The 2:50 marathon and other problems Paul Ryan has with truth
Rep. Paul Ryan | AP Photo
Last Wednesday, conservative radio talker Hugh Hewitt posted the transcript of an interview with GOP vice-presidential nominee Paul Ryan. It is heavy on biography. As Ryan talked about his early life and interests, and this exchange occurred:
HEWITT: Are you still running?
RYAN: Yeah, I hurt a disc in my back, so I don’t run marathons anymore. I just run ten miles or yes.
HEWITT: But you did run marathons at some point?
RYAN: Yeah, but I can’t do it anymore, because my back is just not that great.
HEWITT: I’ve just gotta ask, what’s your personal best?
RYAN: Under three, high twos. I had a two hour and fifty-something.
HEWITT: Holy smokes. All right, now you go down to Miami University…
RYAN: I was fast when I was younger, yeah.
The only problem with the story about the sub 3-hour marathon (which is quite a feat) is that it’s not true. Runner’s World magazine caught Ryan in that fib, and he later corrected the record: His time was more than four hours.
The matter has little substance, except to the extent that it bears on character. And it wouldn’t seem to bear much on that, except for what happened later Wednesday.
Ryan took the stage at the Republican National Convention in Tampa and, in a speech that was widely criticized for serial inaccuracies, proceeded accuse the Obama administration of things that were flatly untrue, or riddled with lies by omission. You can find the list, with explanations, on Think Progress:
Among the items it cites:
- Rating agencies blamed America’s downgraded credit on Republicans (Ryan blames Obama);
- Ryan blamed a Wisconsin GM plant closure on Obama (it closed before the president took office);
- Ryan blames the failure of Bowles-Simpson on Obama (Ryan himself worked against Bowles-Simpson);
- Obama robbed $716 billion from Medicare to pay for the Affordable Care Act (no seniors will lose care or coverage, and Ryan’s plan did the same thing).
In that context, the sub-3 hour marathon takes on added significance. And what it seems to mean is that Ryan, not used to his statements being fact-checked regularly during his political career, has a big problem with facts. With the media’s appetite already whetted, he needs to be especially careful moving forward.
That assumes, of course, that Ryan cares about the truth.
A Romney/Ryan pollster already has dismissed the importance of that. “We’re not going to let our campaign be dictated by fact-checkers,” he said in Tampa, on a panel organized by ABC News.
Let’s hope that’s not an indication Ryan doesn’t care about the difference between fact and fiction.
I’d hate to think that these guys believe they have so much money that it just doesn’t matter.
September 2, 2012 - 11:00 AM
Frank mixed me up with all of his talk...
I very much appreciate your commitment to the truth. Can’t wait until you turn that critical eye to the speeches of Obama, Biden and the rest of the DNC!
While we’re on the subject of the truth, I have a great future column idea for you. Why don’t you discuss how in Obama’s autobiography he melded together several girlfriends into a “composite” girlfriend. Seems saying you dated a woman who doesn’t exist is at least as interesting as fibbing on a marathon time.
The online running community is the absolute last bunch you want to mess with.
About this “slip”, he made some lame comment about how he’d “rounded” the number wrong. He says he should have “rounded” to 4 instead of…heck, 2!
I wonder if this facility with numbers is indicative of his business sense. I’d love to explain that “rounding” business to , say…the IRS.
Mitt….”I rounded down to $20 million…in reality I should have rounded up to $100 million. Ooops. My bad.”
Indeed, Daniel-shhn, the GOP is COUNTING on funding the repetition of their lies until the sheep-like populous absorbs it into their intellectual DNA.
It is not new to politics, but Citizens United has given the billionaires wide new latitude to lie at will w/o having to face the facts.
Indeed. Don’t forget his liw about Obama loosening the work requirement on welfare and the GOP claiming Obama was never for the work requirement. Obama was a State Senator in Illinois when the work requirement was being voted on as lead by President Clinton. He was not only for it, he pushed for the Illinois to be one of the first States using it.
Another huge GOP lie is their attacks on “entitlement” programs. They call social security, medicare, and medicaid entitlements. They try to make you believe they are government gifts when in fact they are paid for by American workers each and every payday in medicare, medicaid, and social security payroll taxes. The government used the trust funds for operating expenses to make up for the tax cuts for the wealthy. Now the GOP wants to cut these paid for programs to once again give more tax cuts to the wealthiest Americans. The fact that some working middle class actually believe the GOP is absolutely amazing.
I am a first time reader of your writings. Your article started well but then you added your punch line that was supposed to make me think that Ryan doesn’t care about truth, you turned me off as a new reader. I guess the word “blog” allows one to put in their own thoughts. My mistake for wasting my time. The “truth in campaigning” goes for all parties, both Repub and Dem. I expect the writers of news columns to give me all the facts and not their opinions. I don’t need anyone to help me make up my mind by letting their personal views get in the way. I am capable as I would hope most are but it appears that the news media today are themselves acting like politicians, spewing their own rhetoric and not just the facts, to feed their own followings. If you say it enough to the same people, then it inevitably it becomes fact because its been repeated so many times. And Yes, I feel this way about every columnist who tries to steer me by their own interpretation of the “facts”, whether right or left, ignorant or educated.
hey dano, please tell us when the plant stopped making SUVs, then stopped making Trucks.
also, please remind us what the pres said about “re-tooling plants like Janesville…and when he said those remarks? it was during his campaign, i believe, when he was trolling for votes. after his election, he forgot about those voters he “trolled” during his campaign.
oops, that’s too much for you to think about, isn’t it? ok, just go back to the top, and give us the dates for when the Trucks were discontinued…
Rating agencies blamed America’s downgraded credit on Republicans (Ryan blames Obama);
Actually the Ryan Tea Party plan was the only that would have prevented the credit downgrade. 0bama’s massive deficit increase is indeed the reason for the downgrade.
DAN: Rating agencies blamed America’s downgraded credit on Republicans (Ryan blames Obama)
SUZIE: “Actually the Ryan Tea Party plan was the only that would have prevented the credit downgrade. 0bama’s massive deficit increase is indeed the reason for the downgrade.”
Actually, it’s telling that Suze doesn’t even attempt to dispute the original point at all.
7. Suzie – the dumbest thing I have read today.
@1 Great Post, Katie. No, they aren’t the least bit concerned that most of 0bama’s bio is a pack of lies, from the smallest detail to the largest.
I bet Screwzie could beat Ryan in a marathon–if they run it in intervals!
I thought Ryan was a numbers “Wonk.”
Reality is he either can’t count or he’s a liar. Unless of course he’s both.
Which is entirely possible.
Cold, I think that to be considered a “wonk” by the right (which seems to be political code for nerdy idea-meister) isn’t too difficult.
Dan,
This coming on the heels of your post about whether Clinton said something that is not necessarily true “just because he said it?”
Why not do a full investigation on Obama’s campaign comment where he said the republican party admitted “we will not let the truth get in the way”.
I wait with baited breath to see the results of “that” investigation. Start with that “RW” rag the NY times…
I believe I already hear crickets….
Personally, my best in a marathon is about 15 minutes (thats about all I can stand to watch before I get bored.
Maybe we should investigate Obama’s golf scores.
WOW…is this “BREAKING NEWS”..Sounds like my last fishing trip! BFD!
I heard this ridiculous marathon talk on some of the Sunday shows. It’s not hard to glean what they big DNC talking point is for the week. The silliness of the topic illustrates how they haven’t been able to lay a glove on the nimble Ryan. Democrats are VERY worried.
I personally like Obama’s own words to determine his future. He said if he got his “stimulus”, unemployment would be under 8%.
And further said: “If I don’t have this done in three years, then there’s going to be a one-term proposition.”
For the sake of “integrity” of the office, shouldn’t he step aside and let experienced leaders take charge to get us out of the mess he has created? Surely, Obama is a man of “his” word, right?
Frank, ask the WSJ about Janesville”
http://blogs.wsj.com/drivers-seat/2012/08/30/the-history-of-the-janesville-gm-plant/
“By 2005, it was making hulking SUVs such as the Chevrolet Suburban that Americans were turning their backs on as gas prices rose past $2 a gallon.
In June 2008, with GM’s finances crumbling, then-Chief Executive Rick Wagoner announced Janesville and three other truck plants would close by 2010. A few months later, however, the financial crisis hit. Auto sales plunged and GM, nearly broke, moved up the closing of Janesville and halted production for good on Dec. 23.“
Or, ask the Janesville Gazette”
http://gazettextra.com/photos/galleries/last-day-gm/
“Tuesday, Dec. 23, 2008
A group of General Motors employees poses for a final photo with the last SUV manufactured at the plant. After nearly 90 years, GM has closed the facility and possibly the era of vehicle production in the city.“
“common sense”
Welcome to Dan’s blog. Here is all you need to know. The assertion that Republicans want to put blacks “back in chains” is not challenged, but forgetting a race time from10 years ago means Paul Ryan is a liar.
Please consult me if you get confused, but this blog is pretty easy to figure out.
hey dano, from my little bit of a memory, i believe that the following parties where to blame for the credit downgrade: 1. congress (includes dems and repubs, don’t cha know… 2. The pres. 3. hey, dano, you get to fill in the other guilty parties, here…
just ’cause you have a license to lie (as an “opinion journalist…) doesn’t make you right.
mike O, no investigation is needed. The Romney pollster said, “we will not let this campaign be dictated by fact-checkers.” You must have missed that one. A reasonable interpretation is that they’re not going to hemmed in by the truth.
The president was paraphrasing the pollster, obviously.
#16 So nimble he’s been caught in numerous lies in just a few days. Great performance.
An interesting piece by Paul Krugman about Mr. Ryan’s “Rosie Ruiz” approach to the truth.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/03/opinion/krugman-rosie-ruiz-republicans.html?_r=1&hpw
“The assertion that Republicans want to put blacks “back in chains” is not challenged…”
That’s because Biden wasn’t lying, he was speaking metaphorically about the chains of debt the big banks wanted to bring back via the repeal of Dodd-Frank.
Are you saying that Ryan’s boast that he ran a marathon in 2:50 was a metaphor?
Biden’s tangent was clumsy and he uttered the words to the worst possible crowd. But they weren’t a lie.
Ryan didn’t “forget” his race time. People don’t “forget” marathon times. He lied about it. Entirely different.
“hey dano, from my little bit of a memory, i believe that the following parties where to blame for the credit downgrade: 1. congress (includes dems and repubs, don’t cha know… 2. The pres. 3. hey, dano, you get to fill in the other guilty parties, here…”
Frank has just admitted that Ryan distorted the record when he said Obama was responsible. Thank you, Frank.
hey dano, only someone intoxicated by your strange license-to-lie “opinion journalist” perspective could conclude that. they are all responsible for the down-grade, particularly obama since it was HIS committee, and he’s the big ol’ pres, don’t cha know. before you’re done, Ryan will be responsible for every ill this country has, as well as those you’ll dream up. the people of this country on to folks like you.
by the way, dano, how’s good ol’ GM doin’ these days? how is that heavily U.S. taxpayer-owned, union run, payer of lower pay, benefits, profit sharing, etc. than toyota…doin’ about now? maybe check their stock price, eh? how about that good ol’ lib chariot…what’s it called… the volt? how’s the volt doin’, eh?
maybe you could send some of your license-to-lie stuff up north to all those Cheeseheads who are embracing the conservative message hook, line, and sinker….surely those people up there in Wisconsin need your kind of “help” to get’em back in the fold, don’t cha think?
#20 But we WILL challenge some doofus claiming that OWSers are trashing Elmwood Park.
Nah, in fact what Biden said is true, so long as you take time to understand what he was actually talking about.
hey sandi, do you think that the only vehicles made at GM-Janesville were SUVs? you’re slipping, sandi. you’re a prolific fact-checker…tell me i’m wrong about the Janesville GM plant closing for good in April, 2009, when it stopped making trucks…
You know, if Ryan had run 10 or more marathons, I think he could very well forget his time.
But he only ran one.
In 1988 I did the Chesapeake Bay swim. It’s 4.4 miles, as the crow flies, and it’s in 62-degree water (well, it was that year) and the tide was ripping out so the shipping channel was like a fast-moving river. It was the only year I ever did it. I finished #310 of 320 finishers, in a race that had 468 swimmers. 148 of the entrants did not finish, they had to be rescued because conditions were so bad (and that was not nearly the worst year for conditions). My time was 3:15 and I’ve never forgotten that.
There is evidence that the last Isuzu truck (which GM made under contract) rolled off the assembly line of the Janesville plant in April 2009. By then the plant had 57 workers, down from its peak of 7,000 in 1970 and down from 1,200 the previous December 2008 when for all practical purposes it shut down.
The 57 workers stayed around merely to fulfill the contract with Isuzu.
That doesn’t mean Ryan didn’t lie when he claimed Obama said he would save the plant. It was shut down, except for a piddling amount of contract finish-up work, when the president took office.
Republican strategist admits on ABC Sunday that Republicans spin and distort more than the Democrats do.
http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/matt-dowd-ryan-so-stretched-truth-in-his
My question is: Why would 0bama lie about the reason he didn’t start on his high school basketball team? One would definitely remember that. But his biographer said he lied. I think something like that would be seared in one’s memory more than a marathon time. After all, experiences in adolescence are seared the most strongly in one’s memory.
Notice no leftwinger has dared to explain why 0bama lied.
In 1988 I did the Chesapeake Bay swim.
Comment by Dan Casey — September 3, 2012 @ 12:04 am
That’s a tough swim, even in good conditions.
Another diversion tactic…Eyes on the road… 43 straight months of UNEMPLOYMENT over 8%….45 million on welfare…24 million out of work…Gas prices up 110%….Groceries up 60-70 %…16 TRILLION in DEBT…All under the watch of this so-called leader….ECONOMY IS IN THE TANK !!!!!
“After all, experiences in adolescence are seared the most strongly in one’s memory.”
Only for those in whom the short term memory has already started to go.
I’m looking forward to seeing Ryan busted on numerous lies between now and the election. Every single word he utters is going to be gone over with a microscope…hopefully he’ll wake up and get a little more truthy.
Dan:
“In 1988 I did the Chesapeake Bay swim. It’s 4.4 miles, as the crow flies, and it’s in 62-degree water (well, it was that year) and the tide was ripping out so the shipping channel was like a fast-moving river.”
That is awesome. I’m impressed.
34. Suzie – one’s marathon time is always seared into one’s brain. I bet there is not one marathoner that could not tell you their best time in a heartbeat. As for why you did not start on a high school ball team? There is not a high school athlete out there that doesn’t have a hundred reasons why they did not start and not sure what the real reason was.
Lying Ryan seems a more appropriate nickname for Mitt’s VP candidate.
Two words: Joe Biden.
Put the coffee pot on the stove, momma. This thread is over.
Quoting Tom Friedman – “this is the first election ever where both men are running as “I’m not Mitt Romney”".
Interesting that the GOP has chosen to run under the “are you better off than you were four years ago?” banner. 99.9% of the people would have to honestly say yes. There simply is no question that the economy, the stock market, the banking industry, the auto industry, the wars, the health care, the social problems, the environment, the energy questions, are all better today than four years ago. This is a major gaff on the GOP’s part.
41. Joe Biden is a workingman’s politician. He says it like it is.
I don’t think the leftwingers want to get into a Lying Veep Sweepstakes when they’ve got the guy who had to withdraw from the 1988 election because he plagiarized a speech. Recall also, he got an F in a college course for plagiarism. This guy has lied and stolen all his life.
I can’t WAIT for Ryan to get that question from a leftwing moderator in debate.
the article linked below points out clearly another example of Mr. Ryan’s “liar, liar, pants on fire” ideas.
http://www.cbpp.org/cms/?fa=view&id=3722
So now Suzie is claiming that Biden took a college course in plagiarism and he failed the course? She gets more absurd every day.
44. Suzie – Biden has been vetted for VP; your candidate has not been, however. Looks like something new everyday on his lack of truthfulness.
Suzie – Biden has been vetted for VP
That’s a laugh. The MSM didn’t care what Biden did because he was a Democrat. I mean the lying and stealing involved in multiple plagiarism offense is a serious matter. It denotes a lifetime pattern of dishonesty. A guy making an off-handed comment about some race time is nothing compared that.
48. I assume the GOP vetted him and used everything they could find. Are you telling me they did not do their job? Or perhaps they did not use the made up things hte tea party comes up w
hey dano, i think i’m on your side with ol’ joe, of course he passed his plagerism course! he’s plagerized his whole life….gee wasn’t there that “thingy” when he ran for pres a while back? you remember it. i remember it. we all remember it. but, he’s a lib, so who cares?
sandi, sandi, sandi…do you REALLY get your “facts” from blogs? please tell me that’s not so. i had reached a point to where i thought you “fact” checked fairly well…until now. Blogs, really?! at least, that’s where that link to the WSJ takes ya…
let this sink in, sandi: the Janesville GM plant stopped making SUVs in December, 2008… and stopped making mid-sized trucks in April 2009, 4 months after the one took office.
you FAIL!
I also love…”I have a damaged disc…I only 10 miles or so now”. Suuuure you do.
Paul Ryan has a huge nose. It looks like a double garage for two Wienermobiles.
Dan,
Re: your “fact checkers” comment
Maybe some further “investigative journalism” might be appropriate.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/01/us/politics/fact-checkers-howl-but-both-sides-cling-to-false-ads.html?_r=1
maybe you could do an entire thread “and leave out the salient parts” like you did with Obama’s “you didn’t build that” comment…
Ladies and gentlement. Girl has successfully goaded Contra into using my avatar again. We play people like fiddles here.
Lying Ryan was on the Today Show this morning. We just misunderstood his comments in his speech. He really did not say any of those things but rather was commenting on Obama’s failure to get everything done that he had promised. Have to admit, Ryan is well practiced at his craft of lying. Say something and then immediately lie about saying it and insisting that is everyone else that did not understand him. It just gets deeper and deeper around him.
I wonder if Ryan goes to confession for all the lies he tells? He’ll be saying hail Mary’s till the cows come home.
I wonder if Ryan goes to confession for all the lies he tells? He’ll be saying hail Mary’s till the cows come home
Biden was raised Catholic. Do you confessed his lying stealing plagiarism? Do you think he dares go to Communion with his pro-abortion views?
Frank, Frank, Frank, Frank, Frank, The WSJ link I offered was written by “Neal Boudette, Detroit bureau chief for The Wall Street Journal” and if you had not been so trigger happy, you could have read the same in the Janesville Gazette. I know you right wingers are used to dealing in lies and posting lies and arguing using lies, but I tell the truth. And unlike the majority of you, I offer my sources, as back up. Liars never do that.
You and other right wing ideologues are clinging to a technicality.
April 19, 2009:
“Janesville – Production at the General Motors plant in Janesville is scheduled to end for good this week.
GM spokesman Christopher Lee says operations at the southern Wisconsin plant will cease Thursday.
About 1,200 employees were let go just before Christmas when GM ended SUV production at the plant.
Some 100 workers were retained to finish an order of small- to medium-duty trucks for Isuzu Motors Ltd.
Lee says most of those workers will be laid off Thursday. He says others will be kept on to help guide the plant’s shutdown.”
http://www.jsonline.com/news/wisconsin/43254027.html?ipad=y
For all intents and purposes, the plant was idled in Dec 2008. That is just a fact. That a few workers finished a contract and clean up to close out is totally beside the point and saying it closed in April 2009 to put it on Obama’s watch is essentially a lie.
58. Suzie – this blog is about Lying Ryan. Did you miss the blog 4 years ago on Biden? With Clinton, Obama, and McCain running against him, I’m sure everything was said then that could be said about him. Move on, get with today’s blog. It is about Lying Ryan.
It should be obvious (especially to any runner) that there’s a huge difference in running 26 miles at a pace of 6.3 minutes per mile (2:50) vs. 9.3 minutes/mile (4:10).
Maybe Ryan’s just trying to keep up with Romney in the lying department. Here’s documentation of over 500 of Romney’s lies over the past couple of years:
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/slacktivist/2012/08/29/mitt-romney-tells-533-lies-in-30-weeks-steve-benen-documents-them/
Paul Krugman also has a good column about Ryan’s marathon and other lies:
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/03/opinion/krugman-rosie-ruiz-republicans.html?smid=tw-share
thank you, sandi, i guess you’ll just call this is nother “technicality”, but the Janesville plant currently remains in “idled” status, which is also a fact.
Now, for the larger fact, obama said during his campaign “if elected, he’d work to retool plants like the Janesville plant….”. THAT was the larger issue Ryan was making, which completely escapes lib-morons who parse every possible word coming from the those they pre-judge to be liars. kinda like that big ol’ dem leader in california, john Burton, who directly called Ryan “goebbels” (over this same issue…), for joseph goebbels….you DO know who goebbels is, don’t you, sandi? Ryan’s point was, while obama was in Janesville before the election, trolling for votes, obama said “he’d work to retool plants…like Janesville…”. And then, after his election, he did zero, zilch, nada for Janesville….even though the government bailed out GM and Chrysler during obama’s inaugeral month, and also when obama fired GM’s president. Heck, even now obama could order GM to remake the Janesville plant into making volts,… you know, those failed lib chariots… oops, there’s that word again…the FAILED volt…
Frank, the reason it’s still idled it that GM decided to keep it that way, not the president. He may have hoped plants like Janesville would be back in business but he’s not micromanaging the company.
At the time they closed it, it was their oldest plant in operation, btw. That, more than any other single factor, is probably why they consigned it to the scrap heap. It would cost more to update than any of the others.
hey, dano, i realize that it’s GM’s choice to keep the Janesville plant idled. for all i know, that might be the best decision.
the point is, obama went to Janesville in 2008 as a campaigner for votes, and said what he said…in 2008…. the suv part of the plant was “idled” in December, 2008…obama took office in January, 2009, fired the GM CEO in January, 2009…, then in April, 2009, the Janesville plant got “idled” further (the mid-size trucks…),…and obama has done zero, zilch, nada, for the Janesville voters he pandered to for votes back during his campaign. That’s been Ryan’s issue from the beginning, and he gets called “goebbels” by the head california lib-dem…
Ryan lied
It’s incredible. ‘Ryan Lied” stories all emerged on Sunday in unison. Among carriers of the meme: The LATimes, Washington Post, New York Times, ABC News, Rachel Maddow (Monday) and of course Dan Casey.
No one can deny the 0bama Adminstration sent out this talking point. They haven’t been able to get to Ryan after a month. I guess they’re hoping this will stick. The problem is the idea of a marathon time is just so silly that voters are laughing at the Democrats.
Look for Romney/Ryan to put it out of reach here shortly. Any idea what the next talking point will be, Dan?
Love how old Rants & Raves (w/ lies) will claim that the TP is not an organization with any official spokepersons and that she/he has never attended a TP meeting — and then he/she turns around and proclaims on her/his own authority the actual “Tea Party plan” [September 2, 2012 @ 1:10 pm ].
Talk about continuing lack of logic and creditability. Wants it both ways — or rather what ever way suites his/her immediate agenda.
“It’s incredible. ‘Ryan Lied” stories all emerged on Sunday in unison. Among carriers of the meme: The LATimes, Washington Post, New York Times, ABC News, Rachel Maddow (Monday) and of course Dan Casey.”
This is not incredible. The same news media all reported that it had rained real hard in Louisiana. You know why? Because it did. Duh.
Re: Comment by Dan Casey — September 3, 2012 @ 12:04 am
You know, if Ryan had run 10 or more marathons, I think he could very well forget his time.
But he only ran one.
In 1988 I did the Chesapeake Bay swim. It’s 4.4 miles, as the crow flies, and it’s in 62-degree water (well, it was that year) and the tide was ripping out so the shipping channel was like a fast-moving river. It was the only year I ever did it. I finished #310 of 320 finishers, in a race that had 468 swimmers. 148 of the entrants did not finish, they had to be rescued because conditions were so bad (and that was not nearly the worst year for conditions). My time was 3:15 and I’ve never forgotten that.
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FWIIW, I never was into running, in and of itself. For me it was a useful and required exercise / conditioning tool for other sports — and a regular drill in the USMC.
However, I have known a goodly number of marathons runners and runners of the Massanutten Mountain Trails 100 Mile run. [See http://www.vhtrc.org/mmt/ ] Never knew one who didn’t know their fastest time. Also, knew a few triathlon swimmers/bikers/runners. [http://tinyurl.com/8hhahlv ]. Never knew one who didn’t know their fastest time overall time and their splits.
So, looks a though everyone has a choice — he is a liar or someone with too poor of a memory to be trusted. What other options are there?
As I said before, yet another POTUS election of voting for the lesser of two bad options.
This is not incredible. The same news media all reported that it had rained real hard in Louisiana. You know why? Because it did. Duh.
Dan, the problem is, all the stories that Ryan is a serial liar appeared this past weekend. Are you saying Ryan just started “lying” this weekend?
Where do your talking point instructions come from? New York or Washington? Are they emailed to you
Dan, the problem is, all the stories that Ryan is a serial liar appeared this past weekend. Are you saying Ryan just started “lying” this weekend?
All the stories about Hurriacane Isaac and the damage it caused appeared shortly after the storm hit. Most (but not all) of the stories about Ryan’s problem with the truth appeared shortly after his nationally televised speech, in which he stretched, lied by omission or outright lied at least 5 times. He claimed the sub-3 hour marathon time the same day as the national speech.
Amazing how the news all reports stuff at the same time. When it happens. It’s a conspiracy.
Ryan lying about his only marathon time shows very poor judgment.
#70 Dan, I just noticed that the vast majority of the stories about the shooting at the Batman movie came out within a few days after it happened.