Scott Walker’s memory grows hazy on ‘divide and conquer’
Poor Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker. He may be suffering from the same kind of political dementia as putative GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney, who can’t remember beating up a gay classmate at his silver-spoon prep boarding school.
Now that he’s facing the first recall election for governor in Wisconsin history, Walker can’t remember engaging in a “divide and conquer” political strategy against public employee unions in his first election. Oops! That was the way he termed it. Watch the video:
Let’s be clear about what happened in Wisconsin following Walker’s election. Walker split the public safety unions away from teachers and other public employee unions. He held police and firefighters harmless with their pensions and bargaining rights, while he dinged the other public employees and outlawed collective bargaining for them.
That is called divide and conquer, and it worked. The tragedy is, the public safety unions in Wisconsin are next — they’re just too dumb to realize it.
And now Scott Walker doesn’t remember? If that’s true, he’s gone senile at an early age and needs to be retired immediately.
The other possibility is he’s lying. In which case he also needs to be retired immediately.
May 11, 2012 - 7:53 PM
More criticism of Republicans. I hope you get paid well for this by the Democratic Party.
#1 Oh, that’s right, nobody’s allowed to criticize Rethugs because they ALWAYS want what’s best.
I actually got an email from the Walker campaign soliciting me for a donation so they can beat back the “out of state special interest groups behind this senseless recall vote”
So he is asking for out of state money be beat back out of state money?
Hypocrite.
Walker is a lyhing scumbag wholly owned and controlled by the Koch Brothers and the U.S. Chamber of Commerce. He has raised over 10 million dollars of money from out of state special interests to spend in a campaign where the opposition doesn’t even have anywhere near that amount of money to spend. And he follows the Karl Rove tactic. That is, the best way to distract people from the hypocrisy of your campaign and the lies you tell is to accuse the opposition of doing what you are doing in spades. If you spend enough money and buy enough TV time telling the lie, eventually people will have it embedded in their brain and think it is the truth.
I heard Walker lied on a job application. Get this…he claimed he was a Cherokee Indian. What a CHEATER! He is almost as white as Elizabeth Warren.
Surely the democrats will protest for basic fairness and demand that Walker drop out of the race.
Does FlimFlambaugh get paid well for what he does Henry? How open minded, fair and balanced is the POV he spews every weekday? George Will? Cal Thomas? Krauthammer?
Why do you people insist that Dan’s blog be something that YOU want it to be? What a sense of entitlement you all keep on display. It is NOT your blog, you do not get to decide the topics.
God and all of us know that you are always throwing out your own topics and talking points in the open threads. Start your own blog and shut up about how this one is run.
Terps, that stuff you were spreading about Warren has been debunked. It’s untrue. Where have you been?
Walker could be removed before the recall.
terps
If Walker is moving his lips, he is lying, no matter what the topic.
Art Hill@12:41
Walker’s entire term as Milwaukee county exec. as well as the fundraising he is doing for the recall campaign and his ldgal defense funds all smell worse than 5 day old fish wrapped ina soggym newspaper.
#5 Well, terps, at least neither one of them seems to have untruthfully claimed — unlike a certain Casey blogger we know — that Roanoke OWSers were defecating in Elmwood Park, leaving tons of trash and scaring away whole families en masse.
And as Dan points out, the whole Warren thing appears to be right-wing BS. But then it wouldn’t be a surprise if you were spreading yet more manure.
7)”Terps, that stuff you were spreading about Warren has been debunked. It’s untrue. Where have you been?”
Debunked? Then somebody must be playing a hoax on the mostly liberal magazine “the Hill.”
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/senate-races/226789-second-university-listed-warren-as-minority-professor
Just yesterday they published documentation that Warren was prominently listed as a minority At U of Penn. I think this may be a Tea Party conspiracy to infiltrate newspapers and magazines to spread lies about democrats cheating. It is a relief knowing that your digging deep to find the truth because we all know that a democrat would never cheat.
The fact that Penn listed her as a minority doesn’t mean she she applied there claiming to be one. And now we know that she never did at the other institutions– so it’s more likely than not that she didn’t.
This is just Howie Carr doing BS again.
Ah Terps, the man who labeled the OWSers in Elmwood “scum”. That I’m sure came after talking with them, questioning them about their backgrounds, jobs, families etc. More likely it was an observation made after a drive by after which he ran back to his computer and made the anonymous slur. What a man, what a guy. And we read and respond to him? Why…
She had high cheek bones. They already knew she was squaw.
Sure, Dan….people get listed all the time as minorities for no reason.
Dan
I’m confused. How did u of Penn list her as a minority if she did not make the claim? Also, when did Howie Carr start writing for The Hill?
I dropped my subscription to the Roanoke Times because of the blind bias of Casey, a left wing progressive who believes government is the answer to everything, unions have the right to suck states dry (how about teachers who have cosmetic surgery covered in their health insurance benefits), the Solyndra investment was a good deal, Elizabeth Warren is okay in lying and changing her status as a minority at will, our president is perfectly okay in stating that he hated whites in his own book and used cocaine whenever he wanted to….all of this is fine by Casey. Just don’t you date believe in protecting YOUR rights if he disagrees with them. Liberals are such angry, destructive people.
So J.I., you dropped your subscription because of one person whose column runs 3 days a week, yet you read his blog?
J. I. Warner,
I am flattered that your decisions in life are at least in part governed by me. That makes me far more powerful and influential that I ever would have believed. Thank you for letting me know.
BTW, it’s a lie that teachers get cosmetic surgery with their health insurance. Open your eyes and you’ll realize that the Solyndra was kicked off in the Bush administration (and lots of GOP congressman approved of it). There is no proof whatsoever that Elizabeth Warren has changed her “status” and you can offer none; all you can do is repeat others’ false statements that she has. And to the extent that Obama used cocaine, he merely followed in GWB’s footsteps. (Do you take comfort in GWB’s documented alcohol abuse and use of LSD?). You ought to let Obama off the hook on that one. When he was young and stupid he was young and stupid, right? Oh wait — I forgot — wrong. That only applies to GWB.
Finally, it’s a nice day out there. Go enjoy it. Don’t let your thoughts be ruled by me too much today.
Terps,
You have to ask U of Penn about that. Maybe she put it down in some paperwork there. Maybe somebody there screwed up.
All I know is, if a story in the paper noted that you were female, that 1) would not necessarily mean that you had told the reporter you were female; and 2) would not necessarily mean you were female.
Debbie,
What’s so maddening to J. I. is, he knows I’m right. And he doesn’t like to be confronted with the truth. That hurts (but evidently not so much that he stays away from this blog).
Thank you for reading, J.I.
Ok I’m convinced. U of Penn made up that she was an Indian and Warren was oblivious. Investigative journalism is easy.
In a previous thread I was told I was delusional for stating facts.
I have noticed that liberals tend to make personal attacks when
they cannot support their views with facts.
ie; Oil companies pay taxes, they do not get subsidies, the Fed.
does not send them a check.
By pointing this out I was accused of being delusional.
Small children often use this tactic when they don’t get their way.
Suuurre, JI.
Phil Chitwood and terps believe the head of the Cherokee Nation deserves to be mocked as not being Native-American enough: Elizabeth Warren is exactly as Cherokee as the principle chief of the Cherokee nation, Bill John Baker. (Baker, like Warren, is 1/32 Cherokee.)
Using their own vaidity standard of (>1/32), Phil Chitwood and terps do not deserve to be mocked for not being white enough, middle aged enough, insufficiently silent during the GOP’s deficit expansions, or insufficently supportive of middle class contraction, money’s influence in elections, and corporate welfare for Wall Street and big fossil fuel companies. Both have them have plenty of each of these qualities to support their claim to being modern “conservatives”, as do Scott Brown, Scott Walker, Bob McDonnell, Ken Cuccinelli, Jerry Falwell jr., and others with equally “pure” blood. You know, like George Allen, who’s always been eager to acknowledge his (1/2) Jewish heritage, inherited from the mother whom he said taught him the word “macaca”, and affirmed by his actions.
#18 “Liberals are such angry, destructive people.”
So, invading Iraq under a republican President, providing bogus rationale for doing so and sending over 4,000 Americans to their deaths over a contrived war is not “destructive”? The Republican Senate Minority Leader states “The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one term President” and that is not “angry and destructive”? When the presumptive GOP nominee totally misquotes the President (“if we keep talking about the economy we’re going to lose”-attributed by Romney to Obama but actually a statement McCain had used), that is not angry and destructive? When the spokesperson for right wingers, Limbaugh, repeatedly and without apology makes racist remarks about the President, that is not “angry and destructive”? The list could go on for pages and pages and it does and your hypocrisy is astounding.
J. I. Warner,
While you knew you were setting yourself up for a bashing from Casey and his groupies (I’m sure Sandi will chew at your shoe leather here shortly too), please do come back and post on other things. A lot of us spar with Dan and have a good time doing so.
There is something inherently wrong with the term “anti-labor billionaire”. That such people exist is an offense to decency.
J.I. proves what is wrong with the average TP/GOP voter. Ignorance is bliss and disinformation is manna.
Open your eyes and you’ll realize that the Solyndra was kicked off in the Bush administration
What does it have to do with the price of eggs in China that Solyndra started as a company during Bush? He’s not the one that gave them a $527 million loan.
What is happening is a clear case of what the “new” GOP has in store for this county. I look at Walker and I am thinking, Fascism. Ok maybe that is a strong word but looking at what he is doing, he’s not far away; yea fascist purges to get rid of unions and make damn sure people cannot have a living wage.
But it does not take rocket scientist to see where he is getting his money from whom and why. This kind of folks do not want a democracy, they want total control over the population. It makes me think what Pullman strike did. Back then Pullman, built a city for his workers and it worked for a while. Then the workers were getting the short end of the stick for too long and something had to happen.
Here is hoping Walker gets shown the door.
Here’s hoping that Walker gets 16 Tons of votes against him.
BTW, The incomparable Nighthawks are playing June 22 at Blue 5 in Roanoke.
Wow, I’m a groupie. Who knew?
That was a cool version and yea hell of a band.
But as they say what comes around goes around and that guy Walker has it coming in spades.
If all you can do is come on here and whine about Dan, the blog or the regulars here, do us all a favor and find a place you like, that likes you back…or does such a place exist?
Rob Thommins, if you do not believe tax deductions especially carved out for the profitable “energy” industry is a subsidy what do you call it, a bribe?
That is the best — and most different — interpretation of Tennessee Ernie Ford’s Sixteen Tons that I’ve heard. Every time I’ve seen them they bring the house down with that number.
That was an awesome version of 16 tons!
“If all you can do is come on here and whine about Dan, the blog or the regulars here, do us all a favor and find a place you like, that likes you back…or does such a place exist?”
Guess we should file this as “More Great Moments in Free Speech and Tolerance” as once again, Sandi invites someone whose opinion she doesn’t like to simply leave and not be heard (with personal insult thrown in for good measure).
The Republican Senate Minority Leader states “The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one term President” and that is not “angry and destructive”?
Nope, it’s called getting rid of the guy that promised to make the country socialist. It’s simply telling it like it is.
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Thank you, J I Warner. The truth is told by too few in here, and these people need to hear what you have to say.
“Guess we should file this as “More Great Moments in Free Speech and Tolerance”
Chuck, the “liberal” “progressive” lefties don’t want tolerance (in fairness, neither do those cramming their religion down our throats either). That used to be the word of the day about ten years ago, but now, they want ACCEPTANCE of their beliefs. For a politically incorrect example, remember when tolerance was good enough for gay people? Their lifestyle cannot be called a “lifestyle” or “sexual preference” anymore either since it kind of implies the conservative idea that their sexuality is a choice and, thus not politically correct. Now that tolerance is not good enough, accptance is demanded. Religious tolerance is no longer good enough either in much the same way.
Just a tolerance vs. acceptance trend I’ve noticed.
By the way, now that she’ll light into me for this rather that jump on your back, you owe me a Sandi attack rescue diversion someday.
“Just a tolerance vs. acceptance trend I’ve noticed.”
A difference of course is that religious groups have organized to change state constitutions to prohibit gay men and women from having EQUAL rights. I do not see a gay movement to change constitutions to prohibit religion. From the looks of it, the religious groups what nothing to do with tolerance or acceptance other than to define the meaning of both words.
#41 I have a family member who is gay. I really could care less and so does she that you or anyone else “accepts” or “tolerates” her. What she wants are the same legal rights anyone else has. That includes having any government entity telling her whom she can or cannot marry.
What she wants are the same legal rights anyone else has.
She has the same legal rights everyone else has. Gay people want extra rights.
John Wilburn,do you believe sexual preference is a choice? A conscious decision that one makes? If so, when did you make the conscious decision to be attracted to females vs males? Do you seriously believe that sexuality is something that one chooses, that we are all born straight and that gays are only gay because that’s the choice that they made?
#44 “She has the same legal rights everyone else has.”
You mean as long as she forces herself to agree to be heterosexual.
45.”John Wilburn,do you believe sexual preference is a choice?”
Reread my comment Debbie, it was a just traditional conservative-based argument that does make a great point of tolerance vs. acceptance. I even prefaced it as such. Personally, it wouldn’t matter to me if the old ideology was right and a person actually chose it over their own natural feelings. Choice is crucial to liberty, after all.
“She has the same legal rights everyone else has. Gay people want extra rights.”
My bigger issue is the whole “hate crime” thing. Crime is crime, hate is hate, people are people and gays should get no special treatment over blacks, whites, women, men, or any combination thereof.
Well, I can bring the ideas of my latest “gay marriage” thoughts from Friday’s thread; since we are on the subject here.
I did it in about 2 sentences THERE, and will try likewise keep it short here while I respectfully disagree with Suzie on this point.
Suzie:
Actually, if you really think about “survivor’s benefits”..or your “spouse” HAVING to be the beneficiary of certain death benefits, or dividends of certain investments.
If you think about, as an example, if you had to worry that your Husband’s “blood” family might contest what your Husband decided to leave you in his Will, no matter how long you have been together, simply because they didn’t agree with your marriage, you would see that LGBTs do not really have the same protection under the law.
That and ONLY that is my reason for supporting “gay marriage” as Constitutional and that “equal protection under the law” should be offered to every American Citizen in all 50 States.
Everything else is just used to divide us….No one is going to convince me that the LGBT crowd is entitiled to any more “rights” or “privledges” or anymore of a “voice” than, as an example, an Alcoholic has. I just feel they need to be “treated the same”..in ALL areas, the right to “marry” included.
#47 John W, I’m sorry for moistaking your intent with comment #41.
Chuck, you are free to “file” my comments anywhere you like, but you are wrong in your sanctimonious conclusion. Free Speech and Tolerance are about allowing for disagreement with my POV, which I do. I enjoy a good debate on any issue. What free speech nor tolerance is about is accepting or embracing the constant barrage of insults for daring to a POV. The daily drumbeat of how awful Dan is, how biased and unfair he is on his own blog, how ignorant, socialist, marxist, whiny and awful liberal bastards who post here are, and of course the racist insults to the President many of us support, IS offensive and it gets you the same treatment right back. Why you think we should welcome the lies, right wing blather and propaganda you offer here, where it is plainly for spite, is beyond me.
“Great Moments in Free Speech and Tolerance” can be found when people have the decency to check their insults at the door and right wingers have never been able to do that, yet whine like you do when we won’t either.
John Wilburn, so good of you to offer to take Chuck’s fire, but if he can dish it out, he can take it. Do you gun advocates treat any “anti” who DARES to offer a different view with respect and “tolerance”? I think we know better!
If you folks had been able to come with ideas and insult free posts, you might well have received the same in return. That is seldom the case whether you want to whine that it is or not.
You too are wrong. I do not want anyone to accept my beliefs, I want them to respect that I have them, that having them does not make me ignorant, brain-washed, unAmerican, or harmful to the nation. I respect anyone’s right to believe differently right up until they have to insult my belief. Then I quit listening and start fighting. You all can see so plainly the “lefty” agenda, insult and propaganda, but never your own.
We ask NO ONE to accept anything about the gay lifestyle. We demand EQUAL rights and that is a different thing. Many cannot accept a lot of what goes on in the world, but they do not (and are not allowed) to discriminate because of that refusal. Let me give you a real world example: I do not like or embrace your right to carry a gun wherever you happen to be, yet I do not have the right to discriminate and say you cannot. That is the difference in a right and acceptance of it. Get it?
Maybe if you folks don’t want to be attacked, you should stop attacking. Just a thought.
Well said Mutt #42!
Anything to keep from discussing the truth about Scott Walker and the TP/GOP war on workers. Wake up America, while you are distracted voting for what you believe is God, you are being sold down the river like an unprofitable slave.
#48 Sharon N,
“….No one is going to convince me that the LGBT crowd is entitiled to any more “rights” or “privledges” or anymore of a “voice” than, as an example, an Alcoholic has. I just feel they need to be “treated the same”..”
No, no, no, you got it all wrong; the gays usually have far better grammar than you, and are therefore accorded more “rights” and “privledges“ (sp) than you are “entitiled” (sp) to. If you want to be treated the same, kindly take a moment to consider that introductory composition class at VWCC that I mentioned the other day. Alcoholics are one thing. A problem, yes, but a class of people that, like the gay, can be woven into the fabric of our country; illiterates are clearly another case altogether.
Sharon, that alcoholic comparison is going to get you some heat. I’d say gay people should have no more rights that you, I, Dan Casey, or Ron Livingston from Office Space….. which I’m watching right now. One of the funniest movies ever.
“Do you gun advocates treat any “anti” who DARES to offer a different view with respect and “tolerance”? I think we know better!”
“Let me give you a real world example: I do not like or embrace your right to carry a gun wherever you happen to be, yet I do not have the right to discriminate and say you cannot.”
You’ve repeatedly said that people ought not be able to carry guns in public. You have no real tolerance of the bearing of arms. Total Hypocrite.
John Wilburn,
Do you believe in legislation prohibiting discrimination against people who have concealed carry permits?
Alcoholics have the same rights as everyone else too, obviously. What the heck does that have to do with same sex marriage?
The appropriate analogy you should use for “gay rights” is your own rights. They’re the same, or should be.
Dan, you’re referring to what Missouri recently did, aren’t you? I think I’d rather not see anti CHP discrimination legislation. Perhaps it could be okay for government hiring. The gun carriers and gay people are both making progress representing themselves as good examples and influencing public opinion. Why muddy things up with more government?
So who’s the “Manchurian Candidate?”
Romney’s China Investments — The Story Behind the Story
“In a press statement, Cutter said:
Now we know why Mitt Romney has been less than forthcoming about the details of his finances. Romney and his trustee claimed that he divested completely from Chinese-based companies. But today we learned that he continues to have a partnership interest worth hundreds of thousands of dollars in a Bain Capital fund that owns a Chinese video surveillance company. This revelation not only highlights Romney’s utter hypocrisy on China, but it also raises more questions about what his investments are and why he won’t reveal all of them.”
“…The Romney trusts also reportedly owned stock in other CCP/PLA-connected companies, such as Industrial and Commercial Bank of China, China Life Insurance, China Northshore Oil and China Merchants Holdings, and the China Fire and Security Group. There are also the similarly troubling Romney investments in Gazprom, the Russian state-owned company directed by Putin and his KGB-FSB mafiya cronies, and the Bain investments in Iran, through French banking giant BNP Paribas.”
http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/politics/item/9280-romneys-china-investments-%E2%ef%bf%bd%ef%bf%bd-the-story-behind-the-story
Hedging his bets? Sounds like a true citizen of the world if you really want to know…
#30 most ill-informed posted, “Solyndra started as a company during Bush? He’s not the one that gave them a $527 million loan.”
I have corrected this lie you continue to spread at least twice before – you are a verrrry verrrry sllooww learner…
FACT:
It’s often claimed that the Solyndra loan guarantee was “rushed through” by the Obama Administration for political reasons. In fact, the Solyndra loan guarantee was a multi-year process that the Bush Administration launched in 2007. http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2011/09/13/317594/timeline-bush-administration-solyndra-loan-guarantee/?mobile=nc
John Wilburn you know that is not true. I have not “repeatedly said that people ought not be able to carry guns in public”. I have repeatedly said I do not like or embrace your right to carry a gun wherever you happen to be, yet I am not able to take away your right based on my own feelings or opinion. Yet no one seems to have any such compunction on gay rights.
Sandi, I have neither the time nor desire to dig up that thread where you gave a laundry list of public places people should not be allowed to carry. You’ve expressed disgust with concealed carry and have said I’m an “angry time bomb” and shouldn’t able to be carrying without your knowledge by carrying concealed. You can’t back up and claim that you honor our rights now both in your tolerance and in word. Your record does not demonstrate such.