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Sunday’s column: A lake is better than a pool any day

Loch Haven Lake in northern Roanoke County.

Carilion did the right thing last week by changing its ill-advised policy barring same-sex couples from joining the Roanoke Athletic Club and Botetourt Athletic Club as families.

The pity is, it took 40 days, a lawsuit and a torrent of criticism to accomplish that.

By now the facts are well known. Will Trinkle, a real estate agent who’s gay and is raising a child with a male partner, signed up for a family membership at the RAC May 15.

Nine days later in a telephone call, the RAC revoked it, under the reasoning that Trinkle and his partner didn’t qualify as “a family.” Carilion had claimed it was following Virginia law.

That was a crock, because Virginia law doesn’t define the term “family,” at least not yet. Nor has the General Assembly gotten around to prohibiting private businesses from granting such memberships to families headed by same-sex parents. (But give them some time. Del. Bob Marshall may be working on the bill as you read this).

So Trinkle filed a lawsuit, and the ensuing story made national news. By Thursday afternoon, at least 100,000 people from across the country had signed a petition at Change.org condemning the RAC and Carilion. The number more than doubled in a single day.

This brought the RAC more publicity than anything else in its history. And all of it was negative, aimed at a company that is by far the Roanoke Valley’s largest employer.

By extension, it made this region look like the kind of atavistic backwater that only the Rev. Fred “God Hates Fags” Phelps could be proud of.

The other pity, in my estimation, is that Carilion’s reversal probably means Trinkle’s young son will be spending much of the rest of his summer in a concrete, chemical-laden swimming pool. That poor kid.

There was another neat solution, had the lawsuit dragged on. Trinkle and his partner could have signed up at Loch Haven Lake, the swim club my family belongs to.

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  1. Kristen | July 8, 2012 at 8:03 am

    Not surprised Carilion recanted but as the piece points out its a little late. Why is it that when Roanoke hits the national news it’s for something embarrassing?

    Shame on Carilion and the RAC. Between that and the Plowshares debacle, Roanoke appears to be dragging itself backwards.

  2. Henry | July 8, 2012 at 8:08 am

    “By extension, it made this region look like the kind of atavistic backwater that only the Rev. Fred “God Hates Fags” Phelps could be proud of.”

    This is worse than the Holocaust. What kind of tooth-sucking corn-fed morons are stupid enough to live in a ghetto like Roanoke? What a bunch of slack-jawed fools to tread water in that sewer. This Trickle guy must be a real babbling idiot to live in that backwater. He may as well be selling condos in the Warsaw ghetto.

  3. Kristen | July 8, 2012 at 8:18 am

    Reading the tortured pitiful statement from Bud Grey about their “change in policy” , I sort of wish Trinkle and his partner for tell them to stuff their “household membership” and not drop the suit.

  4. Jp | July 8, 2012 at 9:10 am

    “Not that there’s anything wrong with that.”

    “My mother has never set foot in a natural body of water.”

    Jerry Seinfeld

    Less than three weeks until the show. Got your tickets yet Dan?

  5. A Beasley | July 8, 2012 at 9:51 am

    Wow Dan, this place looks great. The website is really nice too. Since I grew up in Henry, VA I’ve always preferred Philpott Lake to any pool.

  6. Suzie | July 8, 2012 at 10:33 am

    I know there are Catholics members because I am one.

    Really? Which mass did you go to this weekend and where?

  7. Alfred E. | July 8, 2012 at 10:42 am

    It looks a lot like Gatewood Resevoir. It is the source of the Town of Pulaski’s drinking water. They don’t allow swimming or gasoline motors on the lake. You can launch your own boat with an electric motor or rent one. They offer RV and tent camping as well as two primitive sites that are only accessible by boat.
    I take my kayak and after about ten minutes of paddling there are no signs of civilization. And no noise. As Dan would say, it’s meditative. Nature’s blood pressure pill.

  8. Shrillary | July 8, 2012 at 10:45 am

    #6 the Cafeteria-Catholic, challenging other Catholics. You can’t make this stuff up…

  9. Suzie | July 8, 2012 at 10:47 am

    A private club should be able allow to invite whomever they want. It’s really none of anyone else’s damn business.

  10. gdad | July 8, 2012 at 10:49 am

    #6 Look, suzie is trying to set new parameters of her own for being a Catholic. Now you have to have gone to mass this weekend to be a true believer. What a dolt.

  11. Contrasuzie | July 8, 2012 at 11:37 am

    “…able allow to…”

    Hungover or starting early?

  12. gdad | July 8, 2012 at 11:41 am

    #9 The RAC doesn’t “invite” people, Oliver. If you can pay, you’re in.

  13. mike scott | July 8, 2012 at 11:49 am

    A Beasly@5

    Philpott lake has the best swimming water ever. It’s one of the best kept secrets in the region. Until recently, I had some property there. Still go over from the Noke frequently to cool off. I recently introduced my wife to the Deer island experience: boat over, spend the day in cool cove away from the crowded beach and relax in the cool green water.

  14. scott whitaker | July 8, 2012 at 11:57 am

    Attitudes and laws are changing and change often comes slowly. I really don’t think Roanoke is that much different than most areas in their acceptance of gays. The Plowshare issue and this one were resolved. That’s hardly moving backwards.

  15. Kristen | July 8, 2012 at 3:47 pm

    Scott Whitaker, anywhere else these never would have been issues. But you’re right that they might not be indicative of moving backwards. It’s where Roanoke still is.

  16. Suzie | July 8, 2012 at 6:17 pm

    #6 Look, suzie is trying to set new parameters of her own for being a Catholic. Now you have to have gone to mass this weekend to be a true believer.

    Yep. Catholics have to go to mass every weekend. Fake Cathollics like Shrillary are surprised to learn that.

  17. Suzie | July 8, 2012 at 6:18 pm

    Wow. Kristen has posted, what, thirty times while “on vacation’? Talk about somebody who has a problem.

  18. Suzie | July 8, 2012 at 6:19 pm

    #9 The RAC doesn’t “invite” people, Oliver. If you can pay, you’re in.

    Apparently not, gomer, or there wouldn’t have been this flap.

  19. Kristen | July 8, 2012 at 6:37 pm

    SuzieQ, not to brag, but between us here in my house we have not only 4 laptops,but 3 smartphones and an iPad all with healthy data packages. As well as a house with wifi. No doubt you could drop off the face of the earth for 2 weeks without anyone noticing,but we still have work related matters to monitor. You’ve probably forgotten what it’s like for anyone to need you for anything.

  20. John Wilburn | July 8, 2012 at 6:48 pm

    “Yep. Catholics have to go to mass every weekend. Fake Cathollics like Shrillary are surprised to learn that.”

    Do you really take pride in trying to out-Catholic someone? Is there some kind of season points championship that NON-Catholics like me are unaware of?

    OMG.

    Instead of talking about mass, tell us what keeps one out of heaven and whether or not you’re going. If proud Catholic Suzie has the GUTS to answer, that is.

  21. Bob | July 8, 2012 at 7:15 pm

    This blog should be called DanPo. Censor happy wuss can’t handle the truth!!!!!!!

  22. Dan Casey | July 8, 2012 at 8:12 pm

    Yo Bob,

    Settle down, dude. Loosen up your panties or something. If you can keep the scatological references out of your comments, I might actually approve them.

  23. Shrillary | July 8, 2012 at 8:12 pm

    Speaking of “fake Catholics” like ‘most ill-informed’ who evidently likes to claim to be Catholic, preach to others on Catholic behavior, and, at the same time never practice it. Oddly,most ill-informed completely ignores the Catholic tenets of kindness, compassion and charity toward the less fortunate preferring the Old Testament version of a vengeful, punitive and wrathful god.
    Oh yeah, cafeteria Catholic, that one.

  24. Steve C | July 8, 2012 at 8:53 pm

    #9 posted “A private club should be able allow to invite whomever they want. It’s really none of anyone else’s damn business.”

    Comment by Suzie — July 8, 2012 @ 10:47 am

    suz’s lament brings to mind my recent stay in Greensboro NC. After work I was poking around downtown and stumbled across the International Civil Rights museum, housed in the immaculately restored old Woolworth building that was the site of the original lunch counter sit ins from 1960.

    suz’s comments about gays, not to mention her barely concealed racism, make it easy to extrapolate that 52 years ago she would have been braying the loudest that “A private business should be able to serve whomever they want. It’s really none of anyone else’s damn business”. The timeline is also pretty accurate since the ol’ battle ax would have been a H.S. senior if not maybe starting her freshman year studying domestic engineering at her local community college.

    Time marches on. Funning how ass-clowns like suz keep fight the same futile battles, desperately trying to stop progress. Back than it was the Negro problem. Of course we can never forget their epic 8 year battle against oral sex. Couple years ago it was the Muslim problem and than again in 2008 it became the negro problem one more time. Now it’s the gay problem. It must be sad to be so utterly powerless and eternally pissing into the wind trying to stop the inevitable. Maybe someday someone will open up a monument for the feeble minded so you can have your own museum.

  25. Suzie | July 8, 2012 at 9:35 pm

    Oddly,most ill-informed completely ignores the Catholic tenets of kindness, compassion and charity toward the less fortunate

    I’ve chronicled what we’re doing in one of the poorest countries of the world, hon. I realize you atheist liberals don’t think third-world people should have jobs or money.

  26. Suzie | July 8, 2012 at 9:38 pm

    SuzieQ, not to brag, but between us here in my house we have not only 4 laptops,but 3 smartphones and an iPad all with healthy data packages.

    Hon, the point is you have no life such that even on ‘vacation’ you are incapable of relating to the people you are supposedly with.

  27. Suzie | July 8, 2012 at 9:40 pm

    Do you really take pride in trying to out-Catholic someone?

    No, I just get annoyed when people attempt to speak for the Catholic viewpoint when they’re not practicing Catholics. Shrillary is the most guilty of that.

  28. Suzie | July 8, 2012 at 9:49 pm

    Roanoke is backward

    Which state had a referendum that approved gay marriage? California is supposedly the hippest iconic liberal mecca, and they defeated the measure.

  29. 13 Suns | July 8, 2012 at 10:33 pm

    If you’re looking for a fun, local sport to watch, I highly recommend going to a roller derby bout featuring Roanoke’s own Star City Roller Girls. I went to a bout this afternoon and it was very fun and exciting! Our hometown team lost this one, but everyone had a great time.
    I really got a kick out of the girls’ derby names: Daisy Claymore, Wrexella, and (my favorite) Lovely Rita Beatababe, among other creative names.
    Here’s their website, but it does seem to need some updating:

    http://starcityrollergirls.wordpress.com/

  30. John Wilburn | July 8, 2012 at 10:36 pm

    “scatological references”

    Oh geez…

  31. terps | July 8, 2012 at 10:58 pm

    i have been to Loch Haven 3 or 4 times. I never saw a black, asian or hispanic person. This has always bothered me. To think that my money may be contributing to a secret racist organization has been traumatizing to me. I am considering hiring John Fishwick to look into the situation.
    Ideally, we can find homosexual black, oriental and hispanic couples with children to join Loch Haven. Then all can live in liberal utopian bliss….free from harassing lawyers pretending to be morally superior.

  32. gdad | July 8, 2012 at 11:27 pm

    #18 “Apparently not, gomer, or there wouldn’t have been this flap.”

    Showing your ignorance once again, toots. All of the folks in the flap were welcome to join, just not as a family. So as I said, they didn’t have to be “invited.”

  33. gdad | July 8, 2012 at 11:29 pm

    #21 Wow, and now it’s “Bob” and “suzie” who are the only whiners complaining about being “censored.” They use the same insult and the same whines. Fancy that.

    BTW, Bobby boy, Dan deleting your nasty posts isn’t censorship. Maybe you should read up on what the word means.

  34. gdad | July 8, 2012 at 11:33 pm

    #17 OMG!!!!! 30 very short posts in a week!!!!!! That must have taken, what, 45 minutes out of her busy schedule of sitting around relaxing. How could she possibly ignore her family for that long !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  35. dave | July 9, 2012 at 12:43 am

    @#26

    No Suzie. The point is at least Kristen actually has someone to be with and relate to. And sometimes, you need a little break from that.

    @31 Terps.

    Oh hell, looks like terps finally got his power back on. Time for more OWS/Liz Warren/carilion attacks.

  36. Shrillary | July 9, 2012 at 8:02 am

    #27 No, I just get annoyed when people attempt to speak for the Catholic viewpoint when they’re not practicing Catholics. Shrillary is the most guilty of that. Comment by Suzie — July 8, 2012

    Speaking of attempting to speak for the Catholic viewpoint….I wonder what its fellow churchgoing Catholics would think of its “Catholic viewpoint”…it being soooo, you know, Catholic. A few favorites:

    “However, i don’t have as much sympathy for fake-poor fake-disabled 0bama-voting fatasses who demand accommodations at the expense of everyone else.”
    Comment by Suzie — December 13, 2011 @ 10:28 am

    “Let me ask it again. Why do you support paying for the fat-ass “poor” who sit on couches in mid afternoon and enjoy their taxpayer financed fast-food meals watching Judge Joe Brown over the truly starving people in Africa who are foraging for roots and boiling tree bark for food? ”
    Comment by Suzie — November 1, 2011 @ 10:53 am

    “I am so glad there are Christian establishments. I sure wouldn’t want some gothic dirtbag child of a liberal taking out his anger on the food being prepared.”
    Comment by Suzie — September 29, 2011 @ 9:58 pm

    Quotes worthy of a faux follower of Jesus, no? The poor priest who has to be in the confessional when most ill-informed waltzes in…

  37. gdad | July 9, 2012 at 9:35 am

    #36 And you don’t even include the multiple times she’s taken the Lord’s name in vain or even compared herself or folks like Rash to Jesus.

  38. Bob | July 9, 2012 at 10:16 am

    I had some real eye opening scatological references. Well, I’m off to the RAC! They removed ALL comments from out of town poster who had no business being there in the first place.

    Uncaged, Zac Brown Bands new CD comes out tomorrow. You’re welcome.

  39. Bob | July 9, 2012 at 10:18 am

    gdad. A touch nasty, mostly just factual. We’ll let it go at that.

  40. Dan Casey | July 9, 2012 at 10:42 am

    “Well, I’m off to the RAC! They removed ALL comments from out of town poster who had no business being there in the first place.”

    Huh? I trashed one disgusting comment from “Bob” and all of a sudden you would think this is 1930s in the Soviet Union.

  41. gdad | July 9, 2012 at 10:55 am

    #40 Oh good god, you mean Bob’s crying like a baby about one post? Hell, I’ve had three or four removed!!! And I’m a “leftie” (and a lefty).

  42. belle | July 9, 2012 at 1:43 pm

    We love Loch Haven and are there at least 4-5 days a week. You are never bored and you leave each time feeling like you have been on vacation. Best club membership in the valley by a long shot.

  43. Suzie | July 9, 2012 at 9:35 pm

    Quotes worthy of a faux follower of Jesus, no?

    Hon, Jesus didn’t pull punches and neither do I. He called hypocrites, Pharisees, and pompous big-government types out in no uncertain terms. He showed flashes of anger towards people who made a mockery of things holy, as he did in the marketplace.

    I am proud to be like Jesus.

  44. Suzie | July 9, 2012 at 9:39 pm

    #17 OMG!!!!! 30 very short posts in a week!!!!!! That must have taken, what, 45 minutes out of her busy schedule of sitting around relaxing. How could she possibly ignore her family for that long !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    How many total minutes a day do alcoholics actually spend putting the glass or bottle up to their mouths and drinking? Less than five? It’s how Kristen organizes her days, even while on vacation, to accommodate your psychosis that’s the issue.

  45. Dan Casey | July 9, 2012 at 10:12 pm

    Suzie is “proud to be like Jesus.” Snicker.

  46. Bob | July 9, 2012 at 10:23 pm

    Actually it was 2 Dan. I tried to post on today’s thread on a topic altogether different, it gave me the “You’ve already posted this bs”. I like to stick to the facts.

    Loch Haven is where the cheapskates at RT took us for a picnic 20+ years ago. It’s ok. If you want to get in shape, you can’t beat the BAC/RAC.

    Gays? I don’t hate them. If they wanna be queer, be queer! Their bullying tactics don’t set well with me, ie corporate shakedown. I don’t go posting who I’m having sex with on the net!

  47. 13 Suns | July 9, 2012 at 10:30 pm

    Funny. Most Christians say, “I strive to be like Jesus”, or “I pray to be more like Jesus”. I have never heard any Christian of any denomination flat out say, “I’m proud to be like Jesus” as if their spiritual journey were complete and they no longer need to seek God’s guidance in becoming a better person.

  48. gdad | July 9, 2012 at 11:15 pm

    #44 Silly little ignorant troll. As has already been explained numerous times by different people, with today’s various forms of technology, it doesn’t require any “organizing” of the day to get online and do whatever you want to do. You can do it from almost anywhere at almost any time. Even right there on the beach in front of everybody. Nothing at all like what an alcoholic goes through.

    I’m not sure why we keep expecting you to grasp this complicated technical computer stuff, though.

  49. John Wilburn | July 9, 2012 at 11:34 pm

    Suzie:

    “I am proud to be like Jesus.”

    The only thing you and Jesus have in common is that you both have a penis.

  50. Dan Casey | July 9, 2012 at 11:37 pm

    “Loch Haven is where the cheapskates at RT took us for a picnic 20+ years ago.”

    Really? Who?

  51. gdad | July 10, 2012 at 7:26 am

    #46 Is Bob a former RT employee???? Dan, I worked there the year the RT news had its summer picnic at Loch Haven. I think it was just the news and editorial departments but not sure. We also used to go to Bob Fishburn’s down in Franklin County and Jerry Atkins’ in Botetourt.

  52. Suzie | July 10, 2012 at 7:30 am

    #44 Silly little ignorant troll. As has already been explained numerous times by different people, with today’s various forms of technology, it doesn’t require any “organizing” of the day to get online and do whatever you want to do. You can do it from almost anywhere at almost any time. Even right there on the beach in front of everybody. Nothing at all like what an alcoholic goes through.

    It’s not a a question of where your computer is; it’s a question of where your mind is. Kristen apparently seeks any break she can get to go on her device and post in here. B/f is getting ready? She’s posting. Kids trying to tell her what they want to do for the day? Wait a second. Mommy’s posting. Someone’s talking to her? She’s not hearing. She’s thinking how she’s going to try to answer Suzie for embarrassing her in the blog. It’s not much different from alcoholism. Maybe an intervention…….

  53. Suzie | July 10, 2012 at 7:32 am

    Funny. Most Christians say, “I strive to be like Jesus”, or “I pray to be more like Jesus”. I have never heard any Christian of any denomination flat out say, “I’m proud to be like Jesus” as if their spiritual journey were complete and they no longer need to seek God’s guidance in becoming a better person.

    I am still striving. Jesus showed a lot of patients with morons. I continue to work on that.

  54. Suzie | July 10, 2012 at 7:36 am

    Dan comes in here and brags about his country club and his country club friends. I can’t help but think about the folks living near the La Cove restaurant who have sweltered the past two weeks. You’re not seeing those folks or people like them at Loch Haven. Libearls who make a living trying to sway the uneducated masses should try living like them for awhile.

  55. Dan Casey | July 10, 2012 at 8:19 am

    gdad, I reckon Bob could have worked in the mail room, or maybe he had a stint as an intern.

  56. gdad | July 10, 2012 at 9:01 am

    #55 Now that I rethink it, the picnic at Loch Haven might have been an entire newspaper event.

  57. Kristen | July 10, 2012 at 9:05 am

    I am still striving. Jesus showed a lot of patients with morons. I continue to work on that.”

    Awww how could I just desert you, SuzieQ, as I assist you in your ongoing struggle with the language?

  58. gdad | July 10, 2012 at 9:09 am

    #54 Loch Haven a “country club”? Loch Haven costs less for a year than 1 month at a country club. suzie continues to demonstrate her ignorance.

  59. gdad | July 10, 2012 at 9:10 am

    #53 ” Jesus showed a lot of patients with morons.”

    Hmm, I did hear something about Jesus healing the lame so I guess he did have “patients.”

  60. gdad | July 10, 2012 at 9:16 am

    #52 Look, suze, admit you don’t understand about being able to get online from anywhere you want and just give it up.

  61. 13 Suns | July 10, 2012 at 9:35 am

    “I am still striving. Jesus showed a lot of patients with morons. I continue to work on that.”

    Start by not referring to people as morons, or dumbasses, or libtards, or any of the multitude of disparaging names you use. Jesus never called anyone ugly names. Jesus got angry at the behavior of others and addressed their hypocrisy and their disrespect for God; He never called anyone a moron.

  62. Suzie | July 10, 2012 at 10:27 am

    The kids and b/f have their fishing poles ready to go out the door, and what’s Kristen doing? Back on the blog fretting about a typo?

    I’m sure there’s a 12-stepper for that.

  63. Sandi Saunders | July 10, 2012 at 10:57 am

    Suzie whines “Jesus showed a lot of patients with morons”. No doubt. He probably showed a lot of patience too! You are after all, still kicking.

  64. Sandi Saunders | July 10, 2012 at 11:06 am

    Suzie whines: “A private club should be able allow to invite whomever they want. It’s really none of anyone else’s damn business.” Then a few posts later she whines: “Dan comes in here and brags about his country club and his country club friends. I can’t help but think about the folks living near the La Cove restaurant who have sweltered the past two weeks. You’re not seeing those folks or people like them at Loch Haven. Libearls who make a living trying to sway the uneducated masses should try living like them for awhile.” Schizophrenic much?

    Terps, how many “black, asian or hispanic” people do you see at HVCC, RCC or the Shenandoah Club? Not counting the staff that is.

    Yeah Suzie, you should be “proud to be like Jesus.” No doubt He is “proud” of you.

  65. Sandi Saunders | July 10, 2012 at 11:09 am

    Suzie does not have friends to keep up with on her “lavish” vacays and therefore assumes no one else does! Sad, truly sad, but you made your bed of nails.

    BTW, what is your obsession with “the folks living near the La Cove restaurant”? Are they your brown skinned project to make a sister feel good or something? They are not laughing WITH you toots!

  66. Say What? | July 10, 2012 at 11:36 am

    I wonder if Suzie (and some others here) have read Matthew 12:36. It says, “And I tell you this, you must give an account on judgment day for every idle word you speak.” That probably goes for blogs, too.

  67. Blacksburg Suz | July 10, 2012 at 11:40 am

    Well said 13 Suns!

  68. gdad | July 10, 2012 at 11:56 am

    #62 Well, if my family had the fishing poles ready, I’d be telling them to have a good time without me. Talk about boring.

    But, Oliver, the good news is that if you do like fishing, you can fish and still check on the Internet. That’s what we’ve been trying to get through your thick head. Sorry you still don’t get it.

  69. Suzie | July 10, 2012 at 12:51 pm

    Gdad,
    Didn’t your parents teach you any manners? You are constantly involving yourself in conversations in which you weren’t addressed and weren’t invited. Every post which is made to anyone or from anyone, you feel the need to comment upon.

    When I was a college student, I had a landlord I used to pay in person. Sometimes we would discuss matters while his five-year-old was in the room. Invariably, the boy would interject some tangential point as little kids do, and instead of telling the child “That’s fine, but adults are talking right now, and we can discuss that later”, we had to make time for every rambling whim the child felt like bringing up, no matter how frequent they were and no matter how long they took until finally I had to step in and excuse myself.

    I think Gdad’s must have been brought up with that same laxity.

  70. Suzie | July 10, 2012 at 12:54 pm

    Start by not referring to people as morons, or dumbasses, or libtards, or any of the multitude of disparaging names you use. Jesus never called anyone ugly names. Jesus got angry at the behavior of others and addressed their hypocrisy and their disrespect for God; He never called anyone a moron.

    I believe Jesus referred to “hypocrites” The other words you mentioned weren’t invented yet. Yes, Jesus called a spade a spade. I pride myself on doing the same and behaving like Jesus.

  71. Suzie | July 10, 2012 at 12:57 pm

    Are they your brown skinned project to make a sister feel good or something?

    No dear, my “brown-skinned project” as you put it has moved across the ocean where the truly poor people live. As for NW City, I’m the only one here who has set foot in the La Cove. The lily-white self-righteous libs in here wouldn’t be caught dead in the place.

  72. Dan Casey | July 10, 2012 at 1:05 pm

    La Cove is closed.

  73. Suzie | July 10, 2012 at 1:06 pm

    Loch Haven a “country club”?

    LH offeres tennis, croquet, and bocce. I wonder how many NW City residents are members of a place where they play bocce. What’s next? Polo?

  74. Suzie | July 10, 2012 at 1:07 pm

    La Cove is closed.

    It was open for many years. Why have no liberals here ever darkened the door?

  75. Dan Casey | July 10, 2012 at 1:12 pm

    Never seen a game of bocce at Loch Haven. Might have seen someone play croquet there once in 20 years.

    Loch Haven is, in almost every respect, an anti-country club. Which is just the way we members like it.

  76. gdad | July 10, 2012 at 1:32 pm

    #73 The Elks offer bocce. And believe me, that’s no country club. Once again suzie is wrong.

  77. Shrillary | July 10, 2012 at 1:50 pm

    most ill-informed @ 70 “I pride myself on doing the same and behaving like Jesus.”
    Comment by Suzie — July 10, 2012 @ 12:54 pm

    I’m glad I read this hours after my lunch…would have thrown it up otherwise…bad enough I gagged.

  78. gdad | July 10, 2012 at 2:08 pm

    #69 Oliver, when adults are at a function and somebody makes a comment to the gathering in general or a subgroup, there’s no need to wait for an invitation to jump in. I notice that you don’t hesitate to inject your fantasies and lies completely “uninvited.”

    For instance, who exactly “invited” you to comment on Kristen’s vacation posting habits? She wasn’t even addressing you on this thread and yet you just had to insult her. I’m guessing your parents brought you up thinking this kind of rudeness was perfectly OK. What a shabby childhood you must have had.

  79. gdad | July 10, 2012 at 2:16 pm

    #74 Good god, Oliver, you’re not going to try to revive this lie, are you? We destroyed you on this two years ago. You were such a great patron of the place that you didn’t even know then that it had closed. We had to point it out to you.

  80. Kristen | July 10, 2012 at 4:22 pm

    Gdad, I don’t love fishing, but I did get a clam rake today and am going to drag my entourage out tomorrow am at low tide to watch me scrape around in the sand and collect dinner!

    Last week we sent 5 victims out on a 10 hour excursion into the gulf stream and they came home with 125 lbs of mahi and sea bass. We just about broke even.

  81. Ron May | July 10, 2012 at 6:16 pm

    74.La Cove is closed.

    It was open for many years. Why have no liberals here ever darkened the door?

    Comment by Suzie — July 10, 2012 @ 1:07 pm

    Probably because they knew you were going to be there. :)

  82. Ron May | July 10, 2012 at 6:18 pm

    Kristen,

    Where are you doing your clamming? Two of my son went out Friday & Saturday off the coast of Virginia’s Eastern Shore and caught several yellow fin tuna, mahi dolphin, but no sea bass.

  83. 13 Suns | July 10, 2012 at 6:36 pm

    “I believe Jesus referred to “hypocrites” The other words you mentioned weren’t invented yet. Yes, Jesus called a spade a spade. I pride myself on doing the same and behaving like Jesus.

    Posted on July 10th, 2012″

    So are you saying that had those words been invented, Jesus would’ve called people dumbasses and morons?  Do you not realize that derogatory terms and insults were used in Jesus’ day?  

    No matter.

    But now that you’ve engaged me on this topic, how about answering my other question from July 9:

    “I have a question for Miss Suzie, our own decider of all things Christian and Catholic. My question concerns your ‘truth’ that men run the world and the most attractive women marry those powerful men. The question is simple. Is that God’s plan for how things are supposed to work here on Earth?”

    Of course, when you ignore it yet again, that will be your real answer.

  84. Bob | July 10, 2012 at 9:07 pm

    Circulation. The snoots like Frosty and the gang are too elite to associate with the common folks. How dare you look down on your union buddies who actually MAKE the paper.

    As I said before, the RT was run great under Rugaber. “We” know the current editors far left views.

    AP: Roanoke Times endorses Barack Hussein Obama for president! I called it first!!

    Do you know where Wayne Deel is? Florida?

  85. Warren | July 10, 2012 at 9:52 pm

    1) Speaking of lakes, does anyone else here remember SML when the Barnard farm still stood where Bernard’s Landing is, and the gorgeous view of it from VISA?

    2) Can anybody update me on the current status of the North Lakes Swim Club site since it was sold at auction a year or so ago?

  86. Suzie | July 10, 2012 at 9:56 pm

    “I have a question for Miss Suzie, our own decider of all things Christian and Catholic. My question concerns your ‘truth’ that men run the world and the most attractive women marry those powerful men. The question is simple. Is that God’s plan for how things are supposed to work here on Earth?”

    Of course, when you ignore it yet again, that will be your real answer.

    I haven’t answered it because a dumb question that has nothing to do with anything and one whose answer is impossible to know. It’s like asking if a person with great natural athletic abilities is meant, according to God’s will,to be a professional athlete. Maybe or maybe not.

  87. Steve C | July 10, 2012 at 10:05 pm

    Bob, stop huffing bath salts.

  88. gdad | July 10, 2012 at 11:15 pm

    #84 Come on now, Bob, I knew folks in every department of the paper.

    Rugaber was pretty liberal himself, but he was a great journalist.

  89. John Wilburn | July 10, 2012 at 11:57 pm

    Suzie:

    “I pride myself on doing the same and behaving like Jesus.”

    I have a box of 16 penny nails and a big maple tree. Knock yourself out.

  90. Contrasuzie | July 11, 2012 at 1:11 am

    Wilburn @ #89:

    +1!
    My hat’s off to you, buddy! Excellent.

  91. Suzie | July 11, 2012 at 6:28 am

    low tide

    Meaning the Bluestone River is down because of the semi-drought. B/f’s mom’s creekside trailer is safe for now at least.

  92. Suzie | July 11, 2012 at 6:33 am

    #69 Oliver, when adults are at a function and somebody makes a comment to the gathering in general or a subgroup, there’s no need to wait for an invitation to jump in. I notice that you don’t hesitate to inject your fantasies and lies completely “uninvited.”

    For instance, who exactly “invited” you to comment on Kristen’s vacation posting habits? She wasn’t even addressing you on this thread and yet you just had to insult her. I’m guessing your parents brought you up thinking this kind of rudeness was perfectly OK. What a shabby childhood you must have had.

    We’ll make a new ground rule, skippy. Whenever I ‘address the group’, I mean everybody but you. And obviously whenever I address someone specifically or someone address me specifically, you are to stay the hell out of it. Got it?

  93. Suzie | July 11, 2012 at 6:38 am

    #74 Good god, Oliver, you’re not going to try to revive this lie, are you? We destroyed you on this two years ago. You were such a great patron of the place that you didn’t even know then that it had closed. We had to point it out to you.

    See now here’s a prime example, Gdad. This was clearly in response to Dan. You do not need to answer for Dan. He’s a big boy. Nobody asked for your input, and nobody wants it. From this point on, practice. See how many conversations you can avoid butting in on. Make it a game.

  94. crooked road | July 11, 2012 at 8:33 am

    Whenever I read these threads, I always wonder what kind of retainer Dan pays Suzie. She certainly makes his blogs profitable. 75+% spent on arguing the cliches, while the other is spent on relevance.

    I’d have to spend a week with ‘her’ to believe ‘her supposed story’, but there are indeed some people in this world that twisted. I just don’t think she’s one, I still believe she’s a caricature.

  95. gdad | July 11, 2012 at 9:00 am

    #93 “This was clearly in response to Dan”

    Sorry, doofus, whether or not it was in response to Dan, you then addressed every liberal reading it. Fair game. And because it’s an idiotic meme you’ve foisted on the whole blog in the past, it’s fair game anyway. And because you’re just a useless troll, it’s fair game anyway.

    I’ll respond to anything you post any damn time I want. Got it, toots?

  96. gdad | July 11, 2012 at 9:23 am

    #91 See, suzie, that comment from Kristen was directed to me. What the hell are you doing butting in with an insult? Your momma must have been one rude rube. From now on you can just keep your piehole shut. Got it?

  97. 13 Suns | July 11, 2012 at 10:06 am

    I hereby rescind Miss Suzie’s new ground rule and grant gdad permission to respond to every post she makes.

    (Not that you need my permission, gdad, but I figured since Miss Suzie can give herself the authority to make rules, I can give myself the authority to rescind them.)

  98. 13 Suns | July 11, 2012 at 10:08 am

    “I haven’t answered it because a dumb question that has nothing to do with anything and one whose answer is impossible to know. It’s like asking if a person with great natural athletic abilities is meant, according to God’s will,to be a professional athlete. Maybe or maybe not.

    Posted on July 10th, 2012″

    Hon, it has to do with your comment about men running the world and the most attractive women who are married or with them.  You said that it’s ‘just the way it is’.  It’s not like talking about a talented athlete, because talented athletes don’t run the world.  But let me try to rephrase the question a little bit.  Since you say it’s ‘just the way it is’, and you seem to have no problem with that being the case, IN YOUR OPINION, is that because it’s God’s will for the world He made?  Does God want the majority of women who are in positions of power vicariously through the men they marry or date, etc. to be attractive according to our secular standards?  Is it ‘just the way it is’ because it’s part of His divine plan?

  99. gdad | July 11, 2012 at 1:16 pm

    #97 Thanks, 13 Suns. Suzie is always trying to shut up people whose opinions she doesn’t like and she particularly dislike being called out on her lies. Eventually she just turns into a whiner.

  100. Sandi Saunders | July 11, 2012 at 2:01 pm

    We’ll make another “new ground rule”, queeny: YOU “stay the hell out of it”, no matter the thread, the topic, the posts or the poster! Unlike you, I will even be democratic and we can put it to a vote.

  101. Ron May | July 11, 2012 at 2:15 pm

    Eventually she just turns into a whiner.

    Comment by gdad — July 11, 2012 @ 1:16 pm

    Are you sure you didn’t mean “weiner” gdad?? :)

  102. Steve C | July 11, 2012 at 2:52 pm

    I nominate 13 Sons as the board’s new Queen by virtue of her superior intellect.

  103. 13 Suns | July 11, 2012 at 3:01 pm

    Glad to help out, gdad.

    Steve C, why thank you! I’m honored and flattered.

    :-D

  104. gdad | July 11, 2012 at 4:28 pm

    #101 Well, that too, Ron,

  105. dave | July 11, 2012 at 5:31 pm

    @#69

    Once again Suzie proves just how little she knows about raising children and why its a good thing she never had any (If, in fact, that’s not also a lie like almost evrything she has posted).

  106. Dave Hicks | July 11, 2012 at 6:09 pm

    Re: Comment by Rants & Raves (w/lies) — July 10, 2012 @ 1:07 pm

    “It was open for many years. Why have no liberals here ever darkened the door?”

    ———

    Do you have any evidence to backup that assertion?

    Who vetted the customers? What records were kept? Where can they be examined.

    Statements posted in a declaratory manner should be supportable, IMHO.

  107. Contrasuzie | July 12, 2012 at 2:50 am

    Sandi, I vote ‘yes’. Do you need to see my driver’s license? :)

  108. gdad | July 12, 2012 at 9:42 am

    #106 Throw in the fact, Dave H, that La Cove’s clientele was overwhelmingly black, and since black Roanokers overwhelmingly vote Democrat, it’s a solid bet that MANY liberals “darkened” (nice, suzie) La Cove’s door.

    suzie really is quit doltish.

  109. gdad | July 12, 2012 at 9:45 am

    BTW, Dan, now that it’s been mentioned, you should lobby to have bocce added to the activities at Loch Haven. It’s a good drinking game. Some of the good old boys at the Elks swear by it.

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