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Wednesday, June 19, 2013
THE ROANOKE TIMES
Forgot to comment on Tues or Wed about it, but just wanted to throw out a big thank you to the Roanoke Symphony for the amazing opening night they had on Monday. Every selection they played was perfect for opening night. Also, was glad to hear they are officially debt-free now! Amazing job RSO and Maestro Wiley!
BTW, they have a deal where you pay $9/month and you can attend any concert there all season (with the exception of the two ‘celeb’ concerts they usually put on).
This is cute. A KitchenAid employee who is a member of their “Twitter team” meant to send a Tweet during the debate to his or her personal account and instead sent it to the corporate account. I don’t blame KA for this but, man, does the Tweet show the extreme hatred for Obama that’s out there.
“Obamas gma even knew it was going 2 b bad! ‘She died 3 days b4 he became president’,” the Tweet said.
Sick. Now that person’s career at KA is sort of on hold, although I’d expect that Karl Rove wants to hire him or her.
Can we talk more about the debate. One thread is not enough to cover all of the libs in media who are thrashing Obama today. They are mad because they have covered for this incompetent boob for 5 years and finally he is having to debate a pro. He is lost without his telepromptor and fawning media.
And Dan, don’t I deserve a few props for my accurate analysis of Romney’s drubbing of Obama in my texts to you last night. You affectionately called me “delusional.” Well, it looks like the entire world is delusional today.
More on Todd Akin
http://tinyurl.com/8at4rxn
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Todd Akin failed to report state pension
By ASSOCIATED PRESS | 10/4/12 12:22 PM EDT
JEFFERSON CITY, Mo. (AP) — Republican Senate candidate Todd Akin on Thursday released a decade’s worth of federal financial reports he has updated with nearly $130,000 in state pension income that he received, but failed to disclose, over that time.
“This was an unintentional oversight and I regret any inconvenience this may cause,” the Missouri congressman wrote in a letter dated Tuesday to the chairman of the House Ethics Committee.
Akin’s congressional office released copy of the updated reports Thursday after The Associated Press asked why he had not listed his retirement benefits. In his letter, Akin described the lack of information about his pension payments as a mistake that only recently came to his attention.
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Not much new but timely: http://tinyurl.com/8mpk2m2
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Diss Information: Is There a Way to Stop Popular Falsehoods from Morphing into “Facts”?
False information is pervasive and difficult to eradicate, but scientists are developing new strategies such as “de-biasing,” a method that focuses on facts, to help spread the truth
By Carrie Arnold
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Psychologists call this reaction belief perseverance: maintaining your original opinions in the face of overwhelming data that contradicts your beliefs. Everyone does it, but we are especially vulnerable when invalidated beliefs form a key part of how we narrate our lives. Researchers have found that stereotypes, religious faiths and even our self-concept are especially vulnerable to belief perseverance. A 2008 study in the Journal of Experimental Social Psychology found that people are more likely to continue believing incorrect information if it makes them look good (enhances self-image).
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Although campaigns to counteract misinformation can be difficult to execute, they can be remarkably effective if done correctly. A 2009 study found that an anti-prejudice campaign in Rwanda aired on the country’s radio stations successfully altered people’s perceptions of social norms and behaviors in the aftermath of the 1994 tribally based genocide of an estimated 800,000 minority Tutsi. Perhaps the most successful de-biasing campaign, Maibach notes, is the current near-universal agreement that tobacco smoking is addictive and can cause cancer. In the 1950s smoking was considered a largely safe lifestyle choice—so safe that it was allowed almost everywhere and physicians appeared in ads to promote it. The tobacco industry carried out a misinformation campaign for decades, reassuring smokers that it was okay to light up. Over time opinions began to shift as overwhelming evidence of ill effects was made public by more and more scientists and health administrators.
The most effective way to fight misinformation, ultimately, is to focus on people’s behaviors, Lewandowsky says. Changing behaviors will foster new attitudes and beliefs.
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http://tinyurl.com/8sdltek
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Supreme Court asks for review of LU’s challenge to healthcare act
By: Amy Trent | The News & Advance
Published: October 03, 2012
The U.S. Supreme Court this week asked the Department of Justice for its view on whether Liberty University’s case against the Affordable Care Act should be heard by a federal appeals court.
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The court declined to rule on the case in 2011, and then made its landmark ruling in the spring upholding certain provisions of the ACA.
Liberty Counsel, which is representing LU, said the Supreme Court’s 2012 decision did not rule on its claims that the act infringes on free exercise of religion and the requirement that employers provide health insurance or pay a penalty exceeds legislative authority.
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More behind the scenes: http://tinyurl.com/8akjvev
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Activists Press Corporations to Cut Ties With Presidential Debate Commission
By Janie Lorber
Roll Call Staff
Oct. 3, 2012, 1:18 p.m
Updated, 7:09 p.m.
How did a former Iowa police officer help persuade one of the world’s largest electronics firms to sever ties with America’s presidential debates?
It took only a few emails, according to Rick Stewart, who successfully lobbied Philips North America to drop its support of the Commission on Presidential Debates as part of a campaign to open the debates to third-party candidates.
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Now, with three debates left on the schedule, Stewart and a band of anti-establishment activists are training their sights on three other sponsors – Southwest Airlines Co., Anheuser-Busch Companies Inc. and the International Bottled Water Association.
If enough high-profile companies abandon the commission, the activists hope it will change its criteria for candidate participation and abolish the 20-plus-page contracts detailing strict guidelines for the debates.
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Which major candidate would gain more from opening the debates to third-party candidates?
I’ve been pretty quiet lately due to real life outweighing virtual mouthing off. However, just a toss out to all of you: Gamut’s production of Jean Anouilh’s Antigone opens tonight and runs 4th-6th and 11th-13th. This play is very intriguing given what is going on in American politics now. Many things that are said still ring true and questions raised that need raising. Walk-ins are welcome or make reservations at gamuttheatre@comcast.net. Hope some of you can make it. Trust me, it’s a way better debate than the one we saw last night.
And more: http://tinyurl.com/8oz2zuy
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Web sites lose to Google in race for Obama, Romney campaign ads
By Craig Timberg, Thursday, October 4, 3:24 PM
Don’t expect any ads for President Obama across the top of Prospect.org, the online incarnation of liberal monthly magazine the American Prospect. However warmly editors there may feel about him, it is blocking ads from his campaign as part of a pricing dispute that has pitted many political Web sites — on both the left and right — against their natural ideological allies.
The standoff is an unintended consequence of a broad shift in political advertising this campaign season. More money is going into online ads than ever before, with estimates topping $100 million. But much of this bounty is being distributed through advertising exchanges, such as AOL’s Advertising.com or Google AdSense, that serve as middlemen, bypassing the direct buys that long have been key sources of revenue for Web publications.
The ad exchanges have given campaigns greater precision in targeting voters — 30-something women in swing states who visit parenting Web sites, for example — but the exchanges also take a cut of every buy, leaving less for politically oriented sites in what once was their most lucrative season. They say the trend threatens to starve a diffuse ecosystem of online publications that nurture political conversation.
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Terps texted me 15 minutes into the debate, to ask, “Have you wet your pants yet?” And this was near the end of the first segment, in which Obama cleaned Romney’s clock on Romney’s alleged tax cut plan.
Now Terps is feeling real smug.
Romney has promised Terps that his tax rates will be cut by 20 percent. Then, Romney went on to say that he Terps was going to pay for that tax RATE reduction (and then some) because Terps would have have fewer tax deductions and credits to reduce his adjusted gross income by.
Romney was also telling Terps that Terps is going to be paying MORE in federal income tax dollars. Because not only will Terps have to make up the balance (through curtailed credits and deductions) for his own tax cut, Romneysaid Terps would ALSO have to share in the makeup of the tax cut for the middle class who ARE NOT going to lose their deductions or credits under Romney’s alleged plan. Because that alleged plan is revenue neutral.
To put it simply: Romney told Terps last night that he’s going to be paying more in federal income tax dollars if Romney is elected.
And Terps is smiling broadly today. You know why? There are only two possible explanations:
1) Terps is too dumb to understand the implications of what Romney was saying. I’ve known Terps for a long time and I know very well this cannot be true. He’s not that dense.
OR
2) Terps KNEW Romney was lying. Terps KNOWS Romney was slinging BS about the curtailed credits and deductions for the wealthy. But Terps doesn’t care if Romney’s lying about that, to get elected. Because it’s going to put money in Terps pocket. This is a self interest play, folks.
So terps thinks we should elect Romney because he is a masterdebater?
I saw a great quote this morning:
“Romney says you can have your cakes and lose weight too.”
Romney’s not even a masterdebater. I’m sure that he has never masterdebated before.
obamanews:
obama blames poor debate performance on the fact that he was debating someone who claimed to be Mitt Romney?
After three weeks, FBI finally visits consulate in Libya. Holder said they were investigating somewhere else.
Dan
You sound so bitter. Look on the bright side.
No doubt that you and GDAD were nearly orgasmic when Obama promised everybody their “fair share.” I bet you two thought you were in circa 1922 Russia(with Mark) where every family was awarded 50 sq. feet of living space. Yep, everyone got their “fair share” and everyone lived happily ever after. Why aren’t those stupid Americans buying it?
A SCOTUS case that might have some effect on private sales
http://tinyurl.com/8flyno9
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Your right to resell your own stuff is in peril
It could become illegal to resell your iPhone 4, car or family antiques
By Jennifer Waters, MarketWatch
CHICAGO (MarketWatch) — Tucked into the U.S. Supreme Court’s busy agenda this fall is a little-known case that could upend your ability to resell everything from your grandmother’s antique furniture to your iPhone 4.
At issue in Kirtsaeng v. John Wiley & Sons is the first-sale doctrine in copyright law, which allows you to buy and then sell things like electronics, books, artwork and furniture as well as CDs and DVDs, without getting permission from the copyright holder of those products.
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Both Ammori and Bland worry that a decision in favor of the lower court would lead to some strange, even absurd consequences.
For example, it could become an incentive for manufacturers to have everything produced overseas because they would be able to control every resale.
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If the Supreme Court does rule with the appellate court, it’s likely the matter would be brought to Congress to force a change in law. Until then, however, consumers would be stuck between a rock and a hard place when trying to resell their stuff.
The Supreme Court is scheduled to hear oral arguments on the case on Oct. 29.
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My son in law’s photo made the NPR website. There are other things going on in DC besides politics.
http://www.npr.org/blogs/monkeysee/2012/10/04/162216241/recreating-indiana-jones-boulder-run-in-d-c-s-alley-of-doom
Terps, if Romney is telling the truth, you and I are both going to get a 20 percent tax cut. My deductions/credits won’t be affected. Your will.
I will put money in my pocket from that. And the loss of your deductions and credits will pay for the money in my pocket. YOU are going to be paying for that money.
Of course, that’s all predicated on “if Romney was telling the truth.” You know he was not. So you’re happy. You will profit from it.
#17 Dave Hicks, I was always under the impression that once you buy something, it’s yours to do with as you will. That decision could affect flea markets and yard sales everywhere.
Dan,
Re: 3:43 pm…
You obviously didn’t notice, thru your obamaglasses, that when obama tried to toss out “talking point” lies about Romney’s plans, the obamalies were immediately disproven (leaving obama staring at his shoes, or eye pleading with Lehr for help).
I will give obama credit that he figured out very early in the debate that Romney would not let gratuitous lies go unanswered.
One could see the wheels turning in obama’s head (while he stared at his shoes)
obama thought to himself:
“well, I threw out the economic talking point lie and got bi_ch slapped…” that will cost me millions ‘cause scores of millions will now not believe my tv ads… should I use the 47% lie, or the Baine cap. lie.. or the woman’s parts lie?… nope, better just to count my shoelaces or hope Lehr bails me out, or just lose this lousy debate rather than allow Romney to disprove all of my talking point lies in front of all these people”…
As the debate wore on, and he was losing on every point, one could almost see a bit of consolation in the fact the he was aware he would never lose the vote of the “intelligent thinkers” like the obamaphone lady and the myopic liberals on this blog. Stand fast Dan, you are in great company… keep the hope alive that there is enough ignorance in America that the southern preacher from Hawaii…er… Harvard can BS his way to victory.
Wonder why Dan and a couple others are the only ones that think obama ripped Romney to shreds last night? Michael Moore, Butch Maddow, every major news network, every major political analyst, and nearly every person that is a rational thinker all tend to disagree.
Maybe you three should get your own show?
It turns out that my friend’s husband who they thought might have died of West Nile actually died from one of those bad cortizone shots. So sad.
hey Terps,
ol’ dano just doesn’t know what to do with you!
ol’ dano’s panties started skrunching tight within five seconds following the start of Romney’s first response, and then tightened further after your text to him, and then tightened, and then tightened further all night long. That same pair he was wearing got skrunched so tight, he’s gonna have to cut’en off….but even that’ll take some time, because they have cut in so deep…, eh, dano?
I’ll give it to Romney, that was an Oscar winning performance last night. What an actor! That guy can spin it baby, or better yet, shake it, as in shake the etch-e-sketch. That was lies on the fly.
Yo Frank,
If you and mikeo think Money Boo-Boo won last night you’re both a taco short of a combination plate. The Romney that showed up for the debate is not the same guy on the campaign trail. If anybody should have their shorts in a knot it’s the Ryan conservatives, Mittens just took one giant somersault toward middle ground. Next he’ll be after your guns.
Comment by Debbie — October 4, 2012 @ 4:42 pm
More: http://jolt.law.harvard.edu/articles/pdf/v23.2/23HarvJLTech483.pdf
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SNIP
In the world of consumers, “people want products rather than patents.”
1 The distinction between a product and the intellectual property
embodied within it creates an uneasy tension. The right of a purchaser
to control the downstream sale and use of patented goods without obtaining
consent from the patent owner conflicts with the right of a
patent owner to exclude others from practicing his invention when
selling or using those goods.
The patent exhaustion doctrine, also known as the first sale doctrine,
evolved in the United States during the late nineteenth century
to accommodate the free movement of patented goods in commerce.2
In its simplest statement, the doctrine operates to “exhaust,” or extinguish,
the exclusive rights of sale and use3 as to patented articles sold
with the patent owner’s authorization.4 When the patented article embodies
a clearly defined invention claimed by one patent, and when its
sale features no conditions or restrictions, the patented article emerges
from that sale unencumbered; the patent owner no longer has rights to
exclude activities like resale, ordinary use and repair of the article.
Beneath this simply stated doctrine lurks the complex task of
identifying an authorized sale for the purposes of exhaustion. The task
is particularly complex when the patent owner or his licensee conditions
or restricts the sale of the patented article or when the patented
article comprises many different patented inventions. Over time, the
Supreme Court has addressed these problems obliquely, if at all. During
the first half of the twentieth century, the doctrine also became
entwined with other defenses — such as patent owner misuse and restrictions
in restraint of trade — making it difficult to ascertain the
boundary between patent law and antitrust law.5 Moreover, the Federal
Circuit has held that post-sale restrictions6 prevent a sale from
becoming authorized for the purposes of the exhaustion doctrine, provided
such restrictions are within the scope of the patent owner’s right
to exclude.7 Throughout its life in the lower and appellate courts, the
patent exhaustion doctrine has raised questions regarding the scope of
the exclusive rights granted by patents and the extent to which a patent
owner may extend those rights to control downstream sales of the
patented article.
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http://stlr.stanford.edu/pdf/dong-a-patent-exhaustion-exposition.pdf
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A Patent Exhaustion Exposition:
Situating Quanta v. LGE in the Context
of Supreme Court Jurisprudence
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ABSTRACT
The Supreme Court decided Quanta v. LGE on June 9, 2008, marking the first time the Court had addressed the topic of patent exhaustion in sixty-six years. This paper provides an in-depth analysis of the law of patent exhaustion and analyzes the holding in Quanta in the context of past Supreme Court jurisprudence. In determining when a patent may be exhausted by the sale of a component embodying that patent, Quanta merely followed the test first enunciated by the Court decades ago. Although the Supreme Court in Quanta did determine for the first time that process patents can be exhausted, that conclusion also followed directly from the test for components.
This paper also applies an in-depth analysis of Supreme Court jurisprudence to elucidate questions that Quanta left wide open—to what extent a patent owner can contract around the principles of exhaustion, and what types of remedies are available to those patent owners. The prior case law shows that license restrictions that are within the scope of patent rights have always been allowed. License restrictions that are not within the scope of patent rights, however, are considered patent misuse; attempts to contract around exhaustion through these impermissible restrictions are ineffective, and patent exhaustion applies. Finally, this paper argues that the distinction between restrictions on sale and restrictions on use is likely untenable, and it proposes a rule to determine whether remedies are available in patent law, contract law, or neither.
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http://tinyurl.com/9xppumm
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Is Your Neighbor’s Yard Sale Illegal? Let The Supreme Court Decide
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http://tinyurl.com/9dtp3rr
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Supreme Court to Review Potential Limitations of First-Sale Doctrine
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http://tinyurl.com/8vsrqmn
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Patent exhaustion and self-replicating technologies
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Kristen,
Channel 7 is reporting 30 people at area hospitals with symptoms. Condolences for your friend.
Re: Polls
http://tinyurl.com/8nbxo5u
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Abortion Is Threshold Issue for One in Six U.S. Voters
Nearly as many single-issue abortion voters are pro-choice as pro-life
by Lydia Saad
SNIP [Lots of interesting poll question and results]
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Roanoke Times Pathetic Debate Summary
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http://roanokeslant.blogspot.com/2012/10/roanoke-times-pathetic-debate-summary.html
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25.I’ll give it to Romney, that was an Oscar winning performance last night. What an actor! That guy can spin it baby, or better yet, shake it, as in shake the etch-e-sketch. That was lies on the fly.
Comment by Bill Perdue — October 4, 2012 @ 6:11 pm
Typical liberal L Y P O C R I S Y. Romney is a Winner, a decent human being and a good man. You cry lies but provide no details or support for the claim…just like Obama did with his Loser effort.
I am dismayed by Lypocrisy. I believe that the USA is in for difficult times irregardless of who is elected in NOV. It will take all of us, working together to hold it together.
What Romney proposes are the right steps; certainly the steps that have been recently taken are not working; neither are 23 million Americans.
How can you support a candidate when you honestly do not know who he is or where he came from? The Lypocrisy he spread in the 2008 election has been proven. Fast & Furious, Libya, Solyndra, Delphi, GM, DOJ, DHS, GSA are all scandals, corruption and/or crimes which are, in fact, REAL.
Socialism, Communism, Sharia, Death Panels, Overwhelming Debt, Class Warfare, Redistribution and Dependency are social evils which this administration seems to embrace; all of which are bad for America.
In NOV do the right thing; VOTE in the best interest of America.
“Have some bread.” For those of you who avoid gluten, whether by choice or not:
NBC’s “Rock Center” has a segment tonight (now) about gluten free diets.
The truth has never been acknowledged by our President. What truths has he uttered? No lobbyists on my staff? How long did that last? Cut the deficit in half. President you are working some fuzzy math. Obamacare will cut insurance premiums? Laugh riot. Usually on this blog there are the pinko lefties talking about how Romney has no specifics and now somehow they know exactly the amount of tax cuts of Romney’s plan. I thought the President was uninspired and went out and dribbled the ball back to the pitcher twice and struck out on three pitches twice. Even the moron Chris Matthews thought the President got owned. Face it owned. Funny when the Prez has to talk policy instead of hope and change or class envy.
Rope-A-Dope folks..
This us not a one round fight..
not only that..
this can put Rove in a bad position.
Now they cant pull Romney money and spend
it down ticket..they see a glimmer..
Its apparent Rove and his money boys are
the ones with their knickers in a twist.
#23 I’m so sorry, Kristen. Scary stuff when you start getting contaminated medication.
From FDL, The Old Razzle Dazzle.
WHAT WHINY SCARED LIBBIES….
I’m sorry for your friend, Kristen. It is sad.
“Socialism, Communism, Sharia, Death Panels, Overwhelming Debt, Class Warfare, Redistribution and Dependency are social evils which this administration seems to embrace; all of which are bad for America.”
Speaking of lies^^^^
#23- A guy from my church and youth basketball coach went to the ER yesterday for it. Has 2 stepkids 10 and 7, and two of his own 3 and a Newborn. What a scary thing. Hopefully the manufacturer will take care of all these people without legal action.
I bet Romney would make a super off-shore tax haven salesman!!
#32 Thanks for pointing that out, dobbs. But as you know, going GF hasn’t stopped me from aging. One thing I fear is that if too many folks take this up as a fad, then some folks won’t realize or will forget that there are those of us who HAVE to eat this way to stay alive.
What ever it takes to get Obama out of the White House. Heis bad for America. The business of this country is business and we need a business man at the helm. Business cannot grow under an Obama administration
What is good foe the “middle class” is growing business and a strong GDP.
CNN’s resident whinnying whining resident airhead Soledad 0brien was doing her best to prop up Idiot Boy today. Unemployment numbers came in at 7.8%, and this morning her guest was a Harvard economics professor, Paul somebody. It’s too early to provide the transcript, but I’ll paraphrase the interview, it went pretty much like this:
Airhead Soledad: “Professor, the unemployment rate dropped to 7.8%. This is fantastic news, isn’t it?”
Harvard Professor: “Not really, More people have dropped out of the workforce, so the effect is really about the same. It’s a wash.”
Airhead Soledad: “But, Professor, isn’t it a good sign the number is going down?”
Harvard Professor: “It doesn’t feel different to the American worker since a number of people have given up looking for work.”
Airhead Soledad: “Well, I would think it would make a huge psychological difference, the rate dropping below 8%”
Harvard Professor: “Perhaps, but it doesn’t really mean anything. Nothing has really changed.”
Airhead Soledad’s Wrap Up: “OK, so it will be interesting to see the political ramifications of this big drop in unemployment. This is huge news and people will be talking about it”
I’m sure Soledad was seething at the professor afterward for not playing ball. Rest assured he won’t be asked back to CNN.
News is that the unemployment rate has dropped to 7.8%. Job growth for August was revised upwards to 142,000 jobs from the prior @ of 96,000. New jobs added in September totalled 114,000. Not all that we wanted but headed in the right direction.
Thank you all, I’ll convey your thoughts to my friend. She and her 2 children are having a rough time right now, understandably.
“37.WHAT WHINY SCARED LIBBIES….
Comment by pammala — October 5, 2012 @ 4:36 am”
Methinks pammallala fell into the fridge where they keep the 40s and couldn’t climb out.
“A guy from my church and youth basketball coach went to the ER yesterday for it. Has 2 stepkids 10 and 7, and two of his own 3 and a Newborn. What a scary thing. Hopefully the manufacturer will take care of all these people without legal action.”
Let’s hope he’s OK, PP.
#37 Dang, pammalamadingdong, at least you’re outside of suzie’s loser window this time. Whew.
“Tricke Down Government” was the best line of the debate. I don’t understand how you libs can say Obmas direction for the country works. I belive in less regulation less taxation less federal government and a stronger envirament for business. That’s what I believe and I’m sticking to it.
“CNN’s resident whinnying whining resident airhead Soledad 0brien was doing her best to prop up Idiot Boy today. Unemployment numbers came in at 7.8%, and this morning her guest was a Harvard economics professor, Paul somebody. It’s too early to provide the transcript, but I’ll paraphrase the interview, it went pretty much like this:
Airhead Soledad: “Professor, the unemployment rate dropped to 7.8%. This is fantastic news, isn’t it?”
Harvard Professor: “Not really, More people have dropped out of the workforce, so the effect is really about the same. It’s a wash.”
It’s not a wash. The problem with the professor’s argument is that 1) if you take the numbers of unemployed/looking and unemployed/dropped out of the workforce today and you compare THAT to the total of both categories in August 2009, the total is lower today.
And, oh my, it must be a bitter pill to swallow for the RWers that official unemployment has dipped below 8 percent.
They were hoping dearly it would stay higher. Screw the country — all they care about is the election.
“Tricke Down Government” was the best line of the debate. I don’t understand how you libs can say Obmas direction for the country works. I belive in less regulation less taxation less federal government and a stronger envirament for business. That’s what I believe and I’m sticking to it.”
“Trickle down government” was a good line. But so was “under Gov. Romney’s definition of ‘small business,’ Donald Trump is a small business.”
Somewhere in Manhattan, a certain appendage was shrinking into nothingness as Obama uttered that one.
hey dano, giving the tragectory, you libs have nothing to fret about regarding unemployment. all you need is for unemployment to dip below 7% for October, and obama’s in like flint.
here’s an idea: why not just report the number of unemployment checks issued each week, and go from there?
Michael A Howdyshell says:
What ever it takes to get Obama out of the White House.
Michael,
So the end justifies the means? Is it ok for Mitt to lie so long as Obama isn’t te-elected?
I love how ol’ Dano knows better than that silly professor of economics from that stupid Harvard place…
Michael A Howdyshell says:
What ever it takes to get Obama out of the White House.
Michael,
So the end justifies the means? Is it ok for Mitt to lie so long as Obama isn’t te-elected?
Comment by Bill Perdue — October 5, 2012 @ 10:20 am
Obama is a pathological and criminal liar…Obama lied, Hispanics died.
What’s good for the goose is good for the gander. Absolutely. Obama has
got to go!
I guess this is a lie too: “The labor force participation rate, which has been in steady decline since 2008 as discouraged, unemployed workers have given up their search for work and left the labor force, actually ticked up slightly this month to 63.6 percent from last month’s reading of 63.5 percent.”
Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/labor-force-participation-rate-2012-10#ixzz28R2T49BF
And this has to be just a typo, or maybe this Weisenthal dude is in on it:
“…if you UNSKEW* today’s jobs data (as is the hot trend these days) you actually see an addition of 574K new jobs.
By Unskewed, we’re talking about non-seasonally adjusted data.
That’s far above the official, seasonally adjusted 114K new jobs reported by the BLS.”
Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/heres-what-the-jobs-report-looks-like-unskewed-2012-10#ixzz28R3FcGHK
Dan is going to talk labor numbers now? Well if the labor participation rate was the same as it was on the President’s inauguration day unemployment would be at almost 11%. Total looking is lower? Roanoke Times must not fact check this dud. Oh it is getting so much better. We have the new normal of $4 gas, $2.50 bread, $4 milk, $4 cereal, lower earnings. We have added $6,000,000 to the debt and we are not even back to where we started with this guy. Time for a change. No RW’er roots for people to not succeed. That would be the democrat party who hopes to get you into a handout program so you will vote for them.
#54 According to quite a few right wingers around here, Harvard is just a worthless commie liberal school that teaches nothing useful. I assume from your post that you disagree, matt?
News is that the unemployment rate has dropped to 7.8%. Job growth for August was revised upwards to 142,000 jobs from the prior @ of 96,000. New jobs added in September totalled 114,000. Not all that we wanted but headed in the right direction.
It’s fake, Ron. 0bama had to drop a million from the labor force to arrive at that contrived number. The total number employed has dropped since the idiot took office. If we used the same figure for number of jobs available as in 2008, it would be 11% unemployed today. The lying Democrats have manipulated the parameters in order to reach this 7.8% unemployment. They count on undiscerning Oprah-watching suckers like you to accept their word at face value.
Frank, ‘In Like Flint’ is a pretty good movie, but the expression is ‘in like Flynn’. Screwzie can explain to you who Flynn is.
Good catch, Contra. Got my Flints and Flynns transposed. In like Flint was/is a good movie, Flynn was just an actor.
“shrinking into nothingness as Obama ST-Stuttered that one.” – Dan
Fixed it for ya, Dan.
Aww, Art. I’m sorry. I read your link and I bet the author really had a rough evening hearing all his/her heroes telling the truth that obama had failed:
“I was unable to watch the debate, last night, a fact for which I now feel oddly grateful. Watching MSNBC immediately afterwards, I already got to experience the sincere disappointment of Rachel Maddow, the bombastic outrage of Chris Matthews, and the deflated fighting spirit of Ed Schulz. All agreed that Obama had failed to deal Romney the knockout blow he so richly deserved.”
Hey James S, ..but….., we’ve got obama-phones out there to cushion the fall…..
Cereal has always been expensive, and it’s generally sugary crap. Don’t buy it. Kroger is full of Kroger brand bread for a buck. We have the cheapest food in the world in this country. As for prices on most grain based foods check they “Hey,global warming’s a liberal myth!” drought in the midwest this summer.
On the other hand, beef prices are down because farmers had to sacrifice their cattle at a low price because they couldn’t afford to feed them. And none of these weather-based food issues have anything to do with Obama. As for gas prices, Google “petroleum speculation”. You’re welcome.
Wow! Why are there guys in the Homecoming Court? Yes Bill whatever it takes for the future of our way of life.
Do you right wingers ever feel bad that so much of life, knowledge and intellect has passed you by?
Hey dano, in the scheme of things, I haven’t heard the loud squeal of delight out of any fence-sitters who NOW are gonna vote for the lib….after they heard of the …., biggest drop in like 30 years…, in the unemployment rate.
that irony isn’t lost on the folks who are not already in the tank for the lib.
the facts remain. too many people are out of jobs and can’t find work….and those folks know by now that all the libs can do is give’m unemployment (maybe), soak the rich, and give betty all the rubbers she wants…but NO jobs. The people do want to work, rather than get a handout.
none of these weather-based food issues have anything to do with Obama.
Actually….yeah, they do. When it costs five bucks to drive across town and back, imagine the cost to ship food across the state or across the country. And it’s all because we are forced to kiss up to OPEC. Not allowed to drill here and reduce worldwide demand you know. 0bama and the global-warming kooks won’t let us.
Suzie Q,
You should really try to get some facts before you open your mouth. Note below–”oil imports have dropped 1/3 since 2005.” “For the first time since 1949 the U.S. is a net exporter of products made from oil.” In other words SuzieQ we are importing less oil, but the oil companies are exporting the refined products from that increased production to offshore markets. Worldwide demand for refined oil products is growing. That usually means prices for those products will increase.
“Given America’s new oil rush, it would seem the best of times for gas prices. But with $4-per-gallon sticker shock, it might feel like the worst of times.
How can this be?
The question is all the more perplexing, because the United States is not only producing more crude oil but also using less of it. As a result, net oil imports have dropped a third since 2005.”
“Federal laws do not generally allow crude oil that’s produced in the U.S. to be exported but permit the export of refined products that come from it — such as gasoline, diesel and jet fuel. Last year, for the first time since 1949, the U.S. became a net exporter of these products. Most gasoline exports go from Gulf Coast refineries to Latin America, where demand is booming.”
Here’s the link to the entire article. Read it and be informed.
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/us-oil-production-gas-prices-high/story?id=16186002
“Not allowed to drill here and reduce worldwide demand you know.”
I’m sorry, but LOL. Do you know anything at all about the petroleum market?
69. Suzie – you are back in the oil crisis of 1974 and 2008. You should catch up. We drill much more oil in the US than ever. If you want to know why oil prices are high, ask the Koch brothers why their refineries keep breaking down, catching fire, needing to close for upgrades.
Also, always interesting how the Koch brothers own the heavy oil refineries in Texas and the tar sands oil in Canada and how they want to build the Keystone pipeline between the two. Buying an election to get their pipeline? Your kind of politics, Susie.
Yo, Frank,
What is your infantile obsession with “Betty and her rubbers?”
Richard, the Keystone pipeline is being built as we speak. TransCanada crews are clearing right-of-way acquired by eminent domain in Texas. Darryl Hannah recently got busted standing in front of one of their dozers.
hey artie, are you serious? obuma thought that getting her (that would be “betty”…women… get it?) all the free rubbers she wants was more important than jobs.
#69: “drill here and reduce worldwide demand”
Poster #69 thinks that increasing supply reduces demand.
What a stupid poster.
If you want to know why oil prices are high, ask the Koch brothers why their refineries keep breaking down, catching fire, needing to close for upgrades.
Yeah, if only the environmental nuts who run California would allow more refineries to be built.