The Post of the Day is 17 questions from ‘dave’
By Dan
Note from Dan: The blogger ‘dave’ posted these rhetorical, are-you-better-off-than-4 years ago questions Saturday morning on another thread. Good stuff!
Today is a good day to pose a few questions to the right wing bloggers (or to anyone else who wishes to answer them).
1. Would you rather we have an economy losing 750,000 jobs per month insted of one gaining 96,000 jobs per month?
2. Would you prefer a Dow Jones Industrial Average of 6.500 over one at 13,300?
3. Would you prefer a bankrupt/out-of- business U.S. auto industry to one that employs more than a million people and is making record profits?
4.Would you prefer a health-care system that makes it impossible for you to buy insurance when you have health issues or preexisting conditions over one that allows you to get that care?
5. Would you prefer that 3 million young americans between the ages of 18 and 26 do without health insurnce and rely on emergemcy rooms for health-care needs at your expense over one that allows them to remain on their parent’s insurnce policies?
6. Would you prefer that 30 million Americans remain without health insurance and rely on emergency room care for their needs at the expense of you and your health insurance over one that requires them to contribute according to their means and get less expensive care through normal channels?
7.Would you prefer that states like California, North Carolina, Florida, Virginia, Ohio, Wisconsin and just about every other state be forced to lay off still more teachers, firefighters, health care workers, transportation employees and police. or raise taxes to compensate them instead of having federal stimulus funds to help them balance budgets during a financial crisis?
8. Would you prefer that Virginia not be allowed to receive any more funds from the federal government than its citizens pay in federal taxes, thereby eliminating billions from Virginia’s budget at your expense?
9. Would you prefer that the banking and financial system had been allowed to crash completely in 2008-09 and suffered the pain that went along with it to start over again, a la 1929?
10. Would you prefer that we still be fighting in Iraq and supporting an army of 150,000 Americans there?
11. Would you prefer that we have no exit strategy in Afghanistan and just have an open- ended committment to keeping 120,000 American soldiers there?
12. Would you have preferred that we simply stop pursuing and eliminating Al Qaeda and let Osama Bin Laden go ahead with his plotting and planning of terrorist attacks?
13.Would you prefer that we eliminate all regulations on banks and the financial industry and make it every man for himself?
14.Would you prefer that we had not reduced our dependence on foreign oil to the lowest level in over 50 years?
15. Would you prefer that we had not increased our natural gas production almost 700% in the last four years?
16. Would you prefer that employment in the coal mining industry had decreased in the last four years instead of increasing?
17. Do you believe we should lower our standards for clean air and clean water to accomodate the oil, chemical, and gas industries?
If you can answer yes to these questions, then I can understand how you might believe we are not better off today than we were in February of 2009 and why you would want to elect people who want to take us back to the policies of 2000-2008.
September 8, 2012 - 11:39 AM
TOTAL LIBERAL LEFT-WING LEFT-NUT B.S.
Yawn. OK, time to do what Girl does best. Slice and dice more leftwing horse manure. Here goes:
1. Would you rather we have an economy losing 750,000 jobs per month insted of one gaining 96,000 jobs per month?
Would you rather be falling at a rate of 32 feet per second after you’ve just jumped off a tall building, or would you rather not be falling anymore because you’ve just slammed into the ground?
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2. Would you prefer a Dow Jones Industrial Average of 6.500 over one at 13,300?
Would you rather have the 14,000 DOW of George W Bush, or one that has not rebounded to near that level ever since the Democrats cratered it?
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3. Would you prefer a bankrupt/out-of- business U.S. auto industry to one that employs more than a million people and is making record profits?
No, we would prefer a company like Honda that has succeeded without bailouts or union payoffs.
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4.Would you prefer a health-care system that makes it impossible for you to buy insurance when you have health issues or preexisting conditions over one that allows you to get that care?
No, we don’t want our insurance rates to go through the roof by essentially handing out welfare payments.
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5. Would you prefer that 3 million young americans between the ages of 18 and 26 do without health insurnce and rely on emergemcy rooms for health-care needs at your expense over one that allows them to remain on their parent’s insurnce policies?
We will pay for the freeloaders anyway. With 0bamacare, we’ll pay even more.
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6. Would you prefer that 30 million Americans remain without health insurance and rely on emergency room care for their needs at the expense of you and your health insurance over one that requires them to contribute according to their means and get less expensive care through normal channels?
30 million is a like The figure is 6 million, and we will pay for them either way; more through 0bamacare.
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7.Would you prefer that states like California, North Carolina, Florida, Virginia, Ohio, Wisconsin and just about every other state be forced to lay off still more teachers, firefighters, health care workers, transportation employees and police. or raise taxes to compensate them instead of having federal stimulus funds to help them balance budgets during a financial crisis?
I would lay off even more teachers. Roanoke City laid off teachers, and the libs are claiming their test scores and graduation rates have gone up dramatically.
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8. Would you prefer that Virginia not be allowed to receive any more funds from the federal government than its citizens pay in federal taxes, thereby eliminating billions from Virginia’s budget at your expense?
No, because national defense is actually one of the few jobs the federal government is supposed to do.
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9. Would you prefer that the banking and financial system had been allowed to crash completely in 2008-09 and suffered the pain that went along with it to start over again, a la 1929?
Have you stopped beating your wife? The bailouts were a waste of money because the banking system was never going to collapse.
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10. Would you prefer that we still be fighting in Iraq and supporting an army of 150,000 Americans there?
Nonsensical question. Bush ended and won that war.
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11. Would you prefer that we have no exit strategy in Afghanistan and just have an open- ended committment to keeping 120,000 American soldiers there?
No, I would have preferred 0bama had had any strategy in Afghanistan.
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12. Would you have preferred that we simply stop pursuing and eliminating Al Qaeda and let Osama Bin Laden go ahead with his plotting and planning of terrorist attacks?
Stupid question. Bush’s forces never stopped pursuing Al-Queda and eventually killed Bin Laden.
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13.Would you prefer that we eliminate all regulations on banks and the financial industry and make it every man for himself?
Yes. Get the government the hell out and stop forcing banks to make bad loads to unqualified borrowers which caused this entire recession.
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14.Would you prefer that we had not reduced our dependence on foreign oil to the lowest level in over 50 years?
When did we do that? 0bama has essentially banned drilling on public lands, and gas is $3.60 a gallon. Duh.
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16. Would you prefer that employment in the coal mining industry had decreased in the last four years instead of increasing?
Utter nonsense. 3500 coal miners have been laid off in the last four months alone.
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17. Do you believe we should lower our standards for clean air and clean water to accomodate the oil, chemical, and gas industries?
Yes. The over-regulation is suffocating. Were people dying from dirty air and water in 2008? Hell, no.
Great post Dave!
since bammy is such a liar, I will go with anyone else..I dont believe a word that creep spews, his speech was full of lies..rather have ROMNEY/RYAN, you will too once he wins and you see what a liar marxist bammy and his moocher wife are
pammala, vote for Virgil Goode!
#2 Suzie, great job! You always win, and you make it look so easy!
I just got this in an email from a friend.
“A colleague today overheard someone discussing the DNC vote yesterday when they re-inserted “God” into the party platform.
His comment was… “That is how they vote in North Korea.”" Exactly!
#2 Yes, suzie you did what you do best. Fail.
it sure will be nice when the election is over so we can get our panties in a wad over God & guns like the good ol days
#6 Ain’t that sweet? VRWC back again to fawn over and prop up suzie.
You know, VRWC, you could at least be honest and nail suzie where she lied or twisted the truth.
Nah, I guess not.
“it sure will be nice when the election is over so we can get our panties in a wad over God & guns like the good ol days”
With some of the stuff John Wilburn’s been posting recently, it seems like he’s been chewing a lot of cordite or something. . .
#9 gdad, Suzie is able to reply quickly versus multiple attackers and there is never anything that you/they can dispute. That you and others attack her personally says it all – you can’t debate her ideas. Suzie wins every discussion, ALL DAY – EVERYDAY!
Your post #9 is sadly typical. You couldn’t dispute anything Suzie wrote. So you posted a comment to me for supporting Suzie and you told Suzie (your post #7) that her post was a “fail.” “Fail?” That’s…ah…unique…I mean, not for a 13 year old, but for a grown…anything.
Dan, your questions are all front-loaded and hogwash…unless of course you begin to blame the Obama Admin. Your blaming the previous QB or the one about to be drafted for the current man under-center who has NOT gotten the job done. You guys can blog, shrill (which is the new term for your LW’ers) and keep your blinders on…it will not work. We, the People are tired. Also, you question #7…my oh my…the teachers’ unions voted in the vast majority for Barack in ’08…guess what? Talk to some of them (if they are still employed)…HUGE letdown. Just look at our area. Teachers laid off, school budgets in shambles…the list goes on and on.
I still think you post your opinions to drive responses…that is good job security. Keep the post numbers up. However you are hard to take serious. You all need to put your fingers on the pulse of this nation and understand that the last 3 years have been detrimental to the little guy like me.
Let’s roll Mitt/Paul….didn’t vote last time but I will be the first in line this time.
most ill-informed @ 2 posted, “No, we would prefer a company like Honda that has succeeded without bailouts or union payoffs.”
Reeeeealllly? Like Honda? How about like Nissan or Toyota, Subaru? Here are their US $$ subsidies…don’t you get tired of being wrong because you are too lazy to fact check yourself?
Subsidies by the numbers:
Honda, Marysville, Ohio, 1980, $27 million*
Nissan, Smyrna, Tenn., 1980, $233 million**
Toyota, Georgetown, Ky., 1985, $147 million
Honda, Anna, Ohio, 1985, $27 million*
Subaru, Lafayette, Ind., 1986, $94 million
Honda, East Liberty, Ohio, 1987, $27 million*
BMW, Spartanburg, S.C., 1992, $150 million
Mercedes-Benz, Vance, Ala., 1993, $258 million
Toyota, Princeton, Ind., 1995, $30 million
Nissan, Decherd, Tenn., 1995, $200 million**
Toyota, Buffalo, W.Va., 1996, more than $15 million
Honda, Lincoln, Ala., 1999, $248 million
Nissan, Canton, Miss., 2000, $295 million
Toyota, Huntsville, Ala., 2001, $30 million
Hyundai, Montgomery, Ala., 2002, $252 million
Toyota, San Antonio, Texas, 2003, $133 million
Kia, West Point, Ga., 2006, $400 million
Honda, Greensburg, Ind., 2006, $141 million
Toyota, Blue Springs, Miss., 2007, $300 million
Volkswagen, Chattanooga, Tenn., 2008, $577 million
Total: more than $3.58 billion through 2008 – imagine how much more when they compute through 2012? Of course you would complain about American tax dollars going to American auto manufacturers…Boy, VRWC, you are gullible…
* total of direct subsidies to all Honda facilities in Ohio
** includes about $200 million for expansions of Smyrna and Decherd plants
List does not include joint ventures with U.S. companies
Here’s the link for the subsidy numbers
http://www.reliableplant.com/Read/14907/foreign-owned-auto-plants-netted-$36b-in-subsidies
most ill-informed @ 2 posted, “No, we don’t want our insurance rates to go through the roof by essentially handing out welfare payments.”
No matter how many times you repeat this lie it will NEVER be the truth…
According to the Congressional Budget Office [pdf] :
“The CBO now estimates that the altered [ACA] bill will leave 3 million fewer people insured than before; that the decreased coverage will save the federal government $84 billion by 2022; and that repealing the ACA—which the House has voted to do in whole or in part time—would increase the deficit by $109 billion.”
“With about 6 million fewer people being covered by Medicaid but only about 3 million more people receiving subsidies through the exchanges and about 3 million more people being uninsured, and because the average savings for each person who becomes uninsured are greater than the average additional costs for each person who receives exchange subsidies, the projected decrease in total federal spending on Medicaid is larger than the anticipated increase in total exchange subsidies.”
So again wrong and without a single shred of evidence you spout off…way to champion a loser VRWC…
most ill-informed @2 posted, “I would lay off even more teachers. Roanoke City laid off teachers, and the libs are claiming their test scores and graduation rates have gone up dramatically.”
Said the poster who has not one single child in any school system, quite hypocritical, no? And so wrong – and again not one iota of proof for your statement. VRWC – the greatest cheerleader for the most misinformation…
The White House today released a new report that finds that the loss of teachers and other education staff is forcing communities into difficult choices that harm our children’s education and future, including increasing class sizes and shortening school years and days. The report shows that more than 300,000 local education jobs have been lost since the end of the recession…
“Analyses from independent academic experts confirm what we know from common-sense: that laying off teachers, increasing class sizes, eliminating critical programs, shortening the school week or shortening the school year all mean that our students receive less attention and fewer chances to achieve in their education.”
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2012/08/18/new-report-highlights-impacts-teacher-layoffs-need-invest-education
most ill-informed @ 2 posted, “Yes. Get the government the hell out and stop forcing banks to make bad loads to unqualified borrowers which caused this entire recession.”
People did not “qualify” themselves, greedy bankers lent money to “unqualified” persons…then bundled and sold those bad loans, bundled, to pension systems and other financial institutions
Here is the mission of the “The Bureau of Consumer Financial Protection (CFPB).
“[It] iis an independent bureau within the Federal Reserve System that empowers consumers with the information they need to make financial decisions in the best interests of them and their families. The CFPB was created under the Dodd-Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act (Dodd-Frank Act).
The purpose of the CFPB is to PROMOTE FAIRNESS AND TRANSPARENCY FOR MORTGAGES, CREDIT CARDS, and other consumer financial products and services. The CFPB will set and enforce clear, consistent rules that allow banks and other consumer financial services providers to compete on a level playing field and that let consumers see clearly the costs and features of products and services. ” [my caps for the dimwitted]
https://www.federalregister.gov/agencies/consumer-financial-protection-bureau
Wow, isn’t it so frightening to have clear concise language in paperwork that indebted consumers for 30+ years…how dare the government look out for the consumer! And by the way, there is no indication that the new rules have negatively impacted banks.
VRWC – still glad you backed this loser?
VRWC? We all reply at the exact same speed. Whenever Dan approves comments. It’s easy to respond “versus”‘ lots of posters when you have two hours to prep. Ridiculous.
Would you want someone who hides the truth on his taxes? Would you want a vice president who tells lies after lies. Would you want someone who says he believes in America but hides his money in foreign banks?
most ill-informed @2 posted, “The bailouts were a waste of money because the banking system was never going to collapse.”
The Senate passed the $700 billion bank bailout bill [TARP] on October 3 2008. Remind me again who was president on that date…GW Bush you say….right the republican Geo W. Bush.
When republicans initially blocked TARP the Dow plummeted 770 points in one day. Do you think all these financial Wall Street “wizards” weren’t afraid of bank failures? They were.
Who do you think would pay when banks failed. The FDIC – federal law requires that the FDIC makes insured funds available as soon as possible and finds another bank that is willing to take over, or buy the rights to the failing bank. This means all existing customers immediately become customers of the new bank, and business continues as usual and customers do not lose their money.
Now of course you know much better than those who work in finance, so I suggest you put your money in a bank not covered by the FDIC. I imagine you would squeal the loudest that the government didn’t “bail” you out if your bank failed.
And so you can learn a thing or two [seemingly impossible]
“Was the taxpayer really out $700 billion? No, since Congress only authorized $350 billion to be lent out in 2008. The other $350 billion was saved for the new President when he took office in 2009. Obama never used the TARP funds to further bail out banks.” http://useconomy.about.com/od/criticalssues/a/govt_bailout.htm
Still feeling the “love” VRWC?
@2 most ill-informed posted “Nonsensical question. Bush ended and won that war.”
Let’s see, who was President on 18 December 2011 when the last combat troops left Iraq? Oh yeah, President Obama…who didn’t land on an aircraft carrier [with a codpiece insert] declaring “mission accomplished”…President Obama simply ended the war.
So VRWC, you too think Bush ended the Iraq War…two brilliant minds.
While everyone gleefully trades partisan barbs, Rome continues to burn. Without laying blame on either party (though both are to blame), everyone is arguing about symptoms without looking for a cause it’s like using band-aid and an aspirin to treat a knife wound that hit an artery.
This county’s economy started to slide with NAFTA. When we shifted from an economy driven by manufacturing to an economy based on banking, we started down a slope toward a cliff. Until trade becomes fair and we can compete with other countries, we are doing nothing but treading water.
don, we’ve already got a President who lies. We already had several presidents who lies. We already had a vice-president who lied. If we are going to elect a politician, odds are good we are going to get a liar. What’s your point?
#11 “…and there is never anything that you/they can dispute.”
VRWC, this statement alone demonstrates your dishonesty when it comes to suzie. We/I routinely expose suzie’s lies and/or distortions.
Why would I post the way I did in #7? Well, because, as you should know, there’s no sense in wasting time “debating” suzie because she doesn’t debate. Even when you expose something she posts as a lie or a distortion she just dismisses your reply, calls you a moron or simply quits posting on it. She does this regularly, and you know it.
I mean, VRWC, I could spend time destroying crap like this (and this is just one example from her “answer”), but, really, why waste that much time:
“16. Would you prefer that employment in the coal mining industry had decreased in the last four years instead of increasing?
Utter nonsense. 3500 coal miners have been laid off in the last four months alone.”
Dave said coal mining employment has increased in the past four YEARS — NOT MONTHS — and it indisputably has. Dave is right. According to the National Mining Assoc. So tell us honestly, VWRC, do you really consider it adult and clever when suzie doesn’t even address what was said and then declares “victory”?
As for using “Fail” being a 13-year-old post? Well, thanks for making my point about YOUR own suzie posts for me. When was the last time you called suzie a 13-year-old for her posts that end LOL LOL LOL? Or when she links to something that doesn’t even say what she declared it said? Heck, when I disagree with Dan, Kristen, Sandi and so on, I tell them.
Shrillary, VRWC goes in and out of phases where he dotes on suzie. Inexplicable.
#22 And won’t it be great to make banking and gambling even more lucrative, Chuck? That’ll really end that trend, won’t it?
When republicans initially blocked TARP the Dow plummeted 770 points in one day.
The libs said the banks would fail within days if they didn’t get that TARP money. Instead, it was weeks or months before they got it. If the Chicken Littles had been right, the banks would have failed before they got that bailout.
VRWC,
Thanks for the kind words. It does seem like they always go personal, doesn’t it? It’s a shame.
To sum up the post @2
Facts, schmachts, whatever…
#6 Ain’t that sweet? VRWC back again to fawn over and prop up suzie.
Notice Gdad has nothing to say about Bill Perdue propping up Dave, or Cold and Liberal Ron doing it in the other thread, but boy he sure jumps on folks comment on Dave’s foolishness getting debunked.
I can’t believe some of these comments. Those of you on the right need to check your facts!! There are sources out there, politifact.com is one. Many of Romney’s statesments and stories got “pants on fire” and false because they are untrue. Please educate yourself.
Great Post Dave.
Suzie, your head is spinning again.
Carolyn,
To RWers, “fact” is a liberal construct, and a “set of facts” is a liberal conspiracy to destroy all the is great about America.
“Please educate yourself.”
The whole idea is to dumb them down, didn’t you get the memo?
There are sources out there, politifact.com is one. Many of Romney’s statesments and stories got “pants on fire” and false because they are untrue. Please educate yourself.
Comment by Carolyn — September 8, 2012 @ 7:47 pm
LOL…politifact has already been shot out of the saddle as a fact source; now just basic spin support for liberal lypocrisy.
#30 Thing is, you didn’t debunk dave. So of course I jumped on it.
BTW, in my example of how suzie didn’t actually address the coal comment by dave, I forgot to mention that the troll grrl also didn’t bother to tell us that the main reason coal jobs have dropped recently is cheap natural gas. So suzie hates that people are getting a cheaper energy source than coal.
“What’s your point?”
Chuck thinks it’s okay to lie so long as Romney gets elected. After all, everybody does it.
@22, I agree completely.
Reeeeealllly? Like Honda? How about like Nissan or Toyota, Subaru? Here are their US $$ subsidies…don’t you get tired of being wrong because you are too lazy to fact check yourself?
Subsidies by the numbers:
Honda, Marysville, Ohio, 1980, $27 million*
Nissan, Smyrna, Tenn., 1980, $233 million**
Toyota, Georgetown, Ky., 1985, $147 million
Honda, Anna, Ohio, 1985, $27 million*
Subaru, Lafayette, Ind., 1986, $94 million
Honda, East Liberty, Ohio, 1987, $27 million*
BMW, Spartanburg, S.C., 1992, $150 million
Mercedes-Benz, Vance, Ala., 1993, $258 million
Toyota, Princeton, Ind., 1995, $30 million
Nissan, Decherd, Tenn., 1995, $200 million**
Toyota, Buffalo, W.Va., 1996, more than $15 million
Honda, Lincoln, Ala., 1999, $248 million
Nissan, Canton, Miss., 2000, $295 million
Toyota, Huntsville, Ala., 2001, $30 million
Hyundai, Montgomery, Ala., 2002, $252 million
Toyota, San Antonio, Texas, 2003, $133 million
Kia, West Point, Ga., 2006, $400 million
Honda, Greensburg, Ind., 2006, $141 million
Toyota, Blue Springs, Miss., 2007, $300 million
Volkswagen, Chattanooga, Tenn., 2008, $577 million
Shrillary,
Could we see your source for these numbers? I assume it’s from a reputable unbiased source? Odd that you didn’t link it. Also, are these amounts checks cut by the government and given to these car companies? Or are they tax breaks which, of course, aren’t subsidies at all?
There are sources out there, politifact.com is one
“politifact’
LOL. There’s your problem, hon.
“LOL. There’s your problem, hon.”
We’ll need a link for that.
Suzie…I like your style (@#39). Lets keep these interesting individuals on point.
I have read the the blog entries…I do not know where to start with all of the baseless, partisan and incorrect LW’er claims. Wow, you all are drinking some serious Obama kool-aid. He owes you all a lot! That being said, he owes us a lot. However, we all know that he can sing, give a good speech…and that is about it. No substance. And regarding Joe? Hell, I met him on an overseas trip…dense takes on a new meaning.
Romney/Ryan, please deliver us from this depressed economy where gas is through the roof, thus food and electric rates are the high due to the gas, our deficit is off the charts and not many of us are hopeful.
We WILL vote this go-round. Thank GOD (sorry dems for inserting God’s name here) that so many of us ‘average’ citizens feel this way.
suz has a problem with facts.
Go figure.
Dan:
“With some of the stuff John Wilburn’s been posting recently, it seems like he’s been chewing a lot of cordite or something. . .”
Nah, I know my broader political opinions aren’t really appreciated here, so I rarely take interest in those peeing contests. The gun threads are more fun for me, hence why I don’t post as often these days. That, and I have been extremely busy. Geez, I have a class in less than nine hours and I’m playing now instead of working on that.
As usual Suzie conveniently ignores the link which Shrillary so competently provided immediately after her post about the auto industry subsidies.
When I wrote those 17 questions, I was fully prepared to defend the facts in trhem against the hack job fom Suzie that I knew would be coming. . As it turned out, I didn’t have to because Shrillary did such a beautiful and efficient job of debunking her BS point by point. Thank you Shrillary
for the calm and factual manner in which you disposee of the trash. Talk about slicing and dicing! If Suzie thinks that was slicing and dicing I’d sure hate to have to eat a salad or dish she prepared that called for slicing and or dicing. I am sure it would turn into an inedible gooey mass.
As usual Suzie conveniently ignores the link which Shrillary so competently provided immediately after her post about the auto industry subsidies.
Yes, I now see the link in the following post. And it looks like I was right. These so-called “taxpayer subsidies” WERE tax breaks which means they weren’t subsidies at all. When these companies move in, it’s found money for the government. All they’re doing here is saying “OK, we aren’t going to tax you as much as we were going to.”
Got it Dave and Shrillary? The government did NOT cut Toyota or Honda checks.
It’s like if I went to J C Penney and bought a sweater that was marked $30 off. Dave and Shrillary would say ” J C Penney paid you $30″
Re: Comment by dave — September 9, 2012 @ 12:30 am
I disagree.
It would be whole vegetables or whatever because she/he wlould have completely missed.
Great job, Suzie….It really is easy to debunk BS and lies, is it not ?Truth always wins…desparation breeds mental incompetence…the `lefts` pathetic lies prove that !
Only think our SuzieQ “slices and dices” is the Treet.
#44 “As usual Suzie conveniently ignores the link which Shrillary so competently provided…”
As I patiently explained to VRWC, this is part of the typical suzie MO when she’s being crushed by facts.
most ill-informed – “reading is fundamental”. If you want to know the citation for Honda et al, go back and look @ #14
geez, even given the citation, most ill-informed can’t find the FACTS in front of its nose…
most ill-informed: Please note when subsidies/credits are given to corporations, they are TAX DOLLARS – no matter what you wish to label them. Taxpayers are ‘subsidizing” corporations like the above listed – Big Oil gets subsidized by tax dollars, coal get subsidized by tax dollars…even Romney got subsidized by taxpayers’ money.
It doesn’t matter what YOU wish to call it – it is the American taxpayer giving money to each of those automakers, and all the rest…why aren’t you outraged – yes outraged! – that these industries are on the “teat of the federal government”? Nahhh, you will complain and catch your hair on fire if tax money is used to help the needy but subsidizing multinational corporations with billions, you shrug and say, no big deal …hypocrisy, no?
On the Romney sticking it to the American taxpayer:
“the FDIC documents on the Bain deal – which were heavily redacted by the firm prior to release – show that as a wealthy businessman, Romney was willing to go to extremes to secure a federal bailout to serve his own interests.
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“The FDIC agreed to accept nearly $5 million in cash to retire $15 million in Bain’s debt – an immediate government bailout of $10 million. All told, the FDIC estimated it would recoup just $14 million of the $30 million that Romney’s firm owed the government.”
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-federal-bailout-that-saved-mitt-romney-20120829#ixzz25zcqqN4n
Shrilliary,
Suze believes only the little people should pay taxes. She believes corporations like Walmart or McDonalds should not, because they employ people (and those people pay taxes).
People with her mindset have been winning this battle for the past 50 years. What’s happened during that timeframe?
Federal income tax rates have declined drastically, moreso for the wealthy than the poor and the middle class.
Meanwhile, payroll tax rates (Social Security) have increased dramatically. These are paid ONLY on lower and middle incomes.
As federal expenditures have exceeded revenues, the government has borrowed the money from the Social Security trust fund, funded wholly by lower and middle incomes.
In essence, the rich have persuaded the government to shift the burden of funding the government from the rich to the poor. Worse, they’ve balanced the budgets on the backs of retirement funds for the poor and the middle class.
And now the rich are inaccurately claiming that trust fund is insolvent, and that it’s impossible to pay it back, because poor and middle-earners can’t afford to and the rich don’t want to. So people should get used to the idea they will get little if anything out of SS. Or maybe put it on Wall Street, where the rich will be able to skim off some more.
It’s a shameless grab-the-money game, and it’s been going on for 50 years, and it’s accelerated in the past 30.
http://blogs.reuters.com/david-cay-johnston/2012/05/04/social-security-is-not-going-broke/
#11 Well, VRWC, if your true goal with your post was to spark more people to shred suzie’s “answer,” you succeeded gloriously. And if that was indeed your goal, congrats.
Why would anyone vote for a guy – Romney – who claims he will raise their taxes so he and his millionaire “friends” can get another tax cut? Faux News caters to the low information voter who will NEVER fact check their propaganda, on the contrary they swallow it in large gulps.
And to Dan’s point:
“Our plutocracy now lives like the British in colonial India: in the place and ruling it, but not of it. If one can afford private security, public safety is of no concern; if one owns a Gulfstream jet, crumbling bridges cause less apprehension—and viable public transportation doesn’t even show up on the radar screen. With private doctors on call and a chartered plane to get to the Mayo Clinic, why worry about Medicare?”
[...]
“In 1950, payroll and other federal retirement contributions constituted 10.9 percent of all federal revenues. By 2007, the last “normal” economic year before federal revenues began falling, they made up 33.9 percent. By contrast, corporate income taxes were 26.4 percent of federal revenues in 1950. By 2007 they had fallen to 14.4 percent. So who has skin in the game?”
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/revolt-of-the-rich/
#53 gdad, Suzie’s post #45 was excellent and nothing else needed to be said. Poor Shrillary is Suzie’s “straight man” du jour, with her inane, rambling posts. Tomorrow, you or Sandi or someone else will be Suzie’s straight man.
Suzie is undefeated. The Washington Generals were more competitive with the Globetrotters than the left on this blog is with Suzie.
#55 “Suzie is undefeated.”
As if we needed any more evidence of VRWC’s dishonesty when it comes to troll girl.
I see that you’ve also taken up suzie’s habit of ignoring posts you have no answer for.
ahhhhh yes, another ridiculous post by VRWC…what a loser. And yes, Romney will be “undefeated” in November….hahahahahah
Yawn. OK, time to do what Girl does best. Slice and dice more leftwing horse manure. Here goes:
Susie You go GIRL and right on!
Was busy with parent this weekend…
1 CD rates under around 1% depending on your time frame.
2 Money markets ALMOST failed…(money markets)
3 10 YEAR Treasury bill..1.61% TEN FREAKIN YEARS AN ONLY EARN 1.6%
4 QUANTITATIVE EASING 3…QE3…
5 787 BILLION stimulus…8.1 PER CENT UNEMPLOYMENT
6 LIBOR…around 1%
7 Average GOV’T EMPLOYEE make around $20K more (benefits included) than private sector.
8 23 million people out of work
9 65% LABOR PARTICIPATION RATE.(to my libs..how MANY PEOPLE are in the job/producers market
10 89 million people NOT participating in labor market..(330 MILLION population not counting illegals!
11.368k people left the labor market..ie 1 new job 4 quit (NEW JOBS 96k)
Darn Suzie YOU are right on…only the truth.
Suzie I am glad you stand up for your thoughts and beliefs.
Since I have been on this blog..(a challenge to RT and WAPO editors..will not publish MY editorials)
Dan had the guts to publish my original email.
The 17 points is from Dave…He worked on Jim Webb’s campaign (he was a successful Senator) and if not mistaken WORKED on JOHN EDWARD’s (NC..not Roanoke)
Suzie..the negative comments on your comments sounds “LIKE a War on Women”
“words just words” Democrat Barrack Hussein Obama..
You go girl!
We got your back…they have the print and tv but the TEA PARTY HAD NEITHER.
We are a silent majority but carry a big stick…Trust me.
The best thing to happen for us is BUBBA threw Barry under the bus!..BHO was clueless..check the look on BHO face AFTER that speech…PO’D!
Senator Jim Webb was not successful US Senator..(that was a joke in last blog)
Not sure what he did for the Commonwealth of Virginia.
I do know Webb and Warner did designate Ft Marcy in Hampton Roads as a national landmark!
The signed OBAMACARE but NEVER read the bill. Democrat Nancy Pelosi told us “SIGN THE 2700 page bill AND you will KNOW what is IN IT”.
(i think these guys got wimpy when the heard that)
Steve Nelson: more unhinged as the day grows long. . .
“Since I have been on this blog..(a challenge to RT and WAPO editors..will not publish MY editorials”
I cannot IMAGINE why, if the quality of your offerings are at all commensurate with those with which you bless this blog.
POLL: O 49% R 45%…
FLASHBACK: CARTER +4 OVER REAGAN IN SEPT 1980 [+8 IN OCT]…
FLASHBACK: DUKAKIS +17 OVER BUSH AFTER DNC 1988…
Dan tell me where.
You represent the news media in Roanoke Virginia.
I give your facts and all you have is snide comments.
Tell me where I am unhinged.
I gave you 15 points..or so …Suzie gave you another 15 or so.
Tell me and Suzie we are “unhinged”.
Like I have said many times I would LOVE a Roanoke Times sponsored forum.
I want Suzie on my side (jimmy said lusting was ok..LOL but a comment from a poster) and anyone YOU want to bring to the table.
We are not intimidated by insults, innuendos and snide juvenile comments.
Suzie PRESENTED all of fact effectively and accurately .
I presented my FACT (snacts as you portrayed it) accurately.
We both have given you the Roanoke Times employee our opinion and we get insults and ignorant responses.
WOW riveting responses on you part!
7.Would you prefer that states like California, North Carolina, Florida, Virginia, Ohio, Wisconsin and just about every other state be forced to lay off still more teachers, firefighters, health care workers, transportation employees and police. or raise taxes to compensate them instead of having federal stimulus funds to help them balance budgets during a financial crisis?
I would lay off even more teachers. Roanoke City laid off teachers, and the libs are claiming their test scores and graduation rates have gone up dramatically.
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Suzie I know these guys.. Dave worked on Democrat Jim Webb’s campaign and I think Democrat Senator John Edwards (NC who left his wife for a bimbo BUT ran for PRESIDENT)
Dan AS we all know works for the Roanoke Times.(his editorial board will not print my editorials..goes back to Tommy Denton back in the 90′s)
They (liberals are angry people and use poor people to exploit their anger)
I am truly disgusted about crude comments you receive and majority of your comments are facts.
This is the liberal downfall and they prey on the poor to support their lack of self esteem.
Got your back GIRLFRIEND…(to my lib friends I do not know Suzie..but a cheap eharmony date site).
#59 Ft. Marcy? Umm, maybe Fort Monroe? There WAS a Fort Marcy during the Civil War near D.C.
Algore promised a lockbox….was he lying to the americans.Meanwhile, payroll tax rates (Social Security) have increased dramatically. These are paid ONLY on lower and middle incomes.
As federal expenditures have exceeded revenues, the government has borrowed the money from the Social Security trust fund, funded wholly by lower and middle incomes.
In essence, the rich have persuaded the government to shift the burden of funding the government from the rich to the poor. Worse, they’ve balanced the budgets on the backs of retirement funds for the poor and the middle class.
Yawn. OK, time to do what Girl does best. Slice and dice more leftwing horse manure. Here goes:
Ok girlfriend….Love your thinking and slice and dice!
Watch out The DEMOCRATS “MAY” declare “WAR” on you….remember you are a woman who needs the GOVINMENT…(I will leave it at this..trying to be PC)
Love the slice and dicing….no racism,no right winger, no necon bigoted rascist comment…
JUST FACTS! I can not refute any of your facts…exciting (lol)
Just remember Dan works for the Roanoke Times and DAVE worked on Senator JIM Webbs’s campaign and I think he WORKED for US SENATOR John Edwards campaign (the BRECK GIRL..who left his wife for the whatever her name is ..)
Suzie you hit a nerve just like the Tea Party…a SILENT MAJORITY with a big stick!
Unhinged? Were I come from we call it “Getting a snootful.”
stevie gonna feel real bad in the morning.
Steve Nelson
No, I am not the dave “mudcat” saunders who is a political operative and organizer who worked on the Webb and Edwards campaigns and is currently helping put on a strong challenge to Eric ( mr. Slick) Cantor. I have volunteered in plenty of campaigns over the years and still do but I’ve never been anybody’s spokesman except my own. As usual you assume facts not in evidence and jump to shoddy and unsubstantiated conclusions. I like a good drink too but a little less of the firewater might improve your outlook and make your posts more coherent.
dave, it appears as though you put a lot of effort into the list. good for you.
one thing you forgot…deals with public-sector unions. I think we are much better of with the public-sector unions being exposed for what they are…which is a money-laundering scheme for libs. You know the drill…the dems (good ol’ jfk… against the wishes of fdr…) give public-sector unions the right to organize public-sector employees (from “what”, exactly?)….the unions take dues from public-sector unions, give said money to lib candidates… elected libs authorize outrageous pay and benefits to gov’mint employees, who pay union dues…you know the drill…oh yeah, we forgot about the tax-payers, who get SCREWED!
Now, those same unions are busting budgets all over the country, and finally, due to the political courage of Cheeseheads, public-sector unions will soon go into their death throws…none too soon, for me.
TOTAL LIBERAL LEFT-WING LEFT-NUT B.S.
Comment by colorado max — September 8, 2012 @ 12:27 pm
Yawn. OK, time to do what Girl does best. Slice and dice more leftwing horse manure. Here goes:
1. Would you rather we have an economy losing 750,000 jobs per month insted of one gaining 96,000 jobs per month?
Would you rather be falling at a rate of 32 feet per second after you’ve just jumped off a tall building, or would you rather not be falling anymore because you’ve just slammed into the ground?
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2. Would you prefer a Dow Jones Industrial Average of 6.500 over one at 13,300?
Would you rather have the 14,000 DOW of George W Bush, or one that has not rebounded to near that level ever since the Democrats cratered it?
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3. Would you prefer a bankrupt/out-of- business U.S. auto industry to one that employs more than a million people and is making record profits?
No, we would prefer a company like Honda that has succeeded without bailouts or union payoffs.
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4.Would you prefer a health-care system that makes it impossible for you to buy insurance when you have health issues or preexisting conditions over one that allows you to get that care?
No, we don’t want our insurance rates to go through the roof by essentially handing out welfare payments.
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5. Would you prefer that 3 million young americans between the ages of 18 and 26 do without health insurnce and rely on emergemcy rooms for health-care needs at your expense over one that allows them to remain on their parent’s insurnce policies?
We will pay for the freeloaders anyway. With 0bamacare, we’ll pay even more.
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6. Would you prefer that 30 million Americans remain without health insurance and rely on emergency room care for their needs at the expense of you and your health insurance over one that requires them to contribute according to their means and get less expensive care through normal channels?
30 million is a like The figure is 6 million, and we will pay for them either way; more through 0bamacare.
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7.Would you prefer that states like California, North Carolina, Flori
OK Dave…Dan. I totally agree with Suzie.
Let me ask you this questions
1 Do YOU want to pay for WOMEN popping out children like Popcorn?
2 Have any of you (Dave and Dan) ever set in the SOCIAL SERVICE OFFICE on Williamson Road and applied for FOOD STAMPS..46.47 MILLION on GOVERNMENT AKA…US TAX PAYER DOLLARS.
3 EMERGENCY ROOM is a GIVEN…been there many times with dad..
4 QUOTE from BARRY in BRISTOL VA…(give an asthma patient a breath annilator….WHY ARE WE PAYING FOR IGNORANCE…
GOVERNMENT AIN’T DOING THEIR JOB..
MY CHALLENGE TO THE LIBERALS..
Go to SOCIAL SERVICES on WILLIAMSON ROAD…ANY DAY!..
Get back to me when you do…
Dan..you and Dave and any others….set up a blog..
We are under 60 days. You have the Roanoke Times. Dave you worked for WEBB and I think Senator John Edwards, Democrat Candidate for PRESIDENT.
I contend THE ROANOKE TIMES is a PROPAGANDA NETWORK and
WOULD WELCOME AN OPEN FORUM.
I want Suzie ON MY PANEL…you can bring anyone and everybody.
Your NEWSPAPER is NOT fulfilling your CONSTITUTIONAL GUARANTEES granted to you.
The Tea Party will repair the injustices. We are small but carry a huge stick.
Again..will debate you anytime anyplace!
In essence, the rich have persuaded the government to shift the burden of funding the government from the rich to the poor.
Dan is getting more ridiculous with this stuff by the day, saying the rich aren’t paying their fair share, especially when nearly half the population pays no federal taxes at all.
I don’t know, it’s like the third-string kicker at Virginia Tech going up to Logan Thomas and saying “You’re not doing your fair share for the program like the rest of us”. Beyond ludicrous, isn’t it?
You go girl!
Thank you Steve and thank you, VRWC. We really enjoy kicking their butts on their own turf.
“Algore promised a lockbox….was he lying to the americans?”
Steve Nelson, Al Gore never became president. The Supreme Court gave it to GWB. We you under the impression Gore was president?
Don’t look now, suzie, but steve nelson is calling you “girlfriend.”
Wow, let’s see, steve talks about a Ft. “Marcy” in Hampton Roads and wants to know why Gore didn’t follow through with his lockbox promise even though he was never president.
Next he’ll be posting his address and phone number as his name.
“I think we are much better of with the public-sector unions being exposed for what they are…which is a money-laundering scheme for libs.”
This is the RWer garbage du jour. Now that in the private sector unions account for less than 7 percent of employment, the conservatives have turned their attention to public sector unions, who make up a much larger percentage BUT do not have the right to strike, which is the biggest bargaining chip the private sectors unions have.
Time for stevie boy to go beddie bye (pass out).. maybe “girl” should run over and tuck the poor confused child in for the night
“Dan..you and Dave and any others….set up a blog..”
Comment by steve — September 9, 2012 @ 9:40 pm
Steve, scroll up to the top of the page. You will see that this is Dan’s blog.
“Got your back GIRLFRIEND…(to my lib friends I do not know Suzie..but a cheap eharmony date site).”
Even I, Steve.nelson, would never accuse Suzie of being a cheap eharmony date.
The White House today released a new report that finds that the loss of teachers and other education staff is forcing communities into difficult choices that harm our children’s education and future, including increasing class sizes and shortening school years and days. The report shows that more than 300,000 local education jobs have been lost since the end of the recessio
Well no sh*t, honey. The WH putting out a report by ‘educators’ that calls for more teachers. Are we surprised?
The fact is, there is NO evidence that says the bloated education hierarchy serves students better. A lot of learning took place 50 years ago when there were 40 in a class and no ‘diversity coordinators’.
Don’t look now, suzie, but steve nelson is calling you “girlfriend.”
So what? That’s what I call myself. Steve can call me that anytime he wants. So why don’t you retreat back to your stalker lair, granddad.
This is the RWer garbage du jour. Now that in the private sector unions account for less than 7 percent of employment, the conservatives have turned their attention to public sector unions, who make up a much larger percentage BUT do not have the right to strike, which is the biggest bargaining chip the private sectors unions have.
Really? So why are the Chicago teachers on strike? In that city, everybody is liberal Democrat. Everybody is union. I thought that meant everybody would be getting along in socialist nirvana. So how can there possibly be a strike?????
LOL.
LOL.
LOL.
Let me answer the above question for Dan. It is precisely BECAUSE all parties in Chicago are liberal Democrats that there is a strike. It’s called using public tax dollars as your personal piggybank, and they’re all in on the extortion. The unions go on strike with the blessing of the Chiicago leadership. The teachers get the big raises, the corrupt Democrat politicians get the big union donations, and the taxpayers get screwed.
Interesting that in Wisconsin where Scott Walker was supposed to wreck public education, there was no strike!!
#81 “Steve can call me that anytime he wants.”
Now THAT really is creepy. So when will hubby’s “company” give the poor guy a job? He’s out there beggin’ and he’s obviously a right winger. So well spoken, too.
#82 “LOL.
LOL.
LOL.”
Good golly, I thought they supervised computer use in elementary school.
#83 “Interesting that in Wisconsin where Scott Walker was supposed to wreck public education, there was no strike!!”
Hmm, so does Walker get the credit for all those other years in recent decades when there were no strikes?
8:15, 8:18, 8:21, 8:26.
A little early for this, no?
No that the GOP has gone totally ultra right wing bat crazy, the Democratic party has added so many former republicans that it is now more than ever made up of left wing, moderates, and conservatives. Obama remains moderate to conservative under this group which was evident by the left wing being upset at the platform of the convention.
The Democratic Party has become the Party of the people with its diversity covering the spectrum of liberal to conservative. The GOP has become the party of right wing extremists. i.e. Suzie, steve nelson, Tea Party wackos
Rush Limbaugh posited a reason for this peculiarly-timed strike. He said it’s a set-up for Presdient Moron to look like a hero right here at election time, and go in and solve the ‘strike’.
That sounds pretty good to me. Let’s see if it happens that way.
No that the GOP has gone totally ultra right wing bat crazy, the Democratic party has added so many former republicans that it is now more than ever made up of left wing, moderates, and conservatives.
So Richard Beason is basically saying a lot people have switched to Democrat under 0bama, just in time to vote for Romney. Sure, that makes sense.
90. Suzie, LOL. No, just in time to vote for the moderate candidate, Barrack Obama. GOP is now just a minor ultra right wing party. All you have to do is read your comments to see that.
#89 Given the extremely low percentage of success with some of your other predictions, I’d say the odds are tiny.
90. Suzie, we welcome the Rhinos to the Democratic Party as shown by having Gov. Crist speak at the Convention. Thank you for running all the Republicans with any intelligence to the Democratic Party.
Even Ronald Reagan would be a Democrat today and George 1 and 2 are now Rhinos. Hope the Tea Partiers enjoy the solitude.
#81 “Steve can call me that anytime he wants.”
Now THAT really is creepy. So when will hubby’s “company” give the poor guy a job? He’s out there beggin’ and he’s obviously a right winger. So well spoken, too.
Comment by gdad — September 10, 2012 @ 9:02 am
Gdad…you are totally ignorant! What is your point?
Since you are so “enlightened” I am caring for a dying parent…OBAMACARE ain’t paying anything.
You dang right I AM A RIGHT WINGER conservative and Democrat President Barrack Hussein Obama is a FASCIST!
GDAD…do you know what a fascist is or are you going to give me some kind of obvious ignorant response…hate monger, necon, racist, bigot..can not give you rwinger..You already used that one.
WORDS just Words…Democrat Barrack Hussein Obama.
I will take Rwinger anything over a fascis
90. Suzie, LOL. No, just in time to vote for the moderate candidate, Barrack Obama. GOP is now just a minor ultra right wing party. All you have to do is read your comments to see that.
Comment by Richard J Beason, CPA — September 10, 2012 @
Suzie You go girlfriend….(guess they figured us out…a CONSPIRACY?)
Beason Democrat Barrack Hussein Obama is NOT a moderate!
To my LIB FRIENDS…I am unemployed and thankful that I have the time to take care of a parent.
Since this is the Compassionate party..I need for y’all to raise 10k for my well being and healthcare.
Curious who will STEP UP with YOUR MONEY…(do not ask Suzie…she buys me lunch at the hospital)
Algore promised a lockbox….was he lying to the americans?”
Steve Nelson, Al Gore never became president. The Supreme Court gave it to GWB. We you under the impression Gore was president?
Comment by Dan Casey — September 9, 2012 @ 11:12 pm
Dan…The Supreme’s did not give GWB the election. It was a rule of law…not selective RECOUNTING…misguided again.
No I was not under the impression algore was prezzie.
Got another idea…Unemployed and need a NEWER car.
I want y’all to chip in and buy me a CHEVY VOLT…42k with $7500 rebate but cost GM $49K to produce the car.
I will chip in 4k. so with a $11,500 price cost we can get me one for around $25k…not counting how much it COST the US taxpayers..around 49k to produce a golf cart!
Gotta go…and shut my windows…getting cool..(where is the global warming) and just getting unhinged!
#89 Given the extremely low percentage of success with some of your other predictions, I’d say the odds are tiny.
Granddad is still steamed I pegged the true target of the left in the Sandusky scandal, Joe Paterno. He’s also peeved I correctly predicted Coach K would be a future target.
Rhinos
Jeez. We got us a moron alert.
Steve Nelson,
I know what a fascist is. It’s an extreme right-winger infused with a heavy dose of nationalism and a who kisses corporate bosses asses.
Steve, wow, you are out there. I hope your parent has a peaceful week.
Suzie, I guess they need a new name instead of Rhino, just democrat will do.
CHICAGO TEACHERS WALK OUT…
‘GODFATHER’ LOSES CONTROL…
Turn Down 16% Pay Raise…
Have Highest Average Salary In Nation…
Average $76,000 per year before benefits…
SCHOOLS OPEN — BUT JUST TO SERVE FREE MEALS…
400,000 STUDENTS UNLEASHED…
Cops Pour Onto Streets’…
OBAMAVILLE!
Negatore good buddy. Not an EXTREME right winger with a heavy dose of nationalism.
Government allowing private companies to work under GOVERNMENT controls…sound familiar…
You are advocating Obamaville…GM…Chevy VOLTS costing (total) $90k for a golf cart.
Dan thought there was not cuss words allowed on your blog.
I will make this very clear.
I am going to do everything I can to destroy BARRACK HUSSEIN OBAMA and his/your agenda!
You can not defeat,defend this agenda and only game you, the MEDIA..(pravada)is RACE.
You have lost every argument with me and Suzie (never met her but offended you bloggers comments about her…classless) and can only
revert to name calling..titles…whatever.
So let us get this party started…GET A POLITICAL BLOG on this Election.
Again, I would love a public forum in a public debate. The Roanoke Times and me. You can bring anyone you like on your panel and all of the questioners…
Suzie…Never met you but would love to have you on my panel!
I will offer this challenge. The Roanoke Times, Your editorial board and you are complicit in propaganda, selective reporting, and are intent on destroying the American Constitution.
I have made copies of all of the blogs and will take this public to any media that will pick this debate up.
For fair disclosure…I do not know Suzie and have never met her and she is has nothing to do with this.
My challenge goes back almost a month when I went after you, RT, WAPO editors on
OBAMA’S SPEECH IN ROANOKE VA on 7/13 and YOU DID NOT BUILD THAT.
NO SABOTEURS…NO TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT…bovine scatology.
Obama IS a FASCIST and you, the media are complicit in defending this guy and DESTROYING this country!
I will do all I CAN to defeat this agenda.
A gift granted to me by the Declaration of Independence…(suggest you refresh your reading of this)
Steve Nelson
“…Never met you but would love to have you on my panel!”
Is that what the kids are calling it.
#94 “GDAD…do you know what a fascist is or are you going to give me some kind of obvious ignorant response…hate monger, necon, racist, bigot.”
Gee steve, make up things much?
#101 Wait, you’ve never met suzie but she buys you lunch at the hospital?
steve, you are totally unhinged.
dave and dan need to lay off the weed and bath salts. They are actually starting to believe their own Bull sheet
“Wait, you’ve never met suzie but she buys you lunch at the hospital?”
Should we ask which ward?
#106 “Should we ask which ward?”
I think I’ll just leave that one alone.
I noticed Gdad has suddenly stopped bringing up my prediction regarding Coach K. Wonder why that is. LOL.
#108 Well, suze, I don’t bring it up every day — that would just be boring because your “prediction” is so irrelevant — and I’ve already destroyed that prediction as well as your whole tinfoil hat theory about attacking conservative Catholic coaches.
But let’s recap one more time but s-l-o-w-l-y. You were wrong about Boeheim being attacked and ganged up on. You were wrong about Joe Paterno being the true target of the child molesting investigation — the true target was Sandusky, who was convicted at trial (“Catholic child molesters” DOES ring a bell though, doesn’t it). And Coach K is NOT the target of this thing — the target is a joker who still owes $100,000 on some jewelry. HOWEVER, if he did indeed do what some say he did, THEN an automatic NCAA rule might kick in on Duke.
Next thing you know suze will be arguing that the rule was enacted just to ensnare conservative Catholic coaches.
Now tell us, is the coach at UNC a conservative Catholic. How about the guy at Harvard?