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Besides the falsehoods (Obama has raised taxes on the middle class; wants to raise them on small business; and more) it left me kind of flat.
He promised change and offered hope. So what?
August 30, 2012 - 11:57 PM
An evening wasted; I’m sitting here looking at my fleshly charged 18V cordless drill and the rusty drill bit that I could have productively been using to do some home dentistry with, and instead I fritter away a perfectly good Thursday watching Mitt flex his eyebrows.
As expected, short on substance. Steered away lots of issues too. Clint Eastwood was an insult to the American voter, but widely entertaining in a bad for Mitt sort of way.
i wanted to believe in Romney in the beginning. country is in very bad shape. you see more people selling cars on the road traveling than normal. newer models but kinda reminds ya of the depression. unemployment is through the roof. we wont get away from china and their crap. too many politicians bought off. that being said- they go and get ryan on the ticket. needed a minority or a female to get votes. very dumb move. obama can go fishing till november. mitt is clueless. is that the best two the republicans can come up with in the whole united states? obama will slide for 4 more years doing the minimum. lame ducky. but i will vote for him. reason- lesser of two evils. in 2016 we will have environmental improvements but no jobs and the banks will be spiraling outta control. sounds pretty dim, huh? what do you want me to say- happy days are here again? only for those damn chinese….
Romney tried to make himself appear human. Almost succeeded then torpedoed himself with his war mongering. America is sick of war. 2 generations of our youth have been spent in constant conflict. I love our soldiers, but I hate our wars. These wars need to be ended and the resources of this nation focused on rebuilding America. We do not need to re-ignite the cold war with Russia, piss China off and have them call in our debt and top it off with War in Iran. No thank you, I’ll stick with the devil I know.
I would rate Romney’s speech as better than expected but not good enough.
CLASS ACT. The next President.
Mitt needed to connect. He didn’t. David Brooks called the speech “less than history making” while the balloons were still falling. Clint is an icon, but he did more harm than good. C-.
Terps,
What was classy about the falsehoods he told? Or are lies part of the RWer definition of “class act” these days.
Actually, if it was that would explain a lot.
If I may diverge just a little…on Eastwood..
..If the Dems respond by doing a turnabout and decide to talk to an empty suit they’ll have to use Romney in the chair. And im sure if the money is right he-ll do it.
Dan Casey, and most of the rest of the media have no clue, and don’t want Mitt Romney or a Republican in office, no matter who it might be. All you guys can do is down play and criticize his speech and what he said or didn’t say. Um what promises did Prez NObama make 4 years ago?? Has accomplished any of them, besides NObamacare??? NOPE!!! Jobs are worse, economy worse, healthcare worse, homeland security worse… I mean come on people… NObama has done nothing for us, except take family trips in Airforce One, and play golf, and allow dictators of other countries tell US what to do… Do you really think that if he gets voted back in he is gonna do anymore?? Think about it… The first 4 years, he just has to lay low and pretend he is trying to do so much, but try and keep his head down so that he can get re-elected by not pissing anyone off.. The next 4 years, what does he have to loose?? NOTHING!!!! So he is gonna do what he wants when he wants, because he doesn’t care if you get mad or not…
Clint Eastwood the ICON was correct, when someone’s not doing their job, you replace them… It happens everyday here at my work, and would happen to me.. If I don’t do my job, I am fired and replaced by someone else… And if they don’t do it, the same fate awaits them… Just because NObama was voted in 4 years ago, does not mean he must be voted in again.. He has not done his job, so its time to try something else.
And you say Mitt isn’t giving you answers… I would rather him just tell me what he wants to do, like he is doing, than to give me open promises like the last joker NObama did, and then not do anything..
And stop bashing Mr. Eastwood.. I thought he was great.. The man is 82 years old, and gets up on stage in primetime tv, and just wings it.. I give him respect for that.. He doesn’t need a teleprompter, or a speech written for him, he just speaks from the heart, and was actually a nice change of pace.. Not a typical all facts, and perfectly worded script, told so professionally… Just a guy up there speaking and being funny..
And hello??? You wanna dog Mr. Ryan for a few fact mistakes?? Um, were you guys not present when DUMBA$$ Biden thought Danville was in North Carolina, or that he told Tech students, we are going to lead the world into the 20th century??? Talk about needing an education… I thought you were supposed to be smart to be a high gov’t official… Guess not..
So before you all keep bashing Mr. Romney, Mr. Ryan, and Mr. Eastwood, take a look at the other side the fence and see what you have, and have had for the past 4 years… And I mean truly look, don’t look through your Liberal Eyeglasses, look with the naked eye…. Are we really any better off than we were 4 years ago?? Has our current President really done anything the last 4 years?? Is it time we give someone else a chance??? And hey, since everyone, including our current president seems to thing that jobs in America is what is needed to kick start the economy, then why not let someone who is a business leader, and has made a fortune starting and running and saving companies a chance to help recover America…
Thank you for allowing me to express my concerns, and for the record, I am neither a Republican nor Democrat..I am an Independent…I am myself, and I vote for who I think will do the best job, and again like Clint said, if they ain’t doing the job, its time for them to go and give someone else a crack at it.. Its time for everyone to stop playing party lines and fighting with each other, and start working together to fix the problem..
Conservative pundits panning Romney’s convention speech. Rats off a sinking ship…
outside of the direct falsehoods….and the omission of real specifics….the speech showed just how dishonest and ineffective romney really is……kind of like when his wife spoke of how hard women had it…..of course she was talking about other women besides herself…..just a typical wannabee
David Brooks
LOL.
He will get my vote based off his history of success. What has B.O. succeeded in? I think everyone is concerned with the “perfect” candidate that will fix everything. That’s not coming folks. The media hyped B.O. into the second coming of the messiah, but they media is the only place he is revered as so. Romney made a good point about saying all the things that B.O. could say, but the one thing he couldn’t say is that the country is better off 4 years after his first term.
Mission accomplished for anyone who watched all or most of the speakers last night. Clint’s shtick was uncomfortable at best but immediately forgotten once Rubio made his speech. Solid performance to show the human and honest side of Mitt. Chalk another 3 points onto Mitt’s landslide victory.
You are just so wrong Dan. I talked to a number of very smart well educated successful people last night and everyone said he hit a home run. Obama has failed miserably. Obama economics simply don’t work. Look at the GDP, unemployment, and debt. I think Romney stands a fair chance of winning.
Once he again he failed to deliver. He told us he had a plan to get 12 Million people working but he failed to tell us the plan. Since Romney is such a “great” businessman, I’m suprised he so horrible at interviews. If he were applying for CEO of Bain Capital and he told them he had a plan but then didn’t tell them the plan he wouldn’t make it back for a second interview.
Terps, were going to have to rename you “Baghdad Bob”.
Dan wants Rmoney to roll over and play dead like Mcain. Dan wants Obama and Biden to keep portraying Romney and the republicans as greedy racists who’s sole intent in life is to keep the poor and middle class down.
Mcain went along with the narrative. Rmoney and Ryan are fighting back. Republicans are not supposed to fight back, so Dan brands them “liars.”
If you want to know how well this election is going for Rmoney, just watch how extreme Dan’s rhetoric gets. I would put him at an 8 on the unhinged scale right now. When Dan gets to a “10″, the election is over…..it’Rmoney in a landslide.
#7….Dan Casey….yeah, it’s a shame that lies only come from the right. Obama and the left have never told one. I don’t know why we all can’t be more like them. They are so honest and such good people. Can’t remember a left-winger ever telling a lie. Get real Dan. Are you that much of a buffoon? The left has made it their platform to lie about everything to the point that ignorant people like yourself actually believe them. What’s the lie….that unemployment is ridiculously high under this non-leader….that the debt and deficit are at all-time highs….that gas prices are double what they were under Bush? No more needs to be said…this president is worthless!!!
“The president said he would slow the rising oceans… that he would heal the earth… I will help you and your family!”
SLAM DUNK
GAME OVER
Romney claims that republicans wanted Obama to succeed. Mitch McConnell stood up in Congress and for the record said that the Republican Congressional agenda would be solely focused on guaranteeing Obama’s failure and the denial of a second term. The combination of Bush policies and ensuing Republican obstructionism has severely hindered the recovery.
Great speech.
As I said yesterday, liberals and the truth have never met. So how could they possibly understand or know each other?
This was my favorite line from last night.
“President Obama promised to begin to slow the rise of the oceans and heal the planet. MY promise…is to help you and your family.”
Great for many reasons. It illustrates how absurd Obama’s ego and rhetoric was in 2008, and how devastatingly blind and impotent Obama has been with regards to America’s REAL ISSUES.
Obama is the Wizard of Oz…a guy who lied to get where he is without ever actually accomplishing anything. An insecure snake-oil salesman just like his Mom and absentee biological father. A guy who uses FEAR and intimidation to scare away opposition. In the end…a sad, sad failure of a little man who is forced live in reality.
I would gladly accept Obama’s apology and I would buy him the biggest hot-air balloon I could find.
Look at all these Repubs, including Romney, using TELEPROMPTERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!Disgusting. Can’t they be genuine?
Once again Obama does everything he can to shut down all drilling for oil.
“Shell gets OK for Arctic drilling prep”
http://money.cnn.com/2012/08/30/news/companies/shell-arctic/index.html?hpt=hp_t3
I didn’t watch it.
I didn’t watch Romney’s speech, but I managed to suffer through Clint Eastwood’s. It was sad to see him in that situation.
I think the debates, however configured, will be quite interesting.
How can one argue that Obama has NOT raised taxes on the middle class? Obama’s Healthcare program was deemed a tax, thanks to his attorneys who argued that it *was* a tax. That, Mr. Casey, amounts to a massive middle class tax increase.
Dont worry everyone I bought the kleenex and lotion for the DNC next week. We’re all set!
Michael,
Does lying about Obama and having NO specifics about his own “plan” constitute a home run?
As a side point, I actually believe that he included all the specifics he needed regarding job growth. If the US pumps up its domestic energy production through the various ways that Romney cited in his speech, many experts have gone on record as saying that we could return to $1 gasoline for the next 30-40 years. I believe that cheap, domestically produced energy would result in a huge boom period for our economy…beside the jobs that would be produced in the energy sector, it would free up incredible amounts of capital for business growth and job growth. It would also immediately help the lower class, by lowering food costs.
I think it was Paul Ryan who put it this way: Obama is too concerned about dividing up the pie differently. Rather than looking at it in those terms, he should be concerned about growing the size of the pie, then everyone wins. I believe that cheap, domestic energy would do exactly that.
Even FOX can see through Ryan and company.
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/08/30/paul-ryans-speech-in-three-words/#ixzz251rvLkSe
Dan, does lying about Republicans “lying” and defending the Wizard of Oz constitute liberalism?
Yes…yes it does! LOL.
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This is an entertaining and truthful piece.
“Ryan and His Panicky Critics”
“These criticisms of Ryan’s speech are absurd. Everything Ryan said is factual and a fair reading of the record and prior events.”
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/315508/ryan-and-his-panicky-critics-james-c-capretta
“The president said he would slow the rising oceans … that he would heal the earth … I will help you and your family!”
The first two things in this phrase are totally made-up RWer strawman BS. Which makes me think the third is, also.
Or maybe he was mentally addressing the Koch Bros. when he said it.
Dan,
You could say the same about Obama four years ago. “He promised change and offered hope. So what?” Romney actually said a lot more. Look at all he has said in the inspiring life he has led.
I’m looking forward to ‘real’ hope and change this November.
“How can one argue that Obama has NOT raised taxes on the middle class? Obama’s Healthcare program was deemed a tax, thanks to his attorneys who argued that it *was* a tax. That, Mr. Casey, amounts to a massive middle class tax increase.”
Romney said Obama raised taxes on middle class families.
RP, because you are totally anonymous, I’m sure you won’t mind telling us exactly how much he raised your taxes by in 2011, in terms of dollars and percentage.
But you’re unable to do that, aren’t you? That’s why I call it a lie.
Who was lying? Maybe it was MSM. Good job guys.
http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/083012-624188-so-called-fact-checks-disguise-media-liberal-agenda.htm?src=HPLNews
I don’t give a damn about 90% of the things Presidnet Obama is/has promised. It is all about creating a pro business environment and growing the economy
Unfortunately, Dan, you are wrong again. It took me 30 seconds to locate the Obama quote on the oceans and planet via Google. Obama said this exact statement in his acceptance speech in St. Paul, MN at the 2008 Democratic Convention:
“Because if we are willing to work for it, and fight for it, and believe in it, then I am absolutely certain that generations from now, we will be able to look back and tell our children that this was the moment when we began to provide care for the sick and good jobs to the jobless; THIS WAS THE MOMENT WHEN THE RISE OF THE OCEANS BEGAN TO SLOW AND OUR PLANET BEGAN TO HEAL; this was the moment when we ended a war and secured our nation and restored our image as the last, best hope on Earth.”
A full link to the speech is below:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/06/03/obamas-nomination-victory_n_105028.html
Dan,
President Obama has been a huge failure, don’t know how you can deny that.
A commenter wrote: “It’s not Romney who has killed more brown people and Americans than any first term president this century. Your boy did that.”
The words “your boy” meaning President George W. Bush, of course.
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Dan…watch this.
Obama’s words are pretty clear. “THIS (MY election) was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal…”
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xhisct_obama-thinks-he-can-control-the-oceans-2008_news
Obama looks like the Straw Man…or the Scarecrow. But…the scarecrow was witless and accidental.
Obama is deceitful, corrupt…and sad.
Obama is the Wizard/Snake-Oil salesman.
Dan; President Obama did say “this is the day that we will remember that the oceans stopped rising and the earth began to heal” in I think his acceptance speach. The way he phrased it was due to him being elected. Google it man. The leftys on this blog are in the Twilight Zone. How can you not say it is time for someone else to have a go at it? How can you say we can handle 4 more years of the current administration? What plan does President Obama have for jobs? Spend more money? Create more debt? Funny no specifics have come out of our President while he campaigns the last 12 months.
Dan,
Not that I care or it matters but check out Walkers link. President Obama has nothing to run on, no accomplishments only blame to others and class ware fare. That’s all he’s got, oh yea and calling Mr. Romney and Mr. Ryan liars. Don’t think it’s going to work this time. Hope and Change, yea all we have left is change.
From the comments here, I gather that the right’s expectations of Rmoney are so low that they are easily met or superceded.
“THIS WAS THE MOMENT WHEN THE RISE OF THE OCEANS BEGAN TO SLOW AND OUR PLANET BEGAN TO HEAL; ”
He’s talking about curbing climate change. The oceans are rising, no mistake. Heck, VA Beach has already created a map of how they expect the rising tide to effect their cities. Are RWers so slow and out of touch with reality that this is unknown to them?
Great post RP. Typical President Obama BS that no one in business cares about.
In my opinion, oh boy what a convention! about Romney… he presents the best hope for jobs among the 2 candidates. obama’s focus has been on soaking the rich, and delivering free rubbers to any woman who wants them. romney’s focus will be on getting Americans back to work.
if Romney loses to obama, rome will burn while we listen to fiddle music.
Fake!!!! He makes a great puppet for the upper class and the right wing politicians. Also, What’s up with Clint Eastwood’s speech?? Was he drunk or is he just that senile. Nothing surprising anymore.
Hedge Fund Hack.
Another GREAT line.
“You know there’s something wrong with the kind of job he’s done as president when the best feeling you had was the day you voted for him.”
Mitt Romney
No accomplishments? Democratic site, but everything is easily verified.
http://www.democratichub.com/obama-administration-accomplishments.aspx?o=lw
#36 Wow, Walker, that was some truly impressive and comprehensive stuff. Not.
Of course these claims will become more common because the non-partisan factcheckers are are discovering that nearly every Romney or pro-Romney ad is packed with lies and distortions. It’s gotten a tiny bit embarrassing for the Repubs, although that won’t stop the tidal wave of untruths.
“He’s talking about curbing climate change. The oceans are rising, no mistake. Heck, VA Beach has already created a map of how they expect the rising tide to effect their cities. Are RWers so slow and out of touch with reality that this is unknown to them?”
Kristen, the answers to your question is: No, this is not unknown to them. But many of them are desperate to ignore it — so desperate that some RWers sponsor legislation about coastline studies that outlaw terms like “rising sea levels.”
Didja get that? They want to outlaw the use of such words in state legislation. It makes you wonder if one day, one of them won’t put up a bill that outlaws used of the term “contraception” in legislation referencing the pill.
Kristen, we know exactly what he’s talking about, and we think climate change is BS.
The utter right wing ignorance of what a President can do, what an economic crunch most of the world is in, and the reality of what creates jobs is truly astounding. No wonder you think the speeches and this convention was a success.
I thought Va. Beach created a plan about how rising tides will ‘affect’ their cities??!?
@47 – Besides being 82 I thought it was great! WE OWN THIS COUNTRY!
The RW keeps spouting that Romney is their hope for jobs,m yet he has no history of creating jobs. He is a hedge fund investment banker who keeps his assets off shore to keep from paying taxes. He disavows ownership of Bain Capital yet keeps getting profits from them in his off shore trusts. His “former” company is what put us into recession destroying 23 million jobs though their reckless investments.
Claiming Mitt is a job creator is like greasy hair in the drain is a plumber. Mitt and his banking friends are the problem, not the solution.
“Kristen, we know exactly what he’s talking about, and we think climate change is BS.”
And that is the RWer code in a nutshell. Belief trumps fact no matter how you cut it, provided you have enough money to spread those spurious beliefs.
Remember how hard, and for how many decades, the tobacco industry and its hired scientists fought the facts that smoking cigarettes was bad for your health? We are seeing an almost exactly replay of that with climate science.
Today, even the most hardline RWers accept that smoking greatly increases the risk of lung cancer, heart disease, and other maladies. It’s not even disputed. But it wasnt’ always that way.
Dan – you would have made a great Real Estate Agent.
“Oh that crack in the foundation, Nah, its just superficial. We checked it out. But I will tell you that the toilet in the master bath runs a little bit now and then.”
Deflect all you want. Obama’s a goner.
Dan also believes that the main stream media isn’t liberally bias and that the last 4 years under Obama have been a success. I look forward to seeing you ride your magical unicorn to the polls on election day. You’re living in a different dimension!
I will never understand why any politician, Republican or Democrat, thinks that having an actor/actress publically speak out for them is a good thing. The democrats tend to do this more than republicans, but they both do it.
Actors and actresses are famous because they are good at pretending to be someone else. They are basically famous for lying, and pretending to be something that they aren’t. Why would that be the person that any politician wants to speak out for them?
Walker – Unless you have a billion in the bank, you are not part of the we in “We own this Country”.
Dan nails it.
RP, I’ve always found the way the RWer tend to speak in the plural to be extremely creepy. Frankly “we” can choose not to believe in gravity if “we” wish. It doesn’t matter. Gravity exists, as does climate change.
Dan;
There are scientists who also believe there is NO global warming. That it would be cyclical climate change. Amazing how you can ask two people who are watching the same thing to describe what they see and get totally different stories. I know I know because those who don’t believe what Dan and his lackies believe are stupid. The lefties are the ones who for the majority hurl the insults here.
I say again Dan WHO CARES
“There are scientists who also believe there is NO global warming. That it would be cyclical climate change. Amazing how you can ask two people who are watching the same thing to describe what they see and get totally different stories. I know I know because those who don’t believe what Dan and his lackies believe are stupid. The lefties are the ones who for the majority hurl the insults here.”
James, you are right about that. (Their numbers are dwindling, though, even among those who were once on the Koch Bros. payroll). So what? They’re just like the handful of scientists who used to claim nicotine was not addictive, and that smoking was not harmful to your health. Do you believe those two little nuggets, too? Give us a break.
“I look forward to seeing you ride your magical unicorn to the polls on election day. You’re living in a different dimension!”
At this time 4 years ago, I had some RWer friends who were saying this almost exactly. Then Hurricane Sarah struck and the RWers were totally stunned. Some of them continue to insist she didn’t take down the GOP ticket.
I encourage all my RWer friends to believe this wholeheartedly.
The number one issue in America isn’t climate change.
The number one issue in America isn’t “gay marriage”.
The number one issue in America isn’t abortion on demand.
The number one issue in America is the economy and creating JOBS.
Obama has FAILED miserably in this area.
I hope the DNC continues to ignore reality. I hope they try to paint Romney/Ryan as women hating, gay bashing radical conservatives.
The jig is up.
Dan;
Only nugget I believe is you are a shill for the Democrat party who says what is the party line. You are the Debbie Wasserman Shultz of the Roanoke Times. Give me a break.
Nahh, it’s just that the right-leaning climate change scientists have yet to come up with a hockey-stick graph and a clever ability to “hide the decline.”
I thought Eastwood had held an elected political office?
“The number one issue in America isn’t climate change.
The number one issue in America isn’t “gay marriage”.
The number one issue in America isn’t abortion on demand.
The number one issue in America is the economy and creating JOBS.
Obama has FAILED miserably in this area.”
There is the mantra that Republican will mindlessly repeat to themselves between now and November like a new convert to transcendental meditation.
It doesn’t necessarily mean it’s true, though.
When Obama took over, the economy was actually shrinking and unemployment was rising steeply. Corporate profits were in the toilet and half of many people’s retirement had gone down the drain. The economy was collapsing.
Since then, the Dow has doubled, and the economy is growing, albeit slowly. Corporate profits are at an all-time high. Unemployment has grown a bit under Obama and remains uncomfortably high. But it’s not rising any more, as badly as the GOP wishes it were. Some sectors are going gangbusters. In the energy sector employment is booming.
We all wish unemployment was lower. But the GOP tied much of Obama’s hands at improving that. It’s not his fault they stopped progress on that, it’s theirs. That’s just one of the reasons not to hand the White House over to the GOP. There are many more.
to paint them as such would not take much talent….they themselves hold the brush
Do people really think climate change is BS? Why?
all wish unemployment was lower. But the GOP tied much of Obama’s hands at improving that. It’s not his fault they stopped progress on that, it’s theirs. That’s just one of the reasons not to hand the White House over to the GOP. There are many more.
Actually……when Democrats ran the whole shooting match until the 2010 elections the rate got to 10%. (actually 12%). Thank God for the Tea Party House for the rate not rising even higher.
Dan;
The Republicans wish unemployment was higher? If there are idiots like that they are fools. You don’t think the Dow has doubled due to the printing of money and government manipulation that will be trouble soon? How has the Republicans tied the President’s hands on unemployment? Break out the facts would love to see that. I thought the Dems had control over the Senate and House for the first 2 years of the President’s term?
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According to Dan, speaking the truth, speaking of the reality that the American people are MOST concerned with the economy and JOBS…is “mindless”.
I LOVE it!
I hope The Wiz is as stubborn as you are, Dan. Pretty sure he is, as he takes no responsibility for his failures.
I hope he trots Pelosi out to tell everyone her story of meeting the ghost of Susan B. Anthony.
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Here is an entertaining piece about Eastwood.
“The Greatest Piece of Performance Art in American Political History”
“But Clint’s true artistic genius was provoking the ready, fire, aim, liberal Obama Administration supporters, and was reflective of how the “take him down at all costs” pack journalism thinks. It was pathetic when they focused on his age as their attack line. So go ahead you fools insult the elderly, use getting old as a weapon to discredit an extremely powerful message done with fantastic humor. That will turn out to be very, very stupid media attack line in the run up to the election. Not to mention, how off the mark it is because Clint Eastwood was out-thinking everyone and was intellectually miles ahead of all of you.”
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2012/08/the_greatest_piece_of_performance_art_in_american_political_history.html
James Swingle,
Do you deny that the scientists who say global warming isn’t happening are a minority?
Do you deny that tobacco industry scientists in the 50s, 60s and 70s weren’t claiming cigarettes weren’t harmful? Jeesh. Give us a break.
Why don’t you simply man up and admit that every profession has handful of whores who will sell themselves for cash tossed around by a Daddy Warbucks?
The no global warming science crowd is simply today’s version of the “smoking isn’t harmful” crowd of years past.
Before that, those scientists were owned by the Radium Corporation of America, and they swore before Congress that the company’s workers weren’t harmed by the radium-laced paint they were brushing onto watch dials. Even as those workers’ jaws fell off.
It’s disgraceful but you obviously don’t grasp it.
Gwenda, they have to think that. They have no choice. They can’t believe that the earth revolves around the sun either, because, you know, that’s what liberals think. They don’t engage in intellectually driven substance-based debate…it’s strictly sound-bite parrotting.
72. Dan, Obama has kept the US economy growing in spite of Europe crashing, China slowing, and the GOP “noing”. The US remains the strongest World economy as supported by the value of the dollar, the investment in Treasury notes (even with a negative interest rate”, the rising stock market, the steady growth of GDP. The GOP and the hedge funds destroyed the world economy leading to the Arab Spring, revolts in Africa, poverty in Europe for decades, and war after war. Romney represents both the GOP and hedge funds. How can any one believe he can improve things.
For two years, Eastwood was the mayor of Carmel, CA.
http://www.clinteastwood.net/mayor/
“I thought the Dems had control over the Senate and House for the first 2 years of the President’s term?”
James Swingle, again, your belief that the Dems had control of all three branches in 2008-10 doesn’t necessarily make it true. Keep in mind that belief does not necessarily equate to reality.
The reality is, there were 56 Dems in the Senate coming out of the 2008 election. There were two independents who caucused with the Dems. At best, that gives them 58 votes.
In the Senate, control = 60, no matter the party. That’s simply a fact.
I have not researched the numbers of whose is for and who is against. But I would say you are correct the majority do confirm global warming. There are some leaders of the movement who did believe but now do not. Correct? There are also some who are believers who receive big grant money. East Anglia’s data was doctored. It is not conclusive is my belief. Maybe today’s global warming crowd are just followers or lemmings if you will. But I am a caveman ugh.
Remember folks, the federal gov’t is paying big bucks for Kristen’s kid to study alchemy—er, I mean MMGW. With a minor in sorcery.
So what legislation was held up by Republicans the first two years of the President’s term?
Dan, haven’t you heard? It is cost prohibitive to require that cars have seatbelts. Mandate them, and only the rich will ever be able to afford a car.
Drink Rad-I-Thor, for that radium glow of health!
A show about a family of rednecks beat the RNC in ratings.
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/entertainment/2012/08/honey-boo-boos-ratings-beat-out-the-rncs/
Walker@10:22
You’ve obviously been hanging out with the wrong real estate agent. Any agent worth his salt suggests that buyers hire a professional ( home inspector, engineer etc.) to evaluate defects and provide an analysis of a homes strong and weak issues. Trying to explain away potential defects when you are not qualified to do so is a disservice to your clients and an invitation to a lawsuit. And reputable companies and reputable agents
avoid both like the plague.
The number of worldwide temperature recording stations used to determine changes from year to year have dwindled by half. Plus, most scientists agree that using satellites to record Earth temps are not accurate as the ones on the surface.
The data points have been reduced, plus, you are going on 150 yrs or less of data for a planet that is millions of years old.
My thoughts about RMoney’s speech: lies, lies and more lies (almost as bad as Ryan’s)
It still amazes me how the Republicans think the end justifies the means and that lying is ok now.
All this talk about Obama not accomplishing anything is complete hogwash.
Oh, and Mr Swingle, I think you should buy as much beach front property as you can afford. I suggest Hatteras.
Wrong Richard.
82 years-old, and Dirty Harry is still pissing all the right people off.
My hero.
- John Nolte
I’m feeling upbeat after watching the Republican convention. R-MONEY and Ryan, Mia Love, Susanna Martinez, Nikki Haley, Marco Rubio, etc., all those impressive people on the Republican side.
The Republican ticket for 2012 is probably the best ever. Two accomplished, smart people with a lot of other accomplished, smart people behind them. BHO got one thing right last night, there IS a clear choice this year. On the Republican side there is intelligence, character, accomplishment, and ideas, on the Democratic side there is not.
Dan,
If the Dems didn’t control all 3 branches,why did Obama succeed in taking over 1/6 of the US economy with Obamacare?
Romney is a pragmatist, a realist. He is a grown up. That is what we need. Obama and his cohort of czars are petulant children. Clinging to their narcissism and Marxist ideas. Now, if it was Groucho, Chico, Harpo or even Zeppo instead of Karl, that philosophy might be better received.
Romney talked about his dad and everything else under the sun… but nothing about how he can fix things. Just another “me first” empty suit.
James Swingle never mentioned all three branches, only the Legislative branch and Executive branch.
The Dow being doubled really doesnt make Obama a savior. The economy is really in the same shape as it was 4 years ago. Obamacare will destroy the current healthcare system as most know it now. He was in office when one thing americans wanted done was accomplished, the killing of Bin Laden. The man needs to be replaced period! Mitt Romney is the person that will make it happen. The Dems can believe what they want bhut Obama needs to go.
Did anyone else notice that the phrase ‘Tea Party’ was mostly missing during convention speeches? I’m guessing the platform mostly placates the TP agenda, so they don’t have to be pandered to anymore. I also noticed the TP’s poster girl, Sarah Palin, was conspicuously missing from the convention floor and dais. Soooo, I guess they’re done with her now?
I’ll give Mitt a solid “B” which is all he needed after the absolute brilliant speeches by Ryan, Rubio, Martinez, Rice, Arthur Davis, Christie, Haley, and the brutal lampooning by Clint.
It’s all over folks! Romney/Ryan are heading for a landslide victory in 2 months and the lib universe is utter panic mode. Enjoy the show!
James Swingle,
“I thought the Dems had control over the Senate and House for the first 2 years of the President’s term?”
Your statment IS factually correct. The Dems had the majority in the Senate, they had the majority in the House, and they controlled the Presidency. So, to answer your question: YES, the Democrats did have CONTROL during that time period. Dan incorrectly implies that one must have 60 for control, but that is for a filibuster-proof supermajority. For the most part, as history shows, neither party is required to have 60 in the Senate to pass a bill. Most of the time, the party in CONTROL is usually able to get a few of their opponents to step across the aisle.
#80 India’s economy has also been slowing tremendously.
It’s as if there is only one thing to believe in and if it’s not the opinion of either party then it truly must not be a thing at all. These last four years have been horrible for my industry. Sales have plummeted and I hear daily that until we get someone else in its gonna continue to go down hill. Like it or not the folks that make the rules seldom know what the hell they’re doing. I call on real business owners with real life experience. They pay real workers for doing real work and absolutely believe in charity…unless its decided for them. Weve got to put people to work and if we can get the Gov to get off people’s asses about doing it we can make a turn around. If we continue down the path of easy to get entitlements, and the belief that we all deserve a consolation prize just for showing up we will continue this downward spiral. My suggestion to those of you who wait on Dan here to tell you how to vote. Go out and read the healthcare bill. Look at The TSA and what they are doing to our transportation industry. Prices keep going up and so does unemployment. Eventually this watering hole is gonna dry up and we’ll all be waiting on the Gov’s kool aid. Wake up
and regardless of who you select, think for yourself, study the real facts an make a somewhat educated decision.
He won it when he said:
President Obama promised to begin to slow the rise of the oceans and heal the planet. MY promise…is to help you and your family.
I will begin my presidency with a jobs tour. President Obama began with an apology tour. America, he said, had dictated to other nations. No Mr. President, America has freed other nations from dictators.
Kristen
Maybe it does maybe it doesn’t but I frankly could care less. What I do care about is the economy, job creation, lower taxes, less regulation and oh yea drill baby drill anywhere and everywhere.
Dan
Check this out the truth hurts, I know!
http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000000
The number of worldwide temperature recording stations used to determine changes from year to year have dwindled by half. Plus, most scientists agree that using satellites to record Earth temps are not accurate as the ones on the surface.
The data points have been reduced, plus, you are going on 150 yrs or less of data for a planet that is millions of years old.
From Wikipedia:
“[Fred] Seitz and [Fred] Singer served in high levels of science administration, and had contact with admirals, generals, and even presidents. They also had considerable media experience, so they could obtain press coverage for their views. The authors state that, “They used their scientific credentials to present themselves as authorities, and they used their authority to discredit any science they didn’t like”.
Seitz and Singer were seen to be contrarians in the tobacco debate. Seitz directed a program for the R.J. Reynolds Tobacco Company that funded research defending tobacco. Singer co-wrote a report denying the risks of second-hand smoke, funded by the Tobacco Institute, which attacked the science behind the finding that there were health risks from passive smoking and said that it was “part of a political agenda to expand government control over peoples lives.”
Seitz and Singer helped to form institutions such as the Heritage Foundation, Competitive Enterprise Institute and Marshall Institute in the United States. Funded by corporations and conservative foundations, these organizations have opposed many forms of state intervention or regulation of U.S. citizens. The book lists similar tactics in each case: “discredit the science, disseminate false information, spread confusion, and promote doubt.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merchants_of_Doubt
Keep talking about global warming, gay marriage, and other social non issues. Obama was able to get the job just not able to do the job. Don’t let the door hit you where the good lord split you Barack.
Whistling Dixie because I don’t care Dan. Just like President Obama smoke and mirrors.
Alfred, I think Sarah Palin’s 15 minutes of fame are just about up.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/29/sarah-palin-fox-news-canceled_n_1841255.html
#104 Let’s see, corporations are earning more money and sitting on more reserves than ever before and yet they’re not creating jobs. Exactly what will Rmoney do about this?
Social issues may help Obama in some areas of the country, namely those blue states where he already polls strongly & would win anyhow. The key swing states this year are all JOBS states. The economy will matter much more this year than any election since 1992 (i.e., the last time an incumbent lost).
Romneys acceptance speech. It’s not a lie, it’s a factual shortcut.
#103 A “jobs tour”? What the hell is that? Is that where he hands out government jobs? I thought you guys were against that. An apology tour? What BS “At the end of the first 100 days 65% of Americans approved of how Obama was doing and 29% disapproved.”
Even the Washington Examiner says Palin is yesterday’s news. She’s on her way out and it couldn’t happen to a micer gal.
http://www.examiner.com/article/sarah-palin-s-15-minutes-up
#84 Thanks, suzie, for stepping in and proving Kristen right on this: “They don’t engage in intellectually driven substance-based debate…it’s strictly sound-bite parrotting.”
John Brown@1:04
Keep ignoring global warming, gay marriage and social issues such as women’s health matters and intrusive govt. mandated procedures such as
vaginal ultrasounds and watch what happens in November when women (the predominant sex in terms of numbers) along with young people, hispanics, and African americans sweep Obama back into office and retake control of the House.
Michael H, the truth does hurt, look what happens when you start with the St. Reagan days:
http://data.bls.gov/pdq/SurveyOutputServlet
“MY promise…is to help you and your family“. How very socialist of you Comrade Romney!
Mike Howdyshell@12:49
Andyour graph proves what? That in Feb. of 2009 when Obama effectively became President the unemployment rate was 8.3%. Jobs wre disappearing at the rate of 750000 a month as a result of 8 years of Geroge Bush, deregulation of financial marl
kets, and a huge debt accumulated due to unwise tax cuts and unfunded wars. That as a result of those policies, before new regs and policies could be put into effect that unemployment rate skiedto 9.9 %. That since the stimulus, the auto bailout, and general belt tightening, that rate has noe droppoed back to 8.3%. That the refusal of Republicans in the Senate and the new Republican controlled house starting in 2010, Congress has refused to approve any more of the Obama administartions job creating measures and have slashed budgets causing a reduction of over 500000 public employees including teachers, firemen, policemen and public health workers. That those 500000 jobs lost would likely have created at least 500000 more jobs due to increased denands and spending power.l That those 1 million jobs altogether wuld have the unemployment rate down to closer to 7 %. If those are your points, then I agree with you. The truth matters, If those are not your points, then you don’t know how to interpret figures.
Walker, perhaps you can enlighten me on Mitt’s owning the Country. Perhaps I am wrong, maybe it was ethnic?
Michael, that graph shows that Obama took over a hot mess that W’s Administration caused and that Obama’s Administration is getting the unemployment rate down.
Just imagine how much lower the unemployment rate would be if Congress had not been stonewalling Obama’s initiatives to boost employment.
“Just imagine how much lower the unemployment rate would be if Congress had not been stonewalling Obama’s initiatives to boost employment.”
Right. And Congress stonewalled those efforts PRECISELY to ensure unemployment didn’t decline, knowing they could use that against Obama.
Because, as Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell so adroitly announced in 2010: ““Well that is true, [making Obama a one-term President is] my single most important political goal along with every active Republican in the country.”
Thus, unemployment must be kept high, because nothing will persuade an electorate to vote against an incumbent president like that will.
Too bad Reagan cant be here to pick things
up a little bit..at least he wouldnt talk to a chair.
Smoke em if ya got em.
http://www.yourememberthat.com/files/4a71de6bf6d14ed6.jpg
We are supposed to ask if we’re better off than we were 3 or 4 years ago, and I am. Bush’s last year in office, my 401k plan was losing thousands every month. That stopped when Obama took office. I’ve made all the money I lost back, plus more. The value keeps going up, not down.
“Like it or not the folks that make the rules seldom know what the hell they’re doing. I call on real business owners with real life experience.”
Interesting, williamstevens? You know what? Everyone has “real life experience”. Teachers in inner cities. Doctors volunteering in free clinics. Parents of dying children trying not to go bankrupt keeping their kid alive. The homeless guy at the corner. “real life” exeriences, all. So what?
There’s nothing that makes the “real life experiences” of your clients – or mine – any more valid than anyone elses. If they’ve decided they’re going to sandbag themselves for another 4 years, let them. If “small business owners” were so much smarter than the rest of us, they’d have a better success rate. Please stop quoting them like some oracle of Delphi.
The press didn’t put Obama forth as a Messiah. He benefitted from following the worst president in the history of the country. In all fairness, anyone would have appeared Messiah-like. But I don’t know any actual Obama supporters who believe that.
He is what he was. The only choice. That’s not our fault.
“You, we — we own this country. We — we own it. It is not you owning it, and not politicians owning it. Politicians are employees of ours. And — so — they are just going to come around and beg for votes every few years. It is the same old deal. But I just think it is important that you realize , that you’re the best in the world. Whether you are a Democrat or Republican or whether you’re libertarian or whatever, you are the best. And we should not ever forget that. And when somebody does not do the job, we got to let them go.”
Clint Eastwood…telling it like it is.
Talk around the office today isn’t about Romney’s speech. It’s about Clint Eastwood’s wierd what ever that was last night.
I’ve never heard of the Twitter Political Index (Twindex) until today but measures how tweeters feel about a candidate on a scale of 1 to 100. According to the linked article below, Romney’s index fell from 46 to 38 following his speech.
IMHO, that’s what he gets for trying to be likeable by association.
http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSBRE87U10P20120831?irpc=932
I guess this guy alone is part of the reason we canceled our subscription to the RAG…I mean RT. I log on occasionally if I’m in a good mood and need to bring myself down! I say if we (even minded business people) just quit responding and giving fodder they to will look elsewhere to get a jolly.
Regarding the “stonewalling” that the libs always blame on the Repubs (who control 1/3 of Congress), can anyone tell me how many Democrats in the House and Senate have voted for Obama’s last several budget proposals? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller…?
#110 gdad, When BHO is an ex-president, and business feels confident that government is not out to destroy them, there will be business expansion and employment for those who want to work. R-MONEY has experience and he understands business. Just sit back and enjoy the 16 years of R-MONEY/Ryan!
I see that the stock market is headed back up now that the Repub Convention is over.
What initiatives Bill? Raise dividend and capital gains taxes ? Either of which will hurt the stock market
@122 – Dan sounds like you need a fresh tinfoil hat! I’m hoping years from now you come out and say that the only way you could keep your job at the Roanoke Times is to play this crazy logic defying left wing character and that you’re really not this absurd.
Debbie makes a GREAT point.
Am I better off than I was in 2008? You’re damn right I am. As of today, my 401k fund is 2.5 times what it was four years ago.
“#110 gdad, When BHO is an ex-president, and business feels confident that government is not out to destroy them, there will be business expansion and employment for those who want to work. R-MONEY has experience and he understands business. Just sit back and enjoy the 16 years of R-MONEY/Ryan!”
VRWC, I’ll fix that for you:
“#When BHO is an ex-president, businesses will quit holding our economy hostage. They will feel a renewed sense of confidence now that we have a president who has been on every side of every big issue, depending solely on his own political self-interest. Because above all else, business understands self interest, and R-MONEY has demonstrated that he thinks just like them better than any political in this nation’s history. Just sit back and enjoy the 16 years of R-MONEY/Ryan!”
There!
“Dan sounds like you need a fresh tinfoil hat! I’m hoping years from now you come out and say that the only way you could keep your job at the Roanoke Times is to play this crazy logic defying left wing character and that you’re really not this absurd.”
Yawn. Another madhatter who believes some evil liberal overload here at the paper tells me which opinions to voice. That NEVER happens, fyi.
@dave – Sure that will happen, because everyone on the left is so energized to get to the polls and vote for an absolute failure. It’s no longer “cool” to be an Obama supporter. I haven’t seen one yard sign and only 2 bumper stickers for Obama. This time last election there was a sea of them. Your intelligence seriously comes into question if you’re an Obama supporter after the last four years. Good luck on the voter turnout!
“Yawn. Another madhatter who believes some evil liberal overload here at the paper tells me which opinions to voice. That NEVER happens, fyi.”
I was trying to give you the benefit of the doubt. It must be something on the Golden Corral buffet that is poisoning your brain. Maybe you should scale back your visits to 3 times a week and see what happens.
I’ve never eaten at GC. That’s Suze’s favorite feed.
John Brown@4:55
Sure John. I didn’t cast any aspersions on your intelligence in my earlier post. I’m glad to see that I didn’t have to since you just confirmed what everybody could see all along. Have a happy Labor Day
and drink lots of that Tea Party Tea and Republican Kool Aid.
John Brown
Interesting that you should mention yard signs and bumper stickers. Local
democratic groups have just handed out 1000 yard signs to go up in people’s yards starting next week with the convention. So look for them comng soon to a yard near you. And I was just out in SW County and counted 13 Obama bumoer stickers along 419 ans Brambleton Ave. in just over five minutes. So I guess blindness is one of your issues along with IQ?
Michael, here are a couple. There is a tool on your computer called Google that you can use to find these things on your own…
http://m.whitehouse.gov/blog/2010/09/27/president-obama-signs-small-business-jobs-act-learn-whats-it
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2012/01/31/one-year-anniversary-startup-america-initiative-president-obama-sends-st
OK, I will admit I fell asleep during the Eastwood thing and missed Romney’s speech. (I plan to watch it after dinner). I saw some clips on the news this morning and it looked pretty good.
The bottom line is that Romney is “real” and cares. He could be just fine taking his money and protecting himself and his family wealth but “inside” he does not want to see our country move deeper into the abyss. Consider that vs Obama who wants the “win” but not the “job”, wants the “trappings” but not the responsibility; it has been proven in the past 4 years. He has had his chance, and most non political intelligent people understand that.
The “best” Obama can hope for is that in the annals of history, Carter continues to rank above him as the “worst president ever elected”. (is it humiliating when you can’t even be first at being worst?)
I love Eastwood but his hairdresser did not do him justice, I did not realize he was 82. Many at that age don’t understand that they can’t do what they did decades ago (any with parents or grandparents will understand). Hell I am in my 50’s and get it… maybe I’ll forget… lol
A perfect ending to Eastwood’s “speech?” would have been “I am over 80 years old, and I may have babbled a bit so I will close now because “A man has got to know his limitations (Magnum Force 1973)”; unfortunately Obama does not know ”HIS” limitations as a leader and needs to be replaced; so on November 6th “make my day” and vote Mitt Romney…
I think Lindsey Graham sums up the republican party problems very SUCCINCTLY:
“The demographics race we’re losing badly,” said Sen. Lindsey O. Graham (S.C.). “We’re not generating enough angry white guys to stay in business for the long term.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2012/08/29/b9023a52-f1ec-11e1-892d-bc92fee603a7_story.html
He should come visit Dan’s blog now and again…
“The president said he would slow the rising oceans … that he would heal the earth … I will help you and your family!”
The first two things in this phrase are totally made-up RWer strawman BS. Which makes me think the third is, also.
Or maybe he was mentally addressing the Koch Bros. when he said it.
Comment by Dan Casey — August 31, 2012 @ 9:35 am
I thought the Dems had control over the Senate and House for the first 2 years of the President’s term?”
James Swingle, again, your belief that the Dems had control of all three branches in 2008-10 doesn’t necessarily make it true. Keep in mind that belief does not necessarily equate to reality.
The reality is, there were 56 Dems in the Senate coming out of the 2008 election. There were two independents who caucused with the Dems. At best, that gives them 58 votes.
In the Senate, control = 60, no matter the party. That’s simply a fact.
Comment by Dan Casey — August 31, 2012 @ 11:12 am
Dan…100 Senators…56 Dems..2 independents vote Dem. equals 58…
Sounds like a majority to me. Did you forget Democrat Nancy Pelosi’s Congress..(they got their butts kicked in 2010..and nationally)
Only game you got is Koch Brothers…and no one buying the “bovine scatology”. Who are the Koch Brothers…are they friend of George Soro’s or SEIU.
Am I better off than I was in 2008? You’re damn right I am. As of today, my 401k fund is 2.5 times what it was four years ago.
Comment by Dan Casey — August 31
Dan your 401k plan is up…QE1, QE2, ZERO INTEREST on borrowing for BANKS..and now talking about QE3…for my lib friends..Government buying BS..
Our credit ratings is NOW AA…NEVER IN HISTORY but under Democrat President Barrack Hussein Obama.
You might want to LOOK AT THE BOND MARKET! This the barometer!
…Ten Year Bonds yielding 1.6%..money market..less then 1%.!
BOND MARKETS is the barometer on the health of the Government!
Dan sounds LIKE you hate senior citizens.
How bout GAS prices!
All you LIBS were hanging out at the local gas stations. George Bush and Dick Cheney, Haliburton.
I miss Democrat Chuck Shummer FIGHTING for the small people… guess he does not pay for his games.
Bottom line you ain’t got no game and the gig is up.
Just read Democrat President Barrack Hussein Obama is going to New Orleans…wow!
Clint Eastwood: 23 Million Unemployed a ‘National Disgrace’
Democrat President Barrack Husein Obama legacy.
Defend this my lib friends…4 years later AND he is President of the United States of America.
Convention bump? What convention bump?
Translation for mike O’s 272-word screed:
“I missed Romney’s speech but it doesn’t matter because I already knew he’s real and he cares.”
EVERYBODY NEEDS AN EDITOR.
@dave I meant Obama bumper stickers that said 2012. I see fragments of Obama 08′ stickers all the time. Most have had at least one removal attempt. Sorry I hurt your feelings about the Obama supporters having low IQ. It was a blanket statement not meant specifically for you but now that you mention it……
Clint Eastwood: 23 Million Unemployed a ‘National Disgrace’
Democrat President Barrack Husein Obama legacy.
Defend this my lib friends…4 years later AND he is President of the United States of America.
Comment by steve nelson — August 31, 2012 @ 6:53 pm
Defend the 23 million people unemployed…
The US GOVERNMENT AA rating…HAS NEVER BEEN AA before.
nobody cares about illegals, gay marriage..(just a new business for divorce lawyers)
climate change..a joke..do you think for US CITIZENS could stop the weather patterns…another bovine scatology….driving more CHEVY VOLTS would have stopped the EL DERECHO..
Dan do you HATE senior citizens? They are getting screwed while we PAY illegal aliens a stipend to produce babies.
Just me and you. You have the print media I don’t!
#144, who is Lindsey Graham? The Republican party is Marco Rubio, Paul Ryan, Susanna Martinez, Mia Love, Chris Christie, Mitt Romney, Ted Cruz, etc. Guys like Graham, are so out of the loop, and their ideas are so old, that they would be right at home in the Democratic party.
Convention bump? What convention bump?
If I remember correctly, Poodle made the same misreading of Ryan’s appointment.
The mental illness being displayed on here really isn’t humorous anymore.
You know you’re down the rabbit hole when Lindsey Graham isn’t conservative enough.
Yo, Butch, you still taping your junk?
Kristen , thank you for your comment. Teachers in inner city? Union employees. Parents of dying children? I would hate to be in that situation but unfortunately it happens. Some choose to ignore that those parents are not just Repub’s or dem’s, just whatever makes your story sad. Homeless, how many times have you been harassed by the guy on 220 who does not want a job? I offered him one, he was just ” looking to get a little something together to get to Florida. I understand your argument, do not believe it. I suggest you spend some time in the real world, live the ” real life of an employer” and buzz us back. Tell your union friend I said HI.
#130 Yes, VRWC, I’ve heard that lame excuse before. Private business and Repubs have been holding back the recovery.
“Who is Lindsey Graham?”. Hilarious.
Mikeo, I like how you put “real” in quotes. I’d say Rmoney is “real”.
I saw two Romney bumper stickers today. They were on cars that passed by me while I was broken down on the side of the road, with my hazard lights on, standing outside of my car.
@13 Suns – hopefully you had your government provided cell phone and were able to call for some assistance. Does Medicaid cover triple A yet? Don’t worry it’s on Obama’s list.
saw two Romney bumper stickers today. They were on cars that passed by me while I was broken down on the side of the road, with my hazard lights on, standing outside of my car.
Sure, that’s believable, grandma. An 85-year-old is standing there while motorists pass, they don’t stop, but she has the visual acuity to see their bumperstickers.
A forgetful old grandma needs AAA. Why are your kids so AWOL in taking care of you?
#110 gdad, When BHO is an ex-president, and business feels confident that government is not out to destroy them, there will be business expansion and employment for those who want to work
Bingo, VRWC. There are SO many businesses who are holding off on hiring until the see what happens with 0bamacare and the election. They want to know if we’ll have a president who helps them or wants to screw them.
It’s reallly hard to imagine an adminstration so hostile to business even being talked about as having a chance to get re-elected. In a sane rational world where the MSM does it’s job, 0bama would be down by 25.
The lack of civility in politics is nothing new.
“Opening the Civility Metanoia Speakers Series Wednesday at the Jorgensen Center for the Performing Arts, Cohen said that while some may consider today’s political attack ads as the low point in modern civility, the Foundation Fathers of the nation “were much more obnoxious than we are – yet another way in which they were superior to us.”
“Randy Cohen speaks about civil society. (Peter Morenus/UConn Photo)
Cohen, a former writer for “Late Night with David Letterman,” cited the 1800 presidential election between Thomas Jefferson and John Adams, who each hired writers to develop the 18th-century version of attack ads.”
“Jefferson’s writers said of Adams: “He is a hideous hermaphroditical character, which has neither the force and firmness of a man, nor the gentleness and sensibility of a woman.” Adams’s side claimed that if Jefferson were elected: “Are you prepared to see your dwellings in flames, female chastity violated, children writhing on pikes? Great god of compassion and justice! Shield my country from destruction.”
http://today.uconn.edu/blog/2012/08/how-to-build-a-just-society-with-courtesy-and-civility-be-good/
This is a hilarious, brilliant take on the RNC “we can change that” theme this night at the convention:
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-august-30-2012/rnc-2012—the-road-to-jeb-bush-2016—we-can-change-that?xrs=synd_facebook
0BAMA -THE POVERTY KING, THE MARXIST TYRANT, THE FOOD STAMP PRES, THE GRAND GOLDEN LIAR…go ahead and vote for it again ignorant libbie coms, your life will only get worse. I sure am glad I have hoarded LOTS of cash, gold, platinum and diamonds….have fun
pammalala@11:00am
Hmmmm! Wonder what business that is that pays in cash, gold, platinum
and diamonds?
“Teachers in inner city? Union employees.”
Oh right…so their “real life experience” teaching doesn’t count, right, william stevens?
Maybe someone needs to tell your whiny “small business owners” to stop sniveling and get to work. It’s tiresome seeing whatever lunacy the GOP wants to foist off on us justified as being what “small business owners want”. Who cares? They get one vote just like the rest of us. That, williamstevens, is the “real world”. Hope that helps.
Another conservative celebrity “intellectual” strikes.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/31/victoria-jackson-todd-akin-rape-abortion_n_1847852.html
” The DNA of a baby is individual. It’s not the mother’s DNA. It’s not the father’s DNA. And that’s why I believe abortion is murder, because it’s not the woman’s body. It has it’s own DNA. If there’s a boy baby inside of me, he has a penis. That’s not my body.”
I think prerequisite of being a “conservative” is not making it past 5th grade science.
I – Can’t – Believe – My – Eyes,
but this is the headline on FoxNews’ blog.
“Koch brother breaks from GOP, supports gay marriage”
August 31, 2012
“Billionaire businessman David Koch has helped direct millions to Republican candidates but he disagrees with the party on gay marriage.”
“I believe in gay marriage,” the 72-year-old Koch told Politico. He was in Tampa as a New York delegate and to attend an event held by Americans for Prosperity — the political advocacy group he helps fund and lead.
He also told the newspaper the U.S. military should withdraw from the Middle East and that the federal government should consider tax increases and defense-spending cuts to improve fiscal woes.
http://politics.blogs.foxnews.com/2012/08/31/koch-brother-breaks-gop-supports-gay-marriage#ixzz25EyPX3Gn
So he is essentially supporting President Obama’s positions on gay marriage, tax increases and defense spending cuts…..who knew? Hahahahahahahah
“John Brown says:
@13 Suns – hopefully you had your government provided cell phone and were able to call for some assistance. Does Medicaid cover triple A yet? Don’t worry it’s on Obama’s list.
Posted on September 1st, 2012″
Why would I? I have my own (albeit older) cellphone that I pay for. I called my grandson, who came and helped me get the car started. Thanks for your concern.
Also, here’s something you might find interesting:
http://www.hoax-slayer.com/obama-phone.shtml
“Suzie says:
Sure, that’s believable, grandma. An 85-year-old is standing there while motorists pass, they don’t stop, but she has the visual acuity to see their bumperstickers.
A forgetful old grandma needs AAA. Why are your kids so AWOL in taking care of you?
Posted on September 1st, 2012″
I’m 84, not 85. I’ve explained that to you before. Try to keep up.
There’s a remarkable product called eyeglasses that correct and enhance a person’s vision. I wear mine when I drive. As I was on a road with a posted speed limit of 25 mph, the passing cars were not traveling so fast that I couldn’t read the two Romney stickers that I saw. Also, because the triple R logo is pretty recognizable as Romney’s, it would have been very easy to discern that they were Romney stickers, even if I hadn’t had my glasses on.
Now, what was that you said about rightwing conservatives always stopping to help a motorist in trouble?
Dan,
“screed?”
I didn’t think it particularly long as it covered multiple subjects.
Hey sorry, I like a little detail rather than idiotic one line insults about one person or the other.
I did watch Romney’s speech last night.
In one line: I thought he looked a bit stiff but came off very well.
Kristen…you win! I Will not argue or debate with a moron!
dave:
“Hmmmm! Wonder what business that is that pays in cash, gold, platinum
and diamonds?”
Per my class website, I accept “cash, good check, gold, silver, and guns” for payment. What’s the problem?
#170 Strange thing, 13 suns, both my parents, who are in their 80s, would also be able to read bumper stickers going by at 25 mph, particularly when we’re only talking about a political sticker with a name on it. In fact, I’m almost legally blind without glasses (20/20 with them) and I’d bet I could still tell the difference in Romney and Obama bumper stickers as a car goes by.
The big question is — why does suzie hate older people so much? She keeps pushing this stereotype of older folks as blind, deaf, helpless individuals with dementia. Maybe this is the way her parents are and so naturally all older people are like that. Or maybe her parents aren’t around any longer and she’s bitter about that. I’m not sure, but it’s really sad to see her continually make fun of an octogenarian. Especially since, I assume, one of her own goals is to be an octogenarian one day.
#172 “Kristen…you win! I Will not argue or debate with a moron!”
Oh lord, have you been “debating” with suzie?
Re: Comment by gdad — August 31, 2012 @ 8:26 am
Look at all these Repubs, including Romney, using TELEPROMPTERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!Disgusting. Can’t they be genuine?
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As we don’t have a satire font and do have a number of new posters, we might need a way (link?) to let them in on the joke — in this case a play on the claims of … about ….
Otherwise, the some might miss the joke on the joke. They might actually think that was your opinion, rather than turning the stupity of … back on ….
So, who are the posters who are now claiming that the POTUS did not stop the oceans and by extension acknowledges that they are rising?
IOW, who are contradicting the claims of old Rants & Raves ((w/ lies) et al that there is no global warming and ocean rising.
Is it now the GOP / TP position that there is global warming and that the oceans are rising?
“So, who are the posters who are now claiming that the POTUS did not stop the oceans and by extension acknowledges that they are rising?
IOW, who are contradicting the claims of old Rants & Raves ((w/ lies) et al that there is no global warming and ocean rising.
Is it now the GOP / TP position that there is global warming and that the oceans are rising?”
Dave Hicks has an interesting point.
Either the oceans are rising and they’re contradicting themselves on global warming, or the oceans ARE NOT rising, after (they claim) Obama said he would stop that.
I don’t know what ya’ll know about Dave and his feelings about the president, but he doesn’t come across to me as some gungho Obama acolyte at all.
On the other hand, he despises sophistry way more than he dislikes the president.
#173 John W,
“Per my class website, I accept “cash, good check, gold, silver, and guns” for payment. What’s the problem?’
Comment by John Wilburn — September 2, 2012 @ 7:34 pm
Depends; are you conducting business standing up and fully clothed or on your back and naked. Nothing wrong with the former as long as it passes muster with the IRS.
#176 – Dave Hicks: I might have your answer (in regards to links):
You could try visual aids: http://static.fjcdn.com/large/pictures/78/35/78355e_186282.jpg
P.S.A.s: http://images.sodahead.com/profiles/0/0/1/9/5/2/7/3/2/sarcasm-23883843212.jpeg
Or if auditory aids help (my personal fave): http://www.instantrimshot.com
Re: Comment by Dan Casey — September 4, 2012 @ 7:49 pm
I don’t know what ya’ll know about Dave and his feelings about the president, but he doesn’t come across to me as some gungho Obama acolyte at all.
On the other hand, he despises sophistry way more than he dislikes the president.
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Dan,
I have said a number of times (and I think on this blog as well as other blogs & forums) that this will be yet another POTUS vote for the less objectionable of the two options offered, for me.
I don’t dislike the POTUS. I don’t dislike the GOP nominee. However, I don’t trust either one very much.
It will likely come down to who had the lesser objectionable attack ads and/or outright lies about the opposition. As I am still catching up on this blog, having been mostly offline over the long weekend, I would offer the following (in light of the thread on Jefferson) “…wherever the people are well informed they can be trusted with their own government.” — to Richard Price The Papers of Thomas Jefferson. Princeton: Princeton University Press. IMHO, Jefferson’s “the people” don’t include the Citizens United’s best goverment money can buy. As to his “well informed”, IMHO, that is in great part the responsible of the Free Press envisioned by 1A. On yours and other journalist’s shoulders rest a great responsibility for the future of this great country.
As to politicos and business leaders alike, I think nearly all are too focused on the short-term return for/to themselves — the politicos on the next election and business leaders on their next bonus (both w/o regard to the long term health of the country or the company).
I am a moderate (actually just a tad to the left of middle of center) on the left-to-right continuum of economic theory and I am a strong anti-authoritarian on the authoritarian-to-anti-authoritarian continuum of political theory — see: http://www.politicalcompass.org/ As it seems that most folk want to use the power of goverment to enforce their values on others, they are often confused by my (small “l” libertarianism.
FWIIW, I don’t want the goverment in the boardroom or in the bedroom. Also, check out http://tinyurl.com/3v37tlw
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The aggregate effect of their [DC wonks] brains, security, and isolation is that they are out of touch with the country as it really is. They do not know the bleak strip-development of Route 1 South toward Fredericksburg, red dirt and franchised cholesterol chutes and roaring traffic. Here the diabetic veteran lives in a decayed residential motel and makes his way on crutches to the down-scale diner where he drinks beer and waits to die because he hasn’t got anything else to wait for. (The example is not hypothetical.) Here the aging waitress gets to the diner somehow, aching with arthritis. “Too tired to work, too poor to stop.” I knew this woman. She is much of America.
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The tendency of the Beltway 99th [percentile] to live in an imaginary world, of conservatives to think that everybody can be a Horatio Alger, of liberals to believe that inequality arises from discrimination, guarantees wretched policy. Those who can do almost anything need to recognize the existence of those who can do almost nothing. Few of the latter are parasites. The waitress has worked all her life, as has the truck driver. They ended up with nothing.
Which is easy to do. A girl marries her high-school sweetheart in Busted Hump, Tennessee and he goes to work for the local pickle-bottling plant, which switches to hiring people as independent contractors to avoid paying benefits. Neither of the pair is real bright, just ordinary Americans trying to make a living. They live paycheck to paycheck because they don’t know how not to. Neither is lazy. They just don’t know how to start the next Microsoft. He dies of a heart attack at 45, she can’t make the mortgage, and…she is well and truly screwed.
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[good read, IMHO; YMMV]
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I, also, tend to be a 10A-er — not switching sides on the issue of Federalism as both extremes do. For example, recent history shows extreme conservatives champion strict limits on the national government and support the preeminence of state laws – except when addressing civil liberties, national security, etc. They typically argue against national laws such as environmental laws, the extension of the “Commerce Clause” via the use of the “Necessary and Proper Clause” etc. However, they support the Patriot Act, while supporting the Arizona Immigration act, etc. OTOH, extreme liberals champion extension of national government authority and support the preeminence of national laws, extension of the “Commerce Clause” via the use of the “Necessary and Proper Clause” etc. – except when addressing civil liberties, national security, etc. They typically argue for national laws such as environmental laws; yet reject portions of the Patriot Act and reject the Arizona Immigration act, etc.
IOW, both sides play the 10A argument according to the issue being addressed — do not maintain a consistent definition/understanding of Federalism.
As always, YMMV — but the above is a good snapshot of me.