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“I dropped out of college my junior year to do Saturday Night Live, and I didn’t even consult my parents. They were very supportive because they had no choice.”
Julia Louis-Dreyfus
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Estimates are that Ms. Dreyfus had made a couple hundred million during her acting career so dropping out of college, for her, was probably a good choice. In addition to her own earning power, she is the heiress to an estimated $3 billion estate upon her father’s death. Pretty good backup if needed.
Sorry for the spelling error in the first sentence of my earlier post. The word should be “has” not “had.”
Yeah Ron, it’s easy to walk out on your education when you’ve got the Dreyfus money to fall back on. It wasn’t a huge risk for her.
I’ve known a couple people who walked out of their high school or college educations who became very successful, but they have been exceptions rather than the norm…mainly because the deck is stacked against people most times in our modern economy. But it can happen, just not easily.
One guy had to get his GED while in juvie for auto theft, then he got a low-level construction job. Took a transfer to Russia for a major project there, travelled a lot for his work, and got to a superintendent level position, and was able to buy a nice waterfront condo in downtown Hampton. Not too shabby after doing a lot to set himself back early in life.
Another guy graduated high school and kept working for the same fast food chain he started as a cashier in. He worked up to a shift manager, then an assistant manager, learning all the operations of the place. A few years later he became a store manager. Not long after that he moved into regional management. Now he’s either part or full-owner of several restaurants in the franchise chain.
The common denominator for both was they were willing to start at the very bottom and do what it took to advance and work into higher levels. There’s not enough of those kinds of opportunities for everyone, but they can happen for some folks.
This is pretty incredible. Monkey Boy has wasted $90 billion on so-called “green” jobs. That vast amount of money has produced only 16,100 jobs, meaning each green job has cost taxpayers $5.5 million per.
You could have given one million people $90,000 for that amount.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/05/green-disaster-obama-is-spending-5-5-million-per-green-energy-job/
I don’t care if you’re republican, democrat, black, white, male, or female; you can’t possibly think this idiot is competent and deserves re-election.
Great article reprinted in the RT, today. If you don’t read the hard copy read the whole thing here:
http://tinyurl.com/7ayw7fe
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Congress isn’t just stalemated, it’s broken, experts say
By David Lightman | McClatchy Newspapers
WASHINGTON — Congress isn’t just stuck in partisan and ideological gridlock: It’s broken.
SNIP [to my favorite line]
The problem, experts say, is that the needs and tactics of political parties, not the acumen and strategies of legislators, now rule the congressional process.
SNIP
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Yup. It’s all about the “party” and getting reelected — not the country.
I don’t care if you’re republican, democrat, black, white, male, or female; you can’t possibly think this Wall Street Vulture is competent and deserves election.
In that showdown, Obama wins on every level. How many jobs did Romney destroy while he was a vulture? How much money did Romney make on other people’s pain and loss?
You cannot try to “put people to work” without having some failures in the mix. Ask Romney.
Quote in a 1971 Playboy interview from my favorite all time actor, John Wayne on being liberal.
“I know all about that. In the late Twenties, when I was a sophomore at USC, I was a socialist myself — but not when I left. The average college kid idealistically wishes everybody could have ice cream and cake for every meal. But as he gets older and gives more thought to his and his fellow man’s responsibilities, he finds that it can’t work out that way — that some people just won’t carry their load … I believe in welfare — a welfare work program. I don’t think a fella should be able to sit on his backside and receive welfare. I’d like to know why well-educated idiots keep apologizing for lazy and complaining people who think the world owes them a living. I’d like to know why they make excuses for cowards who spit in the faces of the police and then run behind the judicial sob sisters. I can’t understand these people who carry placards to save the life of some criminal, yet have no thought for the innocent victim.”
In that showdown, Obama wins on every level. How many jobs did Romney destroy while he was a vulture? How much money did Romney make on other people’s pain and loss?
I don’t know. Romney’s time at Bain saw a net gain of jobs. Idiot Boy’s tenure where he didn’t even use his own money has seen a net LOSS of jobs. Why aren’t you asking about the pain and suffering 0bama has caused despite wasting trillions of dollars of taxpayer money?
Great article reprinted in the RT, today.
Written for and by liberals. Nothing but a trashy political hit piece. You could tell because they 1) blamed Republicans for the deadlock, and 2) cited their ignoring of “science”. Those were the telltale giveaways.
Dave H doesn’t read between the lines or discern on his own, does he? That’s why he’s the perfect 0bama voter.
Sandi,
You are so wrng about Mr. Romney. He is a good man, but its a waste of time to try to get you to see beyond the way you view the world. Any chane you might stop attacking Mr. Romney? What in the world has he ever done to you?
No Michael, not a chance as long as he is lying and attacking Obama! And until he ran for President he did nothing to me, now he has insulted my intelligence too often to be ignored. Funny how you NEVER ask anyone to stop calling President Obama “Monkey boy” even. Son, you can’t help it. So leave me alone.
Oh and about that Playboy interview you loved…He was responding about Socialists not “liberals”:
“PLAYBOY: In your distaste for socialism, aren’t you overlooking the fact that many worthwhile and necessary government services—such as Social Security and Medicare—derived from essentially socialistic programs evolved during the Thirties?”
http://finestilliteracy.blogspot.com/2010/02/quotes.html?zx=2ff582e717e28507
Any chance you could learn that being liberal does not make you a Socialist?
Wanting to keep old, disabled, orphaned and unemployed people from being beggars in the street is not the same as upholding some lazy bum too sorry to work and support themselves. NONE of us support that. Never have. That is just the lie you all tell yourselves to fight back against the good we try to do and paying people a living wage.
http://www.geekosystem.com/40-hour-work-week-minimum-wage/
#11 You ARE aware, aren’t you, Michael, that Romney told Time that he really can’t reduce the budget all that fast because it would hurt the economy too much. Sounds like what some liberals have been saying.
BTW, great comeback by PH to make it exciting, although Will is right in that he shouldn’t have taken that last shot when he did. Problem is, if they had played decently in the first half they probably would have won. They were AWFUL. Now they probably get beaten solidly by Battlefield while Glass almost certainly beats North Stafford (for a comparison, N. Stafford just lost to Battlefield 19-5) easily to go to the semi-finals. It was an exciting season, but the takeaway to me is that the coach needs to instill more discipline and conditioning.
Our illustrious governor wants drones flying over Virginia…won’t that be fun? Maybe the Commonwealth could have its own Air Force too…
“Police drones flying over Virginia would be ‘great’ and ‘the right thing to do’ for the same reasons they are so effective in a battlefield environment, the state’s chief executive said Tuesday.”
“Virginia Gov. Bob McDonnell, a retired U.S. Army lieutenant colonel, says he is open to any technology that makes law enforcement more productive. The use of drones, which was recently endorsed by the police chiefs of Fairfax County and D.C., would make better use of valuable police resources. ”
http://wtop.com/120/2882193/Gov-Drones-over-Va-great-cites-battlefield-success
Michael,
I think Mitt Romney is an okay guy too. I think he’s pretty competant as well. I think he has some decent ideas. For example, I think he supports health care reform very much like what’s outlined in the Affordable Care Act. I also believe he’s not opposed to civil unions or gay marriage. I also believe he understands the only way to balance the budget is a combination of spending cuts and “revenue enhancements.” Last but not least I think he also is not opposed to a woman’s right to choose.
The problem I have with him is his honesty. You see he’s expressed support for all those things I outlined above in the not too distant past. However, as he has campaigned for the presidency in the run up to 2012, he has gone back on all those things. He did so in order to gain the support of the right wing conservatives of the Republican Party so that he could get the nomination. He compromised his basic beliefs to get the nomination. That says something about his character to me. It says he knew he couldn’t get the nomination without compromising his basic beliefs. That says to me that he is an opportunist who is more interested in serving himself that others.
I’m not overly happy with our current president either. That puts me in a quandary come November. In my home state I would have voted for Richard Lugar to be re-elected to the U.S. Senate, not because I support every position he takes or has taken, but because I ultimately believe he’s a man of character who can be trusted to make choices in the best interest of all the people in our country. I will not vote for Mr. Mourdock (Sourdough) this fall. I will vote for my current congressman Joe Donnelly (D) because he is a man of character who will ultimately make choices based upon the best interests of all people.
Mr. Romney is frightened to stand up and fight for what he truly believes, because he knows he wouldn’t still be in the race. If we elect him we will also elect a Republican Congress who take this country back to a time where we don’t want to be. In my view, it’s too bad you can’t see that.
Another scintillating example of the quality folks who make up thje Republican base.
http://news.yahoo.com/serpent-handling-west-virginia-pastor-dies-snake-bite-173406645–abc-news-topstories.html
“Police drones flying over Virginia would be ‘great’ and ‘the right thing to do’ for the same reasons they are so effective in a battlefield environment, the state’s chief executive said Tuesday.”
So he sees Virginia as being similar to a “battlefield”. Interesting.
gdad, about that discipline and conditioning. I have a few ideas where they could get that from.
Michael A. Howdyshell
Mitt Romney would have let the auto industry go bankrupt.
Mitt Romney thinks unemployment insurance is a disaster.
http://www.attackwatch.com/romney-team-compares-unemployment-aid-to-the-iceberg-that-hit-Titanic/
Mitt Romney wants to cut Medicare and Social Security benefits.
http://www.freep.com/article/20120224/NEWS15/120224034/Text-of-Mitt-Romney-s-speech-to-the-Detroit-Economic-Club
Mitt Romney wants to cut benefits on almost everyone who needs them.
http://thepage.time.com/2011/11/04/romney-proposes-spending-cuts-that-would-devastate-key-middle-class-programs-to-pay-for-tax-cuts-for-corporations-and-the-wealthy/
Romney prefers to finance even more tax cuts for the extremely wealthy.
http://thinkprogress.org/progress-report/new-romney-plan-even-more-tax-cuts-for-the-rich/?mobile=nc
In other words, Mitt Romney wants to impose austerity on pretty much everyone other than the very few who are in the economic class of Mitt Romney.
Romney’s advice to college students, “borrow money” from their parents to start a business! Advising students to go to parents who are struggling to pay for their children’s education indicates someone out of touch.
BTW, his son Tagg took his father’s advice, to the tune of $10 million – unfortunately most parents don’t have that type of money ‘just laying around’.
http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=20209572
This is the core of why Mitt Romney is not fit to govern
those who are not millionaires – the majority of the citizens in the US. Powerful people who control all the money are insisting on a Romney presidency. THEY want Mitt Romney. THEY want someone who understands the plight of the millionaire. THEY want someone who will lower their taxes even further. THEY want someone who understands that $374,000 is not a lot of money. And they will purchase their candidate because they have all the money, and they will spend whatever it takes to make him president.
The best candidate their money can buy…
Gdad, I was tied up yesterday and unable to see the finish. Wish we could go tomorrow, but Hunter has swim meet in Christiansburg! Great season can’t wait until next year. Hunter is playing U9 travel so we will have some Lacrosse to feed my addiction this summer. Maybe they get lucky against Battlefield.
Gdad, change in plans I think we are going tomorrow
#17 No kidding, Kristen. Some of us were discussing that very thing the other night.
Glad to see the good people of Giles came to their senses and saved their taxpayers a bunch of money. Good job, Giles County!
#19 I couldn’t make it for the finish, either, but the newspaper story described how it played out. Have a good trip if you go. I hope one day those boys of yours will be starring on the PH team.
Me to Gdad, they certainly love it, beat our house to death with Lacrosse Balls, already broke one window. I know buy a rebounder, we are.It is my new favorite sport, love everything about it. Anyone who says it’s not a tough sport is not very smart. The running and hitting, wow!
No No No Hillary, I agree with everything you said Mr. Romney stands for except that he will only help the supper rich. That is just not true. He will help everyone by giving folks a chance to be successful. Like I have said many times I will gladly take the chance, without a Government Safety net. If I fail I lose everything I have fine I understood the risk 11 years ago when we started our first business. In exchange for that risk this country offers a huge payoff potential. Mr. Obama, in my opinion is trying to make it harder and harder to do what we have and are doing. I will agree he is in favor of expanding the safety net. The point is I don’t want any Government safety net at all. I don’t think most people really do.
Favorite John Wayne Movie? Mine is “In Harms Way”.
Just saw a hilarious truncated headline on Yahoo. It read, “George W. Bush returns to White House for hanging of official…” I suppose the next word was going to be “portrait,” but that does sound like a reason W. (and definitely Dick Cheney) would go somewhere!
#25 [yikes!] Michael A. Howdyshell posted,
1. “Mr. Obama, in my opinion is trying to make it harder and harder to do what we have and are doing.”
Really, how?
2. “I will agree he is in favor of expanding the safety net. The point is I don’t want any Government safety net at all.”
Then please take Medicare for less than 5 years, which government actuaries have indicated is the extent of what average Americans contribute to this government program. Ask for the reimbursement of your contribution in one lump sum, and decline any other payments. And please carry your own insurance into old age and not use Medicare [another lump sum payment please], of which you will never have contributed enough to cover any major medical bills. In other words, put your money where your mouth is…
3. ” I don’t think most people really do.”
Given that most Americans don’t have a rich daddy like Willard M, Romney had in George Romney who then paid for “Mitt’s” entire education, those “middle income” Americans like to educate their children too – Pell Grants enable them to do so, or is higher education only for the wealthy?
I think that most Americans don’t enjoy poverty, but if they are stuck there, I believe they’d like to be able to feed their children. Should children go hungry? Are the “sins of their fathers” their sin of poverty too?
Why do you not think more of a young black male, from a single parent home, living with his white grandparents, who has the audacity to pull himself up by his “bootstraps” to make himself into something more than a bi-racial child from a “broken home” – who went to college, on to Harvard University – gave back to his community as a {dreaded} community organizer – rose to represent the people in Illinois – and finally became the first black [or any minority for that matter] President of the USA? Isn’t taking responsibility for one’s own fate, a bedrock conservative principle? Doesn’t the President fit that bill? Does Willard M. Romney? No, he started with the proverbial “silver spoon” [actually the entire set]…
“open to any technology that makes law enforcement more productive. “
Got to keep that stream of warm bodies coming for the prison-industrial complex.
Favorite John Wayne Movie? “The Shepherd of the Hills”
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0034182/
I watched “Randy Rides Alone” just the other night too.
I also loved “True Grit” and “McClintock” “…and somebody oughta belt you in the mouth. But I won’t, I won’t….“
So now we have Republican Officials dismissing the “birther’s” nonsense.
http://tinyurl.com/6mfycka
Dan,
You in the market for one of these?
http://tinyurl.com/dxwvrql
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Made in Africa: Bamboo bikes put Zambian business on right track
By Teo Kermeliotis, for CNN
(CNN) — In Zambia, bicycles are grown from the ground.
Making the most of the southern African country’s bamboo plants, two Americans and two Zambians have set up a company that is crafting high-end, lightweight bicycles with frames made out of the locally-grown wooden weed.
Dubbed Zambikes, the company is putting its custom-built Zambian bikes on roads around the world, offering pedal enthusiasts a unique ride while helping to empower local communities back home.
SNIP
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What do you think of the business model/plan?
Is this a “green” product you’d buy?
I listened to my fav E.J. Dionne on Stand Up (POTUS) on the way home today. He has a new book: http://www.amazon.com/Our-Divided-Political-Heart-Discontent/dp/1608192016/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1338502617&sr=1-1
He says that these folks who insist anyone is “self made” simply do not understand what America is about. The social safety nets are not in conflict with opportunity, freedom or responsibility. Read the preamble to the Constitution.
“We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.”
From the beginning we have been about “we”. We have always cared for the nation by caring for society, structure, education, justice, opportunity and freedom. He says we are always at our best when we balance individualism with “communitarianism”.
Remember Reagan’s words: “I’ve spoken of the shining city all my political life, but I don’t know if I ever quite communicated what I saw when I said it. But in my mind it was a tall proud city built on rocks stronger than oceans, wind-swept, God-blessed, and teeming with people of all kinds living in harmony and peace, a city with free ports that hummed with commerce and creativity, and if there had to be city walls, the walls had doors and the doors were open to anyone with the will and the heart to get here. That’s how I saw it and see it still.” He was borrowing from JFK in 1961…who was quoting from John Winthrop’s sermon, “A Model of Christian Charity”, which came from “the parable of Salt and Light in Jesus’ Sermon on the Mount”:
“Now the only way to avoid this shipwreck, and to provide for our posterity, is to follow the counsel of Micah, to do justly, to love mercy, to walk humbly with our God. For this end, we must be knit together, in this work, as one man. We must entertain each other in brotherly affection. We must be willing to abridge ourselves of our superfluities, for the supply of others’ necessities. We must uphold a familiar commerce together in all meekness, gentleness, patience and liberality. We must delight in each other; make others’ conditions our own; rejoice together, mourn together, labor and suffer together, always having before our eyes our commission and community in the work, as members of the same body. So shall we keep the unity of the spirit in the bond of peace. The Lord will be our God, and delight to dwell among us, as His own people, and will command a blessing upon us in all our ways, so that we shall see much more of His wisdom, power, goodness and truth, than formerly we have been acquainted with. We shall find that the God of Israel is among us, when ten of us shall be able to resist a thousand of our enemies; when He shall make us a praise and glory that men shall say of succeeding plantations, “may the Lord make it like that of New England.” For we must consider that we shall be as a city upon a hill. The eyes of all people are upon us. So that if we shall deal falsely with our God in this work we have undertaken, and so cause Him to withdraw His present help from us, we shall be made a story and a by-word through the world”
http://religiousfreedom.lib.virginia.edu/sacred/charity.html
I cannot fathom how the same people who insist in one thread that we are a nation based on Christian theology and in this thread insist that should have nothing to do with our pursuits as a nation. It simply does not compute!
Suzie, you are an ugly, racist cretin.
Romney now solidifying his lead against Idiot Boy. Leading in Ohio, Florida, Virginia, and NC. First time he has led in all 4 states. i’m thinking Pennsylania and Michigan will go Mitt’s way as well.
You recall McCain didn’t have the lead until September 4 when they announced Sarah. That lead, as we know, evaporated when the curiously timed “financial crisis” hit September 16.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll
The landslide victory is shaping up very nicely for Mitt.
Hillary,
I disagree completely with the direction Mr. Obama wants to take this country. I don’t think he has the experience necessary to be President and I really believe if President Obama is reelected we are headed for and another and worse recession than before, not that we have ever really recovered from the first one. In saying that you will never hear me attack President Obama personally and I applaud what he has accomplished in his life with hard work and determination. Mr. Romney simply has the greater experience which is necessary to get the country working again. Why is it ever business owner or company officer I talk to thinks President Obama is not good for business? What is not good for business cannot be good for the country as business employees most folks. I already can hear some of the response from certain folks, but I can tell you I talk to lots of people every day and they all tell me the same thing. This comes from black, white, young, old, men and women, all business owners or leaders in their companies. They are all scared to death of what a Obama second term will do to the economy. I’m sure there will be responses from business owners that support the direction the President wants to steer this country, but I don’t hear it from people I know, talk to or do business with. Again I don’t think President Obama is a bad man. Just because I disagree with his policies and vision for America does not mean I think he is a bad man. Why can’t Obama supporters give Mr. Romney the same respect. Oh yea since when is it a crime to be born into a wealth family or to be very successful financially?
Both great movies Sandi
Hillary
Do you understand how unemployment insurance works? It is a disaster. I know, employeers pay for in the rate we pay on the first 8,000 of every employees salary.
I’ve been reading a book about Woodrow Wilson recently and found some interesting quotes. It seems he really knew the problems with the Republicans more than a 100 years ago. We didn’t listen unfortunately.
“A conservative is a man who just sits and thinks, mostly sits.”
Woodrow Wilson
“A little group of willful men, representing no opinion but their own, have rendered the great government of the United States helpless and contemptible.”
Woodrow Wilson (Does this make you think of anyone in particular?)
“The government, which was designed for the people, has got into the hands of the bosses and their employers, the special interests. An invisible empire has been set up above the forms of democracy.”
(Do you think he knew where we were headed a century ago?)
Woodrow Wilson
“The trouble with the Republican party is that it has not had a new idea in 30 years. I’m not speaking as a politician but as a historian.”
Woodrow Wilson
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_romney_vs_obama-1171.html
Yes Suzie….Mittster is cleverly solidifying his lead by allowing Obama to hold a lead on him. Only some obscure polling group called “Mason-Dixon” shows Rmoney leading. Good work, Mitt…Amercia’s behind you!
Because, if they were ahead of you….you’d probably pick their pocket.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/2012_elections_electoral_college_map.html
My above link tells the only story that matters. It’s over for Rmoney.
Hillary
Simple question, if they are poor and can’t afford to feed themselves why do the have children? Read my quote from John Wayne
The Big Dog is going to Wisconsin.
Ron,
Here are a couple more that I like:
Interest does not tie nations together; it sometimes separates them. But sympathy and understanding does unite them. — Woodrow Wilson
America was established not to create wealth but to realize a vision, to realize an ideal – to discover and maintain liberty among men. — Woodrow Wilson
36 Agreed Michael,
There really is no area in which 0bama is more qualified than Romney. Not a single one. And that’s very rare for presidential candidates, because usually there’s something one does better than the other. That’s why I don’t think even a willing media can keep this thing from becoming a landslide.
Mason Dixon’s been around for quite awhile Kristen, at least since the 80s. They’re reputable.
Hilarious the wingnuts sudden infatuation with a candidate they were dissing just a few short months ago. “Romney…better than nothing.”
That might be the case Dan, but their results are a full 10 point swing even from Fox News in favor of Romney. I can’t imagine who they’re polling.
Hilarious the wingnuts sudden infatuation with a candidate they were dissing just a few short months ago. “Romney…better than nothing.”
When the least of the five GOP candidates is routing Idiot Boy, it says a lot more about Idiot Boy.
Although this fivesome was by far the best qualified group in American history.
“Qualified” is a relative term. Bush/Cheney was the most qualified administration in our nation’s history. Look where that got us. I think the idea that what is wrong with this nation has anything to do with Obama is pure right wing propaganda.
You conveniently ignore the crater left in our economy by the decade previous to Obama. You pretend that something, ANYTHING could have fixed all that by now when the reality is simple – that is a lie.
It is sad that anyone can “disagree completely with the direction Mr. Obama wants to take this country” when that direction is into the future with a stronger nation and opportunity for more of us.
Whatever “experience” you may believe is “necessary to be President” the facts of the economy, the lack of jobs, the lack of opportunity, the abyss between the wealthy and the poor and the problems at every level of governance in this nation is not something that can be “fixed” by ANY president.
Frankly, I “really believe” no matter who is elected, we are headed for “another and worse recession” because so little has been accomplished in this sorry excuse for a Congress to fix what caused the first big one or to defend against the next one. The idea that we fix what killed us by going back to it is just plain laughable and Willard Romney is a complete rehash of the failed Bush policies. It is all you people know and it has failed and failed and failed.
Stop acting like Obama invented this problem or that Romney can fix it and you still have a shot at credibility. Well Suzie doesn’t, but you could Michael.
No you may not “attack President Obama personally” as your pal Suzie does, but make no mistake, you believe his “qualifications” are to be questioned and I believe Willard Romney’s qualifications are to be questioned. You may deny that private equity firms have ever been called “vulture capitalists” but I did not invent the term. You may deny the weird parts of his sect but I did not invent the baptism of dead people, or the “fact” that Joseph Smith will come again like Jesus. YOU believe that “Mr. Romney simply has the greater experience which is necessary to get the country working again” because that is your mentality but the USA is not a business and real life decisions affect real life people.
Are you kidding? The reason “ever business owner or company officer I talk to thinks President Obama is not good for business” is that they are all Republican for starters, or scared to gainsay IMO. Also, they know that their own pockets will be enriched under Romney but Obama will make them work harder for it.
What is good for business may not be good for the country just because business employees people.
I do not believe for a moment that your circle of information and influence is as big or as informed as you posit…you own comments say otherwise. Business has a vested interest in a “buyer’s market” for labor, lower taxes and more profit. Romney offers all that. America has a vested interest in a strong middle class, a fair labor market and strong revenue for the needs to be met. Obama offers all that. If you need to boil it down.
None of the people you talk to are scared for the economy or this nation, only their bottom line. There is no other reason to support going backwards. It did not work under Reagan, it did not work under Bush and it will not work under Romney for the rest of us. The rest of us have been losing ground for 30 years. The only question is, do we have the sense to finally realize it. No, I am not betting the farm against the ‘right wing’ business is king propaganda machine. The best man does not always win. But he is always the best man.
“since when is it a crime to be born into a wealth family or to be very successful financially?” When you use that wealth and success to feather your own nest or buy political favor, at the expense of others.
Apologies for the epistle. That this is even a real contest just defies explanation.
Kristen,
Polls always are inexact, and every poll I ever saw from Mason Dixon admitted that up front in explicit language. When they noted the margin of error is +/- 3 percent, they added, “this means there’s there’s a 19-in-20 chance that the true number falls within a 6-point range. In other words, when they report Romney up by 3, there’s just as much likelihood that the true number is up by 3.
AND, there’s also a 1-in-20 chance that the true number falls outside the range.
I guess what I’m saying is, Mason Dixon always seemed to me to be bending over backwards to help reporters interpret the poll results for readers.
And herein lies the beauty of the RCP poll averages. Any single poll can be an outlier, but the average of many reputable polls over time is pretty darn accurate.
Dan, RCP is my favorite.
When politicians talk of an elite class that deserves special treatment because they take care of the rest of the Nation, then they clearly do not support a middle class. They clearly believe that only the elite should be in power and only the elite can run the economy and all others must be followers of the elite.
The GOP is ignoring the fact that the middle class creates the jobs and makes this Country run. If elected, Romney has promised to continue to give the elite special privilege, lower their taxes further, and will eliminate the middle class. The GOP continues to use fear of the poor to justify their elevation of the elite and to tax the middle class into oblivion and to allow private equity to put small business out of business.
“Apologies for the epistle. That this is even a real contest just defies explanation.” That is because yor analysis is flawed. You have your own point of view and look at world events thru that(your) point of view. And when things don’t pan out you wonder, “What happened?”
“Only some obscure polling group called “Mason-Dixon” shows Rmoney leading.”
“Mason Dixon’s been around for quite awhile Kristen, at least since the 80s. They’re reputable.”
It’s nice when one lib schools another lib…..the conservatives’ work-load is diminished. LOL
It took Romney 6 months to convince the GOP they wanted him. He doesnt have enough time to sell himself to everyone else.
I’d love to see what the country would look like after a venture capitalist was done with it. He’d probably sell off Alaska and its oil rights, then strip off the lowest producing states and sell them to the highest bidder.
It is also worth noting that Rasmussen and Mason-Dixon use “likely voters” as opposed to “registered voters” and that is often explained as the difference.
He’d probably sell off Alaska and its oil rights, then strip off the lowest producing states and sell them to the highest bidder.
Comment by Kristen — June 1, 2012 @ 11:19 am
Would that sale include Sarah, Scott & their brood? If so, that might not be a bad thing!!
That should be Sarah, Todd & their Brood. I just got too excited at the possibility.
Sandi,
I think likely voters is probably more accurate. We know that turnout among registered voters is low. To me “likely” implies a voter who not only is registered, but who will probably vote.
That would logically be true too Dan. They also appear to have used a bigger sampling of people which is another factor. Polling is notoriously unreliable until it is consistent for some length of time. November is a world away as far as polling goes. Methodology, questions, rhetoric, mass, scope, and of course bias, all play a role in polling. It is interesting but no one should hang their hope on it at any given moment.
Re: Comment by Kristen — May 31, 2012 @ 9:43 pm
Could there be a link between Virginia being a major battle-ground State and the Governor’s desire for drones????
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Ron, I think that the Republic of What’s Left of the United States would have to give them political asylum.
#36 Michael A. Howdyshell – it doesn’t seem particularly “fair” of you to ask me questions when you did not answer the questions in my post @28. However, being a loving and forgiving Democrat, I will do the right thing and answer – sorry for the length, but you asked…
1. “Mr. Romney simply has the greater experience which is necessary to get the country working again.”
Factually incorrect. It seems rather duplicitous to make that particular argument – believing someone who has been President of the US for the past 3+ years would not have the “greater experience necessary” is simply wrong-headed; or that a President hasn’t managed anything; or that a President doesn’t help “created jobs”.
And in Romney’s own words, –”You will hear words from people running for office that sound great. But sometimes what people say is not a perfect example of what they’re going to do.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/mitt-romneys-aides-point-to-candidates-lighter-side/2012/04/28/gIQAJsZnnT_story.html
Amen to that! Probably the only time during his campaign that he told the truth. And BTW, Obama owned and managed his own law firm in Chicago before he became a Senator and a President.
2. “Why is it ever (sic) business owner or company officer I talk to thinks President Obama is not good for business?”
Well – if they are all Chamber of Commerce members – that may be the answer to your question:
“U.S. Chamber of Commerce, a powerful business lobbying group in the United States that “has become a fully functional part of the partisan Republican machine” since CEO and president Thomas J. Donohue took office in 1997. Prior to Donohue’s tenure, the Chamber “USED TO BE a trade association that advocated in a BIPARTISAN manner for narrowly tailored policies to benefit its members.”
“…the New York Times reported in October 2010 that half of the Chamber’s $140 million in contributions in 2008 came from just 45 big-money donors, many of whom enlisted the Chamber’s help to fight political and public opinion battles on their behalf (such as opposing financial or healthcare reforms, or other regulations). The Chamber is “dominated by oil companies, pharmaceutical giants, automakers and other polluting industries,” according to James Carter, executive director of the Green Chamber of Commerce”
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=U.S._Chamber_of_Commerce
The other answer may be that you only interact with right leaning, or republican, or conservative friends and business owners – diversity of opinion is much more helpful…
3. “They are all scared to death of what a (sic) Obama second term will do to the economy.”
And “they” are scared because…??
☻In the last three years, President Obama prevented financial disaster. According to Bloomberg, “Obama inherited the worst recession since WWII” http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aNivTjr852TI
☻Scared because the Stock Market has rebounded from the 6000 range to 12000+
☻Scared because the automotive industry and their employees were saved from a disaster, and went on to making money for investors and employees – AGAINST the advice of the “great” businessman Romney who said “let Detroit go bankrupt”. http://money.cnn.com/2012/05/08/news/companies/romney-auto-bailout/index.htm
☻ Scared because 4 million jobs have been created in 26 months the Obama Presidency
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/05/obama-sees-emerging-consensus-on-eurozone-rescue-promotes-growth/
☻Scared because the President has pursued and succeeded in legislation to help the unemployed, elderly, veterans, and middle income Americans – this despite unprecedented obstruction and four years of the right-wing, unlimited funded lies and smear campaigns waged against him?
So when all the “people you know and meet” whine about how “scared” they are, what exactly are they talking about?
4. “Why can’t Obama supporters give Mr. Romney the same respect.”
Because Romney’s way of “doing business” hurt more people than he helped. His small circle of investors benefited, but Romney gamed the system by sucking money out of companies he took over. Pension funds were looted. Employees were dumped and thousands of jobs were eliminated. Stock holders were screwed as were the American taxpayers, who subsidized his little “business ventures”. When he was asked about his “job creating” in MA which was 47th out of 50 states in job creation, he defended his abysmal record stating, that he ‘inherited a state economy that was losing jobs when he took office” – Romney has continued to criticize the President for the same statement regarding the Bush economy he inherited. I don’t like hypocrites and neither do most people.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/post/the-romney-campaigns-surreal-arguments-about-the-economy/2012/05/30/gJQAPyI01U_blog.html#comments
5. “Oh yea since when is it a crime to be born into a wealth family or to be very successful financially?”
First off, that is your characterization, not mine. I would ask you however – since when is a wealthy person, along with their wealthy “friends” and sponsors, [and a multimillion dollar Mormon Church behind them] entitled to be president? Romney barely managed to steal the nomination this year with the help of an extraordinarily expensive campaign and wealthy backers. Has the presidency become a commodity that the highest bidder succeeds and attains that “crown”? Don’t be fooled into a Romney presidency – because the goal for him and his supporters is POWER, NOT GOVERNANCE. And on a personal note, I grow suspicious of people who will not release prior years [at least 10] income tax documents while running for office – he claimed he pays a 40-50% tax rate, when he barely pays 14% http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2012/01/25/411746/romney-tax-rate-spin-50-percent/?mobile=nc
or someone who does not reveal their Cayman Island and Swiss bank accounts…or someone who demonizes Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac while investing in and profiting from them
http://www.boston.com/Boston/politicalintelligence/2011/09/romney-pummels-profits-from-fannie-freddie/a2YN7UoFKXQHW1RzAiaW4J/index.html
These behaviors might just make me believe that Romney is a liar and a cheat – but hey, that just may be me.
Mea Culpa
I apologize to the rest of the bloggers on this thread for the length of this post – [but Michael Howdyshell made me do it....] snark.
Hillary,
Check your email. I sent you one.
–dan
Because Romney’s way of “doing business” hurt more people than he helped. His small circle of investors benefited, but Romney gamed the system by sucking money out of companies he took over. Pension funds were looted. Employees were dumped and thousands of jobs were eliminated.
This is just a damned lie. So much of business is done through venture capitalism. Romney had a very good success record. But if you’re that committed, you should demand 0bama give back every single penny he’s gotten from venture capitalists and companies financed by them.
Fortunately, it’s not sticking. 0bama is losing his ass running against America.
…”Only some obscure polling group called “Mason-Dixon” shows Rmoney leading.”
Comment by Kristen — May 31, 2012 @ 9:42 pm
Mason Dixon’s been around for quite awhile Kristen, at least since the 80s. They’re reputable.
Comment by Dan Casey — June 1, 2012 @ 1:07 am
Hahahahahaha,some obscure polling group?
Thanks for clearing that up Dan. Once you stepped in to smack her down she retreated quicker than Obama in his recent campaign gaffes.
Kristen continues to show us how she is a brilliant and well informed individual.
#68 the ever ignorant most ill-informed within its factless world spews nonsense
Here indeed is the prospectus of Willard Rom-lie’s mythical job creating capitalism:
“Romney never could have raised money from investors if the prospectus seeking $1-million investments from the super wealthy had said it would focus on creating jobs. Instead, it said: “The objective of the fund is to achieve an annual rate of return on invested capital in excess of the returns generated by conventional investments in the public equity market and the private equity market.”
Indeed, the prospectus never mentions “jobs,” “job,” or “employees.”
“Romney is generally careful to use phrases such as “helped create.” He also acknowledged Saturday that we “were investors to help get them going.” But even that overstates the case.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/mitt-romney-and-100000-jobs-an-untenable-figure/2012/01/09/gIQAIoihmP_blog.html
Not Jobs – only vulture capitalism [those are Gingrich's words].
AND he and his cohorts helped themselves to a little corporate welfare while creating the myth of Romney’s “job creation” and getting his “company’s bailout by the government”
“Bain & Co. and the FDIC agreed to the deal after months of intense negotiations. Moreover, bankers say debt forgiveness is relatively routine when a company is at risk of collapse. But the $10 million cost to the FDIC raises the question of whether Romney’s success, as well as the resurrection of Bain & Co., came partially at the expense of the federal agency that protects US bank deposits.”
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/01/06/us-campaign-romney-bailout-idUSTRE8050LL20120106
Don’t you have somewhere else to go to annoy others with your ignorance?
“The objective of the fund is to achieve an annual rate of return on invested capital in excess of the returns generated by conventional investments in the public equity market and the private equity market.”
Hillary,
Do you know why the objective is to achieve a higher return than conventional equity investments?
Because the companies Bain was investing in were in bad shape or under performing and much more likely to fail than conventional equity such as large cap stocks/mutual funds etc.
This was their niche and to justify the risk of investing the money, the possibility of and track record of returns needs to be greater than a safer alternative.
You know the old risk vs. reward. There has to be the motivation to risk capital.
I don’t think you understand the basic foundation of finance and I know President Obama doesn’t.
Luckily some Democrats know better and understand how the economy works.
Don’t apologize for such a thorough and source linked post Hillary! It was spot on too. Please share how you get the smiley face bullets they are adorable!!
Willard Romney is such a lying, flip flopping total politician it is hard to believe people besides Suzie and her right wing ditheads could support him over Obama. It certainly proves money is more important to some people than America ever has been or ever will be.
What about Romney’s own little “Solyndras”?
“As governor of Massachusetts, Romney handed out loans to firms in emerging technology fields, some of which ended up (like Solyndra) going bankrupt.”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/31/mitt-romney-solyndra-obama_n_1560505.html
What about Romney’s ‘use Bain run from Bain’ approach. Insisting on using the jobs number that includes the time after he left, but refusing to accept any company that went bankrupt after he left.
Credible economists are already asking if Willard Romney will “lie his way to the White House”. Sad
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dean-baker/will-romney-lie-his-way-t_b_1195432.html
No, Romney is no leader, he is no one to emulate and he will be nothing but a worse than Bush president for America. You simply do not send Wall Street to put out a fire they started.
Thank you Hillary. You are a caring and good person. I will address 28 I promise as soon as I can. Yes fellow bloggers it was my fault for Hillary’s long response. You still did not answer my question Why do most business owners think another Obama term will be bad for business? Look what the market did today!
Romney never could have raised money from investors if the prospectus seeking $1-million investments from the super wealthy had said it would focus on creating jobs. Instead, it said: “The objective of the fund is to achieve an annual rate of return on invested capital in excess of the returns generated by conventional investments in the public equity market and the private equity market.”
Indeed, the prospectus never mentions “jobs,” “job,” or “employees.”
“Romney is generally careful to use phrases such as “helped create.” He also acknowledged Saturday that we “were investors to help get them going.” But even that overstates the case.”
So….because Romney didn’t mention ‘creating jobs’ was the purpose of an investment, it means he didn’t create jobs? That’s stupid as hell even from you, Hillary.
The beauty of capitalism is acting in one’s self-interest paradoxically results in everyone else’s benefit as well. The harder you work to make money for yourself, the more services and goods you provide for everybody else. But now the moronic libs say “Well unless helping others is your primary intention, it doesn’t count”.
We see the consequences of doing the lib way right now. Redistribution, taking from the rich and giving to the poor, means everybody, especially the poor, do without. Europe is the shining example of socialist failure. And look who American leftwingers want to emulate.
Willard Romney is such a lying, flip flopping total politician it is hard to believe people besides Suzie and her right wing ditheads could support him over Obama. It certainly proves money is more important to some people than America ever has been or ever will be.
So Sandi thinks money is evil, and keeping it from the poor is a good thing. That’s basically what she’s saying.
No, hon. Money is good. Earned wealth is good. Depriving the poor of the opportunity to work their way out of poverty is wrong. That’s what you liberals are doing. It’s evil.
Michael Howdyshell, I thought of you this morning, when I read a review in the paper of the new movie called Crooked Arrows. It’s about lacrosse.
#74 most ill-informed. Again your flawed “critical” thinking is demonstrated.
Romney is not running for CEO, he is running for president – his campaign touts his so-called job creation skills, yet no documents relating to Bain indicate any interest or plans to create jobs. I personally do not care if he did or did not make money. That IS NOT THE ISSUE. His constant lie about the jobs he “created” while on the campaign trail has been shown time and time again to be lies:
“Romney himself has claimed to have helped create more than 100,000 positions through the private-equity investments made at his time with Bain.”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/17/mitt-romney-bain-jobs_n_1525531.html
Then, he said he created tens of thousands” of jobs, then “thousands of jobs”…and then,
When asked the question ‘How many jobs did you create at Bain Capital?’
“the truth, is we invested in businesses that created the jobs. We didn’t create them ourselves. They did. [Romney interview: 3/13/12, KMOV, St. Louis, Mo.]
He just can’t keep up with his own lies about is phony job creation history, and That Is The Issue…
Michael A. Howdysell @73
Michael, Michael, Michael, I DID answer that particular question…see #2 in post #68…
Michael, as much as many conservatives wish to blame the President for what occurs in Europe, he is not known to be omnipotent. The stocks will continue to fall because of the economic fears generated of by possible defaults by Greece, Spain, Ireland, Portugal – and eventually Italy. The mess in the Euro-zone continues to impact investment and banking in the US. Now if it snows in June, would that be President Obama’s fault too?
#71 – Big Momma, I do not care if Romney et al make money. That is not the issue – he CLAIMS to be a job creator [via Bain investments] – he CLAIMS that his “private sector” experience will ensure “job creation” under his administration. His history in business does not support that supposition. You are off the point, which is what I find most conservatives will do to re-direct the ‘conversation”.
And BTW, while the governor of MA, his “job creation”
abilities are public record for all to see. His state was 47th out of 50 in job creation. Not my story, the FACTS of his governorship:
Jobs: 47th out of 50 states in job creation
Taxes and fees: Increased by $750 million per year
Long-term debt: Increased more than $2.6 billion
http://www.conservatives4congress.com/2012/05/looking-at-mitt-romney-record-as.html
Sandi and Kristen – [think Kristen asked about the darkside smiley faces in the past]
They should be available in Microsoft Word under
Insert symbol. I usually use them when I post a list of links while in Word. Dan’s old system taught me never to be long winded while posting directly as my posts could disappear… and then “the scream” – nooooooo!
I do find it quite interesting how both most ill-informed and Big Momma attacked the notion of Democrats having a negative view of someone making money.
This is the typical tactic of a “specious argument”.
It had nothing to do with any of my posts regarding Romney.
Their second tactic, is to attack the poster, simply because presenting FACTS does not compute in the dogmatic mind…no amount of factual information, sourced to independent [read as not FOX] links can change their “minds”…
As they are apparently ill-equipped to provide a cogent exchange of information, it tediously becomes an endless back and forth to no avail with demands to prove their specious argument!
Sums up the RW noise machine on Dan’s blog:
*If they can get you asking [or answering] the wrong questions, they don’t have to worry about the answers. [Thomas Pynchon]
Actually, Democrats want people to make a lot of money.
I do find it quite interesting how both most ill-informed and Big Momma attacked the notion of Democrats having a negative view of someone making money.
Comment by Hillary — June 2, 2012 @ 3:43 pm
and
Actually, Democrats want people to make a lot of money.
Comment by Dan Casey — June 2, 2012 @ 4:02 pm
We know Democrats want people to make a lot of money. They want this for both themselves and others. They want wealth for themselves to keep and wealth for others that they can take and redistribute. The redistribution creates dependence on the government and ensures future votes.
It is hard for a voter to bite the hand that feeds them.
Going to see it tonight Debbie
Suzie, if you agree that “Depriving the poor of the opportunity to work their way out of poverty is wrong” why do you support such low wages and the lack of benefits for workers which is HOW that whole equation works? Methinks you lie as usual. Not that I am shocked.
Big Momma, does it happen to occur to you that if you were telling the truth when you posit: “The redistribution creates dependence on the government and ensures future votes. It is hard for a voter to bite the hand that feeds them“, that no TP/GOPer would EVER win an election? Ever? You know it is a lie and you still say it. That is very telling. Life hint: being what Suzie is might not be the way to go. Good luck with that though, it does seem to suit you.
How did you like it, Michael?
Suzie, if you agree that “Depriving the poor of the opportunity to work their way out of poverty is wrong” why do you support such low wages and the lack of benefits for workers which is HOW that whole equation works? Methinks you lie as usual. Not that I am shocked.
I should be asking YOU why you support a minimum wage which eliminates jobs,—jobs which are inevitably lower-end that the poor would have gotten?
Let me tell you the biggest reason companies aren’t hiring; They are scared to death of what they might have to do under 0bamacare. They’re waiting to see how it ends up. If it, by some miracle, stays intact, look for businesses to really pull in and make the employees they have work harder. If it fails, especially if it’s repealed by a new administration and Congress, look for an immediate uptick in hiring.
That’s what we’re thinking, and it’s what everybody else with a lot of employees is planning.
Republicans, keeping millions out of work to deny one man a job.
#88 Make the employees they have work harder? Most employees are already overworked for what they get. American workers are already the most productive among civilized, industrialized nations and put in a ridiculous number of hours. But then I shouldn’t be surprised that you’re thinking what you really need is slave labor.
Thanks for admitting that business is colluding to deprive us all of jobs and opportunity until we buckle under their pressure to vote as they demand. The very definition of Plutocracy! Suzie, you really do talk too much, but thanks for the nuggets you impart into the right wing agenda.
I should be asking YOU why you support a minimum wage which eliminates jobs,—jobs which are inevitably lower-end that the poor would have gotten?
Comment by Suzie — June 3, 2012 @ 4:34 pm
Seems to me Suzie Q that if your hubby isn’t paying his employees, given the nature of his business, more than minimum wage he’d be out of business soon. My guess is you’d like to go back to the day of “poor houses and poor farms.” That’s really what you & the Republican party wants to do to our nation. You want to roll back child labor laws, and every other piece of legislation that has benefitted not only our labor force but our nation as a whole. You want to go back to the days when food processing companies can produce whatever food they want without any safety regulation. You want to take us back to the days when health insurance didn’t exist and those who couldn’t afford to go to the doctor didn’t. Interesting form of population control don’t you think. The ultimate irony, in your case, is that you actually call yourself a Christian. It’s one thing to call yourself that, but something all together different to actually be one. God has a special place for people like you.
Life is weird. Hubby is living back in the days when he was a little boy, when Hershey bars cost a nickel and gasoline was 19 cents a gallon. If only he could pay his help 67 cents an hour, the prevailing wage back then, why, HUBBY COULD MAKE A LOT MORE MONEY for Suzie to spend, and donate, to politicians who want to cut their already (historically) low taxes.
Just think of all the coffees she could buy at the Klatch then!
#89 most ill-informed posted, “They are scared to death of what they might have to do under 0bamacare”
Here we go again with the RW crazies who are “scared” of everything. Why?
Did President Obama fail to create 4 million jobs?
Did he fail to get bin Laden?
Did he fail to pass health care reform?
Did he fail to end the war in Iraq and set a date to leave Afghanistan?
Did he fail to sign into law equal pay for women?
Did he fail to prevent a number of terrorist attacks by disrupting and decimating the Al Quaeda leadership? Did he fail to save Detroit?
Did he fail to get modest beginnings to financial reform?
Did he fail to get BP to pony up to mitigate the severe damage from the Gulf oil spill?
No he succeeded each and every time, but the lily-livered republicans and their constituents pretend “fear”.
Without Republican obstructionism, this President would have done much, much more, but that would defeat the strategy of the right which – comment made by Republican Sen. Mitch McConnell (R/KY) as Senate Minority Leader:
“The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president.”
Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, quoted in National Journal, November 4, 2010
The right, for all their pseudo patriotism, hate President Obama more than they love this country.
Amen Ron #93! Right on Dan and Hillary! It is the problem, not the solution.
They say they aren’t hiring new workers because of the bad economy. By not hiring they’re guaranteeing the economy stays bad.
Debbie,
I’ve talked with several employers in my area in the last month to six weeks. They all have said to me that they are not hiring, not because of the bad economy, but rather because they don’t want credit to be given to the current president. They don’t want that credit to be given because they believe it would accrue to him in the election coming up. They are purposely taking longer to deliver orders by not hiring new employees to handle the new orders they have received. They are taking longer to do work in order to avoid hiring new employees. They are deliberately not expanding for political reasons. Just like the Republican political leadership, they are doing everything in their power to assure that Obama is a one term president. It’s going to be a tough summer and fall. I’m more worried about my country than I have been since the 1960s and 1970s.
It was good Debbie
And they have the unmitigated call to consider themselves patriotic Americans, Ron.
Make that gall not call
I’ve talked with several employers in my area in the last month to six weeks. They all have said to me that they are not hiring, not because of the bad economy, but rather because they don’t want credit to be given to the current president. They don’t want that credit to be given because they believe it would accrue to him in the election coming up. They are purposely taking longer to deliver orders by not hiring new employees to handle the new orders they have received. They are taking longer to do work in order to avoid hiring new employees. They are deliberately not expanding for political reasons. Just like the Republican political leadership, they are doing everything in their power to assure that Obama is a one term president. It’s going to be a tough summer and fall. I’m more worried about my country than I have been since the 1960s and 1970s
Jeez, what a ridiculous post. First off, Ron doesn’t associate with any conservative business owners. Secondly, it’s ludicrous to think a businessman would intentionally cut his own throat by not doing things he needs to do.
Nobody is trying to or needs to sabotage Monkey Boy. He’s done it all by his socialist lonesome. If anything, it’s gone the other way with the MSM trying to pretend the economy is zipping along and 0bama isn’t moribund going into November.
Did President Obama fail to create 4 million jobs?
Nope. Idiot Boy has lost over one million net jobs in his 3 1/2 years.
Did he fail to get bin Laden?
Bush’s forces got Bin Laden. 0bama tried everything in his power to disable those forces, cutting their funding. They prevailed anyway, and now he’s taking credit. Shameful SOB.
Did he fail to pass health care reform?
There’s no reform. The Democrat supermajority forced socialized health care on a populus that didn’t want it, if that’s what you mean. It’s the reason the Tea Party took the House in 2010.
Did he fail to end the war in Iraq and set a date to leave Afghanistan?
The Iraq War was already over. Bush won it. Afghanistan is still roiling with hundreds of casualties a year and still no plan for victory.
Did he fail to sign into law equal pay for women?
Huh? Women don’t get equal pay. Nor do they deserve it as long as they’re taking bunches of time off.
Did he fail to prevent a number of terrorist attacks by disrupting and decimating the Al Quaeda leadership?
No, that was Bush. After 2001, there were NO attacks on American soil. We’ve now had two and almost a third during Monkey Boy’s short regime.
Did he fail to save Detroit?
No. He threw hundreds of billions at union workers in payback. The auto industry is still in the crapper. “Green” cars are an abysmal failure. How many Volts have been sold? 15?
Did he fail to get modest beginnings to financial reform?
He’s harmed lending and business by putting forth even more restriction. This is after Democrats destroyed the economy by causing bad loans to be made to unqualified borrowers.
Did he fail to get BP to pony up to mitigate the severe damage from the Gulf oil spill?
What Gulf Oil spill?
Thanks for the fat pitches, hon. I enjoyed knocking them out of the park.
Michael, PH played Battlefield closer than I thought they would but it was REALLY too bad we didn’t beat Glass and get get North Stafford. Glass won that one 12-1. They have some good players coming back, but I’m afraid next year is going to be rebuilding time.
You keep believing that garbage Suzie.
#103 suzie can’t bring herself to be even slightly honest. Sad.
Who knew wiffle ball was her forte? Suzie, you are only kidding yourself and the few conservatives still willing to post next to you. No one else is believing anything you offer and the sound you think is “knocking them out of the park” is just your honesty, integrity and credibility going across the fence and out of sight. I guess you can call that a triple if it makes you happy though.
You are so wrong it is just laughable. That even a few people in this nation think like you is beyond sad. And yes, business would hurt itself to be rid of the threat of fairness to workers that Obama represents.
#103 most ill-informed again presents her wrong-headed OPINIONS as FACTS which of course they are not.
Perhaps it has no research abilities therefore no links are ever posted – in that case, bless its heart, we will have to make allowances. Poor deluded thing…she “hit” the foul ball out of the park…
“What Gulf oil spill?” – Recently, Fox News seems to remember it and apparently, it’s still a problem: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/05/24/gulf-fishermen-reel-from-seafood-troubles/ – oh yeah, THAT oil spill.
Oh man… I hope the helmet’s strapped on tight and all the glass has been cleaned, ’cause we’re in for a slobberin’ good time today!
“What gulf oil spill”
WOW. She’s right up there with Ahmedinejad in the level of denial.