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“We must find new lands from which we can easily obtain raw materials and at the same time exploit the cheap slave labor that is available from the natives of the colonies. The colonies would also provide a dumping ground for the surplus goods produced in our factories.”
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  1. gdad | April 22, 2012 at 10:40 am

    Saw a piece this morning on Levon Helm and was reminded that he was one of the great rock and rollers of all time. And one of the most influential drummers ever. His recovery from throat cancer and subsequent three Grammys (one of them playing and singing with his daughter) was an incredible inspirational story for all.

    Turd Nugent, OTOH, is nothing but a talentless, brainless gun nut. Glad to see him get slapped into place on his most recent craziness, although I’m sure we’ll see idiotic gunslinging from him.

  2. Mike24141 | April 22, 2012 at 11:09 am

    Agree on Levon; I used to drum in a band and was always amazed at those rare few that did vocals while they played – much more difficult than it appears. Levon’s emotion always did it for me, be it “Ophelia” at the Ryman last year or “The Night They Drove Old DIxie Down” in The Last Waltz, you knew the man truly loved to sing and play. However, I have to disagree a bit on Ted Nugent – I don’t argue the stupidity of his remarks, but he is a heck of a guitar player. Also, he was a member of Damn Yankees and donated his time to play several “welcome home” concerts when we got back from Desert Storm in 1991. A masochist with narcissistic tendancies, yes – talentless? my opinion is no.

  3. Lynda K | April 22, 2012 at 11:19 am

    IMHO Ted Nugent has only one thing going for him… his talent.
    Without that, he’d be just another tiny, insignificant voice in the wind.

  4. gdad | April 22, 2012 at 11:58 am

    OK, maybe not completely talentless but his music never was my cup of tea. And I’m glad to hear he donated his time to the troops.

    Lynda, I saw on another thread that you thought you saw my wife and me walking one night. I didn’t know we lived near you.

  5. Lynda K | April 22, 2012 at 12:11 pm

    gdad… I do believe we now live close. (We moved last fall)

    I’m not a heavy metal fan myself, either. I used to say I like any genre of music except country but, over the years, I have developed an appreciation for the art of story telling in a good ole’ country tune. The best ones involve drinking, pick-up trucks, huntin’ dogs, and cheatin’!

    I almost wrote a country song once. I got as far as the title: “Bugs on my windshield and you in my heart”. I need to get working on that!

  6. gdad | April 22, 2012 at 12:18 pm

    #5 Great title!

    As old-fashioned as this sounds, we’re still in the phone book, so you can actually look up where we live.

  7. Dan Casey | April 22, 2012 at 12:19 pm

    One of my favorite country songs is “Far Away Eyes” by the Rolling Stones.

  8. Lynda K | April 22, 2012 at 12:26 pm

    gdad… Looked you up. You’re about 3.5 blocks from us!

  9. gdad | April 22, 2012 at 12:33 pm

    #7 I ran 20 red lights in his honor.

  10. gdad | April 22, 2012 at 12:37 pm

    Speaking of rock and roll, I read recently that London Olympics organizers asked The Who if Keith Moon would participate in Olympics ceremonies.

    Moon was one guy who did indeed self-destruct. Levon Helm most certainly did NOT.

  11. Lynda K | April 22, 2012 at 12:41 pm

    Never heard that Stones song before. It’s a good one!

    But that’s not REALLY country…

    Try these country wonders:

    http://youtu.be/iFq6eZBS1iM

    http://youtu.be/xZhT5ZNyHlM

    http://youtu.be/LL9O0B0gzZE

  12. Mike24141 | April 22, 2012 at 12:46 pm

    Saw the Stones play Girl With Far Away Eyes in Nashville sometime in the mid-90s… that is one of those moments in life that you just don’t forget.

    I’m an “all kinds” of music person, but I do have to say that the hip-hop/rap songs that I like are few and far between. I can go from Glen Miller to Metallica to Ralph Stanley at any moment…

    While Ketih Moon’s style and fills were one of a kind, I’ll stick with Rongo Starr’s assesment of Levon – he was simply the best. Sort of like Charlie Watts – you don’t really appreciate him until you see him play and hear the sounds he can get out of a 5-piece set.

  13. Mike24141 | April 22, 2012 at 12:48 pm

    Sorry for the typos… a combination of strep and pink-eye is to blame…

  14. dave | April 22, 2012 at 1:11 pm

    Dan

    Heard Bruce Springsteen do “Jack of All Trades” on Late Night the other night. I really like that one.

  15. dave | April 22, 2012 at 1:14 pm

    Great news this weekend! The Republic is saved! The Constitutional Party has nominated Virgil Goode for President! Made me thirsty for some apple pie brandy!

  16. scott whitaker | April 22, 2012 at 6:42 pm

    An interesting comparison between Obama and Romney on environmental issues. It appears Romney is rather hard to figure as he now has changed stances on many of the issues. As a Governor he: wanted to crackdown on polluting coal plants, was opposed to suspending the gas tax at a time of a spike in the price of gas but now is in favor of it, is opposed to green energy funding now but was in favor of it then, was in favor of CAFE standards then, opposed now and so on. Apparently he was somewhat progressive as a Governor on the environment but now he’s “seriously conservative.”

    http://grist.org/election-2012/happy-earth-day-mitt/

    http://grist.org/election-2012/how-obama-and-romney-compare-on-energy-issues/

  17. Art Hill | April 22, 2012 at 7:46 pm

    “The Constitutional Party has nominated Virgil Goode for President!”

    Can’t wait for the debates. WHAT did he say??

  18. Sandi Saunders | April 22, 2012 at 7:48 pm

    I agree Dave, I cried so hard I could not see to drive the first time I heard The Boss do “Jack of all Trades”. It truly speaks to workers in this nation (as does the whole “Wrecking Ball” CD).

    Virgil Goode is so stupid he said there was little distinction between Romney and Obama. He is the perfect candidate for the right wingers on this blog.

  19. dobbs | April 22, 2012 at 7:59 pm

    Mike @ #12
    About 20 years ago I visited a girl I knew in Portland, OR. The student center at her college had a pool hall with a CD jukebox. Something like 15 plays for a dollar. It was a very diverse school and thus had a very diverse jukebox. So I put my dollar in and picked everything from Les Paul to Funkadelic, Jefferson Airplane to Public Enemy, Bill Monroe to Frank Zappa. And the best part was that no one complained.

  20. Kristen | April 22, 2012 at 8:08 pm

    Art that was my first response when I heard of his nomination. I heard a radio ad of his once and literally understood not one word besides his name. And that’s because someone repeated his name afterwards so I had a hint.

  21. Dave Hicks | April 22, 2012 at 11:50 pm

    http://tinyurl.com/86c3fkq

    **
    Work Hard, Pray Hard

    Do Muslim Americans embody the Protestant work ethic better than their Protestant counterparts?

    BY JOSHUA E. KEATING | MAY/JUNE 2012

    In his classic work, The Protestant Ethic and the Spirit of Capitalism, German sociologist Max Weber argued that early Protestants were uniquely suited to build the foundations of European capitalism thanks to their religious values, which prioritized hard work over spiritual contemplation and eternal salvation.

    SNIP

    In a paper recently published in the Journal of Business Ethics, Yavuz Fahir Zulfikar conducted a survey of a sample group of Americans of different faiths to measure attitudes toward pride in work, profit, and upward striving. He found that Protestants and Catholics had nearly identical average scores, but Muslims ranked more than 5 points higher (65 out of a maximum 95). The study follows similar research, with similar results, from Britain, Ireland, and Turkey.

    SNIP
    **

  22. Dave Hicks | April 22, 2012 at 11:54 pm

    http://tinyurl.com/887fymt

    **
    The Enemy Within

    Since the end of the Cold War, America has been on a relentless search for enemies. But the real dangers are at home.

    BY DAVID ROTHKOPF | MAY/JUNE 2012

    The United States is a bit like a 375-pound, middle-aged man with a heart condition walking down a city street at night eating a Big Mac. He’s sweating profusely because he’s afraid he might get mugged. But the thing that’s going to kill him is the burger.

    Since the end of the Cold War, America has been on a relentless search for enemies. I don’t mean a search in the sense of ferreting them out and defeating them. I mean that America seems to have a visceral need for them.

    SNIP
    **

  23. dave | April 23, 2012 at 12:09 am

    Kristen and Art

    I think one of the first major expenditures of his campaign will be to hire an interpreter to travel with him and translate his speeches for the public. He might get by without one in parts of Franklin County and some of East Tennessee. :)

  24. Art Hill | April 23, 2012 at 2:15 am
  25. Art Hill | April 23, 2012 at 2:56 am

    Republicans think the Secret Service should drink lemonade and read Bible verses while on assignment. Perhaps the agents should resign and run for Congress to become more acceptable. Jobs, morons, jobs.

  26. Pistol Pete | April 23, 2012 at 8:26 am

    Dave Hicks, I would work hard too at my job if one goal of my religion was to take over the world. They are also having 6 children per family in Europe and Muslim communities in the US.

  27. Warren | April 23, 2012 at 9:52 am

    Since the end of the Cold War, America has been on a relentless search for enemies…America seems to have a visceral need for them.
    (Pasted by Dave Hicks)

    (Muslims) are also having 6 children per family in Europe and Muslim communities in the US.
    (Comment by Pistol Pete)

    Large families as a religious tenet…Then the LDS must also be a really big threat to America, right, PP?

  28. scott whitaker | April 23, 2012 at 10:07 am

    #26 Sounds like they could use some contraceptives eh? Oh but why should they? Between the 2 of them, Cuccinelli and McDonnell have 12 children. Clearly if it is okay for the elected AG of a state to have 7 kids, why can’t someone else?

  29. Sandi Saunders | April 23, 2012 at 10:15 am

    One goal of your religion WAS to “take over the world”. Do you not know history or, like Suzie, conveniently ignore the parts that don’t fit your narrative Pistol? It was not Muslim missionaries that went all over the world conquering and converting in the first place. Get on the high ground before you start preaching.

  30. scott | April 23, 2012 at 10:18 am

    PP, please. and this is different from Christianity how? Ever heard of the Crusades? Or go to any church in the Roanoke Valley?

    They were trying to convert people at my grandfather’s funeral. Sickening.

  31. Sandi Saunders | April 23, 2012 at 10:19 am

    I don’t think it is America that is looking for enemies, I think it is the people who NEED to keep America diverted and not paying attention that pump up the slightest affront and exploit the whiff of a fight. As long as we are concentrated on Iraq, The EuroZone, Sudan, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iran, Muslims, Immigrants, The war on Christians, et al, we are not looking at Wall Street, Corporations, The political supermarket, the unfair tax structures, Justice system, and workers losing more ground every day. It is a well known and documented panacea.

  32. Kristen | April 23, 2012 at 10:34 am

    If you have concerns about people with big families taking over the world, google “Quiverful”. It’s basically a white supremacist fundamentalist movement to which the Duggar’s suscribe. You have 10+ kids, then you “homeschool” which is basically a home-run daycare in which your older kids raise their younger sibs while Mom endlessly gestates. What you end up with is a pack of DNA-diminished illiterates who couldn’t spell “CAT” if they were spotted the C and the A.

    Not only is this apparently legal in this country, we put it on TV. Ridiculous.

  33. Suzie | April 23, 2012 at 11:00 am

    f you have concerns about people with big families taking over the world

    Hon, not every large family turns out like Bobby and Ethel’s 11. OD deaths, drunken ski accidents, molesting underage babysitters, and serial philandering. Clearly the clan was awash with drugs and booze Conservative families general have rules and discipline. Like Bob Mac’s and Ken’s.

  34. Sandi Saunders | April 23, 2012 at 11:04 am

    But Kristen, they are the “right” kind of over population that they support. Get with the program, this is about those scary brown people, not those religious fanatics.

  35. Henry | April 23, 2012 at 11:21 am

    “white supremacist fundamentalist movement”

    Proof please. All I saw was a movement where people don’t use birth control, similar to large swaths of Latin America and Muslim countries.

    “DNA-diminished illiterates”

    I don’t think you understand how DNA works if you think women dilute DNA by having more kids.

  36. Kristen | April 23, 2012 at 11:40 am

    Henry,google Kathryn Joyce. Shes done a lot of investgation and reporting on the Quiverful people and had said that one of the underlying motivations of the movement is to counteract the childbirth rates of non-white cultures and a lot about the diminished birthrates in Europe. In which case “Europe ” is code for “white”.

    As for the DNA…I know how it works. But these people have tons of websites and blogs and he proof is in the pudding. Maybe because the mothers continue breeding way the heck into their 40s.

  37. Dave Hicks | April 23, 2012 at 11:50 am

    Re: Comment by Pistol Pete — April 23, 2012 @ 8:26 am — and a number of replies

    ———

    It seems that PP has a bad case of the “fundamental attribution error” as ID in social psychology.

  38. scott whitaker | April 23, 2012 at 12:11 pm

    #35 We have been told repeatedly by your candidates Henry that the use of contaceptives is “harmful to women” and that the use of same should be allowed to be banned by government entities. Yet somehow you find it abhorrent that “large swaths” of other countries do not use them. Could you explain please? Again I would like to point out that the example set by 2 of our state politicians, people you and most conservatives in this state voted for, average 6 children apiece.

  39. gdad | April 23, 2012 at 12:20 pm

    #35 So, Henry, are you saying that after women pass a certain age, the chances of having a child with physical or mental infirmities don’t go up?

  40. Henry | April 23, 2012 at 1:24 pm

    So you are saying that women over certain age are “breeding DNA-diminished illiterates”. I’ll wait patiently for your back-pedal.

    “We have been told repeatedly by your candidates Henry that the use of contaceptives is “harmful to women” and that the use of same should be allowed to be banned by government entities.”
    Never heard that from my candidates. Are you sure you didn’t dream that?

  41. Kristen | April 23, 2012 at 3:12 pm

    Um….I’m not backpeddling anything. So continue to wait patiently or otherwise.

  42. Pistol Pete | April 23, 2012 at 3:24 pm

    I agree with contraception use….

    by liberals.

  43. gdad | April 23, 2012 at 3:39 pm

    #40 So you never supported Santorum, Henry?

  44. Sandi Saunders | April 23, 2012 at 3:50 pm

    #42 is Exhibit A. Nuff Said.

  45. scott whitaker | April 23, 2012 at 7:40 pm

    Henry, I’m going to assume you supported Santorum, though I doubt you or any conservative will ever reveal whom you truly support. Santorum is (was)unequivocally opposed to use of contraceptives. Gingrich supports the Catholic Church’s stance on abortion which as we know is also opposed to contraceptive use. Paul is in favor of allowing states to ban birth control. Typically, because he is a moving target, Romney is harder to pin down on the issue; one moment he does not support the Blunt amendment, the next he does. The problem of course is all of these candidates are also opposed to abortion. I truly cannot fathom the belief system that opposes contraceptive use and abortion, yet that’s what the Republicans offer. And that is why the single largest voting bloc, women, will vote against the republican nominee.

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