Give us your crazy on the Saturday OPEN thread
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“My psychiatrist told me I was crazy and I said I want a second opinion. He said okay, you’re ugly too.”
Rodney Dangerfield
Go University of Maryland Terps!
October 6, 2012 - 10:00 AM
I think this fits under the category of crazy!! How do we elect these people??
http://cosmiclog.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/10/05/14203607-video-shows-scientist-in-congress-saying-evolution-is-from-pit-of-hell?lite
Wow! Salem really beat the pants off Cave Spring last night on the Knight’s own field! What a slaughter!
I had an experience similar to Rodney’s.
I thought I needed someone to talk to, to listen to my problems and help me understand my life. So I went to a therapist. I continued seeing him for ten years, twice a week, where I would tell him all my innermost thoughts while he listened intently, and I thought we were making some progress. Then one day he said something that really surprised me:
“No Habla Ingles”
Hey all you gonzos and politically minded folks….the review for Antigone is in: http://www.roanoke.com/extra/wb/314996 I would love to see some of you at this production. It runs tonight and then this coming week, Thurs-Saturday. I will be there at the door handing out playbills and chatting – all you need to say is something along the lines of “I’m one of Dan’t gonzos” or “I waste time arguing on Dan’s blog” and your ticket it $5.00. Best deal in town for theatre. Visit gamuttheatre.com for more info or call 540-521-6049 if you need directions/reservations.
Dan, you couldn’t have just said “Go Terps?”
Turns out crazy ol’ Frank was in fact half right about Wisconsin;
They have gone all “hook, line and sinker”, just not for Mitt and chedderbomb.
http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-obama-leads-wisconsin-20121003,0,2650291.story
Hey steve c, ….BUT WAIT! Why then, did Dear Leader campaign in Cheeseheadville, Wisconsin, Thursday? Doesn’t he read the same polls as you do?
Oh snap.
That libbiecom rag the Wall Street Journal is playing hell with Frank’s narrative about Wisconsinites going “Hook, line and sinker” for Romney, chedderbomb and Tommy Thompson.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390444592404578030251929037928.html
Frank’s incredible record of fail is surpassed only by suz’s hopeless effort to predict “landslides”.
more on crazy: http://tinyurl.com/99czavc
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Georgia Rep. Paul Broun calls evolution lie from ‘pit of hell’
THENS, Ga. — Georgia Rep. Paul Broun said in videotaped remarks that evolution, embryology and the Big Bang theory are “lies straight from the pit of hell” meant to convince people that they do not need a savior.
The Republican lawmaker made those comments during a speech Sept. 27 at a sportsman’s banquet at Liberty Baptist Church in Hartwell. Broun, a medical doctor, is running for re-election in November unopposed by Democrats.
“God’s word is true,” Broun said, according to a video posted on the church’s website. “I’ve come to understand that. All that stuff I was taught about evolution and embryology and Big Bang theory, all that is lies straight from the pit of hell. And it’s lies to try to keep me and all the folks who are taught that from understanding that they need a savior.”
SNIP
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What do you know. A well written article on a position that I have been arguing for 50 years — from back in the days of arguing with active Birch Society members.
http://tinyurl.com/8gfmc6m
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A Conventional Approach to Amending the Constitution?
By Shawn Zeller, CQ Staff
The rise of the tea party and the loosening of restrictions on corporate and individual political spending have set the Congressional Research Service to thinking: What would happen if a majority of the states bypassed Congress and demanded a convention to modify the Constitution?
As it turns out, there is no simple answer to the question of how Congress would oversee the process. The Constitution gives states the right to petition Congress — provided that two-thirds (currently 34) do so — to convene a convention to propose amendments to the Constitution; amendments would then have to be ratified by three-fourths of the states
SNIP [a number of important questions]
Neale’s report says one of the biggest unresolved issues is whether a “runaway convention” could propose a far-reaching series of changes to the Bill of Rights, for instance. That, after all, is how the original Constitution was written, in a Philadelphia convention called in 1787 to propose ways to strengthen the Articles of Confederation.
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#7 Frank,
Jeez, I don’t know, Frank, maybe because he’s trying to win the state? Using your stunningly simple minded logic, why was Romney in Fishersville on Friday?
BTW, 30,000 people showed up in Madison to see our Commander in Chief and only 5,700 people showed up to see Mitt and chedderbomb in Fishersville.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/theoval/2012/10/04/obama-romney-debate-madison-denver/1613683/
http://www.readthehook.com/107773/fishersville-romney-rallies-troops-after-debate-victory
When are you going to cease and desist with this foolishness? Even a broken clock is right twice a day, and the score is broken clocks two, Frank zip.
Good luck tilting at that windmill!
Does anybody want to talk about Hokie football? I’m just wondering if there is such a thing left anywhere in Blacksburg? Perhaps it’s time for Frank Beamer to forget about “Beamer Ball” and think about retiring!
P. S. Has anyone called the Little of the Sisters Poor in Baltimore to see if they have a football opening in their schedule next season? Perhaps the Hokies could also check in with Roanoke College and Hollins University, too!
Dan,
Looks as if you had more fun that we did, today.
Congrats. on the win.
Keep on smokin’ obama…
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/05/ice-t-obama-no-weed-debate_n_1943928.html
obama’s lead in RCP polls down to 1.4 on heels of his anonymous, empty suit and head showing in the ‘debate’.
someone knows very little about football. Cave Spring lost to Salem by seven points that is not a slaughter. A slaughter is the way VT has been getting beat.
Mitt Romney wants all the baby boomers that have retired in the last four years to be counted in uneployment numb rs in order to increase rate. He seems to think that is the better way to compute. LOL.
Perhaps it’s time for Frank Beamer to forget about “Beamer Ball” and think about retiring!
You’re a dedicated fan, Scamuel. The guy wins 10 games eight season in a row, goes to 19 straight bowls, and you’re ready to throw him out after three losses.
On a brighter note, the Maryland Terrapins now have a better record than the Hokies after beating Wake Forest in the ugliest football game I’ve been to in years.
Maryland also played WVU tough. That seems hard to believe after watching WVU beat Baylor and Texas like they did.
Every acc game was ugly yesterday .. hokies. And wahoos were bad. Fla st and Miami took big hits. Bc lost to army . The only teams that looked decent were carolina and clemson .
#17…This was an article from the Czech Republic, in the paper Prager Zeitungon…..“The danger to America is not Barak Obama, but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgement to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for thier President. The problem is much deeper and far more serious the Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails America. Blaming the `prince of the fools` should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. The Republic can survive a Barak Obama, who is, merely a fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools, such as those who made him their President.
I knew it wouldn’t take long for the Hokie haters and armchair Athletic Directors to come out of the woodwork. Of course it’s because Beamer needs to retire! He was given an absolutely dull turd to polish and he’s managed to make it shine like a lighthouse beacon, taking a podunk, cow-college football team and turning them into a perennial contender. Nevermind that this year’s team lacks the talent and depth of years past. Nevermind that they have a converted tight end attempting to run the offense. Nevermind the injuries to key players. It’s all because Beamer’s just getting to old, right? He’s lost his edge? After all, if he can’t win the ACC championship more than a pathetic 70% of the time, he’s worthless, right?
I was a fan in the early ’80s, when we couldn’t get more than 5,000 people to come to Lane Stadium, even when we played UVa. I was a fan when 50,000 people partied together, carrying the goalposts through downtown Blacksburg after beating a nationally-ranked team. I’m a fan through this heartbreak of a start this season. I’ll be a fan when the 2013 recruiting class develops and all the haters are hatin’ as the Jokie Chokie Hokies carry yet more trophies to that increasingly crowded case.
Say what you want about Beamer. Whether you like it or not, whether Blacksburg ever sees a National Championship or not, history will remember him as one of the most successful coaches in the history of NCAA football.
Gah! “too old”, not “to old”.
For that, I shall punish myself by wearing my favorite t-shirt. It’s says: “I’m the grammarian about whom your mother warned you.”
In other heartbreaking news, I lost a muskellunge on the river yesterday that probably would’ve measured around 4-5 feet long. After fighting him for nearly an hour, he shook the hook and my “fish of ten thousand casts” is still in the water somewhere north of McCoy.
hey steve c, I appreciate your candidness above, when you answered, “because he wants to win the state”….in response to my question, “why is obuma continuing to campaign in Wisconsin?”…if it’s so in the bag?
That said, let’s look at some FACTS:
1. Larry Sabato, the non-partisan political guru at UVA, called the debate “a blow-out…”, for Romney. FACT
2. I’m glad Romney AND Ryan are campaigning in Virginia, because the race here is close. Conversely, I’d think you’d be all over obuma for wasting money by campaigning in Wisconsin…, oops, I forgot that libs appear to actually WANT the pres to waste money… MY OPINION.
Regarding Wisconsin’s in-the-bag-for-dems status…, either he’s smart, and you’re dumb…, or…, you’re smart and HE’s dumb. You know that’s REALLY NOT a trick question. Which is it? JUST A SIMPLE QUESTION.
3. Fishersville is not even a town…it’s barely a crossroads off an interstate in rural Virginia…population less than 6000. FACT.
4. Fishersville is in Augusta County, which has a total population of about 70,000 people. FACT.
5. Augusta County and Fishersville do not have a 42,000 university in their midst, unlike Madison, Wisconsin. FACT.
6. Augusta County is not a state capital stocked full of students, well-fare recipients, and government workers…unlike Madison, Wisconsin. FACT.
7. Augusta County is not located within 140 miles (a little over a 2 hour drive away…) of Chicago, which is obuma’s hometown, and the bastian of alinsky-obuma politics. FACT.
8. Romney’s crowd of about 5800 people well-represented the Fishersville area…which itself has a population of less than 6,000, and Augusta County, with total population of 70,000. FACT.
9. Madison, Wisconsin is the State Capital of Wisconsin, the County Seat of Dane County, and home to the University of Wisconsin. Dane County has a population of 500,000….not counting a good chunk of full time students. FACT.
10. obuma’s speech is reported to have attracted 30,000 people (yeah…, right…). FACT (albeit a pretty loose one…)
11. According to the Wisconsin State Journal, in a 10/05/12 post by reporter Doug Erickson, “the obama campaign paid UW-Wisconsin $15,000 for Thursday’s rally”. FACT.
12. The uh, “rally” required the all-day closing of several campus buildings, displacing about 180 classes and 3200 students with scheduled classes that day. FACT.
13. Ken Mayer, a political science professor, maintained that “putting the event IN THE CENTER OF CAMPUS was unnecessarily disruptive”. OPINION.
14. According to Mayer, who on the day of the rally held his 11:00 a.m. lecture class on American Government, “only about 50 of the 420 enrolled students attended the lecture”. FACT.
15. Even with the attendance-deck stacked heavily in favor of a blow-out crowd, obuma attracted a rally-crowd of only about 30,000….or a figure representing only about six percent (6%) of the population of Dare County.
FACT. …sad but true, I know.
16. Romney’s rally pulled 8.3% of the population of Augusta County. FACT
17. steve c, ask yourself these questions:
*has Wisconsin’s economy gotten worse, or better, in Wisconsin over the past 2 years?
*has conservative Gov. Walker won two state-wide elections in the past 2 years…by ever-increasing margins, and in the face of frantic union oposition?
*has the conservative Lt. Governor also won 2 state-wide elections with Gov. Walker?
*did the last race for US Senate go the way of the libs, or the conservatives?
And, you REALLY think that the voters in Wisconsin are gonna go lib all of a sudden?
Just back from a long trip to Ohio – interesting to see a state that is a “battleground” state have so few Romney/Ryan signs through the central north/south corridor. For every 8 Obama/Biden signs there were no more than 2 Romney/Ryan signs [and they were small, like the posters were apologetic for having to put them on their lawns]….from Toledo to southern Ohio there does not appear a lot of support for the republican candidates.
Looking over the last weeks posts, I can see the usual cast of RW characters are still spewing their talking points…like the Bureau of Labor is falsifying their reports…yes, a department that has been in existence since 1884 is going to juice up the stats for this election and this president…how ridiculous can republicans get?
Say what you want about Beamer. Whether you like it or not, whether Blacksburg ever sees a National Championship or not, history will remember him as one of the most successful coaches in the history of NCAA football.
Yes. Beamer is a superb Christian conservative man,
#26: Bureau of Labor career statisticians falsify data for a liberal agenda, competing pollsters falsify data for a liberal agenda, scientists falsify data for a liberal agenda, state birth records officials falsify data for a liberal agenda, enrollment officers at universities falsify data for a liberal agenda, the majority of competing news businesses falsify information for a liberal agenda, and the only honest people in the world happen to share an ideology.
Believe all of that if you expect to be a good “conservative”.
holy cow, J.M.! Given that one-in-10,000 casts scenario, at least you’ve got the memory (and tomorrow, the achs and pains) of an hour fight with a 4-5 footer! That’s some fish. Your story has parallels to those which appear in Sports Afield, Field & Stream, Outdoor Life. And then we see posted pics of a smiling 12 year old making that kind of catch of a lifetime… their first time out!
I bet he’s out there waiting for you.
A local opinion column in Sunday’s RT absolutely nails the idiocy and dishonesty of the whole coalfield “issue” made up by the Rethugs. It points out that the overwhelming primary reason for dropping employment over the decades is increasing mechanization and change in extraction methods (IOW, leveling whole mountains instead of digging it out) as well as better energy sources. It then went on to say”
“The Republican fervor for backing at all costs a dated and dying industry is unconscionable.
Let’s also be clear about coal’s impact on the region. Wherever coal has been mined, there is a strong inverse correlation between community wealth and coal production. According to WendyB. Davis (“Out of the Black Hole: Reclaiming the Crown of King Coal,” American University Law Review, 2002), “Appalachia is poor because of, and in spite of, its wealth of natural resources. Coal has made, and kept, the people of Appalachia poor. … The economic dependence on the coal mining industry, combined with the devastating environmental and health effects associated with coal mining, have resulted in unusable real estate, lower education levels and a generally lower standard of living than anywhere else in this country.”
If coal mining is so essential to the economy, why are the coalfields communities the poorest in the state, instead of the richest? Like extractive industries everywhere, the money flows directly to the top of the economic food chain, often to corporate managers and industrialists who neither live in nor care about the welfare of the affected communities. These are the people Griffith and Senate candidate George Allen really support.”
http://www.roanoke.com/editorials/commentary/wb/314983
“still in the water somewhere north of McCoy.”
This is why I no longer wade in the New.
Frank, you just wasted a bunch of bandwidth on these 17 points. Were you trying to make a point or something or just mumbling to yourself?
Just try to keep it simple, Frank; eloquence is not your thing. If you were half as smart as you think you are, your MacArthur Genius grant application would have arrived in your mail box yesterday instead of the pretty four color brochure extolling the virtues of the fabulous Hoverarond.
Art Hill: I used to scuba dive on the rescue team in McCoy. Trust me, muskies are the least of your worries. The catfish through that stretch of the river grow to ENORMOUS sizes, and there’s a healthy population of them.
When diving during the search for Andrea Walnes, I kicked off of a six-foot long log in the bottom of a large hydraulic hole. The “log” rolled underneath my fins and slowly swam away. I estimate it was around 100-125 lbs. and at least 5-1/2 to 6 feet long.
Claytor Lake is even better. I’ve had two dive partners refuse to ever go in the lake again. I’ve never seen anything bigger than six-footers in there, but I know that when a man fires out of the water, over the gunwale with 80lbs. worth of gear on and no one helping him, he’s seen something that scared him on a primal level. The look on his face is forever seared into my mind. It hasn’t deterred me from getting in the water every chance I get, though. Call it what you will.
Frank: thanks for the condolences. My shoulders are a bit sore, but they don’t hurt as much as my pride. I don’t plan on giving up just yet. Every time I catch an 8-14 inch creek chub or horny-head, it’s going on a hook and out in the hole. There are some absolute beasts along that stretch of the river and it’s one fish I’ve yet to put on my list. But I will… oh, yes… I will.
@23 J.M.White
Ditto
Shrill, did you also notice that obama’s +10 lead has dwindled down to +3 less than a week after not showing up for the ‘debate’?
Anyone think obama may ask if someone else can fill in for him next ‘debate’?
“Yes. Beamer is a superb Christian conservative man,” What a Dork. Beamers legacy will be in games won and lost. No one 10 years from now will remember or care about his politics or faith.
Wow, Doto gets his neocon news from the Czech Republic from an ultra conservative German newspaper. Think that really has more credibility than Faux News? Funny stuff.
Newt calls the Mittster out–
Newt Gingrich: Romney Flip-Flopped On Tax Cuts
hey geeeedummy,
In my opinion, the reason that the coal fields are econmically depressed is WHOLLY due to you libs’ devastating and un-relenting efforts to…. KILL ….the coalfiels.
here’s a beaut for ALL readers, especially libs like ol’ dano, to reflect on!
On page 4 of our own Roanoke Times, the following is reported, “FEDERAL AUTHORITIES SAID HE WAS BEHIND THE FILM “INNOCENCE OF MUSLIMS”, WHICH HAS LED TO VIOLENCE IN THE MIDDLE EAST AND THE DEATHS OF DOZENS, INCLUDING THE U.S. AMBASSADOR TO LYBIA, CHRISTOPHER STEVENS”.
Sadly, I kid you not. You really can’t make this stuff up! That was in TODAY’S paper, page 4 – wire reports.
Next, in an Editorial ALSO appearing in TODAY’S paper, in the Horizon Section, the RT’s editors get it a “little more” right, albeit quite a bit late….: “whistleblower revelations of terror threats BEFORE (my emphasis) the slaying of the U.S. Ambassador to Libya likely influenced, if not forced, last week’s decision by the Obama administration to declare the attack on the consulate in Benghazi a terrorist act”.
In other words, the only reason that obuma is changing his story is because of some dastardly whistle-blowers! Yep, that looks like what we’re being told by the RTs’ editors, and which you libs are swallowing like blu-kool-aid.
Just a couple of questions:
1. Why is your lib news reporter person a week behind your lib editor person…in the same freaking issue? And, all the while, your paper has to litter our drive-ways with extra copies of the papers that they can’t even “give” away down-town! To borrow ol’ dano’s oft uttered phrase, “you can’t make this stuff up!” Seriously!
2. Sadly, the lib editors REALLY appear to think that the only reason obuma should have released even “some” facts about Ambassador Stevens’ death is due to those… dastardly… …WHISTLEBLOWERS! …and certainly NOT due to those same editors WANTING the American people to know what really happened, …which is that the whole brutal Libya attack, and multiple murders, were NOT driven by an “unstable” American filmaker.
Seriously?
hey stve c, not much to debate after you had to confront the facts, eh?
J.m. White,
i’d like to put you in touch with my oldest son on the ESVA. He and some friends recently went fishing one Friday evening for Red Drum in the Chesapeake Bay. In about 3 hours they caught several Red Drum the smallest of which was 40 to 50 pounds. Couldn’t keep them because they were too big. I think I have pictures saved which I can share with Dan who can share with you. They had a great time. Sounds like you had a great time as well.
JM, I dive and I wont even swim in SML. The weirdly huge catfish and carp and bizarre life in the manmade bodies of water around here just gross me out.
#39 Please provide the evidence that you’ve based that opinion on, Frank.
Crickets.
Thanks, Frankie Wankie.
#27 Well then I guess your MSM conspiracy will be going after him swoon.
BTW, can you link to examples of his conservative and Christian views? I’ve never seen any.
Looking over the last weeks posts, I can see the usual cast of RW characters are still spewing their talking points…like the Bureau of Labor is falsifying their reports…yes, a department that has been in existence since 1884 is going to juice up the stats for this election and this president…how ridiculous can republicans get?
Comment by Shrillary — October 7, 2012 @ 1:57 pm
LOL…Shrillary, everyone knows that you have to wait until next weeks “revision” comes out to get an idea how much they fudged the number.
Reality, nothing has changed; unemployment is between 14.0% and 20.0%.
What’s your take on the admin agreeing to pay fines and penalties for Company’s not to follow the Warn act? LOL
Frank, here are the “facts”;
You said Wisconsin was going “Hook, line and sinker” for Tommy Thompson, Mitt and Chedderbomb.
I said you were wrong.
I am right.
You are wrong.
Frank, you are without a doubt the most sanctimonious pain in the ass on this board. I swear to God you’d bitch about it if President Obama crapped gold bricks and paid the deficit off with it. Stop being such a miserable SOB and learn to shut the hell up when you are wrong. It’s just the internets, Frank; it’s not a blood sport and since you’ll never meet anyone here the humiliation is pretty much limited to me making fun of you. Just admit that you were wrong and let it go and I might forget about after a year or so.
“The catfish through that stretch of the river grow to ENORMOUS sizes”
Eggleston bend is 90+ feet. No telling what’s down there.
Ron May: Those definitely sound like some nice drum. I get out to the Shore as often as I can, though not as often as I’d like. I have access to a house on Smith Beach. The only real fishing I’ve done there is to go out in the dinghy and catch flounder, though. If you’d like to contact me, please feel free to do so through Dan. Consider this my express permission for him to give you that info. I’d love to see those pictures if you can find them.
Kristen: I forgot about the carp! Godzilla Goldfish. I’ve seen them easily in the 50-90lbs. range while diving. The biggest one I saw was in around forty feet of water while trying out my dry suit in February on Claytor. With the water temps so low, he just kind of drifted off real slowly when I touched him.
One of the few times I dove SML, I got to watch a school of stripers demolish a school of shad. It was like watching a nature film. They herded the bait fish and took turns diving through the bait ball. The stripers in waiting got to pick off the stragglers and panicked runners. Then, as quickly as they came, they were gone. I don’t get in the water at all at SML anymore. I get sick every time I swim/dive there.
I have to agree, though: Man-made reservoirs are creepy places to dive. With the visibility generally so limited, it gets surreal fast, especially when 100lb. fish come swimming at you. I’ve also seen some strange things that I can’t be sure were for real or not. After I made a few cavern dives and dives into the holes and ledges along the New, the lake tends to not be as unnerving to me.
Ahhh…thereee he is…little stevie c is baaack! as far as “forgetting” something in a year of soo… I suggest you get a life, little stevie.
#50 IOW, Frankie been owned.
Lol, gpuddles obviously doesn’t know how to read. But you keep playing cheerleader.
Wisconsin went from being +7 for Obama before the debate to only +2 after the debate, at least, according to Democrat-leaning Public Policy Polling. Ouch. That’s gotta sting. But sure, Wisconsin is in the bag for Dear Leader. No hope for Romney.
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2011/PPP_Release_WI_1006.pdf
“In my opinion, the reason that the coal fields are econmically depressed is WHOLLY due to you libs’ devastating and un-relenting efforts to…. KILL ….the coalfiels.”
Fact – Coal is a finite resource. It runs out. The industry towns are ticking time bombs with expiration dates tacked on from the start. No liberal or conservative can control that.
Hey MikeC, I haven’t yet heard that the coal in southwest VA has been depleted. I HAVE recently heard that a large coal company, Alpha Natural Resources, has laid off about 800 employees, and not for the reason of there “not being enough coal” to mine.
“Hey MikeC, I haven’t yet heard that the coal in southwest VA has been depleted. I HAVE recently heard that a large coal company, Alpha Natural Resources, has laid off about 800 employees, and not for the reason of there “not being enough coal” to mine.”
And it’s NOT because Virginia has been cracking down on them, either, of course. Market forces are at work here. Cheap coal has been replaced by cheaper natural gas.
The same thing would happen to gas stations if anyone ever figured out a way to make cars run on water.
According to RCP, obama’s ‘lead’ has dwindled to 0.9 nationally. He should have chose the name Peter instead of obama or soetero or whatever.
Then, come November, we can say he Petered out…
#56 “The same thing would happen to gas stations if anyone ever figured out a way to make cars run on water.”
And people like Frankie would still “blame” Obama for destroying the oil extraction business.
Has everyone seen the new ad where 0bama is still lying about the $5 trillion in tax cuts? This is even after liberal CNN debunked the claim and the 0bama campaign itself admitted it had been lying.
Frankly, I wish it were a $5 trillion tax cut. And if the left bitches, then Mitt should agree to “pay for it” with #5 trillion in spending cuts.
#59 IF — that’s IF — Obama is continuing to run an ad with a falsehood, he simply learned the tactic from Romney and Romney-supporting PACs.
59. Suzie – That is the problem with Mitt, he has said so many different things, no one knows what his platform is anymore. 5 trillion in tax cuts for 18 months, then no tax cuts at all, then maybe some tax cuts if it does not affect the deficit. its just like his foreign policies, bomb Iran, bomb Syria, Put tariffs on China, now its put more sanctions on Iran but no bombing, arm Syria rebels, negotiate harder with China but no tariffs. Before you know it, Mitt will be sprouting ideas that are left of Obama.
One things for sure, no one can pin Mitt Romney down. He is a Right, left Wing I’ll say anything for a vote dope. You should be proud to support someone with no convictions who is just the opposite of all you have preached about. Until Mitt actually quits flip flop floundering, any ad the Democrats put out is accurate.
Frank, my comment was a blanket generalization it was not specific to Aplha Resources. There are many a town that have suffered that fate. My point is it will happen eventually; regardless of liberal or conservative practices. Who gets the blame then?
MikeC, I get what you are saying, I just don’t see that it makes any sense for the libs to hasten the economic failure of an entire region by reducing private enterprise’s ability to mine the remaining coal.
In fact, MikeC, I’m not worried about “who might get the blame” decades from now…I’m worried about the coal miners being crushed by job-crushing regulations…now.
hey Bobsey Twin #2 (geedummy), I think you have reduced yourself to blathering about nothing. Take a break, maybe go think up some ideas about how you might be able to help vp joe…give him your best “atta boy” for his recent comment about the “middle class….BURIED…these past four years”. I betcha ol’ joe needs some love about now.
hey dano,
what’s up with the RTs yesterday? Page 4, the news-person decided to plug in a wire report which said that the “movie” was the cause of the killing of Ambassador Stevens and 3 other Americans on 9/11/12.
Then, the RTs’ editor wrote thusly in the Horizon Section “Whistleblower revelations of terror threats before the slaying of the U.S. ambassador to Libya likely influenced, if not forced, last week’s decision by the Obama administration to declare the attack on the consulate in Benghazi a terrorist attack”.
Simple Question 1. why is the RTs’ newsperson still promoting the Benghazi attack as having been caused by that American-movie…. a week beyond the ol’ pres’s admission last week?
Simple Question 2. does the RTs editor who penned the above comment actually believe that the Obama administration WAS FORCED by a whistleblower…to tell the American people the truth? Seriously?
It is not Obama or EPA regulations “crushing” coal. It is the price and availability of cleaner natural gas. DUH! It is such a simple research matter that it proves how stupid and “low effort” right wingers who cling to the lie about Obama closing mines, really are.
http://energybiz.com/article/12/07/new-eia-chief-says-coal-hurt-most-cheap-natgas-prices
The new head of the Energy Information Administration (EIA) believes that cheap natural gas prices are hurting coal more in the electric power generation market than tough anti-pollution standards from the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA).”
And not for nothing to the brain trusts in the right wing, but the high price of gas in California is linked to shortages in refining gasoline. So more oil will not translate into more gas. Which is why we export oil now.
http://www.latimes.com/business/money/la-fi-mo-gas-prices-california-record-20121008,0,4435726.story
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-02-29/u-s-was-net-oil-product-exporter-in-2011.html
“The U.S. exported more gasoline, diesel and other fuels than it imported in 2011 for the first time since 1949, the Energy Department said.”
Oil and gas are commodities sold on the open market, unless you are going to nationalize the US oil fields, more oil (put on your lipstick and Drill baby drill!) will not translate into lower gas prices or more gas.
hey sandi,
I agree with your above comment about california gasoline. the libs in California dug their own pit when their elected politians did what they did for the greenies. the libs in California NOW HAVE the gas prices obuma can only dream about the rest of us having.
I’d think there would be lots of happy libs out there, prancing around for joy! eh?
The market is what’s doing in coal. Not the EPA, and not democrats. Jeez, all the right does is whine about the auto industy bailout, but apparently the government should be artificially propping up coal by repressing newer technologies or natural gas.
Frank,
It’s one of the situations, from where I stand, that is a losing proposition no matter how you split it. One side impedes the employment capability of the private industry. The other removes regulation, but hastens the finality of the resource as whole.
MikeC, yep, no disagrement here.
Suzie:
“You’re a dedicated fan, Scamuel. The guy wins 10 games eight season in a row, goes to 19 straight bowls, and you’re ready to throw him out after three losses.”
It’s amazing how people will quickly turn on great coaches. Just watch, a blocked punt or interception in the Duke game and these same people will be chanting that Beamerball is back!
One things for sure, no one can pin Mitt Romney down. He is a Right, left Wing I’ll say anything for a vote dope. You should be proud to support someone with no convictions who is just the opposite of all you have preached about. Until Mitt actually quits flip flop floundering, any ad the Democrats put out is accurate.
I never said Mitt was my first pick. But when the alternative is a Communist, there really isn’t much doubt who to vote for.