didn’t think to mention a couple hundred K in the bank he raised for his “defense”.
I can’t believe Zimmerman raised $200k in a few weeks. I need to get a paypal link on this blog. Think the NRA would contribute?
The donated money should have gone directly to the attorney, that would have resolved the problem. Have it go straight toward his fees.
“Wow, so Zimmermans already lying to his new attorney and didn’t think to mention a couple hundred K in the bank he raised for his “defense”.”
What do you expect. He’s a Democrat.
Architect or Engineer or Traffic Control, WHY CAN’T THE MANHOLE BE OUTSIDE THE MAIN TIRE TRACK OF A LANE? Every day of my life I have to get jarred by a manhole, some entirely too deep, smack in the middle of the tire track instead of the lane. It is almost as prevalent as new pavement having a water main break and requiring it to be cut up and patched. I’m just sayin’!
Also, a business near us changed hands and the City required the new owner to put in curb and gutter and trees but totally ignored the traffic site blockage from the arrangement of their parking lot that is the far, far more egregious problem.
It is almost like no one has any common sense any more.
Oh yeah, remember her famous “Post of the Day” with the differences between the City and County folks?
“…The city resident votes Democrat. Couples, if they have kids give them names like Hunter or Evan who play PC sports like soccer or lacrosse….“
Sandi, for the manhole question…that really goes to utility engineers, specifically water and wastewater engineers. With most of their systems, the lines are pressurized, except for storm sewers which run on gravity flow unless they are pumped. Because of the pressurized nature of water and sanitary sewer lines, they need to run as straight as possible, with minimal changes in angles with thrust blocks where elbows are present. As a result, it’s often more difficult to curve their systems with the alignments of surface streets, resulting in manholes in the roadway. With storm sewers, it’s often the same problem, because every time you introduce a bend in the line, it creates turbulence that disrupts the flow and can cause sedimentation, blockages, and other undesireable impacts.
Plus, the other main factor is public utilities are generally places within public rights-of-way, such as those which roads exist. In those cases, the utilities do not need to purchase easements or additional rights-of-way to construct their lines…they simply coordinate with the owner of the roads on the construction and rehabilitation of the roadway after construction. It’s pretty cost-effective to place a lot of those systems underneath asphalt, as compared to off the shoulder of the road, both because of the right-of-way issue, but also when you get off the road surface, you directly impact dozens of property owners.
It’s frustrating for sure…and in the cases of manholes or junction boxes being located in the road, they are supposed to be constructed with collars to help keep the lids flush with the road surface, or very close to flush. The problem comes in when there is unexpected settling of the collar or roadway, resulting in the two having a height variation. The other problem comes in during repaving. Many localities do not mill and re-pave their roadways…that is, removing the top 1-2″ of asphalt pavement and repaving with 1-2″ of fresh asphalt pavement. Many times, they simply patch potholes and then overlay the existing surface, raising the road surface 1-2″ as a result. Technically, when that is done, manholes are supposed to be adjusted to the new road surface, but that is often ignored, resulting in the problems you describe.
The bottom line is that milling pavement is pricey and adds to paving schedule costs, so often cash-strapped governments choose to ignore that. It creates problems with utility covers, stormwater management systems (drop inlets, gutters, etc), bridge clearances, and other issues though. Same goes for adjusting manholes…it’s often a costly addition to a paving project, so unless people vehemently complain about it, they don’t mess with them.
As for the site issue you mention, I know at VDOT they try to enforce sight distance requirements for commercial entrances, to ensure that adequate safey is provided for at road connections. It sounds like the City just decided to allow the existing parking to be grandfathered in, despite the problems. Not the best way to do it, but messing with business parking can be detrimental to the business, especially if their site is not conducive to re-configuring the parking without losing spaces in the process.
Understood Scott, good luck where ever you are. It’s a tough business no matter what you do.
I missed that one Sandi, I actually agree with some of the things she says. We live in the city, South Roanoke, in a 100 year old house. We have a son named Hunter who swims and plays Lacrosse. I’m a huge sports fan but I rarely if ever go to Tech games I go to UT or UVa games. She did miss this one bad we vote almost 100% Republican and are very conservative. Oh yea our families have been in this area for almost 300 years.
#94 Thank you, Michael.
So pray tell Suzi how do I fit into your cookie cutter world?
“So pray tell Suzi how do I fit into your cookie cutter world?”
I’ll answer that: in Suzie’s mind you’re one of the few OK liberal-arts majors because you’re a conservative. I’ve never seen her brown nose anyone as much as she did you.
Henry, how on earth do you know Zimmerman’s “politics”?
Thanks for the explanation of a peeve Other John, I appreciate it.
The really odd thing about that parking lot is that I don’t think the City realizes that the solution is so simple I could do it. They just did not bother to look at it IMO. The trees and curb they looked at however. There was an accident there the other day and I almost stopped and told one of the drivers to insist the City be called to see the problem and what it caused. You have to literally enter the intersection before you can see anything except a semi coming down the street. That is not right.
Michael H, you nailed it. Her world is “cookie cutter” only, and she cannot adjust for reality. Sad really, but that is the downfall for all rigid people. If you want to enjoy your marriage and your sons all your life, don’t be rigid. Principled and rigid are too different things. That is some free advice, and doubtless worth what you paid for it.
I met George W. Bush once, and that was nothing.
andi, Although I disagree with the way she says it I agree with a lot of things Suzi says, mainly on taxes and national issues. I disagree with her on her broad generalizations about groups of people. I come a lot closer to agreeing with her then I do with you. I personally don’t like the way either one of you express your disagreement with others. I don’t approve or condone the way she refers to our President. While I disagree with everything he is and stands for I respect him as a person, his accomplishments and the office he holds. I can’t stand your personal attacks on Republicans or anyone else that disagrees with your narrow view of the world. I read most all your post and it appears to me you attack people rather than ideas. It also appears that you resent very successful people like Mitt Romney. Why I have no idea what has the man ever done to you??
missed the “S” SHould be Sandi
Thanks Sandi, I will heed your advice. I failed to mention that even when I disagree with you I’m impressed with your arguments. You certainly write and research well.
66.”When you think about it, atheist/liberals are the ultimate cowards. They take shots at Christians and what they believe, but are somewhat immune to criticism because they refuse to take a moral stand or have moral principles themselves. They’re the classic talkers sitting back taking shots at the doers.”
This is pure garbage. Not a word of truth in it. Atheists can be moral without being religous. Christians take as many or more shots at the athiests. “Sitting back” doesn’t describe atheists, it describes the lazy. Those who soak up blind faith are the intellectually lazy.
Is your religion where all of your morality derives?
Injuries killed us tonight Gdad. I guess I can say we as I live in the PH district and my kids will goto High School there, unless they really upset me and we send them to Hargrave. Glass is good but we had chances, wow what an exciting game.
Michael H, I never said a word one about Willard Romney until he decided to run for President and to this day, I have not called him an insulting epithet or made any claim about him that is not true. I resent ANY Wall Street Corporate Raider who would want to be President given what Wall Street helped to visit on this nation. What he has “done to me” is the EXACT same thing President Obama has done to you.
You are like a lot of Conservatives who still want to maintain their dignity. You appreciate the mud and invective Suzie will hurl for you, just like the TP/GOP does Limbaugh and Coulter but they are never on the guest list and you have to distance yourself from the worst of it. We certainly have those folks as well.
Suzie manages to push every single button I have and I unleash every bit of bile I can produce, I hate it, but it is my cross. The hatred I feel has also colored my interactions with other, less vile, but just as dogmatic posters and that too is a failing I am aware of. I would apologize for it, but that would mean I intend to do better and until she is gone, that will not happen.
I beg to differ on one point, I do not have a “narrow view of the world”. I have a narrow focus of concern. There is a difference. I am well aware of how the world works and has worked throughout history. However, I take the teachings of Jesus Christ very seriously. I identify with the people I come from, the working class. They are my concern and frankly my only concern. I know, work for, worship with and consider some very wealthy people to be friends. I have immense respect for most all of them. I accept my conservative friends and know that while their concern is different for their reasons, they do not wish me ill, nor I them. I do not have any “right wingers” as friends and would not consider such a thing. Life is too short.
IMO, the overall message from Jesus was to “love thy neighbor”, be our brother’s keeper and serve God. As far as politics goes, it is our responsibility to see that the powerful people we elect to run the government do not harm or ignore the powerless (the least of these). Since I take that as my duty, I am very, very offended by much of what Suzie et al says, supports and defends. I believe that you and many others who ignore what is glaring to me, have convinced yourselves that the poor and low wage workers have “made their bed” and are and should “live with their choices” because that helps you ignore your part in the location of that bed and the reason for those choices so yes, that makes me angry too.
Now, before you, or anyone else dismisses that POV as “self-righteous” and the other epithets for what I consider my journey as a follower of Christ, you tell me how someone who is passionately “pro life”, “pro gun”, “pro-business”, and has no compunction voting and speaking according to that passion and using the government, laws and political elections to bring that belief into acceptance is really any different?
#123 Yep, PH had its chances early and should have been ahead by a couple at the half. Sounds like the defenseman who went out probably has a torn ACL, and I know Will D has been hurting for a while. Don’t know that they’ll get him back even close to 100 percent this year. Brock was getting work on his back at halftime and I saw Herman go out hurt. They played them well but Glass was tough and we lost too many players. And we need those guys back to keep playing well.
I looked around but didn’t spot anybody I thought was you and the few folks I asked didn’t know you. Maybe at another game.
I would be interested in your opinion as to whether Mitt Romney is a “job creator” and if so, how?
Rather timely Re: this blog
Thinking can undermine religious faith, study finds
Those who think more analytically are less inclined to be religious believers than are those who tend to follow a gut instinct, researchers conclude.
By Amina Khan, Los Angeles Times
April 26, 2012, 9:05 p.m.
Scientists have revealed one of the reasons why some folks are less religious than others: They think more analytically, rather than going with their gut. And thinking analytically can cause religious belief to wane — for skeptics and true believers alike.
The study, published in Friday’s edition of the journal Science, indicates that belief may be a more malleable feature of the human psyche than those of strong faith may think.
Interesting link Dave H. I think it makes sense. I worry about anyone who says they “never doubt”. Hell, the Disciples doubted! Like I said, rigidity is the kiss of death.
Mitt Romney today nonce again showed his complete lack of understanding of how America’s middle and lower middle class people live. In his speech at Otterbein College he exhorted the students to take Financial risks to get their education and to start their own businesses as entrepreneurs. All well and good. But his largewr point was that they should not expedt
government to play a role in helping them obtain low cost financing for their education. Instead, he feels they should just “borrow the money from their parents” Then he gave the example of the guy who borrowed $20000 bucks from his parents to start his chain of sandwich shops.
Right Mitt. Parents who are living paycheck to paycheck, many of whom are about three missed paydays from ending up losing everything they have, are going to be able to pony up for the $20000 dollars to help little Sam start a sandwich shop. Or the $50000 dollars that Susie needs to take advantage of college or higher education training. (And that’s after Sam and Susie work as many hours on part time jobs as they can to pay for the rest). Because Mitt’s parents could lloan him the money or could give him a big batch of stock which he sold to pay for his education and living expenses, he assumes that is the norm. He doesn’t get it and he never will. And as a President, he will bring more disaster down on the middle class and on the country.
Fair enough we can continue to agree to disagree. Gdad we were on the west if the students basically in front if the concession stand. We are going to Glass next Friday and will be at the game Wednesday. I felt bad for Will as he really tried to play. Very physical game. The little guys play Salem this morning. Should be a good game. We got there last night at the end of the ladies game. Did the JV win?
Art, I will address your question just need s little more time than I have right now
#130 Actually, I think I might have seen you. Anyway, I think the JV lost but didn’t hear much about it. Might be going to see Roanoke-W&L today.
Dave I agree with Mitt don’t expect Government to help, its not their job. If you can’t afford to educate kids don’t have them plus don’t banks do student loans? I have borrowed money from family to help a business
Gdad cub scout camping trip would have loved to have see W&L and Roanoke
Re: Comment by Michael A. Howdyshell — April 28, 2012 @ 10:40 am
Do you deny that Tax Expenditures (i.e., forgone revenue via various tax provisions that provide tax breaks for certain taxpayers and for certain activities) are a form of “Government Help”?
Are they not as much “Government Help” in promoting education as programs to help educate kids funded through the annual appropriations process?
Are you proposing all Tax Expenditures related to education provided to families, philanthropically organizations, individuals, etc also be abolished?
Or does the socioeconomic status of the direct recipient have a barring on who should not expect Government subsidy?
Re: my last
But for one example check out: http://tinyurl.com/7y83a72
By Joseph Nicholson, eHow Contributor
How to Establish Scholarship under IRS Rules thumbnail
Establish Scholarship under IRS Rules
Not only is establishing a scholarship a good deed, it’s also a way to write off income as if done correctly. Most scholarships are created by companies or other entities through creation of a private foundation. A foundation can award funds to employees, their relatives, or to any individual so long as the recipients are not selected by any discriminatory means.
Dave, I don’t consider tax breaks Government assistance as all they do is allow the rightful owners of the money to keep more of their money. Art, when Mitt Romney started or purchased any business his goal was not to create jobs it was ti increase shareholder wealth as it should have been. As President one of his jobs will be to improve the economy and put people back to work and off Government assistance, and I think he will for just that.
We can use the tax code to crush companies sitting on cash and reward those who hire Americans. That would be one way to motivate the ” job creators”
Re: Comment by Michael A. Howdyshell — April 28, 2012 @ 1:12 pm
So, in your opinion, it is OK to subsidize folk who can already pay to educate their children but not to subsidize folk who need a little help paying to educate their children?
I disagree. But opinions are like noses….
As always, YMMV.
Michael A. Howdyshell posted @133 – “I agree with Mitt don’t expect Government to help, its not their job.” However, when Mitt needed to be “rescued” he turned to the government…
Mitt Romney’s rescue of Bain & Co. business consulting firm was achieved in part by convincing the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. TO FORGIVE ROUGHLY $10 MILLION OF THE COMPANY’S DEBTS, according to sources close to the deal and federal records obtained by The Boston Globe.
Romney, whose business acumen has been the cornerstone of his campaign, has said saving the consulting firm from the brink of bankruptcy in 1991 was the accomplishment that most convinced him he had the mettle to be a US senator.
[from the October 25, 1994 edition of The Boston Globe]
and Michael’s comment @137: “As President one of his jobs will be to improve the economy…”
Analysis: ROMNEY LACKS CLEAR REMEDY FOR U.S. ECONOMY – (REUTERS)
“ Mitt Romney, the frontrunner for the 2012 Republican presidential nomination, is promising Americans deep spending cuts, smaller government, trade penalties on China, a new Federal Reserve chairman and sweeping deregulation.
The bold economic strategy Romney has sketched out in his White House bid seems designed to appeal to the radicalized conservative base of the Republican Party.
The Tax Policy Center, a non-partisan think tank, says these cuts would cost the government $180 billion in revenues by 2015, increasing the already swollen federal budget deficit.” http://news.yahoo.com/analysis-romney-lacks-clear-remedy-u-economy-060328990.html
I don’t think he is the man or “savior” you think he is…
Micheal Howdeyshell said: “I don’t consider tax breaks Government assistance as all they do is allow the rightful owners of the money to keep more of their money”.
What about literally giving away public resources for free? Any American who claims a serious interest in history, politics or the environment surely knows about the General Mining Act of 1872:
The Mineral Policy Center estimates that mining companies extract $2 billion to $3 billion in minerals from public lands every year—royalty free. From 1872 to 1993, mining companies took more than $230 billion out of the federal lands, royalty free, according to the Mineral Policy Center.
Have I simply missed hearing about how self-described conservatives are making a big effort to change this corporate giveaway?
(P.S. Big Oil argues vigorously that royalties are a tax.)
Mike Howdyshell@10:40 AM
Michael, that reply just shows that you are as out of touch with the circumstances of middle class families as Mitt is. First “if you can’t afford to educate kids don’t have them” is about the most naive statement I’ve ever heard you make. Nature and natural human take care of that one and not you or snyone else can stop it. And Mitt and the Republican social conservatives are fighting a war against contracdeption anyway. Next, yes banks make student loans, to people who have enough collateral or incomes high enough to qualify for them. The vast majority of middle to lower income people don’t. And finally, you happen to be one of the fortunate ones to hjave family who were in a position or could afford to make you the loans. Most middle to lower income people don’t. You arch conservatives are big on telling people to pull themselves up by their bootstraps. Then you want to turn around and deny them the resorces that
provide them with the opportunity to do that. And you don’t even see the contradiction in your thinking.
“When Mitt Romney purchased or started any business his goal was not to create jobs but to increase shareholder wealth”
At last you admit what we have been saying asll along. Mittt Romney is not a “job creator” he is a creator of wealth for shareholders. And it didn’t matter one bit to him whether his actions created jobs and saved companies or whether it destroyed them. So the mantra of “give the tax breaks to thge job creators” is false on its face. They could care less about creating jobs. If in some cases it creates jobs as a by product. If not, tough. And there is ample experience record over the 8 years of George W. Bush that in fact, it did not. And over the years since 1952 it has not. As a matter of fact, the lower the taxes on the top 10%, the worse the record is for job creation.
“his goal was not to create jobs it was to increase shareholder wealth”
So, Michael. Then you agree that all we’ve been hearing about “job creators” needing tax breaks is pure crapola and that their real focus is on making rich people richer. That’s what I thought, thanks.
If you can’t afford children (the greatest gift in life), don’t have them.
If you can’t afford an education (the greatest opportunity in life), learn to adapt.
If you can’t afford to start a business, don’t.
Tax breaks and incentives are rewards for being rich and or successful.
Paying workers the least you can get by with and as few benefits as you can is good business.
Telling the non-Plutocrats to “root little pig or die” is such a winning hand for a nation.
I am ashamed for you.
“Thinking can undermine religious faith, study finds”
That’s as funny as the headline “Study Shows Frequent Sex Enhances Pregnancy Chances” from Great moments in journalism (not!)
This could be Great moments in journalism (not!) #5.
145.”If you can’t afford children (the greatest gift in life), don’t have them.
If you can’t afford an education (the greatest opportunity in life), learn to adapt.
If you can’t afford to start a business, don’t.”
Was there supposed to be something wrong with this?
What is wrong with that is that Mike Howdyshell consistently takes the position that every American citizen has an equal opportunity to live the American dream, own their own busineess, become wealthy, and have the Leave it to Beaver family. Then he contradicts himself by saying, if you can’t afford it tough. Don’t try it.
So Sandi, its ok to have children and expect other people to pay for them. It appears to me that is what you are saying?
Re: Comment by Dan Casey — April 27, 2012 @ 11:18 am
Check out: http://tinyurl.com/c5rpyxx
St. John’s opens 30th croquet meet with new fight song
New lyrics modernize century-old version
By Joe Burris, The Baltimore Sun
5:11 p.m. EDT, April 29, 2012
If Notre Dame or Michigan decided to change their school fight songs, the moves would likely spark objections from students, alumni and faculty.
At St. John’s College, however, it’s a bit different. On April 28, at its 30th annual croquet match against the U.S. Naval Academy, the school planned to introduce a new fight song. And it appears people on the college’s Annapolis campus don’t seem to mind.
That’s partly because few can recall the current fight song.
Ah the loss of tradition!
We can use the tax code to crush companies sitting on cash and reward those who hire Americans. That would be one way to motivate the ” job creators”
Then you chase companies overseas. The very best way to accomplish the above is simply to abolish 0bamacare. Right now companies are afraid to hire because they don’t want to pay for Monkey Boy’s boondoggle. I don’t know why this obvious fact escapes leftwingers.
You are free to respond to these people however you wish. I understand your desire to be “polite” as your name and business are in public view for all to see.
Me? I think it’s important to call people out on idiocy without having to pull punches. That’s why I like to remain anonymous. I don’t need some crank taking my stuff out of context or just plain lying about my posts, sending something to some nut organization, then that organization trying to hurt our business.
As for Kristen, Gdad, Dan, and Sandi having sincere opinions, that would assume they give issues some thought. They don’t. They just repeat whatever the liberal talking point for the day is. I can predict what they’ll say on every issue before I see it.
Wow, Michael. I’ve bent over backwards twice to explain to you you are not included in my general portrayal of city liberals. It is a mystery why you persist in commenting.
I’ll try once more. I recognize trends in the habits of Roanoke City liberals. ‘Trends’ doesn’t mean every single liberal in Roanoke City does these things, and it doesn’t mean every single person who does these things is liberal. It is a satire based on generalities. I would recommend just keeping your head low and staying out of the line of fire. It’s not meant for you.
Right Michael. Just keep your head low, your powder dry, and crawl back into your bunker. Then when Mama Suzie needs you , she’ll send out an SOS. You’re killing her carefully constructed image of all conservatives
as rigid, bigoted, profane and insulting jerks. She likes your rigidity
but she’s having a real problem with you on the other three.
I said, rigidity is the kiss of death.
Two things. #1 Rigidity can be a good thing if it means holding off the nuts. Look at how well Virginia is doing economically because the general assembly refused to go along with the spendthrifts and wealth re-distributors.
And the other thing is Democrats are as rigid as they come. You haven’t heard them bending on their “soak the rich” philosophy.
“Look at how well Virginia is doing economically because the general assembly refused to go along with the spendthrifts and wealth re-distributors.”
Of course, the truth is that Virginia is doing well 1) BECAUSE of all the government spending that occurs in the state; and 2) BECAUSE it accepted billions in federal stimulus money. And it’s doing well DESPITE a bad decision to McDonnell et al to borrow money $600 million from its employees pensions, which even Del. Bob Marshall criticoized at Saturday’s debate.
Odd that one of the nuts talks about “holding off the nuts”. Typical though. Suzie you just proved that the reason you need to stay anonymous is that you are an embarrassment to yourself, your hub’s business, and some days, mankind. You spend so much time back pedaling and blowing it out your…ear, that whatever you have left is just angry drivel. Michael is 150 times the better representative for conservatives and the GOP than you will or could ever be. He also has two things you will never attain: credibility and integrity. You cannot buy those, but I am betting you already know that.
New name old game,,,but
its the real deal. Satire Based on Generalizations.
There is no more apt name.
Now if I could just find a good pic of
a screaming Howler Monkey.
The rigidity that has held this nation hostage for the past three years is nothing to admire. The art of good governance is compromise to keep things productive and the ability to not be rigid and punitive, two of Suzie’s strongest traits. Again, even in politics there is a difference in rigidity and being principled. If by some miracle, Romney wins and has a contrary Congress too, you will soon see the wisdom of what I am saying and be all to glad to call them on it. Oddly enough, there are times when you can see the truth, but only when it is the Dems in the wrong. Shocking, I know.
FWIW, my advice to Michael on rigidity was not political, or about politics. He was smart enough to see that. No surprise that you do not though.
“The left has a very hard time with this. We need to set a good example for them, in my opinion.”
Michael H, that sounds so condescending.
#152 As we all know, there would be no need whatsoever to take suzie’s posts out of context or lie about them. She already does enough lying and taking out of context. She has to remain anonymous because most of her “friends” or business associates (if there are indeed any such people) would be absolutely appalled at her racist remarks, blasphemy, and complete lack of manners.
“I can predict what they’ll say on every issue before I see it.”
Even if true, so what? We can do the same with you. Heck, we can even list pretty much every one of the fall-back trolling lines you use when you need some more attention.
The art of good governance is compromise to keep things productive and the ability to not be rigid and punitive, two of Suzie’s strongest traits.
We saw how Democrats compromised on health care when they held a supermajority. Republicans weren’t even allowed to participate.
And I don’t see you compromise on anything, lambchop.
Of course, the truth is that Virginia is doing well 1) BECAUSE of all the government spending that occurs in the state;
Oh, snap. Maryland has a higher percentage of federal workers than VA. It’s unemployment rate is a full point higher.
The MD-VA comparison is SO handy when it comes to the “federal help” argument. Two states. Side by side. One smartly managed by conservatives; the other screwed by liberals.
Thank you Sandi as I have said although we often disagree your post are well written and well researched. I really have to think before I respond and make myself look stupid.
155. Monkey Misinformation Troll – “Rigidity can be a good thing if it means holding off the nuts.” Sexual innuendo coming from a strict Catholic?
#163 A FULL percentage point!!!!! Wow. Reality is, both Virginia and Maryland benefit from the government. Period. And Virginia gets more than Maryland. Let’s look at the numbers from 2008.
The Top 5:
1. Virginia ($15,256 spent per capita)
2. Maryland ($13,829)
3. Alaska ($13,730).
4. Kentucky ($12,242)
5. New Mexico ($12,017)
Good lord, it’s so easy to show you for the dolt you are.
#162 “Republicans weren’t even allowed to participate.”
This lie is so worn out.
“The rigidity that has held this nation hostage for the past three years is nothing to admire. The art of good governance is compromise to keep things productive and the ability to not be rigid and punitive, two of Suzie’s strongest traits. Again, even in politics there is a difference in rigidity and being principled.If by some miracle, Romney wins and has a contrary Congress too, you will soon see the wisdom of what I am saying and be all to glad to call them on it. Oddly enough, there are times when you can see the truth, but only when it is the Dems in the wrong. Shocking, I know.”
Correct me if I am wrong Sandi, but are you not forgetting the fact that Obama had the luxury of a Democratic controlled house and senate for the first two years of his Presidency?
Do you not remember much of that was wasted forcing through a health care bill that even those in his party had a hard time swallowing?
You can blame Republicans and the Tea Party for any “gridlock” that has taken place in the last year and a half, but the first two years you can blame on the ignorance and infighting of the Democratic Party. For the first two years there was not a “contrary” congress, at least in political affiliation.
RJB, wine just came out my nose. Poor iPad!
Big Momma, you are confusing a “majority” with actual control. Never a good idea. In a Congress that has made everything about the “super majority”, control of Congress is as misleading as your post.
“You can blame Republicans and the Tea Party for any “gridlock” that has taken place in the last year and a half, but the first two years you can blame on the ignorance and infighting of the Democratic Party. For the first two years there was not a “contrary” congress, at least in political affiliation.”
Most of BM’s drivel is silly and slow-witted, but she’s mostly correct about this, The chicken-hearted Democrats should have pushed through an income tax increase on the top 1 percent earners when they had the chance. They didn’t, and Pelosi, Hoyer and Reid deserve the blame for that.
“Obama had the luxury of a Democratic controlled house and senate”
BM conveniently forgets the filibuster and Joe Lieberman.
The chicken-hearted Democrats should have pushed through an income tax increase on the top 1 percent earners when they had the chance. They didn’t, and Pelosi, Hoyer and Reid deserve the blame for that.
Not only did they not pass a tax increase. They extended the Bush tax cuts. So did 0bama. They agreed with the Tea Party. And this is with the near supermajority in place. LOL
“Not only did they not pass a tax increase. They extended the Bush tax cuts. So did 0bama. They agreed with the Tea Party. And this is with the near supermajority in place.”
Ka-ching! More money for NARAL, PP, the Obama campaign and the Catholic abuse victims fund.
The Dems failure to pass a tax increase (they had no supermajority) was what cost them the House in 2010. That wasn’t a Tea Party victory — it was a loss of faith in the Dems. If they find their way and do the right thing, they’ll get their majority back.
The Dems failure to pass a tax increase (they had no supermajority) was what cost them the House in 2010.
Right. The voters were so angry those Democrats didn’t pass a tax increase, they kicked them all out an gave 63 seats to people who promised not to —-increase taxes.
Folks, this bears out my assertion to Michael Howdyshell that libs like Dan don’t give their ‘opinions’ one ounce of thought. They just repeat what they’ve been told to say even when it makes not one whit of sense.
Good grief Dan, how mu h tax is enough? Do you propose confiscating every dollar folks make over 250,000? Would that make you happy?. Why do you want to raises taxes on Anyone? Why nit cut spending and taxes for all.
Like most sensible people on this question, I’m in favor of sensible tax increases + sensible spending cuts. The most sensible tax increases are those on the highest earners. But I don’t advocate taking away every or even most dollars earned after $250K. Nobody who’s in favor of tax increases on the rich does, btw.
The two upper tax breackets are 33 and 35 percent. Those should be raised to 38 and 40, and there should be an additional surtax on income above $1 million — something like 5 percent more.
Such taxes won’t hurt the economy.
Like most sensible people on this question, I’m in favor of sensible tax increases
Why would you pile even more burden on the shoulders of those who already do almost all the heavy lifting? If we have to increase taxes, I would recommend making some of the 47% freeloaders who don’t pay diddly squat to at least make a contribution.
But the best solution is to cut the hell out of the unnecessary social spending, and then lower taxes for the heavy lifters.
Funny, I compared percent of federal employees per state. Nothing to do with your post. Duh.
But let me guess. You kooks count ‘federal spending’ to include government contracts made with private companies like Northrop Grumman. But then if you do that, you have to ask yourself why Northrup Grumman chose to locate Virginia instead of Maryland. And it all has to do with the low tax structure…e.g..good fiscal management from conservatives vs sh*tty mismanagement by liberals.
Way, way more federal money is spend in Virginia than in Maryland. Most third-graders understand that.
It’s why the Virginia economy is doing so good. It would be doing even better if the state government was in the hands of people who are sensible, rather than kooks who want to mandate ultrasounds for women who don’t want to be pregnant.
“The most sensible tax increases are those on the highest earners. ”
Not true. The most sensible tax increases are on the people who don’t pay federal income taxes. That would generate the most money and give them a chance to participate in the revenue process.
The highest earners can afford the CPA’s and lawyers to avoid the tax increases.
“The most sensible tax increases are on the people who don’t pay federal income taxes. That would generate the most money and give them a chance to participate in the revenue process.”
Not true. Taxes on low-wage earners taxes away money that would be directly spent in the economy, and it hurts the recovery. New taxes on the the highest incomes does neither.
Dan, I agree with Suzi 100%. Pray tell how a 5%meeting venality on incomes over a million is anywhere near fair. No one of any income level should pay nearly half of what they make in taxes, that is absurd.
#179 Northrup Grumman? You man that company that was given all kinds of sweetheart incentives and that can’t seem to get the state’s IT system running right or on budget despite taxpayers giving them billions of dollars?? One of those private companies that ALWAYS does things better?
This is a great contrast between liberal and conservative philosophy. Conservatives want to shrink Government and have all pay less taxes. Liberals on the other hand want to increase the size of Givermemt and penalize the producers ti fund it. I know this is true just read the blogs from the libs and all the additional Government spending to take care of the folks. Why not let the folks keep more of THEIR money and take care of themselves.
One way to increase revenues would be to fund the IRS adequately enough to catch more tax cheats. Every dollar spent on enforcement is returned many times over.
Just curious Michael Howdyshell but what percentage of your company’s revenue comes from government contracts?
Good question Dan, 90% for necessary government buildings. Most of what we do is renovations, much needed, of existing buildings and most are State not Federal
I am calling BS! First of all, does it not even register with you that saying “The highest earners can afford the CPA’s and lawyers to avoid the tax increases” is admitting that the tax structure is broken and unfair? I know nuance is not a conservative thing, but that is in neon FGS!
Few of the people in the brackets for 35% tax actually PAY 35% tax for just that reason. The rest of us pay our full freight because we cannot hire the tax lawyers and accountants to “get creative”, nor can we “hide” money in other countries and all the other bells and whistles that are available in this deliberately complicated and unfair tax system.
Knowing, or at least not being able to refute that, you still think that taking more from the working class and the working poor is the answer? That is so stupid, on so many levels that it is hard to fathom. If a working poor family is already on food stamps and Medicaid, how the hell is taking more money from them going to benefit the nation? Do you really not see the vicious cycle of perpetual poverty we already have? To the point that you want to make it worse even? What is wrong with someone who defends the rich cheating and scorns the poor for skating?
Michael, obviously Henry does not want to “have all pay less taxes”.
The contractors, vendors and business at the government teat are hardly all or even most “liberal companies” run by liberal people so stop with the lie that is the conservative meme. EVERY Republican in modern history has “grown” the government and the debt/deficit. You all TALK about “shrinking”, you just never do it. You all TALK about opportunity, you just never get around to making it a reality. Your businesses are happy to be “on the dole” for public dollars to sustain you, for tax credits and incentives to bribe you and for tax deductions and evasions to assuage you, but woe to the poor person who gets a dime in services, aid or even food and shelter.
You “create jobs” to make money, not for any other reason and the system now has to bribe you to do that. You like the unfair tax structure that rewards gambling and penalizes actual labor, not because you are in that realm, but because you dream of being there.
There’s a business owner I’m well acquainted with who lives on a 25-acre estate in NoVa and drives a Maserati. He has a theater in his home (and a popcorn machine in the theater’s lobby) a salt-water swimming pool and more. He’s as right-wing as they come, watches only Fox News, loves the Tea Party. He’s vowed to cancel all his company’s health insurance and pay the ACA “fine” rather than keep his highly educated workers insured. He is anti-tax increase, and believes the government should only cut, cut, cut.
And almost 100 percent of his revenue comes from the federal government. He doesn’t seem to realize that what he advocates could very well spell his company’s demise.
He could pay 2 percent more on the portion of his adjusted income above $250,000 (and perhaps 5 percent more on income above $1 million, if he has any in that bracket) and keep his company. Or he could pay nothing more and lose it.
Now that’s principle for you!
Few of the people in the brackets for 35% tax actually PAY 35% tax for just that reason. The rest of us pay our full freight because we cannot hire the tax lawyers and accountants to “get creative”, nor can we “hide” money in other countries and all the other bells and whistles that are available in this deliberately complicated and unfair tax system.
Babe, when you are pulling 19 grand a year and filing the E-Z form, there just ain’t that many ways to “get creative”. Leftwingers just cannot seem to understand, you can only get significant tax breaks if you pay significant taxes.
Dan has repeatedly said the tax brackets are fair because everyone in each bracket pays the same rate. He says this in response to folks who complain the rich pay too high a percentage.
But then he gets quite defensive when someone applies this same logic to tax cuts for the top brackets, that tax cuts for the rich are fair because everyone within that same bracket gets the same break. Dan changes his “logic” then. He says “it’s not the same thing”.
Funny how that works. LOL.
You’re saying the government could do it better than NG? Obviously not, or it wouldn’t be farmed out. LOL.
NG promised something it could not deliver. The state was better off before they got involved.
I’m wondering if we should surcharge ourselves for every post in which she gives herself an LOL.
#193 The state apparently WAS doing better from what I’ve heard. The NG system has really stunk, so then they demanded hundreds of millions more to make it “better.”
Michael & others,
Conservatives don’t want government to be reduced, they want it to be more efficient. They want government that is more about results and less about smaller government. They also demand that elected officials demonstrate accountability to and respect for taxpayers. Those comments are not mine but are those made by Frank I. Luntz in an article “Five Myths about conservative voters” published April 27 in the Washington Post.
When you talk about reducing the deficits and possibly increasing taxes there are also a number of things to consider in my view. First, the share of federal spending caused by the direct provision of domestic government services represents approximately 10% of federal spending & 2% of GDP. Shrinking the size of government and cutting the budget for these services will have little if any impact on the deficit. On the other hand Transfers & payments to persons & state and local governments constitute about 70% of federal spending. Defense spending currently accounts for about 20% of federal spending. As the late Jesse James said, I rob banks because that’s where the money is. If we want to cut spending you have to go where the expenditures are. Some of those are actual expenditures but many are tax expenditures. However, even making cuts in this area may also create unintended consequences. Federal government expenditures provide about 20% of all revenue for state and local governments. Thus cuts there will ripple down the stairway.
There are, in my view, a number of options available. First, I think the amount of income subject to social security and medicare tax needs to be increased substantially. I also think the age at which persons receive full benefits should be adjusted upward. Just taking the income subject to tax to about $200K would resolve most of the income challenges for Social Security/Medicare for something like 75 years. That gives us time to readjust how we handle retirement funding for elderly and health care for that same group. I’m somewhat of a promisekeeper in that I believe that, for good or bad, we’ve made a promise to even those in their 20s & 30 today on Social Security/Medicare. We can make a different commitment to those who would be served at the end of this century and beyond.
Second, I think our entire tax code, for individuals & corporations, needs to be revised. We have to have honest and frank discussions about which tax expenditures need to be retained and which should be given up. The code needs to sufficiently simplified to eliminate the need to use tax accountants to do our taxes. (Sorry Richard) Corporations pay lower tax rates today because they hire really good tax accountants to take advantage of gaps/incentives in the code. We need to get rid of most of those incentives. Doing so will result, I believe, in lower but fairer rates for everyone.
Farming it out does not necessarily mean that NG could do it better. It just measns that the philosophy of our Republican dominated government is to privatize more and more of our needed services in orderm to provide more profits to big businesses and giant corporations. They could care less whether the service is improved.
Suzi 178 I agree 100%! Great post and accurate.
Our system eventually weeds out business’s that don’t consistently improve the products and services it offers. I can tell you the Government agencies we work for are very demanding and have high expectations for quality goods and services. I certainly can’t speak for all conservatives but I understand and agree Government has a very necessary role in regulating business, providing necessary services and yes Sandi helping the less fortunate and underprivileged. Sandi, I think God this country has people like you that will literally give needy folks the shirt off their backs, you are truly a good person. We can all do more as the economy improves and there is more money to go around.
Dave see 197 more efficient
Since you two are so copacetic on the issue, can you explain why the people who get the most income out of the nation should NOT pay the most taxes? Those “shoulders” of the 1% are are lot of things but “burdened” is not one of them.
And what exactly do you think those “47% freeloaders who don’t pay diddly squat” are going to do when the help they depend on is withdrawn? People with actual skills and a desire to work cannot find jobs or make more money and yet you have it all figured out.
Cutting “the hell out of the unnecessary social spending”, “unnecessary” in YOUR opinion of course, will resort in a real and true “burden” on the “heavy lifters” and you will deserve it. For all your money, you people cannot buy a clue.
If anything, the mentality of some people and the pols they elect has caused government workers at all levels to feel the fear and “justify their jobs” at every possible juncture and it has made working with the government, from calling and asking a question to getting a permit, harder, longer and less satisfying. This divisive, name calling, condemning political ideology of punishing the poor and working class for being poor and working class will not end well either.
12-15% income tax on a million in gambling versus 30% income tax on 400K is indefensible. It just is.
If more efficient, more streamlined, more responsive and more accountable is what they want, why do they only and constantly say “smaller”? Especially given that no modern GOP President or Congress has attempted much less delivered that. Not even Saint Reagan.
And BTW, what fool would NOT be for more efficient, more streamlined, more responsive and more accountable government? Why is there an insane notion that we like the debt or the deficits? Have we not admitted that deep and painful cuts have to happen as well as increased revenue? Were we not yelling our lungs out BEFORE the recession hit over this issue? Only to be assured “deficits don’t matter”? Now, a Dem has the White House and a recession has brought home 30+ years of bad decisions and suddenly it matters to you too. Sorry Ron, I think you are running interference with an alternate universe that Suzie et al is not a part of.
“Our system eventually weeds out business’s that don’t consistently improve the products and services it offers.”
Sure, that’s why they outsource to Malaysia.
Who are you and what have you done with Michael?
Conservatives don’t want government to be reduced, they want it to be more efficient.
Of course Liberal Ron has no idea what conservatives want or how we think.
Thanks, Michael. It’s usually the type of post that gets trashed.
Name is required
A valid email is required (firstname.lastname@example.org)
Comment is required
Your email address will not be published.All fields are required to comment.
Fri, 06 Dec 2013 21:05:39 +0000
Metro Columnist Dan Casey knows a little bit about a lot of things but not a heck of a lot about most things. That doesn't keep him from writing about them, however. So keep him honest!
He welcomes your rants, raves and considered opinions, so long as the language is civil (i.e. no four-letter words). He'll read all your posts and may or may not respond.