Doubletake: Mitt clarifies & reclarifies postion on abortion
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From the You-Can’t-Make-This-Stuff-Up (but he can) Department:
“There’s no legislation with regards to abortion that I’m familiar with that would become part of my agenda,” Romney told the Des Moines Register Tuesday.
From Talking Points Memo:
Shortly after Register interview, Romney’s campaign clarifed the abortion quote to the National Review.
“Governor Romney would of course support legislation aimed at providing greater protections for life,” Romney spokesperson Andrea Saul said.
Romney’s remarks on abortion on The O’Reilly Factor:
October 9, 2012 - 10:00 PM
Excellent. Romney matured and evolved as he saw the horrors of abortion legislation first hand. I think some in this blog are starting to see their mistake in going with the pro-choice view and are gradually changing their views.
Stewart on Romney, “vague against the machine” and “promise heapers.” This clown can’t hold the same position twice in one day.
What do you expect from a man who believes that Jesus was crucified, rose from the dead and said, “Oh crap! I forgot the Olmecs! Send a message to Kolob; tell Moroni that I’m gonna need him to deliver a message for me in about 1800 years. Evil has raised a great many unbelievers in a far-off land. To the Ministry Mobile!”
Am I the only one who wonders what stock Romney puts in the infamous Mormon “majic” underwear? Isn’t it just a little bit important to know if he believes in that?
Furthermore, I’d like a point-blank answer from every candidate running for public office if he/she believes that dinosaurs roamed the earth 6,000 years ago or the earth is 10,000+/- years old.
We can weed some people out before they even have a chance to change positions on real-world subjects like abortion.
You guys knew this was coming……
Suzie, do you believe that dinosaurs roamed the earth 6,000 years ago or that the earth is less than, say, 20,000 years old?
Stericycle.
The end.
The Romney campaign— Lies and the lying liars who tell them.
How can you debate this? He is the least steady candidate I have seen in my lifetime. I cannot comprehend why anyone would see any presidential qualities in this man. He cannot stand up to his base extremists, the Democrats, the billionaire donors and now reports say his son Tag and wife Ann. Who would actually be the president. When this country reelected George W Bush, I thought we had hit an embarrassingly low point, but this candidate takes us to the depths of low education voting.
“He is the least steady candidate I have seen in my lifetime.”
I thought we’d hit a new low with Palin, boy was I ever wrong.
Mitt apparently has a personality disorder where he says different things to different people. Not exactly who you want in foreign affairs or domestic issues. Suzie. How can a patriot vote for such and risk our security?
Teresa:
“I cannot comprehend why anyone would see any presidential qualities in this man.”
I agree, but you can’t seriously make this argument for Obama, either.
All the leftwing crybabies can do is make excuses for their candidate’s incompetence. What happened last Wednesday is 0bama finally got exposed for the zero he is. For 90 minutes, there was no teleprompter, no MSM to prop the idiot up. People finally got to see him for who he is. They also got to see Romney for the strong leader his is free of the leftwing smear filter. The idiot was so inept not even the shrillest leftwinger could spin it into a win. Independents picked Romney by 50+ points.
So please, blog leftwingers, stop embarrassing yourselves by making excuses. In truth, YOU people have been the liars, and you’ve started to believe your own lies. If you’re looking for lying candidates at the debate, look no further than your boy who repeatedly lied about Romney’s tax cut plan. CNN debunked 0bama’s claim that it totalled $5 trillion, and 0bama’s own campaign admitted it was a lie.
The curtain has been pulled, leftwingers, and your idiot has no clothes. Now people finally realize what we conservatives have known for five years.
Teresa, lol. I also wondered what the heck was wrong with the country when it put W back in office to finish up his apparent mission of breaking the planet. The GOP could run Porky Pig and the faithful would support him, loudly and rudely. It just doesn’t matter.
“The Romney campaign— Lies and the lying liars who tell them.”
Except when Obama lied, people died. Benghazi for example.
Henry. You should not be so sure. The GOP cut 500 billion from security from the State Dept. Your party appears to be more responsible for Benghazi.
Suzie. You cannot get away from the GOP making a stupid choice.
RJB@9:48
The problem for the GOP was which stupid choice to make from a field of stupid choices.. They had one intelligent realistic primary candidate.
His name was Jon Huntsman and he never had a prayer.
Mrs. Chandler and I sat wringing our limp, effete, liberal wrists last evening angsting over what life would be like should Mitt win. We finally came up with a positive spin. We agreed that life was much more fun when we had the multi Nixon and Bush screw-ups to hate and in that aspect we expect a bountiful four years from Mitt. Unfortunately we will have to watch it lounging in our TV equipped refrigerator box.
I wish Huntsman would just come be a democrat. We appreciate smart, rational people on this side. Being smart and rational is a negative in the GOP.
@11 – Wow all the RWers’ parroted talking points in one post by one of the most ill-informed RWer here – quite an accomplishment to become such a RW shill, no?
#11 “If you’re looking for lying candidates at the debate, look no further than your boy who repeatedly lied about Romney’s tax cut plan. CNN debunked 0bama’s claim that it totalled $5 trillion, and 0bama’s own campaign admitted it was a lie.”
When suzie repeats something as many times as she’s repeated this, you know she’s lying or telling only a partial truth.
I would like to re-highlight the excellent point made by John Wilburn
“Furthermore, I’d like a point-blank answer from every candidate running for public office if he/she believes that dinosaurs roamed the earth 6,000 years ago or the earth is 10,000+/- years old.
We can weed some people out before they even have a chance to change positions on real-world subjects like abortion.
You guys knew this was coming……
Suzie, do you believe that dinosaurs roamed the earth 6,000 years ago or that the earth is less than, say, 20,000 years old?”
Well Suzie? How old do you believe the earth to be and would this impact your choice amongst otherwise equal republican candidates? (since you can not rationally discuss Dems)
Dave and Kristen –
I too thought Hunstman was the best of the field. I might have even voted for him. Smart, informed, capable, strong knowledge of foreign policy…
But the Rethuglican right wing made sure that my choice was much easier, well was no real choice at all.
Screwzie
Mitt and 5 trillion
“The conclusion is accurate but misleading. Yes, the cuts would total that amount”
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/oct/04/barack-obama/obama-says-romneys-plan-5-trillion-tax-cut/
“The claim is based on a study done by the Tax Policy Center, a nonpartisan group that has analyzed the tax plans of the candidates. The center examined Romney’s proposals for a 20 percent reduction in all federal income tax rates, eliminating the Alternative Minimum Tax, eliminating the estate tax and other tax reductions.
The center estimated that altogether, the lost revenues would total $480 billion by 2015. The Obama campaign adds up the cost over a decade and winds up with $4.8 trillion, which it then rounds up to $5 trillion.”
So- it is only as incorrect as any time any Mitt mentions any 10 year consequences – like his discussion of medicare and obamacare and well pretty much anything.
Not that actual numbers can penetrate the bubble…
Same, Warlock. If Huntsman had ended up to be the nominee, I would have been concentrating on this election a lot harder. As it is, I only have one viable options.
Speaking of abortion, let me ask a question. It’s OK to kill a baby in it’s mothers womb when?
180movie.com
It just might change your mind.
Who gives a crap who a bunch of leftwingers think Romney should have picked and why on earth would we listen to them? Ryan has helped give Romney more cred with the conservative base – something he needed.
When suzie repeats something as many times as she’s repeated this, you know she’s lying or telling only a partial truth.
I’ve posted the video twice. Show us where the lie is. LOL.
Suzie, do you believe that dinosaurs roamed the earth 6,000 years ago or that the earth is less than, say, 20,000 years old?
No, I don’t. Do you believe MMGW nuts like who claim worldwide sea levels rise by three to six feet by 2100 if we keep driving cars?
Suzie,
Apparently you have an issue with comprehension. The video you posted does not back up the claim you make.
Romney’s 20 percent across-the-board tax cut will cost $5 trillion. No one disputes that. Except you.
The issue is whether you believe Romney when he says he will make up that $5 trillion through closing deductions and loopholes in a way that a) won’t lower taxes on the wealthy, b) won’t raise taxes on the middle class or c) increase the deficit. Independent analysts who have looked at the numbers, so there is no mathematically possible way of doing all three. The only question is how Mitt Romney would break his promise. (I think he’ll go for the trifecta: cut taxes on the wealthy, increase them on the middle class AND increase the deficit.)
I don’t believe Catholics are the ones who brought us the 14000 year old earth. There’s a reason Catholic institutions like Georgetown and Fordham are world class and well respected, and places like Regents and Liberty…aren’t.
Should be: Independent analysts who have looked at the numbers say there is no mathematically possible way of doing all three.
The claim of how old the earth is comes from the work of James Ussher, Bishop in the Church of Ireland, from 1625 to 1656. Archbishop Ussher took the genealogies of Genesis, assuming they were complete, and calculated all the years to arrive at a date for the creation of the earth on Sunday, October 23, 4004 B.C.
http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/ussher.htm
“…to arrive at a date for the creation of the earth on Sunday, October 23, 4004 B.C.” –Shrill
Ahhh, so the earth is a Scorpio. I knew there was a reason I liked this place…
Suzie, you should be ashamed voting for a candidate that promised to support the pro-life legislation of the GOP and now says he will not considering your view of abortion. One more thing of the GOP platform that Romney has flushed. I have to wonder if Obama is the conservative candidate? Romney is turning liberal so quickly its making everyone’s head spin. Even his campaign staff can’t keep up. As ffor Ryan, he will have to stand up at the debate and say none of his policies matter as they are running on Mitt’s policies. That’s when you will really know that Mitt does not support (today) anything you believe in. Non one has a clue what Mitt will support tomorrow.
Romney is turning liberal so quickly its making everyone’s head spin.
Romney has said he will not propose legislation to overturn Roe. He knows it’s impractical at this time.
Do you think I should vote for the confirmed baby-killer we have in office now?
Kristen, 14,000 years? I was told 6,000 years. Has Earth been lying about her age? That cougar!
Ussher’s chronology would put the earth at 6016 years 17 days and 23 hours (ish).
His math led him to the beginning of creation as 6PM Sunday September 22, 4004 BC.
Suzie:
“No, I don’t [believe in a "young earth" hypothesis]. Do you believe MMGW nuts like who claim worldwide sea levels rise by three to six feet by 2100 if we keep driving cars?
I don’t know Suzie. Like you, I’ll be one hundred and dead years old by then. I believe we need better stewardship of our planet, though.
So is the Genesis account NOT literal? Sounds like Suzie is drawing a line at just how far out she’ll suspend her reason in the name of hanging onto sentimental religious teachings.
VVarlock:
37.”Ussher’s chronology would put the earth at 6016 years 17 days and 23 hours (ish).
His math led him to the beginning of creation as 6PM Sunday September 22, 4004 BC.”
I guess they just bolt any conglomeration of half-baked theories together or keep trying different formulas until they arrive at the number desired….science and reality free.
SUZIE. I think you should vote for Goode. His platform aligns with yours. That way you don’t have to go against your Faith.
#36 It gets even worse, dobbs, I’ve also heard 10,000 years.
“Romney has said he will not propose legislation to overturn Roe. He knows it’s impractical at this time.”
In other words, Romney knows it’s impractical to ‘stop killing innocent babies’? Is that what you’re saying? He’s against abortion, but it’s not convenient to really do anything about it right now?
The only thing impractical about it for Romney is the votes it will cost him if he doesn’t flip-flop to a moderate stance on the issue.
I must have lived a sheltered life growing up…the first time I met someone who believed the Bible literally, I was 24 years old. And I thought they were kidding. Awkward.
Rmoney has no plans to touch Roe because he knows it’s a loser issue and there’s zero national will to tinker with women’s rights. That’s what makes it not “practical”. It’s never going to be.
Kristen:
43.”I must have lived a sheltered life growing up…the first time I met someone who believed the Bible literally, I was 24 years old. And I thought they were kidding. Awkward.”
I grew up in the Bible Belt, went to a Christian K-12, went to a Baptist College, and lived on its campus for the first 18 years of my life, too. I bet I was in college before I met a true atheist. There were very few openly skeptical. I would like to have a discussion with you sometime about the cultural differences between our respective upbringings. Perhaps at some future blogger get together.
I guess Screwzie ran away from this thread, too. She must be okay with the impracticality of stopping the killing of innocent babies.
Huntsman
LOL. You leftwingers should stick to picking losers for your own party. You’ve done pretty well at that.
“…what the heck was wrong with the country when it put W back in office…”
The country didn’t put Bush back in office, Ken Blackwell did.
So is the Genesis account NOT literal? Sounds like Suzie is drawing a line at just how far out she’ll suspend her reason in the name of hanging onto sentimental religious teachings.
There is no conflict at all in not believing everything in the bible literally and following biblical teaching.
It’s just another in a long string of leftwing lies that most women value abortion rights. The single leftist sleeparounds may want them. Mainstream married Christian women (i.e. REAL women) see abortion as an abomination.
“There is no conflict at all in not believing everything in the bible literally and following biblical teaching.”
The statement above is one reason certain fundamentalist Christians consider the Pope the Antichrist and the Roman Catholic Church evil incarnate.
Suzie:
“There is no conflict at all in not believing everything in the bible literally and following biblical teaching.”
OHHHHH, you mean like the leftist posters here that you have more in common with than you realize. You reserve YOUR right to pick and choose what is true, but have no respect for others who pick and choose different parts to believe than you do.
Apparently you have an issue with comprehension. The video you posted does not back up the claim you make.
Romney’s 20 percent across-the-board tax cut will cost $5 trillion. No one disputes that. Except you.
Try again, Rad. CNN’s analysts dispute the figure and the 0bama campaign itself admitted it was a lie. Watch again.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kg0BmPhz2Dw
LOL.
Suzie that’s why he’s back at the rt..lol
I notice the leftwing kooks have dodged Ryan’s point, that you could tax all the millionaires and billionaires at 100%, take all their money, and you still wouldn’t make a dent in the deficit.
That proves the whole objection of the left is to stick it to achievers and NOT solve the problem.
Suzie:
“Mainstream married Christian women (i.e. REAL women) see abortion as an abomination.”
Suzie, “married mainstream Christian women” are pretty much a know quantity of mostly hypocritical cafeteria Catholics, buffet Baptists, and middle of the road Methodists. Any adult with a vagina is a “real woman”, but a lady is closer to what you describe. Of course, you wouldn’t know what that is.
“The country didn’t put Bush back in office, Ken Blackwell did.
Comment by Art Hill — October 13, 2012 @ 1:10 am”
the country didn’t put bammy in office, geroge soros did
Of course leftwingers are now saying that allowing the Bush tax cuts continue is “giving a tax cut to the rich” even though Dan Casey says those Bush cuts eliminated the tax burden for a lot of the 47%.
I don’t think the left will be pleased until the rich pay 100% of the entire burden.
Suzie:
“That proves the whole objection of the left is to stick it to achievers and NOT solve the problem.”
I’ll agree with you that the left wants to try to tax the problem away rather than deal with it. Some natural selection needs to happen at both the artificial top and bottom.