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  1. Suzie | August 28, 2012 at 10:06 am

    And…for the 15th straight day, liberal Gallup has failed to show 0bama in the lead, with Romney leading 12 of those days.

    But they insist Ryan didn’t help Romney at all.

    Keep in mind, Gallup’s frontrunner before the convention has won 12 of the last 15 times. Two of the three times they were wrong, they had Dukakis and Kerry leading. (I’m not kidding).

  2. Ron May | August 28, 2012 at 11:30 am

    Wait a minute, isn’t Gov. Jindel one of those Republican who wants the federal government to cut back on FEMA funding? Isn’t that what he and other Republicans approved in the Republican platform for 2012?

    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57501394/la-gov-bobby-jindal-asks-president-obama-for-more-tropical-storm-isaac-aid/?tag=pop;stories

  3. gdad | August 28, 2012 at 11:51 am

    LOOK!!!! There are teleprompters on that stage. The horror!!!

  4. Jane | August 28, 2012 at 11:57 am

    I saw the nicest political ad on television this morning. No grainy black and white photo of the evil opponent, no scary music, no concerned woman saying that a candidate would hurt our families, or didn’t share our values. Just the candidate whose ad it was talking to the camera about his accomplishments, including taking a pay cut to help out a stressed budget. Very effective!

  5. L.D. | August 28, 2012 at 11:59 am

    Dems, note:

    “The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge,
    But fools despise wisdom and instruction”. God

  6. Shrillary | August 28, 2012 at 12:07 pm

    If you become a “poll” watcher, it is important to know whether those who have been polled are RV [registered voters] or LV [likely voters]. Comparing polls, you must compare which of these categories is included in the numbers. No sense to comparing registered who won’t be voting, to voters who are likely to vote.

    Additionally, if you look into the polling data from Gallup, they under poll non-whites. “The problem lies in the way that Gallup handles the racial composition of its samples, and the findings highlight significant issues with how polls are developed and conducted today.” http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/17/gallup-poll-race-barack-obama_n_1589937.html?utm_hp_ref=@pollster

    Gallup’s own website provides the most in depth numbers behind the polling process.

  7. Dan Casey | August 28, 2012 at 12:11 pm

    “Additionally, if you look into the polling data from Gallup, they under poll non-whites. “The problem lies in the way that Gallup handles the racial composition of its samples, and the findings highlight significant issues with how polls are developed and conducted today.”

    For this reason, the real spread is usually Dems +2 compared to whatever Gallup says. It’s well recognized in the polling world that this is the case.

    But there’s no question there has been a trend of recent tightening in this race. The Dems are still ahead, but they should be concerned.

  8. Suzie | August 28, 2012 at 12:14 pm

    6 And Gallup also oversamples Democrats and uses registered voters.

    Look dear, they desperately want it to go 0bama’s way. Gallup is as frustrated as the rest of the liberals by this.

  9. Shrillary | August 28, 2012 at 12:31 pm

    With “friends” like this…well, you know the rest…

    “The leader of the anti-abortion group Operation Rescue wants GOP delegates to hold off on formally nominating Mitt Romney until funding is promised to the Senate campaign of Rep. Todd Akin (Mo.).

    “Heaven sent a hurricane to hold off Gov. Romney’s coronation, so today we’re urging pro-life GOP delegates to abstain from any voting on Romney’s nomination until all GOP financial support for Todd Akin is reinstated and details of Romney’s income tax returns in connection with Bain’s Stericycle investment have been made public,” Operation Rescue President Troy Newman said.

    http://atr.rollcall.com/operation-rescue-no-votes-for-mitt-romney-until-todd-akin-gets-cash/

  10. matt | August 28, 2012 at 12:35 pm

    There was an ABC/Washington Post poll from yesterday that was conducted on registered voters. Democrats had a sample favoring of D+9, but Romney was up overall by 1 point and polled better with independents by nearly four to one. Romney was also given the edge on Medicare 45% to 42%. Interesting.

  11. Suzie | August 28, 2012 at 2:10 pm

    Operation Rescue President Troy Newman said.

    Should we break it to Shrillary that the former leader and most famous member of Operation Rescue is a huge Democrat?

  12. Lori | August 28, 2012 at 2:37 pm

    Hilarious bio of Mitt by David Brooks in the Times:
    “Mitt Romney was born on March 12, 1947, in Ohio, Florida, Michigan, Virginia and several other swing states. He emerged, hair first, believing in America, and especially its national parks. He was given the name Mitt, after the Roman god of mutual funds, and launched into the world with the lofty expectation that he would someday become the Arrow shirt man.”
    http://tinyurl.com/926272d

  13. Kristen | August 28, 2012 at 2:38 pm

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/28/rush-limbaugh-isaac-obama-convention_n_1835674.html

    “Rush Limbaugh had a typically unique take on the threat of Tropical Storm Isaac during his Monday show, appearing to suggest that the Obama administration had tampered with the forecasts of the storm to hurt the Republicans.

    Rush so crazy!

  14. Ron May | August 28, 2012 at 2:54 pm

    Looks like some large corporations are having second thoughts about Republican efforts with voter id legislation.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-08-27/sprint-joins-ge-in-leaving-policy-group-backing-voter-id-laws.html

  15. Shrillary | August 28, 2012 at 3:01 pm

    Speaking of someone who is for something before they were against it…
    Romney supported Planned Parenthood [donating funds] before he was against them; Romney was for a woman’s right to choose, before he was against it; Romney was for stem cell research [invested in those companies] before he was against it; was for “tough” gun control laws, before he was against them; was for RomneyCare before he was against it and against the auto industry bailout before he took credit for it…

    Poll driven principles – evasive, slippery, and without intellectual honesty.

  16. Ron May | August 28, 2012 at 3:33 pm

    Just like not wanting to discuss their platform that agrees with Re. Akin, they don’t want to discuss the details of the tax cuts they are proposing and how that impacts different groups of tax payers, corporations and the budget.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-08-28/republicans-dodge-tax-details-while-offering-rate-cuts.html

  17. Ron May | August 28, 2012 at 3:42 pm

    Good for Starbucks. Hope they do the same thing in Charlotte next week. I may just stop in my local Starbucks tomorrow and buy a latte. :)

    http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-08-28/starbucks-to-gop-convention-customers-put-away-your-cameras

  18. gdad | August 28, 2012 at 3:45 pm

    #13 Rush will make up anything.

  19. Sandi Saunders | August 28, 2012 at 3:50 pm

    Thanks for explaining yourself LD. We knew it, but it is good of you to confirm it.

  20. Shrillary | August 28, 2012 at 4:34 pm

    Republicans just can’t help themselves. They see this as quite an issue…especially in their own party, so they just HAD to include it in their party’s “platform”:

    The Republican Party is calling for a crackdown on pornography in a move that could pit social conservatives against hotel operators, television providers and other businesses that profit from the sale of sexually explicit material.
    “Current laws on all forms of pornography and obscenity need to be vigorously enforced,” the platform says, according to a draft obtained by Reuters. http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/08/27/us-usa-campaign-porn-idUSBRE87Q1A620120827

    And then there is this…

    “Porn in the USA: Conservatives are Biggest Consumers”
    http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn16680-porn-in-the-usa-conservatives-are-biggest-consumers.html

    Ahhhh, the irony.

  21. Dan Casey | August 28, 2012 at 5:07 pm

    Good grief. I just sat thru 90 minutes of a Roanoke County Board of Supes meeting (issue, nonsecular prayer policy) just to hear them continue the thing for a month.

  22. Debbie | August 28, 2012 at 5:20 pm

    The Republican motto-
    Keep Government Out Of The Boardroom
    Put Government In The Bedroom

  23. steve nelson | August 28, 2012 at 6:34 pm

    Dan…is it not amazing how some anti religious people can waste your time…just takes one..to screw up the whole day after what 225 years.

    What was it in Giles County who was OFFENDED by the Ten Commandments hang on the wall.( kid ain’t getting an education so what is the beef..ONE person screwed up the whole system on bovine scatology..only in 2012 someone is offend..

    What is offensive is the cost to tax payers and the Attorneys taking up worthless cases to make a paycheck and the “media” supporting or “reporting” nada, zilch, nothing!
    Nobody cares!!

  24. Ron May | August 28, 2012 at 8:28 pm

    Most reasonable people knew this already, but this verdict makes it clear that Republicans intend to minimize the minority vote in 2012 and beyond.

    http://www.thenation.com/blog/169602/federal-court-blocks-discriminatory-texas-redistricting-plan#

  25. Suzie | August 28, 2012 at 10:44 pm

    I listened to the Democrat ad in which the Democrat activist women were pretending to be disgruntled Republican women. They were talking about stuff like women having to go back to the back alleys.

    I don’t know if liberal women have abortions as a matter of routine or not, but trust me, mainstream women do NOT give a flying crap about “abortion rights” because most of them will never have one, wouldn’t consider one, nor be in the position to consider one.

    There’s this template being put forward by the left and by the media that all women are loose trashy women like Sandra Fluke. This might be true of the welfare queens and the leftwing loons, but the large majority of married women support Romney and don’t buy the he’s-against-women crap.

  26. dave | August 29, 2012 at 1:24 am

    Dan@21

    Did you go back for the rest of the interminble rehearing on the ICLEI issue? The black helicopoter zealots were out in full force again displaying their full blown paranoia and igmorance. The tea party quartet
    of Greg Hunnicut, Bill Gregory, Greg Aldridge, and Chip Tarbutton showed up in full force in all their conspiracy theory glory to waste another two hours of the board’s time over a 1200 dollar appropriation that has helped save the county hundreds pf thousands. Fortunately two entirely sane Repiblicans (Richard Flora and Mike Altizer) joined with Charlotte Moore to once again fend off the insanity. In the meantime, Ed Elswick displayed his usual knack for not clearly understanding the issue and Butch Church went with whichever way the wind blows in anticipation that he might need those votes when he runs for the board for the umpteenth time in 3 years..

    As for the earlier sectarian/nonsectarian invocation issue, the board members continue rto make it hard on themselves. The simple moment of silence for prayer and or contemplation /refledtion is the obvious answer
    that gives everyone the freedom to do as they see fit without stepping on anyone’s toews or inviting any lawsuits. Once again Butch Church shows that he is a slow learner, having gained no wisdom from the Giles County experience. He wants to turn the issue over to the Liberty Counsel group to carry the county’s water despite the fact that if they lose in court (and thry will) the county would be on the hook for the winning sides legal fees (perhaps as much as 500000).

  27. dave | August 29, 2012 at 1:27 am

    @25 Suzie

    And of course you haven’t seen the Republican ad where some Republican activists were hired to pretend to be disgruntled Obama voters who are unhappy with his “failed” policies.
    Hypocrite.

  28. Dan Casey | August 29, 2012 at 1:43 am

    dave,

    I was there. It was sad.

  29. Alfred | August 29, 2012 at 8:09 am

    Someone explain to me how polls are even accurate anymore. I am assuming that most are taken by telephone. Many households don’t even have a land line and rely solely on their cell phones for communicating. We hardly ever answer our land line, and keep it just for internet.

    I have never been solicited to take a poll on my cell phone and wouldn’t take one if I were.

    How do you get reliable numbers when the cross section of people you poll is shrinking?

  30. gdad | August 29, 2012 at 8:25 am

    Great tidbit on WVTF this morning. The story is about Allen and Kaine campaigning. Allen is talking to a female small business owner (in fact, he sprays perfume on his wrists in her store. Isn’t that sweet?) who is going to vote Republican, so he decides to give her the chance to blast Obama.

    Allen: Well obviously you built this business yourself.

    Woman: But I had friends and family and the community supporting me, and I have an unbelievable staff that helped me.

    Allen thought ballon: Dammit, woman, you’re not supposed to confirm what Obama was actually saying. Crap. Smirk, smirk.

    OK, so I made up that last line but you can just imagine Allen wincing at her answer.

  31. Suzie | August 29, 2012 at 8:29 am

    16 straight days 0bama hasn’t led the Gallup. 13 of those days he trailed. This is the poll that had the GOP ahead zero days in 2008 prior to the convention. Romney is closing in on a $100 million campaign coffer edge on 0bama going down the homestretch. And now, the Democrats are forced to go four days at their convention without mentioning the economy even once. Their slogan now is basically “We will wage war against the unborn”. Sandra Fluke will be one of their featured speakers.

    Will ‘landslide’ be’ an understatement?

  32. Kristen | August 29, 2012 at 9:16 am

    Roanoke County meeting agendas read as though straight out of The Onion.

  33. Shrillary | August 29, 2012 at 9:26 am

    most ill-informed @25 posted, “I don’t know if liberal women have abortions as a matter of routine or not, but trust me, mainstream women do NOT give a flying crap about “abortion rights” because most of them will never have one, wouldn’t consider one, nor be in the position to consider one. ”

    Well dearie, you are way off the mark as usual will your preconceived “facts”. Here are some of the statistics on religious and conservative women’s terminating their “gifts from god”

    “Who’s having abortions (religion)?
    Women identifying themselves as Protestants obtain 37.4% of all abortions in the U.S.; Catholic women account for 31.3%, Jewish women account for 1.3%, and women with no religious affiliation obtain 23.7% of all abortions. 18% of all abortions are performed on women who identify themselves as “Born-again/Evangelical”.
    http://www.abortionno.org/Resources/fastfacts.html

  34. John Wilburn | August 29, 2012 at 9:27 am

    L.D.:

    “The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge,
    But fools despise wisdom and instruction”. God

    The fear of the Lord is the beginning of subordination to the man who convinced you to fear the Lord. The real fools limit their knowledge and instruction to what they receive inside the bounds of that fear.

  35. gdad | August 29, 2012 at 9:52 am

    And here’s a fine tidbit from the convention:

    “A man has been ejected from the Republican National Convention after throwing peanuts at a black camerawoman and shouting ‘this is how we feed animals.’

    Republicans fear the alleged racist incident, which took place at the Tampa Bay Times Forum in Florida yesterday afternoon, will further dent the party’s support among African Americans ahead of the presidential election.”

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2195088/2012-GOP-Convention-Race-row-brews-CNN-claim-black-crew-member-nuts-thrown-her.html#ixzz24wT2yldI

    Mind you, this is a conservative tabloid reporting this.

  36. 13 Suns | August 29, 2012 at 10:24 am

    “I shook the hand of the American dream. And it has a strong grip.” –Rick Santorum

    Anybody else find this as funny as I do?

  37. dave | August 29, 2012 at 10:53 am

    Dan@28

    I watched the whole farce on television. Yes it was sad. On second thought, no, it was more like a comedy routine. Jon Stewart would have had a hard time creating more ridiculous caricatures of idiots. The more I think about it, the more impressed I am that two level headed Republicans like Flora and Altizer stood up to the crazies and berated them for the ugliness that they had created over the issue.We should all sleepo well at nights knowing thaty the likes of Hunnicut, Aldridge, Tarbutton, and Gregory are staying up late and plotting strategies to protect us all from the evil black shadow of the UN in Roanoke County.

  38. Warren | August 29, 2012 at 12:44 pm

    But dave, Gregory Hunnibutton told me himself that he’s heard that if reelected, Obama plans, within a month of his second term starting, to give a speech about the state of the UNion, and he’s already instituted constant video surveillance of Mars. What more proof do you need?

  39. Warren | August 29, 2012 at 12:50 pm

    #31: “Democrats are forced to go four days at their convention”

    The poster’s constant display of ignorance continues.

    The Democratic National Convention runs September 4, 5 and 6.

  40. Art Hill | August 29, 2012 at 4:04 pm

    “dent the party’s support among African Americans”

    Unpossible. According to polls Romney has 0% of the African American vote. ZERO!!

  41. Kristen | August 29, 2012 at 5:35 pm

    How does the local TP expect to be taken seriously. They’re more fit for a straight jacket than public office.

  42. Steve C | August 29, 2012 at 8:30 pm

    #5 LD,

    “The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge,
    But fools despise wisdom and instruction”. God
    Comment by L.D. — August 28, 2012 @ 11:59 am

    Its actually a bit more complicated, LD, and in all fairness I can’t begrudge you for your misunderstanding. You see, liberals are better educated and therefore better readers. We made it all the way through the bible while conservatives with their limited comprehension gave up after the fire and brimstone in the Old Testaments.

  43. Steve C | August 29, 2012 at 8:35 pm

    #31 suz,

    “16 straight days 0bama hasn’t led the Gallup.”

    Oops.

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/150743/Obama-Romney.aspx

  44. John Wilburn | August 30, 2012 at 12:19 am

    Steve C:

    “…liberals are better educated and therefore better readers. We made it all the way through the bible while conservatives with their limited comprehension gave up after the fire and brimstone in the Old Testaments.”

    And hence why more atheists are liberal; they made it all the way through the Bible.

  45. Art Hill | August 30, 2012 at 12:36 am

    “Anybody else find this as funny as I do?”

    Man-on-dog’s got something in a strong grip but it ain’t the American dream.

  46. Suzie | August 30, 2012 at 7:14 am

    Oops.

    OMG. You’re right. That graphic doesn’t show 0bama leading since early July. So make that like…50 days. I wondered why Steve C. hadn’t been making his crazy predictions lately. He’s been as quiet and reticent as a little church mouse. LOL.

  47. Suzie | August 30, 2012 at 7:16 am

    You see, liberals are better educated

    Nope. Romney leads in the college grad category. Just as Bush did both times. 0bama has the HS dropout vote cornered however. Gee, Steve C. isn’t a college grad is he? What a coincidence. LOL.

  48. gdad | August 30, 2012 at 9:49 am

    #47 Why would anybody make up lies like this?. Oh, that’s right, that’s Romney’s whole campaign strategy. Lie, lie, lie, lie.

  49. John Wilburn | August 30, 2012 at 9:50 am

    Suzie:

    “Gee, Steve C. isn’t a college grad is he?”

    Neither are you.

  50. Bill Perdue | August 30, 2012 at 9:50 am

    @LD

    I’ll call, or rather raise you with “there is no fear in love; perfect love drives out fear” 1John 4:18

  51. Suzie | August 30, 2012 at 10:30 am

    Neither are you.

    I most certainly am. I was an engineer for 24 years. You’re the only one who doesn’t seem to know this.

  52. Suzie | August 30, 2012 at 10:32 am

    #47 Why would anybody make up lies like this?.

    Just going by Steve C’s link, skippy.

  53. gdad | August 30, 2012 at 11:17 am

    #53 Sorry, toots, Steve C’s link DOES show Obama leading at various times.

  54. gdad | August 30, 2012 at 11:18 am

    #52 We all know the story you’ve made up.

  55. John Wilburn | August 30, 2012 at 3:55 pm

    Suzie:

    “I most certainly am [a college graduate]. I was an engineer for 24 years. You’re the only one who doesn’t seem to know this.

    You are the only one who would not answer the question. I guess you’re free to make up whatever story you want…

    You’re probably so despised by your former colleagues, that you would be horrified if we ever found out where or when. It must awful to live that way.

  56. Steve C | August 30, 2012 at 5:59 pm

    John W,

    She was an engineer, but with one little qualifier she forgot to mention; “Domestic Engineer”.

  57. Steve C | September 1, 2012 at 3:18 pm

    Actually, John W, it’s true, suz really was an engineer.

    Another well-known factoid about the suzster is that the orifice she talks out of also craps rainbow colored skittles.

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