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Shot by Dan Thursday in Salem.

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  1. Jack | June 1, 2012 at 9:46 am

    Japan and China today began trading currency directly, without using the US Dollar as an intermediary.

  2. terps | June 1, 2012 at 9:54 am

    Unemployment UP to 8.2%.
    GOODBYE BARRY!

  3. Jack | June 1, 2012 at 9:54 am

    Venezuela has banned private gun ownership. For any of you folks who are worried about people carrying guns in public, Venezuela might be a good place to relocate to.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-18288430

  4. Kristen | June 1, 2012 at 9:58 am

    Jack, I’ll be interested to see what the result is on gun violence.

    good luck with that, terps.

  5. gdad | June 1, 2012 at 10:02 am

    #2 terps, was that you guarding the sand sculpture, making sure the Roanoke OWSers didn’t get too close?

  6. Ron | June 1, 2012 at 10:09 am

    The basketball world lost a good man yesterday. Jack Twyman was an NBA & college basketball star before many on here were born. The NBA could use a few more Jack Twyman’s today. He was a class act. The article linked below tells you why.

    http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/former-nba-star-jack-twyman-dies-at-78-053112

  7. Jack | June 1, 2012 at 10:17 am

    @Kristen: “Jack, I’ll be interested to see what the result is on gun violence.”

    You mean you don’t know the results already? If you ban guns completely, there can be no gun violence because there are no guns.

  8. terps | June 1, 2012 at 10:32 am

    #5
    Nope GDAD.
    I was busy trying to catch you with your Pooper Scooper.

  9. Suzie | June 1, 2012 at 10:58 am

    8.2%

    And HOW many trillions has this idiot thrown away on “job-creating stimulus programs”?

    This guy should be in prison. Where did all that money go?

  10. gdad | June 1, 2012 at 11:11 am

    #9 And without the stimulus it might be, who knows, 12 percent. I’m guessing Obama has saved us a lot of pain.

  11. JackJM | June 1, 2012 at 11:16 am

    “And without the stimulus it might be, who knows, 12 percent. I’m guessing Obama has saved us a lot of pain.” To be re-distributed later…

  12. Kristen | June 1, 2012 at 11:20 am

    Actually Jack, after a few zillion words from you and JohnW, I’m convinced that a ban on guns will result in gun violence escalating on an order of several magnitudes.

  13. scott | June 1, 2012 at 11:29 am

    I just paid $3.04/gallon for gas.

    THAT DAMNED OBAMA AND HIS GAS PRICES.

    wait… oh yeah.

  14. Dan Casey | June 1, 2012 at 11:41 am

    scott,

    I’m sure Lake Claytor would tell you that Obama only gets credit when the price of gas goes UP. When it goes down, all the credit belongs to Mitt Romney ;)

  15. Jack | June 1, 2012 at 11:42 am

    @scott: “I just paid $3.04/gallon for gas. THAT DAMNED OBAMA AND HIS GAS PRICES.”

    It was about ~$1.87/gallon when he started.

  16. gdad | June 1, 2012 at 11:47 am

    #13 You also have to remember that while Obama gets the blame when gasoline prices go up, he definitely gets no credit whatsoever for the huge drop in natural gas prices.

  17. billhudson | June 1, 2012 at 11:49 am

    Ok Scott, I’ve got to ask, where was that? I think the cheapest so far I found was $3.12.

  18. scott | June 1, 2012 at 11:54 am

    I blame the media! all that Hype about $4 or $5 gas was bull. The Media posts about it because it puts eyes on the bylines… then created artificial demand, and then that demand drives the price up!

    Dan, this is all your fault. God help the media if they start driving up the price of beer. Heads will roll.

    (tongue in cheek, obviously)

  19. carl rosen | June 1, 2012 at 11:54 am

    hey dan, can you take a guess as to why we no longer get reports of soldiers deaths in afghanistan? 4 yrs ago our warriors deaths were reported by the media on a regular basis. i check the dod website but never see the statistics in the news

  20. Sandi Saunders | June 1, 2012 at 11:55 am

    Is Bush in jail for the trillions that “idiot” threw away?

  21. Chuck | June 1, 2012 at 12:18 pm

    I thought liberals have been saying for years now, at least since Bush left office, that the president has little or nothing to do with gas prices. Now you think he should get credit when they drop?

  22. Other John | June 1, 2012 at 12:30 pm

    scott, I paid $2.76 earlier this week, though granted that did include the Kroger fuel discounts…$3.26 before that.

  23. Dan Casey | June 1, 2012 at 1:05 pm

    “It was about ~$1.87/gallon when he started.”

    That’s right, Jack, and the DOW was heading for 6,000 (since recovered) and growth was negative (it has since reversed course). I think that gas prices are going to keep going down, too, because it appears that the world’s economy is in for a very bumpy summer.

    On the Euro thread Wednesday, Mark Jurkevich had some good advice for folks over 50 who have a 401k. I took that advice 3 weeks ago.

  24. Rob Thommins | June 1, 2012 at 1:05 pm

    Let me start by saying I am no fan of President Obama.
    Now the unemployment figure is 8.2%.
    I have to ask myself of that figure, what percentage
    of those unemployed actually want to work?
    Obama is the President of U.S. but he cannot make
    people seek work if they don’t want to.

    Part of the unemployment figure is due to lazy people
    who would rather draw unemployment benefits as work.

  25. Richard J Beason, CPA | June 1, 2012 at 1:40 pm

    carl rosen – Deaths are reported daily in the NYT.

  26. Richard J Beason, CPA | June 1, 2012 at 1:53 pm

    Wonder how much money the Koch brothers lost in their oil speculation?

    Gas prices down as the refineries have come back online and one in Pennsylvania has reopened. There is another recently purchased that will reopen soon. I understand the oil pipelines have been backed up since the refineries have been down bringing oil prices down.

    All the blame placed on Obama for not opening drilling fast enough was pure BS as usual. Note the GOP has not commented on his opening offshore Alaska drilling. Look for hte dollar to continue to rise as Europe continues its problems. Remains to be seen how the direct currency exchange with China and Japan works out. China has long sought to avoid the dollar as have all the BRICS.

  27. Kristen | June 1, 2012 at 1:58 pm

    RomTimmons, he also can’t make anyone hire.

  28. Jack | June 1, 2012 at 2:13 pm

    @Sandi: “Is Bush in jail for the trillions that “idiot” threw away?”

    You honestly want to say that trillions in new debt deserve jail time? You should look at the new debt under Obama. More in one term than two for GWB.

  29. terps | June 1, 2012 at 2:21 pm

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0612/76946.html

    Lizzy now admits to telling a big lie. Originally, she said that she had not told Harvard and Penn that she was she was Indian and that she had “no idea” that they had promoted her as a minority hire.
    Now, THREE WEEKS LATER, after serial lies, she finally admits to telling Harvard and Penn that she was Indian.
    How far do you libs want to go in supporting this pathetic liar?

  30. Scott A | June 1, 2012 at 2:30 pm

    Dan,
    Not being too brilliant on the financial scene, but with considerable savings in 401Ks, IRAs, ect., what does “capital preservation” that Mark J refers to actually mean? If I was to mention that to my broker, would he know what options to discuss with me?

  31. Sandi Saunders | June 1, 2012 at 2:48 pm

    No Jack, I have better sense than to “honestly want” a President in jail for debt, that was you pal Suzie in #9, just playing her childish game. Obama’s debt was mostly to stop the economic crisis, Bush’s was to buy votes and pretend to govern.

  32. Dave Hicks | June 1, 2012 at 2:49 pm

    Nothing new here but worth reading:

    http://tinyurl.com/7qvqw6e

    **
    Why politicians lie and why we want to believe them

    By Halimah Abdullah, CNN
    updated 5:30 AM EDT, Fri June 1, 2012

    STORY HIGHLIGHTS

    At the heart of the “birther” controversy is an argument about political lies

    Psychologists say politicians stretching the truth is “part of the social fabric”

    Richard Nixon, Bill Clinton and John Edwards have all been caught up in political deception

    SNIP

    “We’re much more likely to notice evasive behavior with politicians we already disagree with,” Norton said. “But we forget people in our party are doing the same thing.”
    **

  33. carl rosen | June 1, 2012 at 2:53 pm

    By my count, 13 brave warriors have fallen in battle since Memorial Day weekend. Not included is the number gravely injured. Must have missed them all on the news because all my news was about a slimy politician on trial in NC

  34. Dave Hicks | June 1, 2012 at 2:57 pm

    Very good read: http://tinyurl.com/86ldzgs

    The libertarian (note small “l”) in me cries out.
    .

    **
    Big Gulp? Meet Big Brother

    By Edward Morrissey, Special to CNN
    updated 9:55 AM EDT, Fri June 1, 2012

    STORY HIGHLIGHTS

    Ed Morrissey: New York mayor’s proposal to ban soda size servings is wrong

    He says it makes no sense: What’s to stop people from drinking too much soda?

    He calls Mayor Michael Bloomberg’s proposal a nanny-state rule

    Morrissey: New rule would dictate mayor’s choices and eliminate everyone else’s

    SNIP
    **

    Authoritarianism (right or left) is the enemy of our freedoms, IMHO.

  35. gdad | June 1, 2012 at 3:01 pm

    #21 Chuck, I can’t decide whether you’re really this dense or just joking around. The folks who are asking why Obama isn’t getting any credit for falling gas prices are being sarcastic because they don’t believe he had much to do with the rise.

  36. Dan Casey | June 1, 2012 at 3:14 pm

    Scott A,

    Mark J can answer that better than I. I took it as a recommendation that older workers with substantial 401ks should get out of stocks and into bonds, for the time being.

    That’s pretty much what I did in June 2008. And then in March of 2009 I went all in on stocks. I more than doubled my retirement fund.

  37. Jack | June 1, 2012 at 3:33 pm

    Dave Hicks,

    My son and I bought a couple of 32oz Slurpees yesterday. I told the lady at the counter that those same Slurpees would be be illegal in New York City soon.

    She couldn’t believe it… government getting into our business like that.

    Well, that’s the big government people want, I guess. Probably the big government she thought she wanted.

  38. scott | June 1, 2012 at 3:42 pm

    I found my $3.04 gas in Harrisonburg when I was out there at a job site.

    $1.87 gas was an aberration, as only a few months prior, the national average was at its highest ever… $4.12/gal. I remember a weekend when several of the gas stations in roanoke/salem were selling gas for over $5/gallon.

    Yep. $1.87. Gee, I wonder what could have caused that.

  39. scott | June 1, 2012 at 3:44 pm

    And yes, Chuck, I was being sarcastic, because I haven’t been hearing all the conservative complaining about Obama and his gas prices since all the national media outlets were proven wrong about their $4/$5 gas price forecast.

    Obviously the president has little day-to-day control over the prices. But you wouldn’t believe that when the price goes over a certain psychological threshold.

    Psychological being the key term.

  40. Jack | June 1, 2012 at 3:47 pm

    Eric Holder is silly. There is no Constitutional Right to vote for President. Since 1964, there have only been a maximum of 538 votes cast in any election for President. I’m pretty sure nobody on here has cast any of them.

  41. pammala | June 1, 2012 at 3:59 pm

    Feds order Florida to halt ongoing push to remove ineligible voters from rolls

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/06/01/feds-order-florida-to-halt-ongoing-push-to-remove-thousands-voters-from-rolls/#ixzz1wZcZlPPg

    oh my, looks like bammy’s thugs are at it again….

  42. pammala | June 1, 2012 at 4:02 pm

    ‘pretend to govern’..honey, daily I am alarmed at your naivete. and how many golf games has bammy played and jobs has he destroyed? you are freakin blind, lol

  43. Dave Hicks | June 1, 2012 at 4:06 pm

    More reactions to Nanny Bloomberg’s proposal.

    http://tinyurl.com/85pjp5n

    **
    Bloomberg’s soda grab: reactions

    by Walter Olson on June 1, 2012

    The NYC mayor’s plan to limit sizes of sweetened drinks meets with a hail of dead cats from commentators:

    SNIP (comments with links)

    **

  44. Dan Casey | June 1, 2012 at 4:07 pm

    Right, pammala!

    Obama’s “thugs” are trying to prevent Fla. from disenfranchising 91-year-old WW2 heroes. and business owners who have been voting for 40 years.

    Here is the key graf from the story you linked (the emphasis is mine):

    “Florida, at the urging of Republican Gov. Rick Scott, began looking for non-U.S. citizens on its voter rolls last year. An initial search turned up as many as 182,000 registered voters who may not be U.S. citizens.

    Hey, just kick’em off because they “may not be” U.S. citizens. . . Woof!

  45. Jack | June 1, 2012 at 4:12 pm

    Pammala,

    Don’t you know it wouldn’t be fair if non-citizens weren’t allowed to vote.

  46. Kristen | June 1, 2012 at 4:25 pm

    In other news, Zmann’s bail was revoked for lying to the court about his assets. His wife explained to the court that they had intended the $155K in blood money they’d raised online for purposes other than bailing his fat ass out of jail, but the judge wasn’t buying it.

    Gotta admire a guy who wants to support himself and his wife by pimping out the corpse of a kid he shot dead in cold blood. Zmann’s just the sort of guy I wish I had patrolling MY neighborhood.

  47. Kristen | June 1, 2012 at 4:57 pm

    “and how many golf games has bammy played”…

    how many pammalla tell us

  48. Jack | June 1, 2012 at 5:00 pm

    Say what you want, Kristen, but so far all of the evidence supports his story.

  49. Dan Casey | June 1, 2012 at 5:01 pm

    “and how many golf games has bammy played”…

    I don’t even play golf and I know that “a game” is called “a round.”

  50. Hillary | June 1, 2012 at 5:06 pm

    #42 pamadoodle – just so you don’t always look so ignorant here is a small FACT to lay your ridiculous question of how many “jobs has he destroyed?” to rest.
    Read the linked article so you won’t embarrass yourself again – well at least on this issue.

    President Obama = 4 million jobs in 26 months.
    http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/05/obama-sees-emerging-consensus-on-eurozone-rescue-promotes-growth/

  51. Sandi Saunders | June 1, 2012 at 5:17 pm

    And you people have the gall to say I am “freakin blind”? There isn’t even a word for what you are. A black president has made you lose what little wits you had beyond doubt. You just make crap up and pretend it is real.

    pammala, you worry about Obama’s golf “games” when he lectures you about soldiers sacrifice and then tells you to “watch this drive”…mmmmkay? Those registered voters “might” not be citizens? Seriously? You “might” not have a brain so get off this blog!

    Jack, say what you want, the evidence so far makes Zimmerman a petty, lying sack of…

    And Jack, you keep right on railing against that “big government” REPUBLICAN mayor taking your soda.

    You are clearly desperate and pitiful!

  52. Jack | June 1, 2012 at 5:48 pm

    “Jack, say what you want, the evidence so far makes Zimmerman a petty, lying sack of…”

    One piece of evidence that his *family* lied. Many pieces of evidence that he killed Trayvon Martin in self-defense, which is what the trial is about.

    Sandi, when did Bloomberg become a Republican again?

  53. Dave Hicks | June 1, 2012 at 6:08 pm

    If it ever goes to SCOTUS, here’s a court case that some here need to think about.

    http://tinyurl.com/8x2pb5r

    **
    Jun 1, 4:25 PM EDT

    Judge considers Idaho anonymous comments lawsuit

    By NICHOLAS K. GERANIOS
    Associated Press

    COEUR D’ALENE, Idaho (AP) — A lawyer for a newspaper website argued Friday that people should be allowed to post anonymous comments on its blogs without fear of being identified and then sued.

    But a Republican political leader in northern Idaho, who is seeking the identities of three individuals who commented anonymously about her, argued that she was libeled by a comment and has the right to sue for damages.

    District Judge John Luster in Coeur D’Alene said he would rule later on whether a subpoena sought by Kootenai County Republican Central Committee Chairwoman Tina Jacobson against The Spokesman-Review newspaper should be quashed.

    SNIP
    **

    Could a Republican be the undoing of anonymous comments?

    Wonder how certain posters here would react to that?

  54. Dave Hicks | June 1, 2012 at 6:16 pm

    Re: Comment by Sandi Saunders — June 1, 2012 @ 5:17 pm

    http://tinyurl.com/7v6r2ra

    **
    Michael Rubens Bloomberg (born February 14, 1942, in Boston, Massachusetts[1]) is the liberal Mayor of New York City and the owner of Bloomberg, L.P., which licenses computer systems for real-time stock quotes to Wall Street and has news-related businesses. Even though he was a life-long registered Democrat, Michael Bloomberg successfully ran for mayor as a Republican in 2001 due in large part to the support of popular outgoing mayor Rudy Giuliani, and was reelected in 2005. He then switched to be an Independent and spent record-breaking sums to be reelected in 2009, paying the equivalent of $174.53 per vote (more than ten times his competitor).[2] Michael Bloomberg is also one of the richest people in the world according to Forbes magazine, with an estimated net worth of $17 billion. Michael Bloomberg is currently divorced and has 2 children.

    Bloomberg dropped his Republican Party affiliation on June 19, 2007, stating “I believe this brings my affiliation into alignment with how I have led and will continue to lead our city.”[3] Bloomberg is traditionally known as a fiscal conservative with social liberal tendencies. He was frequently mentioned as a possible independent candidate for the 2008 Presidential Election.

    SNIP
    **

  55. Jack | June 1, 2012 at 6:21 pm

    Dave Hicks,

    I can’t remember where I saw it the other day, but one state has already proposed legislation outlawing anonymity on the Internet. If I find it again, I’ll post a link.

  56. Jack | June 1, 2012 at 6:23 pm

    Here it is, Dave Hicks:

    http://goo.gl/ZXjo4

  57. Dave Hicks | June 1, 2012 at 7:47 pm

    Jack,

    Thanks.

    FWIIW, a NY (or any other individual State) law doesn’t bother me as much as a court case.

    State laws need State-by-State legislative action to spread and we as citizens get to weigh-in with our elective representatives.

  58. scott | June 1, 2012 at 8:53 pm

    If Anonymity were eliminated on this blog, all you’d hear is crickets.

    GUARANTEED.

  59. Sandi Saunders | June 1, 2012 at 9:36 pm

    I admit, I have no idea what Bloomberg is other than a well heeled bully, I did not remember him leaving the GOP too. Thanks for the info.

  60. Sandi Saunders | June 1, 2012 at 9:44 pm

    I think there are two sides on the internet anonymity issue. I have talked to so many people who say that the awful and hate filled things people are allowed to say here, from the safety of anonymity, is why they would never participate or only do so on a very limited basis. It frustrates even the regulars. I think that if some of the most egregious hate was not allowed the blog would get better.

    This blog is so popular for many reasons. Dan’s columns are great, his varied topics, photos, contests (you owe me an audio book Dan!!), great stories, music, (you owe me an audio book Dan!!), and most of all, his quicker post times and interaction with the blog. He includes us, encourages us and actually cares what some of us say and that matters a lot. Contrary to her brain dysfunction, I come here in spite of Suzie et al, not because of them.

  61. Sandi Saunders | June 1, 2012 at 9:44 pm

    Look at Jack, reading the HuffPo! Way cool Jack!

  62. Cold n P | June 1, 2012 at 10:10 pm

    Big test of CITIZENS UNITED SCOTUS ruling.

    Montana. Big Sky Country. States Rights. Has had a law on the books to keep corporate money out of statewide elections for over a hundred years With a law dubbed “The Corrupt Practices Act of 1912″

    http://peoplespowerleague.info/about/about.htm

    An outside insidiously murky group know as American Tradition Partnership has taken Montana to court claiming Citizens United trumps state law. The Wingnuts may be over reaching once again. SCOTUS just might rethink the turd storm their ruling has unleashed on the American Election Process.

    One can only hope this is the beginning of the end of this abomination perpetrated on America by Big Money. One can only hope.

    http://billingsgazette.com/news/state-and-regional/montana/state-urges-u-s-supreme-court-to-let-corrupt-practices/article_098883df-b438-5c73-94fd-63891bfc7201.html

    Oddly, “American Tradition Partnership, based in Washington, D.C., bills itself as “a no-compromise grassroots organization dedicated to fighting the radical environmentalist agenda.”

    So why is ATP sticking their noses in Montana’s internal election process? Right….

  63. Suzie | June 1, 2012 at 10:45 pm

    If Anonymity were eliminated on this blog, all you’d hear is crickets.

    GUARANTEED.

    Yep. It would be boring as hell. People with something to lose would be afraid to speak their minds.. All you’d be left with are crackpots used to being made fun of who have no skin in the game anyway.

    I

  64. Suzie | June 1, 2012 at 10:50 pm

    I think Bammy has played more rounds than any other president. He’s a 9-to-4 guy, I hear. Certainly not the work etheric GWB had. Up for a run or a ride and into the office by 7. Clinton used to saunter in at about 11, presumably after cavorting all night with women not his wife.

  65. Dan Casey | June 2, 2012 at 3:21 am

    “Big test of CITIZENS UNITED SCOTUS ruling.

    Montana. Big Sky Country. States Rights. Has had a law on the books to keep corporate money out of statewide elections for over a hundred years With a law dubbed “The Corrupt Practices Act of 1912″

    http://peoplespowerleague.info/about/about.htm

    An outside insidiously murky group know as American Tradition Partnership has taken Montana to court claiming Citizens United trumps state law. The Wingnuts may be over reaching once again. SCOTUS just might rethink the turd storm their ruling has unleashed on the American Election Process.

    One can only hope this is the beginning of the end of this abomination perpetrated on America by Big Money. One can only hope.”

    Funny, Cold: I haven’t heard the 10th Amenders screaming about this one. Have you?

  66. Kristen | June 2, 2012 at 8:05 am

    Jack, he was ordered back to jail for lying. That’s not me saying what “I want”…it’s what happened.

    As for “evidence”….the biggest piece of “evidence” is one dead unarmed child. I can’t say enough bad things about a guy who commits a murder (yes my word) then monitizes it, but whatever. I have a feeling he’s getting what’s coming to him.

    I cannot imaging a mechanism that would allow any regulatory body to check the identity of the millions of people on the www.

  67. Contrasuzie | June 2, 2012 at 9:35 am

    “I think Bammy has played more rounds than any other president. He’s a 9-to-4 guy, I hear. Certainly not the work etheric GWB had. Up for a run or a ride and into the office by 7. Clinton used to saunter in at about 11, presumably after cavorting all night with women not his wife.

    Comment by Suzie — June 1, 2012 @ 10:50 pm”

    ‘etheric’? LOL! Do ‘heroine’s’ have good work ‘etherics’? LOL!
    It’s always so easy to tell when the alcohol is really kickin’ in on Screwzie’s posts. LOL!

  68. Cold n P | June 2, 2012 at 10:02 am

    Imagine that, a red state saving us from the plutocracy SCOTUS has given us with Citizens United.

  69. Jack | June 2, 2012 at 11:22 am

    “If Anonymity were eliminated on this blog, all you’d hear is crickets. GUARANTEED.”

    +1

  70. Jack | June 2, 2012 at 11:24 am

    @Sandi: “I admit, I have no idea what Bloomberg is other than a well heeled bully, I did not remember him leaving the GOP too. Thanks for the info.”

    No problem. I’d be surprised if any party wanted a relationship with him at this point. You’re right, he is a bully. Second thing we’ve agreed on this week if I remember right.

    I’m drinking a 32oz Slurpee right now.

  71. Jack | June 2, 2012 at 11:26 am

    @Sandi: “Look at Jack, reading the HuffPo! Way cool Jack!”

    Actually, I don’t read it. I couldn’t remember which state was looking to ban anonymous commenting, so I Googled it and just posted the first result.

    I believe I had originally read about the anonymous comment ban on Gizmodo or Engadget, actually.

  72. Jack | June 2, 2012 at 11:33 am

    @Kristen: “I cannot imaging a mechanism that would allow any regulatory body to check the identity of the millions of people on the www.”

    I believe it would be the responsibility of the owner of the site (under the proposed NY legislation).

  73. Dave Hicks | June 2, 2012 at 2:17 pm

    Comment by Kristen — June 2, 2012 @ 8:05 am

    “I cannot imaging a mechanism that would allow any regulatory body to check the identity of the millions of people on the www.”

    and

    Re: Comment by Jack — June 2, 2012 @ 11:33 am

    ———-

    Kristen & Jack,

    Ever read about DHS’s “Media Monitoring Capability Mission”? Check out http://tinyurl.com/7xadtqp , http://tinyurl.com/cw8g576

    The FBI’s “Domestic Communications Assistance Center”? Check out http://tinyurl.com/bvbg5cx

    Also read http://tinyurl.com/yhg25f4

  74. Dave Hicks | June 2, 2012 at 3:14 pm

    More on Big Gulp? Meet Big Brother

    **
    Dear Mayor Bloomberg…

    by Walter Olson on June 2, 2012

    When you’ve lost even the New York Times editorial page on a nannyism venture, maybe it’s time to rethink. http://tinyurl.com/78uhoox

    When even New York Assembly Speaker Sheldon Silver comes off sounding libertarian and vowing to overturn your jumbo-soda ban, maybe it’s time to prepare a retreat. http://tinyurl.com/7cz3bgj

    Oh, well. At least you’ll always have The New Yorker. http://tinyurl.com/7b4n8xp

  75. Sandi Saunders | June 2, 2012 at 3:57 pm

    Whether your “identity” is known on a blog or not, it would be foolhardy for anyone to believe “Homeland Security” will not find you if they want you. Kinda like the idea that your guns prevent the government from doing anything. It is just laughable. We have had enemies within as well as without for our entire history. While there may seem little difference on the surface there is a difference in a blog fool and an enemy of the state, though one can certainly be both.

    Anonymity has indeed emboldened the stalkers, the bullies, the liars and the propagandists. There is no way to deny that. Bullies and stalkers will not be allowed to run roughshod forever and the restraints will doubtless include the liars, propagandists and bloggers. No help for it.

    If you want to spew hate, lies and insults, you should have to sign your name to it IMO. If it would have ramifications for you, that alone is a reason not to do so. Win/Win!

  76. Kristen | June 2, 2012 at 4:41 pm

    DaveHicks, the New Yorker piece pretty much slammed Bloomberg.
    I do agree with the author though about eschewing soda and saving the calories for beer.

  77. Suzie | June 2, 2012 at 5:27 pm

    If you want to spew hate, lies and insults, you should have to sign your name to it IMO. If it would have ramifications for you, that alone is a reason not to do so. Win/Win!

    Hon, you’re spared the consequences for your online ugliness because conservatives don’t give a crap, but if it were conservatives spewing the stuff you do and providing their identities, there’d be all manner of loons at their doorsteps and boycotts against their businesses.

  78. Sandi Saunders | June 2, 2012 at 11:09 pm

    In other words Suzie, conservatives never want to be responsible or be held responsible for their carnage. Nothing new under that sun, and no news there! Tell us something we don’t already know why don’t cha?

  79. Dave Hicks | June 3, 2012 at 12:06 am

    Re: Comment by Kristen — June 2, 2012 @ 4:41 pm

    The link I posted about the The New Yorker was by Jacob Sullum on Reason.com Jacob Sullum is a senior editor at Reason magazine and Reason.com and a dang good nationally syndicated columnist.

    Here is a link to the The New Yorker article, which might be tongue-in-cheek — but I don’t think so. As always YMMV.

    http://tinyurl.com/7o67zae

    **
    May 31, 2012
    In Defense of Nanny Bloomberg

    Posted by Alex Koppelman

    The Bloomberg administration’s plan to ban the sale of most sugary drinks bigger than sixteen ounces in New York City is nanny statism taken to its most ludicrous extreme. It’s a violation of personal liberty and the idea of individual responsibility. It’s the act of an arrogant billionaire who, not content merely to remake a city of millions in his own image, is once again looking down at his subjects and deciding he knows best.

    And it’s probably a pretty good idea.

    SNIP

    The federal government would never be able to do anything like this right now, not in this political climate, and not with this Congress. The state legislature tried and failed. But Bloomberg can. Worst-case scenario, it’s a miserable failure, it tarnishes his legacy, and his successor overturns it on day one in office. But the best-case scenario isn’t that difficult to achieve: the ban doesn’t have to work that well, or really at all, to be a success. Even if the ban does nothing but shift the discussion about what the government can do to protect the health of its citizens in his favor, Nanny Bloomberg will have won, and we’ll be better off for it.
    **

  80. Art Hill | June 3, 2012 at 12:15 am

    “Bammy”

    Freudian slip.

  81. Jack | June 3, 2012 at 12:55 am

    Homeland Security couldn’t find a security threat if it were in their own pants.

  82. pammala | June 3, 2012 at 7:40 am

    “conservatives never want to be responsible or be held responsible ”

    oh sounds like sandi never heard bammy speak

  83. Hillary | June 3, 2012 at 11:04 am

    #77 most ill-informed posted, “there’d be all manner of loons at their doorsteps and boycotts against their businesses”

    Yes, like the Christian right “loons” who post physicians’ names and addresses on their hate-filled websites so they can be murdered. Or position themselves outside of clinics with signs of hate to stop women from exercising their legal and Constitutional right… you are such a hypocrite.

  84. Debbie | June 3, 2012 at 12:06 pm

    Pammala, are you a high school graduate?

  85. Kristen | June 3, 2012 at 12:23 pm

    Sorry DaveH I misunderstood the source. Thanks for the heads up.

    I don’t know Jack…I feel a lot safer when they take apart some toddler’s stuffed cat or whatever. Striking quite the blow for security.

  86. dave | June 3, 2012 at 12:26 pm

    Debbie
    \
    Why would you want to insult high school graduates like that? :)

  87. Dave Hicks | June 3, 2012 at 1:44 pm

    Comment by Kristen — June 3, 2012 @ 12:23 pm

    No need for you to be sorry.

    I should apologize for the poor job I did of IDing links in my original comment.

  88. Suzie | June 3, 2012 at 1:49 pm

    Pammala really gets their goat with “bammy”. It’s pretty funny to watch.

  89. Debbie | June 3, 2012 at 3:29 pm

    If Pammala ever exhibited even a modicum of intelligence, I wouldn’t have asked the question.

  90. Debbie | June 3, 2012 at 3:43 pm

    Suzie, if you really cared about Pammala, you would tell her that appearing to be the granddaughter of Jethro Bodine isn’t a good thing.

  91. Hillary | June 3, 2012 at 4:23 pm

    #88 – and your nickname really gets [your] goat with “most ill-informed. You are right with this statement, “It’s pretty funny to watch.”

  92. gdad | June 3, 2012 at 5:23 pm

    #84 I’m certain that pammalalalalapdog has claimed to be a PH graduate, which, unfortunately, helps right wingers on this blog in their claim that public high schools don’t educate too well.

  93. Jack | June 3, 2012 at 8:40 pm

    @Kristen: “I don’t know Jack…I feel a lot safer when they take apart some toddler’s stuffed cat or whatever. Striking quite the blow for security.”

    Even *we* occasionally find something to agree on. :)

  94. Contrasuzie | June 3, 2012 at 9:25 pm

    “Debbie says:

    Suzie, if you really cared about Pammala, you would tell her that appearing to be the granddaughter of Jethro Bodine isn’t a good thing.

    Posted on June 3rd, 2012″

    Screwzie only cares about her pammalapdog every now and then when she lets her out of her crate to yip, yip, yip more nonsense. I kinda feel sorry for pammalapdog.

  95. Art Hill | June 3, 2012 at 9:54 pm

    “It’s pretty funny to watch.”

    Funny watching you trip up.

  96. John Wilburn | June 3, 2012 at 11:05 pm

    “And Jack, you keep right on railing against that “big government” REPUBLICAN mayor taking your soda.”

    While Bloomberg left the Republican party, he was always the best example of a RINO I’ve even seen. Totally authoritarian and anti-RKBA all the way. Sandi’s kind of Republican for sure.

  97. dave | June 4, 2012 at 2:17 am

    This is the image that comes to mind whenever I see one of pammalala’s posts:
    http://gma.yahoo.com/blogs/abc-blogs/mother-drives-5-week-old-top-car-164426051–abc-news-topstories.html

  98. Art Hill | June 4, 2012 at 3:28 am

    Somebody needs a couple of mods with the keys.

  99. scott | June 4, 2012 at 7:29 am

    Funny, I always picture that they installed some Internet Kiosks at Wal-Mart.

  100. Dave Hicks | June 4, 2012 at 5:28 pm

    Out of the hundred plus feed on Big Gulp? Meet Big Brother which I received today, this one caught my eye:

    http://tinyurl.com/6vr5j9d

    **
    Forget large sodas, how about banning French fries?

    By Mark A. Pereira, Special to CNN
    updated 4:22 PM EDT, Mon June 4, 2012

    SNIP

    Critics are crying that the move is an infringement on personal freedom. But the bigger question is: What’s the rationale behind targeting a single dietary factor in the sea of unhealthy foods and drinks that barrage us every day? Is it scientifically sound?

    A typical 16-ounce soft drink contains about 180 calories, nearly all from sugar. It doesn’t contain any fat. While Bloomberg’s ban will make it illegal to sell large-sized sugary drinks, it’s perfectly legal to sell plenty of other beverages (milkshakes, anyone?) and foods (how about some ice cream?) that pack far more calories per amount served as well as very high levels of fat, sodium or other laboratory-engineered chemicals.

    And what about the typical meal that goes along with a soft drink? A fast food meal contains tons of calories and is loaded with ingredients that are known to increase risks for diabetes and cardiovascular diseases. And, it is consumed in a matter of minutes.

    SNIP
    **

    In compliance with the Fair Use Doctrine I clipped a lot more about why it is dumb — albeit the (small “l”) libertarian in me scream about it being an authoritarian infringement on individuals’ freedoms.

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