Romney pollster declares Mitt’s election in the bag
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When last we heard from Neil Newhouse, the Romney pollster was modestly explaining that the GOP’s campaign wasn’t going to be dictated by fact-checkers.
Now that Romney is down in the most recent national polls, it seems Newhouse won’t let it be dictated by reality, either. He has some soothing words for anxious Republicans:
Relax — the Mittster’s election is a sure thing. There is no way the economy won’t drag down President Obama.
That’s the gist of a memo he put out today. Here’s the first and last pargraphs:
“Don’t get too worked up about the latest polling. While some voters will feel a bit of a sugar-high from the conventions, the basic structure of the race has not changed significantly. The reality of the Obama economy will reassert itself as the ultimate downfall of the Obama Presidency, and Mitt Romney will win this race.
“. . .Mitt Romney will be the next President. The outcome of this race will ultimately be determined in favor of Governor Romney because he has the better leadership skills, the better record, and the better vision for where he wants to take the country. These advantages are being fueled by the commitment and determination of volunteers and voters to change direction and move our country on a path toward economic growth and job creation. In short, the combination of having the superior candidate, being in a margin-of-error race with an incumbent President, having a cash advantage, and having an unprecedented grassroots effort and a winning message on the economy ensure that Americans will make a change in leadership in Washington on November 6.”
Heck, why bother to have the election?
September 10, 2012 - 12:14 PM
BTW, Terps just called, begging me to let him out of our bets on the election.
No way!
“Don’t get too worked up about the latest polling. While some voters will feel a bit of a sugar-high from the conventions, the basic structure of the race has not changed significantly. The reality of the Obama economy will reassert itself as the ultimate downfall of the Obama Presidency, and Mitt Romney will win this race.
Who DOESN’T know this??
Cool so now the left and the right are saying this election is over.
Suzie, based on your comments after the RW convention, apparently you.
All Romney has to do is keep the election a referendum on Obama. Obama cannot run on his own record. Things are worse now than 2010.
What we DO know Suzie is there are at least 2 delusional buffoons..
one cheerleader in Romneys Propaganda Parade..
and one in Roanoke that will also lie like a Trump
just to get noticed.
To quote Bill Clinton “It’s the economy, stupid”. Obama has to find a way to make Romney look like the incumbent and then trash him for his handling of the economy.
“Things are worse now than 2010.”
After the Republicans took the House? Absolutely.
“Obama has to find a way to make Romney look like the incumbent and then trash him for his handling of the economy.”
Why am I not surprised that a Republican came up with such a cynical idea?
Which is it? is it worse now than 2008, or 2010? I dunno Bob, You’re stating opinion and not fact. Show us some numbers that things are worse now than in 2008 or 2010.
Fact: Unemployment rate is lower now than in 2010 (and trending lower! Unemployment started its upward trend in 2007.)
Fact: The DJIA is higher than it was in 2008 and 2010 (and trending higher!) showing that faith in corporate ability to make money is back (because they finally have a leash and aren’t allowed to just run rampant with tons of risk!)
I’d like to know just how things are worse now than 2008 or 2010. That maybe we’re paying a little more in gas prices? Is that all you have? That’s just a function of international supply and demand. It has little to do with Obama. If it did, we would have to say he directly influences the price of Milk, Water and Beer too. And I know you’re not that naive.
Kristen,
I have a picture of Andrew Jackson that says the house does not go back in democrat hands in 2012. Are you willing to bet on this?
BobH? I wasn’t looking for a bet. You’re the one who pointed out that things started going to hell after the GOP took the House. Not me.
“5.All Romney has to do is keep the election a referendum on Obama. Obama cannot run on his own record. Things are worse now than 2010.”
Of course they are, since the GOP obstructionists took the House.
And I’ll bet you the same on a Romney victory. How about it?
I think the GOP THINKS they’re doing a good job of making Obama’s record look like the worst thing that’s ever happened to the U.S., but there are many people who celebrate Obama’s achievements. Running on unemployment numbers, and the absence of Economic Utopia less than 3 years after the meltdown of 2008 is VERY wishful thinking on the part of Republicans. Add Romney’s elusiveness, his refusal to discuss his economic plan IN DETAIL, and the constant flip-flopping on social issues, and I believe he has a truly difficult task in trying to convince Dems to come to the other side…
Things are worse now because the republicans didn’t take the senate. Voters overwhelmingly rejected Obama and his policies in 2010 which resulted in the GOP taking over the house and removing the filibuster proof majority Obama had in the senate.
As bad as things were in 2010 when the voters overwhelmingly rejected Obama, they are worse now. The house has repealed Obamacare several times and it doesn’t even come to the floor in the senate.
It is worse now, Obama is still prez, he is up for election, do the math.
“I’d like to know just how things are worse now than 2008 ”
Unemployment was 6.1% in September of 2008. It is 8.3% now. The deficit was about $500B. It is $1,500B now. There are 86,000 fewer jobs today than when Obama took office.
To compare, unemployment was 5.4% when Bush won reelection in 2004.
Yeah, it is worse. Much worse.
It is the economy, it’s just that too many Americans know that the economy is not Obama’s fault. They know he did not create the thirty years of bad that came home to roost as he took office. If they are sentient and not wearing right wing blinders, they know he has worked diligently against a TP/GOP led obstructive Congress. You just cannot fool as many people as you used to be able to fool Henry! Sorry about your luck.
When Clinton ran, Reagan had been in two terms as well. That is when we learned that “trickle down” does not work for anyone except the rich. This nation is reluctant to throw out an incumbent in times of crisis (see W in 2004) and they will stay with Obama, they will keep the Senate with a slight Dem majority and we will whittle away at the TP/GOP House. America is just not that into you! You’ll see.
“Things are worse now because the republicans didn’t take the senate. Voters overwhelmingly rejected Obama and his policies in 2010 which resulted in the GOP taking over the house and removing the filibuster proof majority Obama had in the senate.”
Bob H,
1) Yeah, that’s kinda what happened to Clinton in 1994, remember? Voters so overwhelmingly rejected him that the GOP got control of both houses, and voters some overwhelmingly rejected rejected Clinton in 96 that they re-elected Bill (oops!).
2) If the 2010 congressional races were such an overwhelming rejection, then why didn’t the GOP take control of the Senate?
3)The Dems never had a fail-safe filibuster-proof majority (09-10) and you know it. There were never more than 58 dems and Lieberman (independent) was not a reliable 60th vote.
#15 You compare the unemployment record now with that of September, 2008 because to actually compare it when Obama took office would not support your case. In Jan. 2008 the US Unemployment rate was 5.0. It crept up monthly that year while W was still in office reaching 7.3 in December and 7.8 in January, ’09. Obama’s first full month in office the rate was 8.3 and you are right Henry, it is now 8.1…The unemployment rate (average) for W’s first year in office was 4.7 (it was 4.0 in Clinton’s last full year BTW) and the last month of his presidency, the unemployment rate under W had risen to 7.8. Now that is really what it is like being worse off than you were when the same guy took office.
http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000000
I know you live in an alternate TP/GOP fueled universe, but what difference do you believe having a TP/GOP House and Senate would have made on the economy? Anything they would have done would have inured to Obama and they were damned if that good news was going to happen, so please, do tell what the difference would be.
Romney is going to lose if he keeps up with that annoying question because the TP/GOP has done damned near nothing to help anyone and we all know it. For well over a decade now.
You all are really strangers to logic.
The bag Romney is “in” is made by Glad! Explain this Mittens:
http://www.americanprogressaction.org/issues/healthcare/news/2012/08/24/33897/infographic-how-much-more-will-the-romney-ryan-medicare-plan-cost-you/
“Infographic: How Much More Will the Romney-Ryan Medicare Plan Cost You?”
Current Age 65 = $11,100.00
Current Age 54 = $59,500.00
Current Age 48 = $124,600.00
Current Age 39 = 216,600.00
Current Age 29 = 331,200.00
Not looking good…
16.It is the economy, it’s just that too many Americans know that the economy is not Obama’s fault.
Comment by Sandi Saunders — September 10, 2012 @ 4:49 pm
While I can agree the subprime mortgage crisis originated with the Clinton
administration which impacted Bush’s last year’s in office and still impacts the economy the scandalous, corrupt, and criminal economic policies of Mr. Obama’s administration have brought us to the debt level of $16 trillion. This increase surpasses all other administrations in the
220 year history of the USA. It is all Obama’s…out of control debt, sustained high unemployment and the biggest tax increase in the history of
the world…Obamacare. BTW…Bush tried to reign the subprime mortgage issue but the Democrat majority Congress blocked the effort…just as the
Democrat majority Senate presently blocks all the bills which might alleviate some of the problem. They have not allowed a budget to be passed for four years. This is Democrat/Liberal uneconomics.
Come November…conservative majorities in the WH, Congress and Senate…even so…we are probably going to see another major recession or
depression as the debt Obamaball will burst.
2) If the 2010 congressional races were such an overwhelming rejection, then why didn’t the GOP take control of the Senate?
Comment by Dan Casey — September 10, 2012 @ 5:04 pm
FrankenFraud in Minnesota.
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Michelle O: Skip Pizza for Us
September 10, 2012
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BEGIN TRANSCRIPT
RUSH: A fundraising e-mail from Michelle Obama. Dear Biff…
I know your life is full — with work, or school, or family — and yet you still find the time to help out when you can.
You may have a tight budget, but you give what you can afford.
A woman recently told the campaign her family skipped a pizza dinner at their favorite place so that they could make a difference in this election.
That is the commitment that drives this campaign.
If you can support Barack with a donation today, please know it makes a huge difference. If we win, it will be because of what you did at moments like this….
Thanks,
Michelle
P.S. — It meant a lot to me to speak with you and everyone else last night [at the convention]. Thank you for everything you do.
Sounds like to ME…moochelle is asking people to GIVE up PIZZA…are YOU FREAKIN kidding me…give up a PIZZA for the knuckleheads in the White House..
Suzie…you go girlfriend…thanks for sending lunch to the hospital…the word is out and the conspiracy is over…darn!
Just getting fun…and do not believe any of these polls…barry is going down. Been through this with Jimmy and dingbat Dukakis against 41…
WORDS just WORDS…Democrat Barrack Hussein Obama..the fascist!
From the Unhinged one!
Papa John’s is here…just gave the guy a tip…told I need to send my money for a pizza to BHO…
Desperation!
I’ve found here that generally, moderates and libs will acknowledge data that’s can be viewed as somewhat contrary to their argument. That doesn’t mean the necessarily accept the contrary viewpoint, it’s just that they refuse to dismiss facts that sometimes don’t support their view. It’s a credibility thing.
Michael Howdyshell will do that, too — but just about the rest of the conservatives refuse to acknowledge ANY contrary fact.
It’s like they’re afraid of them or something.
I’ve found here that generally, moderates and libs will acknowledge data that’s can be viewed as somewhat contrary to their argument. That doesn’t mean the necessarily accept the contrary viewpoint, it’s just that they refuse to dismiss facts that sometimes don’t support their view. It’s a credibility thing.
Name one lib who does that.
Really Dan? I’ve seen moderates and centrists acknowledge contrary data, but more often than not the diehards, be the conservatives or libs, don’t acknowledge contrary data. Instead they attack the source of the data or the presenter of the data.
Despite Terps’ anguished tone on the phone this afternoon, I don’t quite believe (as he seems to) that the election is already over and that Obama has won. But if Obama keeps pulling away in the polls that perception’s gonna grow.
And if that happens, I’m going to be like, WTF? In terms of their anathema toward Obama, the GOP base is as energized as the front line of a football team that just swallowed a hundred hits of speed. It’s almost inconceivable that they could lose so early, with all that money they have to push their spin and distortions.
And if it proves to be the case, I’m gonna seriously wonder if they’ll every capture the White House again in my lifetime. Hillary is looking stronger and stronger for 2016.
When you look at voter demographics, you have to wonder if the TP/GOP really believes that their exclusive message is going to win them more and more national voters instead of the less and less it appears? Their position on foreign policy, women, immigrants and minorities are overall atrocious and that means they will continue to be the party of the old, white and wealthy with the right wingers thrown in. The newer generations are not so comfortable with the right. Thanks be to God.
Romney’s continued refusal to offer specifics and plans on anything is a big problem. He and Ryan are both prone to open mouth insert foot at a moments notice. They are as bad as McCain/Palin and they are less honest.
This race is Obama’s to lose, not Romney’s to win.
I often disagree with the viewpoint of Mark Halperin/Time Mag, but I like how he has characterized the Romney campaign and chance of winning in November. I think we will begin hearing this phrase more often…
The Troubles
By Mark Halperin | September 10, 2012
“Super PACs might start shifting their money from the presidential race to save the House majority and look to pick up Senate seats. Romney’s own fundraising will take a hit. Stories about Romney pulling up stakes in Michigan and other ostensible battlegrounds
WILL ADD TO THE DEATH STENCH”. [my caps]
http://thepage.time.com/2012/09/10/the-troubles/#ixzz2679dLSZ9
ve found here that generally, moderates and libs will acknowledge data that’s can be viewed as somewhat contrary to their argument. That doesn’t mean the necessarily accept the contrary viewpoint, it’s just that they refuse to dismiss facts that sometimes don’t support their view. It’s a credibility thing.
Michael Howdyshell will do that, too — but just about the rest of the conservatives refuse to acknowledge ANY contrary fact.
It’s like they’re afraid of them or something.
Comment by Dan Casey — September 10, 2012 @ 7:30 pm
Dan…What?
We are not afraid of anything but the LIBERAL agenda and 46 MILLION on foods stamps.
8.1% unemployment
ROUND 20% unemployment and Under employment
96k jobs created (burger flippers) and 368k left the labor market
65% LABOR participation rate
50% college Unemployment or under employment (screw the parchment)
Sandra Fluke paying $3K for birth control..student at Georgetown Law paying $50k A year… You can buy a rubber for $1.50 at any c store. She is an idiot and should demand a refund for her education.
Global Warming…Do you think for one minute we could have prevented El derecho back in June based on an electric car.
War on Women…(ain’t got no street cred here)
Dan IT AIN’T about BARRY…a facist.
Liberalism is a lie and ignorance is this countries greatest asset.
Go to Williamson Rd Social Service office and see for yourself.
The latest blog comments have been hate mongers, racist, neocons, bigots who oppose Barrack Hussein Obama….
Not about BARRY! His FASCIST IDEALS and Agenda!
You want to make it about his race and VICTIMS…The Tea Party is alive and WELL…remember 2010.
“It’s like they’re afraid of them or something.”
Where your first point was the credibility thing, I think the latter is more of a faith thing. Once they find a “fact” that supports their viewpoint, it automatically becomes a cornerstone. They don’t need any type of verification because they already “know” the truth – they take it on faith. It’s not at all a surprise that many of these people come from or claim religious backgrounds and lives.
The larger proportion of professed conservatives on this blog seem to have a confirmation bias so extreme that the term really needs to be redefined to better suit them. They’re the ones who openly attack any source (and not the data) that refutes their claims and here’s how they do it:
The very act of being non-partisan is a liberal idea to them. They can’t fathom it because the very instant that a non-partisan entity supports an issue that opposes their ideology, that entity becomes a liberal one. Once they deem it as such, it is easily and summarily dismissed.
It’s just a theory.
And to at least touch on the topic of this blog: I like this Neil Newhouse dude. He’s like a dishonest Ned Flanders – always positive… even if he has to fabricate it.
The Congressional Republicans balanced the budget in the 90′s and the Democrats busted it in 2008.
By Marc A. Thiessen, Washington Post
President Obama is touting his foreign policy experience on the campaign trail, but startling new statistics suggest that national security has not necessarily been the personal priority the president makes it out to be. It turns out that more than half the time, the commander in chief does not attend his daily intelligence meeting.
The Government Accountability Institute, a new conservative investigative research organization, examined President Obama’s schedule from the day he took office until mid-June 2012, to see how often he attended his Presidential Daily Brief (PDB) — the meeting at which he is briefed on the most critical intelligence threats to the country. During his first 1,225 days in office, Obama attended his PDB just 536 times — or 43.8 percent of the time. During 2011 and the first half of 2012, his attendance became even less frequent — falling to just over 38 percent. By contrast, Obama’s predecessor, George W. Bush almost never missed his daily intelligence meeting.
I asked National Security Council spokesman Tommy Vietor about the findings, and whether there were any instances where the president attended the intelligence meeting that were not on his public schedule. Vietor did not dispute the numbers, but said the fact that the president, during a time of war, does not attend his daily intelligence meeting on a daily basis is “not particularly interesting or useful.” He says that the president reads his PDB every day, and he disagreed with the suggestion that there is any difference whatsoever between simply reading the briefing book and having an interactive discussion of its contents with top national security and intelligence officials where the president can probe assumptions and ask questions. “I actually don’t agree at all,” Vietor told me in an e-mail, “The president gets the information he needs from the intelligence community each day.”
Read more: http://nation.foxnews.com/president-obama/2012/09/10/why-obama-skipping-more-half-his-daily-intelligence-meetings#ixzz267HpL4a8
Dan,Sandi et al…Answer this question (just facts or not) and why has
Democrat BARRACK HUSSEIN OBAMA not met with “his” economic council since JANUARY…smoke and screen or just more “bovine scatology”.
What a GREAT PRESIDENT….all of your FOCUS on the LEFT is about OBAMA…nothing about anything else!
The gig is up! There are more Tea Party people out there than you can imagine…we (have spoke softly) but will carry a big stick on 11/6.
Wonder why Roanoke Times, MSBNC, NY Times,CBS,NBC,CNN amongst other revenues are FALLING and layoffs grow.
Bottom line we ain’t buying the “bovine scatology” and I am making it my mission to see you fail.
The media is complicit in the farce and propaganda to support a FASCIST AGENDA… BARRY AIN’T COOL!
Despite Terps’ anguished tone on the phone this afternoon, I don’t quite believe (as he seems to) that the election is already over and that Obama has won. But if Obama keeps pulling away in the polls that perception’s gonna grow.
I really can’t tell if Dan is trying to put a happy face on a hopeless situation, if he’s just keeping his comrades’ spirits up, or if he’s really buying the notion that this convention bounce actually means something, but I’ll just paraphrase what Karl Rove said just today. And keep in mind, Romney wasn’t even Rove’s boy.
Karl said firstly, Romney’s lead has grown steadily since April. that on the RCP map all the permanent swings have gone Romney’s way, despite 0bama having spent more money. But he says now that Romney has the huge financial advantage, he’s been able to run ads in places where 0bama has been unable to respond. In parts of Michigan, for example, Mitt has been able to run ads without opposition for about three weeks, and it’s starting make a difference. Karl says Romney will win every swing state except possibly New Mexico, and he won’t even need Virginia, though he thinks Mitt will win here anyway.
Rove noted an interesting thing is happening in NOVA that is edging VA towards Romney, that according state election laws, voters become inactive if they sit out two elections or have moved without re-registering, and that thousands of NOVA voters are inactive, and this would make a huge difference in the election.
When you look at voter demographics, you have to wonder if the TP/GOP really believes that their exclusive message is going to win them more and more national voters instead of the less and less it appears? Their position on foreign policy, women, immigrants and minorities are overall atrocious and that means they will continue to be the party of the old, white and wealthy with the right wingers thrown in. The newer generations are not so comfortable with the right. Thanks be to God.
Tea Party platform: Cut the deficit, stop spending, and hold the line on taxes. If you think most of America doesn’t tie in with that, you aren’t smart. Oh, wait….
Mitt is for Obamacare, whoops, no he’s not. He’s for marijuana, whoops, no he’s not, he’s for tax cuts for the rich, whoops, no he’s not, he’s for Ryan’s budget, whoops, no he’s not. Talk about a sure thing. Mitt’s only for whatever will get him elected. What a grand platform.
obamaville!
CHICAGO TEACHERS WALK OUT…
‘GODFATHER’ LOSES CONTROL…
Turn Down 16% Pay Raise…
Have Highest Average Salary In Nation…
Average $76,000 per year before benefits…
SCHOOLS OPEN — BUT JUST TO SERVE FREE MEALS…
400,000 STUDENTS UNLEASHED…
Cops Pour Onto Streets’…
It really is unbelievable that the GOP has become the party of the wackos. The far right wingnuts, the skinheads, the racists, the ultra religious, the anarchists, the I’m against everything. What a shame that the party of Lincoln is now the party of crazies.
Richard Beason @ 9:48
Amen Brother! My elderly father (a SW farmer) voted reliably Republican until Governor Gilmore took office. In the 2008 election he canvassed and made phone calls for Obama. He says he didn’t leave the party, the party left him. The current crop of Republicans from Cuccinelli to Romney/Ryan simply disgust him – he says he would be embarrassed to claim the party as it presently exists.
“When Clinton ran, Reagan had been in two terms as well.”
Actually, when Clinton ran, GHWB had been in one term.
LOL, Chuck, I had forgotten about him! Thanks! My bad.
I have republican friends and family admitting to me that they are really sick of the GOP back stabbing and cannibalism that happened in the GOP primaries. I think this hangover will carry over to the GOTV for Romney. Yeah, he’ll get the ones who want to vote against Obama, but lots of people like to vote FOR someone. Folks just aren’t going to take the time to vote FOR Romney.
Obama will peak at the right time and garner 300 or more electoral votes.
Voter suppression attempts by the GOP controlled state houses will backfire big time in States like Ohio, Pennsylvania and Florida. Democrat GOTV will see to it this election is NOT stolen.
Mittens only remaining hope is the debates….I can see Mittens now betting Obama 10k on a game of H.O.R.S.E. No, seriously.
It’s one thing to lie about a man when he’s not standing in front of you, it’s another to look him in the eye and do it. Romney is toast.
Suzie, if you think the “Tea Party” is a real party with a real platform, well, you are not smart, and that proves it.
BTW, normal Americans know that the simplistic “Cut the deficit, stop spending, and hold the line on taxes” meme is just childish, unrealistic and not even on the table for your own damn candidate!
Since I know you conservatives don’t step outside the bubble:
The economy is weak and Americans are unhappy. But Obama’s ahead because the GOP is an aristocratic party that favors the super rich. And Mitt Romney is its perfect poster boy.
The Impermanent Republican Majority
Oh no, no, no Henry. You have whined about Obama not presenting a budget and now you want Congress to be given the credit for the Clinton budgets? Oh hell no!
Any way you slice it, it was W who busted the budget progress of the Clinton budgets and W who blew out the deficit so that we had nothing but more of it to go to in time of crisis. America knows this and you are fooling no one. That is why Obama is not blamed. People know what happened.
You think America is stupid enough to elect a Wall Street fat cat after what Wall Street did to this nation? A man who does not even keep his money here? Wrong and wrong in a big way!
Wrong on too many levels to count Leon. You truly need to get out of the spin zone every now and then. You look dishonest when you say things that are not true. Clinton had a veto proof Congress and had to make some unseemly deals and Dems were as willing to believe in the tooth fairy as the GOP was, but the repeal of Glass-Steagall was the start of Wall Street financial paper pushers who invented credit default swaps and derivatives and other weapons of financial mass destruction that ruined our economy with the housing bubble. It is documented fact Leon, not the fable you are pushing.
“The Big Short: Inside the Doomsday Machine”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/12/AR2010031202291.html
I’ve been feeling kinda bad for Mitt in the last 6 weeks or so, except for a couple days last week when I mistakenly believed he was gaining on Obama.
So I’ve been endeavoring to cheer him up!
My house is getting polled about 6 times/week now. Typically, 5 of these are automated. The most frequent one is “Independent Voter Research.”
The robocaller data from my number shows that I’m a black female, 30-39, who usually leans Democrat but this time is voting Romney-Allen-Goodlatte.
If they’re live I tell’em the same thing about who I’m voting for.
Do you feel better now, Mitt?
yeah boy, you libs are sure excited to re-elect obama to see what he meant when he told medvedev to tell putin to “be patient, after the election, I will have more flexibility…” at which point he solemnly yet tenderly patted medvedev’s hand… whatcha think obama was referring to when he wanted putin to know that he/obama would “have more flexibility” after the election. For what, ya think?
you libs have no intellectual curiosity about anything obama does, do you? c’mon, watcha think he was referring to, huh?
Sandi @ 48. You be wrong and wrapped in your warped ideology. I never
mentioned Wall Street but presently, and in 2008, the big Wall Street tycoons are lined up with the Liberals. Tax Cheat Timmy was one of them
until Mr. Obama appointed him Treasury Secretary.
This economy and the debt bomb that will crash it belongs to the Liberals.
I know you refuse to acknowledge same either out of ignorance or just sheer fanatical loyalty. But there is enough out there where truth will out. We ultimately will bring the criminals to justice who perpetrated
corruption and cronyism as demonstrated in Solyndra, GM bailout, Delphi Pension scandal, the EPA’s Green mess, and Fast and Furious.
Lypocrisy will end.
So dan is a black female and were supposed to take data serious? You just proved they are bunk.
I’m wondering who/what the RWers are going to blame when Obama wins in November. My bet is they will lay the blame on Romney; double down on far right politics and say something to the effect “if we’d only nominated Santorum”. Hopefully, they will get the message that America wants our Government to work together for “we the people” but I doubt that will happen.
Yeah Frank, much like you all had “no intellectual curiosity about anything bush did! He “kept us safe” alright!
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/11/opinion/the-bush-white-house-was-deaf-to-9-11-warnings.html?_r=1
And you still think America is dumb enough to elect his doppelganger?
I think we can safely put frank in the voting “against” crowd. I have yet to hear anything positive from frank to encourage a vote for Romney.
When I get polled I just tell then I’m retired and thankful that the GOP is watching out for us seniors and to make sure they don’t let Obama steal our medicare. That gets them orgasmic.
well, sandi and cold p (let’s go with just “pee” for short…), well you guys, what did obama mean when we all saw him say, and heard him say those words? and, how ’bout that nice “re-assuring pat” he gave medvedev? was he saying, “just wait until after i win, and i’ll be able to do whatever you commies (oops, he wouldn’t have said “commies…”), well “my comrades” want me to do after i win…
I know, how about ol’ market timer dano chiming in with a 30 column inch article explaining to you folks what obama was REALLY thinking of, and referring to, with medvedev. i know, maybe ol dado can post a picture of obama and medvedev in their “very close together, private conference”, with those little “what are they thinking?” clouds above their heads. Yeah, that’s the ticket!
by the way sandi, with Bush, he had substantial bi-partisan support for just about everything he did. In those areas where he didn’t have bi-partisan support, he lost. I’m not bitter about that.
hey pee, what’s Romney got to do with obama being caught on video AND audio with medvedev like he was? ya think that was one of obama’s finer foreign policy moments? And, what do YOU think obama was referring to?
Frank, have you missed the part where the USSR fell? The “commies” lost that one.
Well, well, well…so 38% of white Southern folk aren’t crazy about Romney’s rich guy attitude…they like republicans, they like conservatives, they are religious, but they just aren’t that into Romney…
“Southern Whites Troubled by Romney’s Wealth, Religion”
Reuters/Ipsos polling data compiled over the past several months shows that, across the Bible Belt, 38 percent of these voters said they would be less likely to vote for a candidate who is “very wealthy” than one who isn’t. This is well above the 20 percent who said they would be less likely to vote for an African-American.
[...]
According to Reuters/Ipsos polling data, however, 35 percent of voters overall, and the same proportion of lower- and middle-income white Bible Belt voters, say they would be less likely to vote for a candidate who is Mormon.
http://in.reuters.com/article/2012/09/11/us-usa-election-poll-bible-belt-idINBRE88A05H20120911
kriste, yeah yeah. i got a little carried away, didn’t i? well, he simply went with “comrades”, which he whispered…oops…, nooo,… when he spoke clearly and distinctly to medvdev, but all the while obama was unaware his mike was on…oh yeah, he is one SMART guy all right!
by the way, what do YOU think obama was referring to when he was “captured” saying what we all heard him say to medvedev?
#50 – Gee, Frank. I don’t know for sure what he meant, since I’m not him, but I can wager a guess from the context. If you can take the partisan glasses off for a minute and evaluate it, you might be able to absorb a little context, too.
At the time of the statement, Obama had dealt with over three years of stonewalling and obstruction. He knew that the GOP had adopted a “we’re against whatever he’s for” stance and therefore that forces him into an inflexible position, especially when dealing with military affairs with Russia.
What the GOP has tried to manufacture into an “AHA!” moment is in actuality a direct result of their own tactics. But for their actions, his statement would never have happened.
In Obama’s second term, most politicians will be more focused on the future of their own careers rather than his. After all, when he’s out, he’s out for good. There will still be the knuckleheads who want to demonize El Hombre Negro Terrible, but the true motivation of their venom will be easily revealed and thus, more easily dismissed. Does this not give Obama much more flexibility when it comes to international diplomacy?
Look, there are a lot of things that Obama has/hasn’t done that piss me off about him, but one thing he has done that seems to seriously chafe GOP butts is persevere through it all. He’s still managing to get things done in spite of all the obstruction. Only time will tell if he’s doing the right things.
The real problem is that Romney is a freaking joke and if this is the best the GOP has to offer, you’d all better get used to saying the words “President Obama” for four more years. When conservatives abandoned actual substance in favor of an ideology based almost entirely on spin and obfuscation, they abandoned me. If the clown show that you currently have representing your “interests” is what you really want, be my guest and vote accordingly. But please, step back from the spin, pundits and op-eds and evaluate the entire picture before you do so. Objectivity is key.
Bleh. Just another bloviating, garrulous diatribe from J.M. White. He’s a[n alleged] filthy internet liberal. Move along. Nothing to see here.
“The “commies” lost that one.”
Except 20% of Russia’s State Duma is made up of Communists, the second largest political group in the Duma. Not to mention the millions of Russians who still vote for those “commies” every election. Sure, the Soviet Union was dissolved, but it’s highly disingenuous to act like Russia doesn’t have a major “commie” element still lurking in it’s government.
“by the way, what do YOU think obama was referring to when he was “captured” saying what we all heard him say to medvedev?”
How on earth would I know what they were talking about? I imagine we’ll find out.
Frank, Like I said, give me one positive reason to vote for Romney.
You can’t do it. When you go to the polls in November, you go as a hater.
I feel sorry for you that your party put up such a crappy candidate. Romney is going to get landslided back to the Caymen Islands.
Cheers!
“In Obama’s second term, most politicians will be more focused on the future of their own careers rather than his. After all, when he’s out, he’s out for good. There will still be the knuckleheads who want to demonize El Hombre Negro Terrible, but the true motivation of their venom will be easily revealed and thus, more easily dismissed. Does this not give Obama much more flexibility when it comes to international diplomacy?”
Nice point, JMWhite. It’s true in other areas as well. Since 2010, the GOP’s explicitly announced No. 1 priority has been to assure Obama isn’t re-elected. Once he is, they lose that goal, and then maybe they’ll get back to governing for the sake of this country’s future, rather than governing for the sake of the president’s political future.
“Except 20% of Russia’s State Duma is made up of Communists, the second largest political group in the Duma.”
Holy kamoley!
I’d bet you RWers put the percentage higher in America!
“Except 20% of Russia’s State Duma is made up of Communists, the second largest political group in the Duma.”
So? They were more or less duly elected. You’d be amazed what happens in a democracy…all kinds of people get elected. For what it’s worth, matt, there are people here who claim that we have a “major commie element” lurking in our own government. Oh, and that Obama’s a “commie”. I mentally subtract one IQ point per usage of the term “commie” by anyone, unless contained in quotes in some ironic fashion. “Commie” talk is so 1950s.
“I’d bet you RWers put the percentage higher in America!”
Thanks, Frank Marshall Davis!
“They were more or less duly elected. You’d be amazed what happens in a democracy…”
C’mon, Kristen. You can’t really be serious. The terms “democracy” or “federation” or “duly elected” should always be used in quotes in regards to Russia. Just look at Putin’s last election as an example. He had already served his 8 years as president and term-limits forced him out. So he and his hand-picked puppet Medvedev essentially re-wrote the Russian Constitution, thus allowing Putin to again be “voted” president of Russia. I’m sure you already know of the widespread claims by the Russian people regarding strong-arm tactics, voter suppression, and massive voter-fraud during Putin’s “re”-election. Keep in mind this is a man who was an avowed member of the Communist Party for nearly 17 years. “Commie” is certainly a term that fits ol’ Vladimir.
“Just look at Putin’s last election as an example. He had already served his 8 years as president and term-limits forced him out. So he and his hand-picked puppet Medvedev essentially re-wrote the Russian Constitution, thus allowing Putin to again be “voted” president of Russia.”
Wow. What a great idea from MDM. Since many foaming-at-the-mouth RWers already consider Obama “a dictator,” Obama could easily work the same constitutional magic here, (right?) to assure his residency in the White Hosue for life!
Yes Frank, the Dems in Congress were willing to work with Bush to govern the nation. The TP/GOP is not remotely interested in governing or helping the nation, they have one goal and they are going to blow it. We see through them.
So what, matt. Anyone who was in politics in the USSR during most of the 20th c were in the communist party…that’s all there was.
What you’re describing is a dictator, which is entirely different from “commie”. I don’t see him moving to abolish ownership of private property.
Kristen,
I’d rather not get into an argument of semantics, which is essentially the gist of your last post. We could go back and forth for a long time on this one. “Commie” is simply a negative word attached to those who have Communist beliefs…and Putin was a member of the Communist Party for 17 years, hence, the guy is a friggin’ commie. Just because he isn’t trying to abolish ownership of private property doesn’t take away his commie pedigree.
“Wow. What a great idea from MDM. Since many foaming-at-the-mouth RWers already consider Obama “a dictator,” Obama could easily work the same constitutional magic here, (right?) to assure his residency in the White Hosue for life!”–Comment by Dan Casey
Hey, Dano. Ummm, you libs already tried this. Did you forget about your own liberal icon, FDR?? Only death could remove him from office!
Master’s-degree Matt,
No libs ever tried to change the constitution to allow FDR to be president for life. He was elected 4 times, constitutionally, under rules devised by the founding fathers.
The only change to the constitution that ever occurred with regard to term limits on the presidency went the other way, in 1951.
Did you get your graduate degree in history?
If so, I don’t think you got your money’s worth.
Words mean things, matt. Dont blame me for assigning them their correct meaning.
A communist is a socialist who uses violence to achieve his ends. 0bama has delved into a little of that with his SEIU goons beating up some Tea Party people, and with the violence wrought by the Occupy nuts.
I don’t think many would doubt he’d use whatever ends were necessary if the political consequences didn’t hurt him. In other words, he’s a communist waiting for an opportunity.
It’s really astounding the mayhem and violence the OWS thugs were able to get away with without a whimper from the MSM. On the other hand, the Tea Party is as peaceful as a mass movement can possibly get with, so the media has invented stories of violence about them, from the alleged spitting on a Congressman, to inciting the shooting of another.
This is the leftwing media we have today. They aren’t interested in the truth; they willingly spread and repeat lies to achieve their agenda. Unfortunately, Dan is no exception.
Now Dana,
You’ve bragged to others on your blog about knowing my last name and you validated that I graduated from Hollins. It’s obvious (and a bit creepy) that you’ve done some “homework” on me. So, why all the silly questions that you already know the answers to?
You are correct that libs didn’t have to change the Constitution for FDR. FDR was the REASON they established the 22nd Amendment, passed by Congress in 1947. Lol. You see, ol’ FDR felt that the 143 years of term-limit tradition established by GW, Thomas Jefferson, and other Founding Fathers who became President shouldn’t apply to him. Heck, the man ran for (and won) a fourth term knowing that he was going to be dead in six months and Harry Truman was going to be president without actually having earned it. Either way, we both know you got the point. The American people did not want such an obvious abuse of power to EVER happen again. But hey, keep defending it if you like.
Speaking of the 22nd Amendment, Harry Reid has some interesting ideas on the subject. You should check that out…
MDM,
A constitutional amendment takes effect only after it’s ratified by 3/4 of the states. When Congress passes the resolution for the thing has little meaning — if it did, the ERA would be in the constitution, duh. Thus, the year you cite is meaningless. Another history fail. Obviously, you didn’t get your degree in history.
Tell us more about “the tradition” of which you speak. And then answer this question: if “tradition” is so important to you, why aren’t you calling for Romney to release his tax returns, a tradition begun by his dad?
That’s how we know you believe tradition is bunk, and how weak your argument is in that regard.
76. “Words mean things, matt.”
Yes Kristen, they do. I thought I made that clear in post #73.
Dana,
The act of Congress passing the amendment is what legitimizes the amendment and enables it to be ratified by the states. Passing it has to happen FIRST. Without CONGRESS passing it, it would never have made it to ratification. DUH. Thus, your gleeful attempt at a history “gotcha” is meaningless. Another history fail. Obviously, you didn’t get your degree in history…or poly sci…or writing…or….
What is weak is your if/then question regarding a candidates’ tax returns and trying to compare that to presidential term limits…
And I guess your’re just going to continue asking questions you already know the answer to, right Dano? Weak.
For people so sure of a win (landslide even from those the most gone), you RWers are sure sounding desperate and tin foilish.
Yes Matt,you tried to randomly explain that “commie” is just a generic negative modifier. It’s not.
hey clintonista…you know who you are…, surely you remember the televised, pointed words obama uttered to McCain during the health care lecture obama called on both parties to attend and participate in….”elections have consequences, John, and you lost”. yep, now THERE was some real honest to goodness lib leadership!
you libs forget what century we all live in, and there is video, audio, and transcripts of all of what is done, not done, said, un-said, etc. for all political persuasions, even libs! HaHa!
hey pee, here we go:
1. Romney’s administration is not likely to engage in a foreign policy that causes the US embassies/consulates to be stormed in Egypt and Libya, with our own consulate staff killed in the process…as happened today.
2. Romney is not likely to “lead from behind”, as obama has done in Libya…and where a US Consulate staffer was just killed today…
3. Romney is not likely to refuse to meet, after being requested to do so, with the leader of our “best” friend in the Middle East, that being the Prime Minister of Israel.
4. Romney would have already begun work on the pipeline from Canada scuttled by obama….Romney would have already had that thing going, good-paying jobs would already be created…
5. Romney would not have permitted US guns to be allowed, while under his oversight, to leave the US and enter the hands of murderous thugs in Mexico, by which at least one US border patrol agent was killed, along with hundreds of Mexican citizens.
Is that enough for your pea-brain to absorb, pee?
Re: Comment by Rants & Raves (w/ lies) — September 11, 2012 @ 7:36 pm
Only a fool tries to win arguments by using the Arbitrary Redefinition fallacy and other related Equivocation fallacies.
OYOH, of course, we have the admission of old Rants & Raves (w/ lies), “Fortunately, I [old Rants & Raves (w/ lies)] get to decide what I [old Rants & Raves (w/ lies)] mean.” — #46 @ http://tinyurl.com/44ee4mg
Hence she/he thinks that he/she can redefine terms like “communist” and “socialist” w/o folk dismissing the rants as pure fool’s babble.
The stupid from the anti-Obama crowd here never ceases to amaze me. OWS was a violent uprising? Obama is “waiting” for an excuse to … to … to do what and by what means? The American people — the same ones who elected FDR 4 times — didn’t want another 4-term president?
“For people so sure of a win (landslide even from those the most gone), you RWers are sure sounding desperate and tin foilish.”
They can read the tea leaves for the election, Sandi. It explains why they’re coming unhinged and trying to argue that Bush/Cheney didn’t cook up an intel scheme to justify invading Iraq.
The tell is when they foolishly start trying to blame Clinton, like Frank did.
“1. Romney’s administration is not likely to engage in a foreign policy that causes the US embassies/consulates to be stormed in Egypt and Libya, with our own consulate staff killed in the process…as happened today.”
So let’s ask the question: Who is likely to engage in a foreign policy that causes rebellions that include sacking foreign embassies?
A: George W. Bush and Dick Cheney, that’s who! That was one of the main goals of deposing Saddam. (The others were to grab Iraq’s oil and exact revenge for Saddam’s attempt on George HW Bush’s life). It was to establish a “beach head for Democracy” in the Middle East that would spread to other nations.
And now that that has happened in Libya, Egypt, and now that it’s in progress in Syria, those same neocons are going crazy that the Muslim Brotherhood is gaining power in those nations. They A) didn’t get the oil like they wanted and B) they traded nonsectarian strongmen for Islamic revolutionaries — oops.
Do over time in neoconville!
hey J.M., I always enjoy reading your posts!
As far as your earlier comment to me about the “clown show” concerning republicans…I could just as easily point to the guy you think has “persevered” enough to warrant a 2nd term… as a clown. He has a record now, which he didn’t have when he ran in 2007-08. Well, he DID have a record, but in my opinion, the main stream media refused to vet it.
In my opinion, obama has led from behind in sufficient in manner and fashion to warrant the Libyans attacking our Libyan consolate and killing one of the consolate’s staff…today. His speech in Cairo several years ago was so inspirational that the Egyptians have attacked our embassy in Cairo and burned our flag….today. I don’t know the status as of now…but it does appear dire…if not now, then tomorrow… Then we have obama’s refusal…today… to grant a requested meeting with the Prime Minister of Israel, who is our best friend in the Middle East, and who we appear to be frenetically disenfranchising as our friend with comments such as, “Israel should begin negotiating with the palestinians with borders that existed prior to the 1967 war…and, well, remember just last week when the leaders of the democrat party wrote-out reference to Jerusalem as Israel’s capital…before they wrote it back in….against the wishes of what appeared to be a loud majority of the delegates?
Then we have the oil pipeline from Canada fiasco…yeah boy, let’s thumb our nose at our neighbor to the north, who will sell it’s oil to some other buyer, if not us. However, J.M.,when you get a breath, please help me understand how approval of that pipeline would have harmed the US economy, harmed our ability to create more good-paying jobs for our own out-of-work American citizens, and harm our relationship with our northern neighbor with who we share are largest border?
Next, let’s go south-of-the-border, to the the “guns for what?” program. Why has obama put the clamps on further investigation of what went on with those guns? Those guns have killed a US border patrol agent doing his job, along with allegedly hundreds of Mexican citizens, many of whom are presumed innocent.
Why did obama grease the wheels for Brazil to drill for off-shore oil, then thwart that practice off Virginia’s shore?
I’m not even gonna go into the debt, free rubbers for all women who want them, soaking the rich to pay our country’s way out of that debt I said I wouldn’t mention, and oh yeah, the response to this country’s out of work citizens from THIS administration. Extending unemployment payments does not solve the problem of our country not having enough jobs to employ all who want to work.
As far as medvedev and putin, and obama’s captured video and comments to and regarding same…well think about it J.M., for just a minute. If what you say is true, then why on earth did our.., in my opinion…, our clown of a potus, feel the need to say so to medvedev and putin? Seriously. If 2 guys in southwest Virginia are able to understand the concept of what you described…and I do understand what you said about “but for their actions (meaning those dastardly republicans…), his statement would never have occured”. Are you serious, really? …don’t you think the former soviets understand that as well? Again, are you serious? Do you really think putin and medvedev are as naive about our politics as you imply…and that obama felt he “had” to tell them what he told them, as though he thought they didn’t already understand the politics behind what you and I can easily grasp?
Thanks for offering me your thoughts on my earlier post.
Frank,
1. No, Romney is more likely to unilaterally nuke Russia, our greatest enemy.
2. Libya was a huge success. No boots on the ground. No 10 year war bleeding US soldiers and treasure.
3. You’re right Frank. Lap dog Romney would most likely send in the Marines to Iran at the slightest suggestive hint from Israel.
4. Obama has reduced foreign independence on oil more than any other president than in the past 40 years. He is smart to get all the facts in before just opening up government lands to rape and pillage by corporations that can’t be trusted to do the right thing.
5. Bush began the Guns to Mexico program. Ever heard of “Operation Gun Runner?” Unfortunately, Obama has carried on many of the misguided programs leftover from the Bush regime. He is doing his best to end them. We are no longer at war in Iraq and he is fulling his promise to end the war in Afghanistan.
Frank, you are a mental giant. Please keep the zingers coming, you are hilarious. I bet you changed thousands of voters minds with your command of current events and the political landscape we find ourselves in today.
Unfortunately I’d say you just pissed off some independent voters and lost more votes for Mittens than you gained. Good work!
Just to set the record mstraight for little mattie, Congress does not necessarily have to ratify or approve or propose and amendment to the constitution. That process may be initiated by the states and handled through a convention process that does not require congressional approval. That process has not been used so far in amending the constitution but its still there and can still be used.
Thank you, DaveHicks. I’m pretty sure we can’t just assign random definitions to words that already have actual definitions. No doubt we can expect them to start nattering on about their “Commie ingrown toenail” or “Commie groundhog eating their tomatoes”.
” No, Romney is more likely to unilaterally nuke Russia, our greatest enemy.”
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! LBJ, is that you?
Kristen, you are really struggling with the simple concept that “commies” are just people with Communist beliefs (though I’m not surprised). It’s fun to watch you flail about. Please, carry on.
hey pee, of one thing i am certain…your guy’s created and implemented middle east policy has BOMBED. your guy’s “re-set” of relations with Russia has FAILED. your guy’s out-streched had to Iran gets spit on by them every day. your guy’s recent decision to foregive a substantion portion of Egypt’s debt to us (the US taxpayer), is, under the circumstances, repugnant.
hey, but he’s got your vote!
“. . .your guy’s out-streched had to Iran . . .”
What a crock. Frank is getting just as desperate as Romney.
#97 Aww, look at Frank’s new insult. How friggin’ clever can you get? Are you in first grade yet?
Yes Frank, he does. And until you learn to address me in an adult manner, F O.
Hey gdad, speaking of clever grade-school insults:
“…ASSHATS like RASH will claim it was all a setup to try to make him look like a hero. Somebody call TURDBUSTERS on these guys!”
Comment by gdad — September 11, 2012 @ 11:31 am
hey ol’ dano, what’s your take on the chant that the folks who stormed our embassy in Egypt were, well, chanting…as they stormed the walls?
Did it have anything to do with “obama, obama, we are a billion of osmamas…”, or something like that. They sure weren’t pissed off at Bush. ya think obama maybe made too much about killing their guy, osama?
As far as that question is concerned, do you think they also might have heard ol’ hillary’s cackle as she discribed osama’s killing?
oh, and p, you’ve unloaded particularly vile venom long enough. it doesn’t make you appear smart. it doesn’t make you bigger and stronger. you want to act like a kiddie, I’ll treat you like one.
oh, and dano, you mean obama has with-drawn his hand of friendship to iran? when did THAT happen, exactly. please provide the words, in “quote” fashion, which told us he has withdrawn his hand of friendship from iran, along with the context, of course.
#104 Wow, Frank, are you really unaware that the Obama-led economic sanctions are severely impacting the Iranian economy? Yes, I know that Netanyahoo is whining for more, but the last thing we need is Israel trying to dictate foreign policy to us.
“Commie” is simply a negative word attached to those who have Communist beliefs…”
Really matt? I pointed out that that Putin hasn’t done anything to demonstrate “communistic beliefs”…as in engage in installing a regime reflecting actual real communist values, such as the outlawing of private property.
But you and Suzie like to play the same “Words mean what I feel like saying they mean” game, so carry on. I guess your masters wasn’t in political science.
“you libs forget what century we all live in, and there is video, audio, and transcripts of all of what is done, not done, said, un-said, etc. for all political persuasions” Comment by Frank — September 11, 2012 @ 9:41 pm
Okay, Frank, if what you say is true, give me a link to the video, audio, and transcripts of the Cheney energy policy task force of 2001. Go right ahead…
Kristen, like I said earlier…I knew you would simply turn this into a game of semantics. That’s all you have. Lol. And your degree (Bachelors of course) was in what, again? Yeeeah, that’s what I thought…
Frank, you really think you can silence me with your silly high school bullying? Think again. You and your kind have whined long enough about perceived loss of US stature and imaginary loss of freedoms since Obama came to office. Get over it and get over yourself. You just re-affirm to rational folks what conservatives are really about. Me, me me.
Cold, he is solidly not worth the effort.
The most solid reasons to vote for Obama: Suzie, Pistol Pete, Frank, matt, steve, Henry, and Leon. Need I say more?
silence you, p? nah, i just put you in your place.
hey warren, that stuff’s all stored with obama’s gun walking expedition papers, and will soon be joined by the emails, memos, etc., concerning who knew what and when regarding the over-throw of the US consolate in Libya and the US embassy in Egypt yesterday….likely right next to obama’s college records.
gdad, I actually agree with some of what you say. I don’t think our foreign policy should ever be dictated to us by others. I also don’t think we’ve been consistant with Israel…just last week the lib-democrat party tried to remove language from their party platform, such action which would have directly implied that the lib-dem party wanted Israel to not think we supported Jerusalem remaining their capital. It might just be the “little” things…, … seriously, whats the harm in having Israel know we have their back? It appears to me, and to an awful lot of the American Jewish community, who whole-heartedly supported obama….that the pres doesn’t have Israel’s back.
hey dano, when did obama withdraw his extended hand of friendship from iran? how did he do it? did he tell iran? did he tell us? what were his meaningful quotes? what were the contexts of his quotes?
take your time, i won’t hold my breath.
#108 (door)matt,
“Lol. And your degree (Bachelors of course) was in what, again? Yeeeah, that’s what I thought…”
Comment by matt — September 12, 2012 @ 5:38 pm
Dear God in Heaven! I can’t believe (door)matt is trying to play the trump card with his Hollins master’s degree.
Behold! Here are the master’s level offerings from this highly esteemed intuition of higher learning straight from their website;
Children’s Literature
Creative Writing
Dance
Liberal Studies
Playwriting
Screenwriting and film Studies
Teaching
Certificate of Advanced Studies(Applied science of sewwing circles? Underwater basket weaving?)
I’m not sure what these degrees are useful for other than trolling for that elusive post-grad forth finger bling from well-to-do W&L wankers but the safe money says (door)matt will reply in a few minutes defending his colossal waste of time and money!
“Women who are going places start at Hollins!”
My bet is a master’s in dance.
Not that there’s anything wrong with that, of course.
Alcoholic Steven!
I was wondering when you’d make an appearance! I see you’ve awakened from your most recent alcohol-induced stupor…at least long enough to neck-puke a little bit. Good for you, old guy. Now, let’s have some fun.
Regarding your post (and Hollins), it would seem that you’ve nearly thrown just about every bleedin’ heart lib (yourself included) under the bus. Lol. I’d love to see you spout your drivel in a room full of Hollins women-they’d smack your staggerin’ carcass around all night. It’s also rather amusing that in your desperation to insult me, you had to attempt to smear an entire University’s Graduate Program. Lol. Coming from you, Alcoholic Steven, that is funny.
I wonder what Chris Perkins, Roanoke Chief of Police would say regarding your comments? He earned his master’s degree from Hollins. I wonder what Mayor of Roanoke David Bowers (Democrat) would say regarding your comments? He also earned his master’s degree from Hollins. Or, perhaps, even The Roanoke Times’ very own Shanna Flowers?–Oops. Lol. Yep, THAT Shanna Flowers. Ol’ Shanna is on track to graduate quite soon from the Hollins Grad Program. I wonder what she would have to say regarding your comments? You should check out her bio Alcoholic Steven, it’s quite impressive. Either way, I’m sure Dano has no problem with you insulting any of his former colleagues or where they went to school, right Dano?
#115 Now, now, Steve C, not all W&L grads are wankers.
“silence you, p? nah, i just put you in your place.”
Please elaborate frank. Just where do you think is my “place?”
“the pres doesn’t have Israel’s back.”
The majority of the American Jewish community doesn’t support the hard line policies of Mr. Netanyahu. There won’t be enough Ativan in the world to placate people like Frank when this president wins a second term.
(door)matt, we can infer from your reply that comprehension is a skill that obviously isn’t included in their masters level curriculum at Hollins; again, but slowly this time so that even Hollins girls of both sexes can understand the question I ask of you; which of these fine programs did you earn your master’s degree in?
Children’s Literature
Creative Writing
Dance
Liberal Studies
Playwriting
Screenwriting and film Studies
Teaching
Certificate of Advanced Studies(Applied science of sewing circles? Underwater basket weaving?)
Stop hiding under the skirts of your class mates, (door)matt, and man up and explain to me which one of these degrees gives you the privilege to get all bitchy with Kristen about her degree?
Please keep in mind, (door)matt, I didn’t ask about the chief of RCP, the mayor or someone who writes for the newspaper; I asked about your specific master’s degree.
Please reach out if you have any more questions, (door)matt.
Remember,”Women who are going places start at Hollins!”
“Not that there’s anything wrong with that, of course.”
Nice Seinfeld reference.
“I asked about your specific master’s degree.” Hey Alcoholic Steven, can you quote for me from your first post your direct question regarding which degree I earned? Thanks. I’ll wait. Pounding the ol’ bottle again last night, eh? Lol.
You have enough personal information about me, right? Between you and Dano, your obsession with my personal life is a bit creepy. I’ll tell you what, Alcoholic Steven. Since you are so very interested in my life, why don’t YOU man up, and let me know if you ever want to meet personally, so we can work things out. That would be fun, right old man?
So, let’s talk about YOUR life, Alcoholic Steven. What kind of master’s degree does one earn that enables them to become a factory worker? I’ve always wanted to work in a factory, Alcoholic Steven, especially when I become as old as you are. I imagine that retirement package is killer, right? So can you help me out with this one?
“Stop hiding under the skirts of your class mates, (door)matt, and man up and explain to me which one of these degrees gives you the privilege to get all bitchy with Kristen about her degree?”–Umm, Alcoholic Steven, it appears that you have a major reading comprehension problem(it’s the booze, man). If you had bothered to read with your bloodshot eyes the two posts above my comment to Kristen that you refer to, you would have seen this, from Kristen to me: “But you and Suzie like to play the same “Words mean what I feel like saying they mean” game, so carry on. I guess your masters wasn’t in political science.”–OOPS. You see, Alcoholic Steven, it was your besty Kristen that made reference to my degree initially. I was simply returning the favor. But, no need to apologize for your drunken error.
Now, go crawl back into your bottle, Stevie…
Steve C holds an MBA, matt, and works in a high-level of management for a profitable and esteemed company. His BA was in English, which shows in his erudite prose.
The most solid reasons to vote for Obama: Suzie, Pistol Pete, Frank, matt, steve, Henry, and Leon. Need I say more?
Comment by Sandi Saunders — September 12, 2012 @ 7:47 pm
Thank you for the compliment Sandi. However, the MOST important reason
to vote AGAINST Obama is for our children who deserve to grow up in a country like the USA which Obama is dedicated to destroying.
#123 You know, matt, if you’re going to make fun of a guy as an “alcoholic” and a factory worker, you should at least consider doing it to somebody nobody knows anything about. Steve C is known by several people on this blog, including a right winger or two, and people know for a fact he is none of the above. He has also served our country in the military. You just come off sounding bitter and stupid.
Maybe we should start calling you crystal meth matt. Has a nice alliteration to it.
#123 “Since you are so very interested in my life, why don’t YOU man up, and let me know if you ever want to meet personally, so we can work things out. That would be fun, right old man?”
Ah yes, yet another right-wing guy who wants to “meet” to work things out. The list gets longer and longer. What is it with you guys?
Keep digging, matt.
“However, the MOST important reason to vote AGAINST Obama is for our children who deserve to grow up in a country like the USA which Obama is dedicated to destroying.”
This comment evokes that of certain politicians in the 1950s and 60s, who were determined not to let the “American way of life” be ruined. Like Oval Faubus, for example.
Keep flailing, Kristen.
“…and works in a high-level of management for a profitable and esteemed company.”
Ohhh, I’m sure he does, Dano. I’ll just take your word on that one…
thank you, matt.
gramps,
I don’t care what Alcoholic Steven has done in his life. On this blog, I’m merely treating him as he deserves, with no respect. And sorry you are so offended by my offering to work things out. You libs always turn and run when someone asks you to back up your mouth. I don’t care about Alcoholic Steven’s life, he is the one that is so concerned with mine. Just read the posts, gramps. But, I know I know…you don’t care about the facts. You are just a cheerleader of the blog. On that subject, I’ve been meaning to ask-how does the diaper work with the cheerleading outfit?
“I don’t care about Alcoholic Steven’s life, he is the one that is so concerned with mine. . .
. . .and THAT’s why I write 5 posts trashing him for every one he writes trashing me! So there!”
Good grief. The rest of us shudder to think how it would be if matt actually cared.
“…and THAT’s why I write 5 posts trashing him for every one he writes trashing me! So there!”–Dan Casey
Ummm Dano, Alcoholic Steven posted two comments to me. I posted two comments to Alcoholic Steven.
Yourself and gramps felt it necessary to post comments to me attempting to defend Alcoholic Steven, comments which I responded to. Lol. Ohh, those pesky facts. I guess you were in “opinion” mode on this one, eh Dano?
My guess is matt’s “masters” is in Children’s Literature. Most of what he posts looks like it comes from a 12-year-old.
matt,
You’re the one who’s obsessed. Steve C is not. He’s toying with you, and you’re taking his bait. Can’t you see that?
Oh sure, Dan. So, I have a little fun with Alcoholic Steven (after HE initiates the conversation) and all of the sudden, I’M obsessed. Lol. Well, I guess you’re in opinion mode on this one-an opinion that is apparently thought highly enough of by the RTs to drive around town and give away for free…Yikes.
Hey Kristen,
What was you master’s in, again? Oh, wait… Sorry about that.
If this illustrates anything, its that (door)Matt is an insufferable pain in the ass.
#139 (door)matt,
What was you master’s in, again? Oh, wait… Sorry about that. It had to be in one of the following;
Children’s Literature
Creative Writing
Dance
Liberal Studies
Playwriting
Screenwriting and film Studies
Teaching
Certificate of Advanced Studies
(door)matt, since it’s pretty obvious to anyone paying the slightest bit of attention to your screeching that your advanced training wasn’t the least bit writing intensive, I’m assuming your masters was in dance? If so I was wondering if I could commission you to maybe put together an interpretive dance piece that illustrates all the hopes and dreams of the teabaggers going down in flames when President Obama is re-elected.
Let me know, man; this is a wonderful opportunity for you to finally make some ducats with your Hollins degree that doesn’t involve asking “would you like fries with that?” While I freely acknowledge that numbnuts like yourself are delusional half-wits, on the other hand I’m also a patron of the arts and as such will do my part to help you let your creative freak side fly its flag high and proudly.
Rock on you little arts freak animal! Maybe I should just start calling you (codpiece)matt or (twinkle toes)matt…
Remember, Women that are going places start at Hollins!
steve, i think you are hillarious…, by the way, i used two “ll’s” because I she’s your babe. you appear to have sat and stewed for about 4 hours for someone else to pile on your last post on this thread, and no one did! you poor guy! get a life.
Frank, I posted a very short reply at 3:49 from my work blackberry. It was short because I was at “work”. Key word being “work”. I go to that “work” place from 8ish until 6ish give or take a few hours here and there and sometimes extra on weekends. If you were to go back in the archives you’d find few if any posts from me during normal “working” hours because I’m busy doing the “worky” thingie. If they ever have a “Take an idiot to work day” I’ll be sure to let you know so you can tag along and maybe I’ll have some of the housekeepers teach you how to empty wastebaskets.
I posted a longer hit piece from home after “work”. Like, for instance, right now I’m sitting on my porch. This would be the opposite of “work”. That is, unless it’s you flailing away at your hapless and defenseless keyboard trying to make a coherent point. This is always “work” for you, but than again the job description varies according to talent and intellect. Keep pounding away, sunshine, and I’ll keep paying taxes so you can keep your hoveraround charged up.
Can I draw a clearer picture for you, clue hound? Pay attention, you washed up ol’ geezer; I don’t need anyone’s support, encouragement or approval. I am an army of one; you and your genetically defective progeny (door)matt are a two person circle jerk but at least you two simps aren’t playing alone. Now get back to making (door)matt’s pb&j sandwich bag lunch for tomorrow and make sure he has clean socks and skivvies to wear and stop tryin’ to bite the hand that pays your electric bill and keeps you in fresh Depends.
Awww, Alcoholic Steven, I was thinkin’ you would have sobered up before your next post. I was wrong!
It’s unfortunate, Alcoholic Steven, that all of your blathering had to center around a joke that Dan already made several posts ago. If you are going to insist upon keeping your strange obsession with me your priority on this blog, at least come up with your own material. Good grief, Alcoholic Steven. You know better than that. Don’t go gettin’ lazy on us. Otherwise, this blog will no longer have any use for you. Evidence of this lies in your strange “me” update on the Thursday open thread (who does that, by the way?). So far, at the time I’m writing this, there are 12 different comments after your little “update.” Unfortunately, not a single one of those comments has anything to do with your “me” post. No one cares, Alcoholic Steven (sad face). If I considered myself a member of this blog’s illustrious inner circle, Steven, I would feel like…well, I would feel like a douche bag. But that’s just me.
As for your “if I could commission you to maybe put together an interpretive dance piece…” C’mon Alcoholic Steve, you aren’t foolin’ anybody. We all know that paid male dancers getting their freak on over at your place is a common occurrence! Isn’t that how you got those saddle sores and arse boils you always whine about?
(door)matt, it is just you; you are a(douche)bag.
#133 Good golly poor mattie is really worked up now.
Now explain again why it’s always right wingers on this blog threatening to punch people out or yearning to meet in alleys to “settle things”? Is it because you’re just so much “manlier”? Or is it because you’re so much more junior high schoolish?
Heck, I even had one guy named Matt (DD) pretend last year that he had secretly stalked me at the bowling alley, I guess hoping he would scare me or something. Talk about juvenile.
Yep, old man Alcoholic Steve has been hittin’ the bottle pretty hard. He’s upset and angry that no one on the blog responded to his sissy little “life” update on another thread. It’s funny to watch him try to talk himself into staying strong, with all of his “I am an army of one” and “I don’t need anyone’s support” nonsense. You can practically see his lip curl in a frown as he teeters on the edge of pouting or being a big boy. Poor Steven. Don’t you go pullin’ a Bono on your winter excursion, as your “buddies” on this blog would devastated.
Yep, old man Alcoholic Steve has been hittin’ the bottle pretty hard. He’s upset and angry that no one on the blog responded to his sissy little “life” update on another thread. It’s funny to watch him try to talk himself into staying strong, with all of his “I am an army of one” and “I don’t need anyone’s support” nonsense. You can practically see his lip curl in a frown as he teeters on the edge of pouting or being a big boy. Poor Steven. Don’t you go pullin’ a Bono on your winter excursion, as your “buddies” on this blog would devastated
I love you, Matt. Wickedly funny.
wow, steve c, you sure must have a strong heart… but, your intellect continues to lag, I mean, are those names ALL you could come up with?
#19…Strangers to logic, there Saunders ? The pathetic logic that resides in your mind is spend more $$$ than we have…brilliant…lets continue to go into debt…hey moron…do you spend more than you bring home ?
And….day (fill in your number)…and Obama’s leading! Still!
I guess we have nothing to look forward to but increased RW nastiness as we head into the election and the inevitable becomes more…inevitable.
#148 That the kiss of death for mattie — suzie rushing in to do some propping up. You know it’s REALLY over if VRWC shows up, matt.
Right back at you, Suzie. He’s a gift that keeps on giving.
SCORE! You right wing nut jobs have turned this blog into a sewer. You do your party justice!
SCORE! You left-wing nut-jobs have turned this sewer into a blog. You do your dying party justice !
The Navy Seals removed one muslim threat to America…Its up to the voters to remove the other.
This is why we can’t have nice things. Dan Casey’s Blog.
“The Navy Seals removed one muslim threat to America…Its up to the voters to remove the other.
SCORE! You left-wing nut-jobs have turned this sewer into a blog. You do your dying party justice!”
Erudite stuff from RWT2557.
(This demonstrates why, unlike RWT2557, I’m reticent about criticizing simple spelling, grammatical, punctuation, typographical and word-order mistakes people commonly make on this blog, and prefer instead to focus on the content of the comment. I commit these minor transgressions often, and it’s hypocritical to hold people to a standard of perfection that I’ll never meet.)
Got a rise from `ol Danny BOY, there RWT !
#158…Well, Dan…don`t go runnin` for your pacifier just yet…It will be O.K….Didn`t mean to `offend` ya !
The inmates are taking over the asylum here, and their entertainment factor has faded. If there ever were any “conservatives” here capable of rational discussion (there are and have been), they’re getting buried in the effluent coming from matt, steve, and this RWT.
Kristen,
Lol. You are truly the poster child for eloquent, coherent, and rational discussion (plus constant and consistent factual inaccuracies).
Cheers!
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