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Friday, May 24, 2013
THE ROANOKE TIMES
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/20/arthur-allen_n_1992370.html
Y’all Rmoney supporters on here, no offense, but Rmoney wouldn’t notice you if he had to scrape you off of his shoe. Or pay someone to scrape you off his shoe. That CEOs of major corporations are so friggen invested in getting him elected should indicate for even the dimmest among you that you will be of negative value if he’s allowed in office.
The 99.9%ers among us supporting Rmoney are the most useful of useful idiots.
hey, anybody see the rasmussen poll out this morning? …lookin’ good for Romney…!
Hey Frank:
Have you seen the IBD/TIPP Presidential Daily [Investors] Tracking Poll?
Oct. 19, 2012
Obama: +1.7
Obama 46.5% | Romney 44.8%
! Obama widened his lead over Romney among likely voters.
! Romney’s lead among male voters shrank to just 2 points from 5 points two days ago.
! Among those describing themselves as “conservative,” just 69% said they were voting for Romney — versus 73% just two days earlier.
! Likewise, Romney lost a bit of support among those calling themselves “upper income,” with that cohort now in a dead heat, down from a 5-point edge for Romney on Wednesday.
! Romney also remained knotted with Obama among Catholic voters, who make up just under a third of the total.
http://news.investors.com/special-report/508415-ibdtipp-poll.aspx#ixzz29r8jvrkR
Pay attention here…this is not playing favorites with a MLB or NFL team.This is an election that will be a major game changer for the 99% if Romney gets elected. As Kristen above says…why would all the $$$ class spend so much? They’ll get a big return on their investment…that’s why. Also,The Repugs dirty election tricks are already being perpetrated on us. It’s on the news, a fellow was caught throwing absentee ballots into a dumpster in Harrisonburg. This group-Stategic Allied Consulting,that he works for is also under investigation in Fla.for voter fraud. You’d be shocked at what you can read if you look this up.
hey Shrill, yeah, your guy’s got it all tied up. no worries on your part. I’m just sayin, have ya seen Rasmussin ….today?
http://signon.org/sign/nullify-the-vote-count.fb23?source=s.icn.fb&r_by=5442810
Rmoney caught with his hands in the cookie jar again. Sign the petition for this to be investigated, please.
@Stephen sivonda, the man was arrested for throwing away voter registrations not absentee ballots.
Baby steps, but important steps…
The movement to amend the Constitution to overturn Citizens United, declare that money is not speech and corporations are
not people received a big boost on Thursday.
The New Jersey State Assembly signed on to a resolution expressing “strong opposition” to Citizens United and called on Congress to amend the Constitution to get rid of the ruling. New Jersey now becomes the ninth state to support amending the Constitution to prevent corporations, millionaires, and billionaires from buying our elections.
Already, California, Connecticut, Maryland, Massachusetts, Hawaii, New Mexico, Rhode Island, and Vermont have adopted similar resolutions.
http://truth-out.org/news/item/12221-on-the-news-with-thom-hartmann-new-jersey-becomes-the-ninth-state-to-call-for-an-end-to-citizens-united-and-more
Very well said Kristen
There’s been a lot of discussion about the EPA and the coal industry. Somehow, those who want the government out of their lives want the gevernment to subsidize the coal industry. The truth is that natural gas is cheaper and we have lots of it. We need to use it to generate power amongst other options. States like Virginia, West Virginia, Kentucky, Indiana and many others with important coal industries should have started years ago to move in a different direction. Instead of retraining coal miners to other work options, they chose to demonize other forms of industry which were challenging the coal industry. So much for competition that drives capitalism.
In case you are wondering what Mitt Romney would do if president read the article linked below. The House of Representatives has laid out the agenda. It’s not pretty.
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/mitt-romneys-real-agenda-20120928
Everybody click on the link Ron notes above. Thanks, Ron!
yo, all you libs…
What’s up with obama’s campaign having to borrow $15 million from Bank of America? I know what’s up with that. Despite the campaign already raising like a gazilion dollars (and spending like a gazilion dollars plus some…)…he went through that like a sharp knife goes through soft butter!
Obuma’s campaign is a replica of how he spends our tax dollors! Heck, I bet he’s already reached his limit from China!
@11 &12,
Guys, put down the joint and get your “news” somewhere other than Rolling Stone.
The House of Representatives actions do not exactly equate to Romney’s agenda.
I’ve heard that Democrats are angling for a new cabinet post after Obama is re-elected. It is Secretary of the Republicans. In that post, they’ll appoint the biggest right-wing jerk they can find, so that person can take jerkdom to new heights over the next four years, in the full view of the nation.
Frank is on here campaigning for that post — he knows O is gonna win!
Wife and I had dinner at Pho Saigon this evening. Excellent meal served steaming hot with fresh Thai basil, sprouts, and sliced Jalapenos on the side. Several new vegetarian dishes on the menu along with the old favorites, the service was fast and friendly. Highly recommended for those who enjoy Vietnamese cuisine.
well dannyboy they’ll SOMEONE with intelligence !!
well dannyboy they’ll NEED SOMEONE with intelligence !!
11 from the rolling rag no less…hahahahahaha, what a joke.
Hey Ron, I’m on my phone and cannot click on your link.
What political or newsworthy website is your link from that is stating what the House of Representatives has laid out? Must be a fairly credible, Capitol Hill involved website I bet.
Gomer would be a natural for thr the job. But he’d have some tough competition from little mattie and Suzie. But I think the real candidates would be Jeff the Dodo and pamallamadingbat.
#19 Dammit, Dan, you’ve got to hide MMM’s phone better than that.
oh wow, dano, it took you all day to come up with THAT? Sheesh.
Seriously. Question: Why do ya suppose obuma is having to BORROW money?
Answer: ’cause that’s what he does. He’s a one track mind.
“Roanoke hurt by Norfolk Southern’s 200 layoffs”
FROM RT
AND POOR STUPID DANNY THINKS WE ARE IN A RECOVERY
Frank,
How about another “seriously question,” Frank. The other was so entertaining.
Rolling Stone is a great publication, and that is a great article. RS is a lot more credible than Fox News, the Washington Times, CNS News or The Examiner.
What, does the Rolling Stone believe that the Black Panthers are fictional as well ? Maybe they`ll interview James O`Keefe OR Karl Rove to get the story.
#21…Dave …Glad to see that my posts from 14 hours earlier continued to reside inside that mind of your`n.
#28 Dolto, the Black Panthers haven’t been around as an organization in ages.
good morning, dano.
It looks like gdad let you borrow his pea-shooter! Hey, I know… You two guys can be the leaders of the pea-shooter brigade!
Jeff the Dodo
Your posts are frequently enough to cause nightmares in intelligent people for days on end. It is frightening that people with your mindset actually exist in America abd go to the polls to vote.
Is there anyone here who actually thinks Gomer’s (er Franks) continuing schtick in which he represents himself as a hayseed from the Andy Griffith Show gives him credibility or creates respect for the silliness which he posts. He does rarely shift off from that character and become more of the Fonz with an occasional “yo”. As if that would be an improvement!. Clearly, he either wants to be seen as a caricature or he’s too damn dumb to know what he’s doing to himself.
Jeff Doto reminds me of Steve Nelson, who I banned from this blog because he was repetitious and boring.
I thought he got banned for being stark raving insane.
#31 And now we’ve got Frank obsessed with his “pea shooter.” I think we can guess why.
Dan
Few have been more repititious and boring than Gomer (er Frank) with his interminable posts on Benghazi which he clearly doesn’t understand. It weould be instructive to know how many posts he has made on that single subject.
The whole RWer schtick about Benghazi is such a fraud, and so much jackassery. There was a crisis, for Pete’s sake. Not all of the information was available in the middle of that crisis, little of it had been subject to good analysis, and some of the info that was available was bad intel. The administration tried to make what what known/believed public, so now they’re getting hammered by the RWers for that. If they had refrained, and NOT made it know, the RWers would have screamed they were covering up. It was a lose-lose setup from the get-go.
Kristen@10:54
There was that too!
A month ago if you’d asked Frank what “Benghazi” meant he’d have told you it was an Italian race car. Now, he’s an expert!
Dan
And now Issa the Pissa has dumped a whole load of documents onto the public, put them out in the wrong orfer in which they occurred in order to make it appear that there was some conspiracy to withhold minformation, and has exposed the names of Libyans who were working for us, endangering their lives and obstructing national security. And he’s done it only because that’s the marching orfers from the RNC and the Romney campaign as a way to buy a few votes. He should be charged with obstruction of justice and treason.
Not all of the information was available in the middle of that crisis, little of it had been subject to good analysis, and some of the info that was available was bad intel.
So why did the 0bama administration vehemently deny it was a terrorist attack at first?
You clowns are pretty bold lying when the video is so easily available. Oh, that’s right. Oprah-watchers don’t bother to check.
14.@11 &12,
Guys, put down the joint and get your “news” somewhere other than Rolling Stone.
The House of Representatives actions do not exactly equate to Romney’s agenda.
Comment by Big Momma — October 20, 2012 @ 10:13 pm
Big Momma others, what you can’t handle is the truth of the Rolling Stone article. You can’t attack the argument so you attack the source. Why do you think Mitt Romney chose Paul Ryan as his VP candidate instead of say, Sen. Portman of Ohio. It was his signal to the right wing of the Party what his agenda would be as president. He did that despite his need to win Ohio in the election.
The Republican Party, if it wins this election, intends to take this country back more than 100 years in time. That’s a time before women had the right to vote. It’s before women had many rights at all. Additionally, it was a time when children were treated even worse than women. You might say, “Oh they would never do that.” Well you would be wrong.
I’m not overly crazy about Pres. Obama, but I am willing to choose him and other moderates over the vision Mitt Romney, Paul Ryan, Mr. Boehner, Sen. McConnell, the Koch brothers and countless other billionaires.
Ron
I think that is the right direction for our country, not the direction Mr. Obama is leading us. I hope Romney slams the president on his apolagetuc foreign policey. Time to remember we are The United States of America, the mist powerful country in the history of the world and start acting like it
DESPERATION ON THE LEFT IS AT AN ALL-TIME HIGH…WATCH THE LITTLE RATS SCURRY AS THE WATER RISES….THE SAME WATER obama SAID HE WOULD CAUSE TO RECEDE….And they beleived him…truly pathetic.
BM is real cute when she can’t argue against substance. “Put down the joint!”
Ha, ha.
Michael,
As a student of history you should understand why we don’t need to take this country back to the days of the late 19th or early 20th century.
Ron May: “The Republican Party, if it wins this election, intends to take this country back more than 100 years in time. That’s a time before women had the right to vote. It’s before women had many rights at all. Additionally, it was a time when children were treated even worse than women”
Micheal Howdyshell: “Ron, I think that is the right direction for our country”
Other than simply wow, the only things I can say about Micheal’s statement are that it speaks very poorly about the UT history department’s standards for graduation, and it reminds us of how even very mediocre minds can still do well in this country if they have started from a position of privilege and had additional advantages handed to them, like Micheal has.
Rmoney/Ryan…Protecting Unearned Privilege Since 2012!!!
Just fyi but the polls are swinging back in Obama’s direction. Perhaps he can push that a little more with Monday night’s debate. And with some more Bain ads.
Speaking of those, here’s another little nugget from that great magazine, Rolling Stone, whose journalistic standards are way higher than Fox News, the Washington Times, the WSJ editorial page, CNSnews and The Examiner:
“Mitt Romney likes to say he won’t “apologize” for his success in business. But what he never says is “thank you” – to the American people – for the federal bailout of Bain & Company that made so much of his outsize wealth possible.
According to the candidate’s mythology, Romney took leave of his duties at the private equity firm Bain Capital in 1990 and rode in on a white horse to lead a swift restructuring of Bain & Company, preventing the collapse of the consulting firm where his career began. When The Boston Globe reported on the rescue at the time of his Senate run against Ted Kennedy, campaign aides spun Romney as the wizard behind a “long-shot miracle,” bragging that he had “saved bank depositors all over the country $30 million when he saved Bain & Company.”
In fact, government documents on the bailout obtained by Rolling Stone show that the legend crafted by Romney is basically a lie. The federal records, obtained under the Freedom of Information Act, reveal that Romney’s initial rescue attempt at Bain & Company was actually a disaster – leaving the firm so financially strapped that it had “no value as a going concern.” Even worse, the federal bailout ultimately engineered by Romney screwed the FDIC – the bank insurance system backed by taxpayers – out of at least $10 million. And in an added insult, Romney rewarded top executives at Bain with hefty bonuses at the very moment that he was demanding his handout from the feds.”
Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-federal-bailout-that-saved-mitt-romney-20120829#ixzz29xoro4Ar
Ron
I want the USA to be the dominentent world power. Its our way or the highwsy. Peace through strength. It appears President Obama believes we should cater to the rest of the world. We are the world leader,. Warren, what you are telling me is if someone disagrees with your vision for America you resort to personal attacks. I don’t insult individuals I attack ideas. While I respect yours Dans and others views they do not align with my vision for this country. I don’t believe that makes me or others stupid but who knows maybe I’m wrong.
Just fyi but the polls are swinging back in Obama’s direction.
That’s just not the case. Romney has pulled out of NC and has hit the 50% mark in VA. Now 0bama has to answer all the Libya questions on Monday.
hey Ron May,
I used to think you were one of the smarter libs posting on dano’s blog. However, after reading your post #43, I’m gonna have to open up the competition for that category. In fact, it makes me now think there aren’t ANY “thinking” libs on ol’ dano’s blog, just kool-aid drinkers. Period. Well, at least you can take a good picture or two…, or, did you photo-shop that tree?
“start acting like it”
Four more wars!! Nuttyshell is a Neocon, who knew?
And another Rolling Stone’s article because I know the RWers love that source:
This week in Rolling Stone – the greedy, unpatriotic elitist Romney is explained:
“Mitt Romney’s Tax Dodge”
A guide to how the multimillionaire twists the law to hide his massive fortune – and avoid paying his fair share in taxes
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/mitt-romney-s-tax-dodge-20121012
That’s just not the case. Romney has pulled out of NC and has hit the 50% mark in VA. Now 0bama has to answer all the Libya questions on Monday.
It indeed is true. As of 5:18 p.m Sunday the Real Clear Politics average had Obama ahead of Romney by 0.2%
That’s the one, endorsed by Terps, that we pay attention to here.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_romney_vs_obama-1171.html
My guess is we haven’t heard the last on Mitt’s tax returns. Can you say “surprise?”
I love the people who cite Bretbart dissing Rolling Stone.
hey dano,
You’re grasping at straws. Are those the ones you and gdad use for pea-shooters?
Michael,
Do you believe the U.S. is not the dominant military power in the world today? What has it done for us? Do we really believe we are going to be attacked by some other nation?
It is apparent that you believe that we should impose our will on any other country in the world. Just since 2002 that attitude has cost us more than 2 trillion dollars, thousands of dead soldiers, 10s of thousands of wounded soldiers, uncountable numbers of dead civilians in Iraq & Afghanistan, and has made us the target of Al Quaida and other such groups. In my lifetime our country has fought in Korea, Vietnam, two wars in Iraq, Afghanistan and countless smaller skirmishes.
President Dwight Eisenhower warned us, in his farewell speech, against the development of a military/industrial complex that would rule this nation. He was correct and we have ignored his advice.
We are paying the price for ignoring Ike and our children & grandchildren will too if we go the route you propose.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y06NSBBRtY
Frank,
This will likely surprise you and many others on this blog, but I am a registered Republican and have been all my adult life. As I think I have said before on this blog, the Republican Party has left me. It has made clear that moderates like me have no place in their party. The link below makes it clear that I’m not the only Republican in that group. Ronald Reagan, Sen. Chuck Hagel, Sen. Richard Lugar, Sen. John Danforth, Gerald Ford, Nelson Rockefeller and countless other staunch Republicans feel deserted by their party.
That photo was taken with my cell phone. What you see is what you get!
http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2012/05/14/484052/republican-hagel-reagan/?mobile=nc
“President Dwight Eisenhower warned us, in his farewell speech, against the development of a military/industrial complex that would rule this nation. He was correct and we have ignored his advice.
We are paying the price for ignoring Ike and our children & grandchildren will too if we go the route you propose. ”
Eisenhower was a REAL Republican, and he was also one who far better understood the horrors, damage and waste (in many different respects) of war than many of the chickenhawks who followed him under the party banner.
0bama is the biggest first-term war monger in 40 years. How bout that, leftwing “pacifist” hypocrites. Better check your own backyard first.
“Obama is the biggest first-term war monger in 40 years. How bout that, leftwing “pacifist” hypocrites. Better check your own backyard first.”
As usual, you’re delusional.
Dan,
SuzieQ is just upset that I’m a Republican. Additionally, she can’t handle the fact that Obama is still trying to clean up GWB’s mess and pay for the trillions of dollars he, GWB, spent on Iraq & Afghanistan.
Micheal, I didn’t call you stupid. I said that despite your UT degree, you show no better than a mediocre mind, which puts you among the many millions, including myself and most Congressmen, who are much better than stupid but far from exceptional. It’s the middle of the bell curve, and within that I respect you as best I can of someone with such a strong preference for simplistic thinking and jingoistic ideas. And if you read closely, the point I was using “mediocre” to make was that your sons’ daddy is an affirmative action recipient, yet doesn’t seem to want others to get as much help as he’s needed to succeed.
As for Rmoney’s neo-con Bush foreign policy team, remind Mrs. Howdyshell that there’s still plenty of time after 2016 for her boys to be killed trying to bully other countries and steal their resources through war, as you’ve said you support. Just don’t expect any Rmoney or Bush grandsons to share such a fate, though.
@52. frank. You are definitely in the running for most erudite Neocon posting on Dan’s Blog. Congrats!
As usual, you’re delusional.
Somebody name me a first-term president under whom more America soldiers killed in a war the past 40 years than under 0bama.
And President Theodore Roosevelt warned us about the problem that corporate interest money in politics would give us. Both he and Eisenhower were the last of the real Republicans in this nation. The right wing reign has ruined a once proud party.
http://teachingamericanhistory.org/library/index.asp?document=501
For people who believe they are winning, you right wingers sound more and more unhinged. So what if you win another Nixon like landslide, you still have Romney as the leader of the free world and your idiots in Congress. That will not mark an era of progress for this nation. At least not our end of it. I cannot congratulate you on hurting this nation any more than I can agree with your delusional posts. I can thank God that Romney will not govern as you believe he will. Small, cold comfort, but should the awful happen, it is better than the notion that any of you are right.
Re: Comment by Dan Casey — October 21, 2012 @ 6:10 pm
Eisenhower was a REAL Republican, and he was also one who far better understood the horrors, damage and waste (in many different respects) of war than many of the chickenhawks who followed him under the party banner.
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Yup! Right on target.
Re: Comment by Sandi Saunders — October 21, 2012 @ 6:55 pm
And President Theodore Roosevelt warned us about the problem that corporate interest money in politics would give us. Both he and Eisenhower were the last of the real Republicans in this nation. The right wing reign has ruined a once proud party.
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And again.
Yup! Right on target.
And RCP doesn’t factor in VA the two other candidates running – Virgil Goode or Johnson. Even if they pull 1 or 2% from Romney that may be the kiss of death for his win…
Also from the speech, which Sandi cited:
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“Labor is prior to, and independent of, capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration.”
If that remark was original with me, I should be even more strongly denounced as a Communist agitator than I shall be anyhow. It is Lincoln’s. I am only quoting it; and that is one side; that is the side the capitalist should hear. Now, let the working man hear his side.
“Capital has its rights, which are as worthy of protection as any other rights. . . . Nor should this lead to a war upon the owners of property. Property is the fruit of labor; . . . property is desirable; is a positive good in the world.”
And then comes a thoroughly Lincoln-like sentence:
“Let not him who is houseless pull down the house of another, but let him work diligently and build one for himself, thus by example assuring that his own shall be safe from violence when built.”
It seems to me that, in these words, Lincoln took substantially the attitude that we ought to take; he showed the proper sense of proportion in his relative estimates of capital and labor, of human rights and property rights. Above all, in this speech, as in many others, he taught a lesson in wise kindliness and charity; an indispensable lesson to us of today. But this wise kindliness and charity never weakened his arm or numbed his heart. We cannot afford weakly to blind ourselves to the actual conflict which faces us today. The issue is joined, and we must fight or fail.
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Delusional, Obama did not start the war he ended nor the one he will end by 2014. No doubt you wanted Bush to cut and run after sacrificing American treasure and money too, but that is just the typical delusional right wing brain.
Over 17,000 troop deaths happened under Saint Reagan…Please do not pretend only combat and war is “dangerous” to the troops!
http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/deaths.asp
http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/natsec/RL32492.pdf
What’s delusional about Suzie’s question is the premise, aka the arbitrary lines she draws with her “in the past 40 years.”
What’s delusional about Suzie’s question is the premise, aka the arbitrary lines she draws with her “in the past 40 years.”
Aren’t these leftwingers a hoot? They cursed George W. Bush for being a war monger, and here their pacifist hero 0bama is a bigger war monger than Bush at the same point in his presidency.
Where are all the peacenik nuts like we saw in 2004? Where are the Cindy Sheehan’s camping out in front of 0bama’s ill-gotten Chicago mansion?
Don’t be fooled, Romney’s plan for fixing the economy includes yet another war in the Middle East. The same Neocons that tricked a gullible Bush into Iraq are now advising the Mittster. Watch for their hawkish foreign policy views in tomorrow night’s debate.
Wow. Sandi Saunders is saying Clinton and Carter were bigger military killers than GWBush. Who knew?
Dave Hicks, it is, in its entirety a Great speech. Not just a good speech, not just a prescient speech, but a truly great speech. Theodore Roosevelt is surely one of the top five in any “Greatest President” list.
most ill-informed @67 how disingenuous of you using the old RW trick of false equivalency…
Of course in your quest to distort the truth you want to set up a false comparison of “first term” – did you fail to note that GW Bush invaded Iraq in 2003, three years into his “first term” – was that purposeful or out of ignorance?
Here are years and deaths in Iraq and Afghanistan during the Bush years – 4852 died during Bush’s presidency…and President Obama – 1775 died in both wars in four years. Of course President Obama ended the Iraq War.
The Bush Years:
Iraq Year = 2003 486
Iraq Year = 2004 849
Iraq Year = 2005 846
Iraq Year = 2006 823
Iraq Year = 2007 904
Iraq Year = 2008 314
TOTAL = 4222 military personnel deaths
Afghanistan Year 2001 = 12
Afghanistan Year 2002 = 49
Afghanistan Year 2003 = 48
Afghanistan Year 2004 = 52
Afghanistan Year 2005 = 99
Afghanistan Year 2006 = 98
Afghanistan Year 2007 =117
Afghanistan Year 2008 =155
TOTAL = 630 military personnel deaths
President Obama – In Iraq = 264
In Afghanistan to date = 1511
http://icasualties.org/
Name the president who oversaw over 3000 American civilian deaths? (not to mention god-only-knows how many overseas)
At least since Obama was elected Americans can safely take the elevator to work without being hit by a plane. As an American with a job, I appreciate that.
hey Ron, I take your word that you took the picture….and it is a good picture.
You know, it’s a slippery slope when we go down the road of comparing past leaders to current situations. To that end,I truly believe that Ronald Reagan would have led the Tea Party. I’m not as well read on the others, but I do agree with your depiction of at least several of the ones you’ve listed.
I was not familiar with your past, so, now I know. I’ll keep that in mind in future posts.
By the way, earlier this evening I had referred to you as “one of the smarter libs” posting on dano’s blog, and then said I would have to re-think that position. Looks like a “moderate” republican can moonlight as a “smart lib”, eh?
Nevertheless, I suspect JFK is having more than a little heartburn over what “his” democrat party has become.
Thanks for your note.
Being a “war monger” is earned when you go to war and put American treasure and money on the line for specious reasons. Bush earned it. Obama has not. Your delusions are your own.
Don’t be fooled, Romney’s plan for fixing the economy includes yet another war in the Middle East. The same Neocons that tricked a gullible Bush into Iraq are now advising the Mittster. Watch for their hawkish foreign policy views in tomorrow night’s debate.
Funny how Poodle has been completely silent about 0bama’s Afghan war escalation.
Hey susie, you don’t see the protests because Obama is ENDING the wars and he CAN say MISSION ACCOMPLISHED. OBL is DEAD.
Next question.
hey cold,
Thank you.
Michael Howdyshell
That is some of the most shallow thionking I have ever heard you express.
Becoming the world’s bully is not what made America a great country. It was using our resources and our philosophy to help others around the world to protect themselves from similar bullies. Now the neocons want us to use that power and what good will obtained to us by serving as a protector, to enforce our will on other sovereign nations just like those bullies did. You are advocating that we become the Hitlers, the Stalins,
the Mao Tse Tung’s of the 21st century. We should maintain adequate power to ensure our own protection and that of our citizens but this philosophy that we should be about kicking the world’s ass to get our way is simplym unamerican and not in keeping with the historic principles of our country.
#75 Ask Cindy Sheehan, troll.
#58 Yep, Frankie just can’t stop thinking about his pea shooter.
hey, that was a good one, gdad!
Of course in your quest to distort the truth you want to set up a false comparison of “first term” – did you fail to note that GW Bush invaded Iraq in 2003, three years into his “first term” – was that purposeful or out of ignorance?
That’s because comparing first terms is the only reasonable comparison possible, genius. You’re trying to compare eight years to four. But ven with the Iraq invasion, more American soldiers have died under 0bama during the first four years. At least Bush won his wars. Afghanistan is worse off now than when 0bama The Idiot took office.
Hey susie, you don’t see the protests because Obama is ENDING the wars and he CAN say MISSION ACCOMPLISHED. OBL is DEAD.
Yeah, but now Al-Queda is thriving. It’s because 0bama sent them billions in aid and now they’re killing our ambassadors. Don’t you remember, Cold? That’s what this “video” lie and cover-up is all about.
Let’s hope Romney hammers this hard tonight.
And OF Course most ill-informed @92 knows more about al Qaeda than this man who has studied the organization for 30 years, and most ill-informed about 30 seconds:
“Bergen, who directs New America’s national security studies program and is CNN’s national security analyst, has spent much of his career studying al Qaeda. He said the threat of jihadist terrorism isn’t over, but that al Qaeda is no longer capable of achieving its basic goal–to mount large-scale terrorist attacks in the United States.”
“Since 9/11, only 17 people in the United States have died in attacks motivated by jihadi ideas, and the Ft. Hood shootings account for most of those deaths. All of al Qaeda’s recent plots against the United States have failed, and U.S. security intelligence and tools have greatly strengthened since 9/11, he said.”
“Thomas Lynch, a National Defense University research fellow and Bergen’s debate teammate, said the public underappreciates the effects of Osama bin Laden’s death. Al Qaeda lost an aura of invincibility that was a key part of its legend and appeal, Lynch suggested.
http://www.fiercehomelandsecurity.com/story/bergen-al-qaeda-has-been-defeated/2012-10-19
#92: If the President sent al-Qaeda “billions in aid”, that will no doubt be emphasized by Rmoney tonight. So far, Fock Snooze has not even reported that though, so perhaps they’re part of the MSM conspiracy for Obama.
Or alternatively, #92 is a stupid liar.
The last U.S. president who sent billions of aid to Al Qaeda was (wait for it) . . . Ronald Reagan!
” The last U.S. president who sent billions of aid to Al Qaeda was (wait for it) . . . Ronald Reagan! ”
They figured out how to bankrupt the USSR, and old Dubya was dumb enough to follow suit.
“Roanoke hurt by Norfolk Southern’s 200 layoffs”
FROM RT
200 is a drop in the bucket for NS … and of course they won’t lay them off in Atlanta, it has to be somewhere else.
but that al Qaeda is no longer capable of achieving its basic goal–to mount large-scale terrorist attacks in the United States.”
Yeah, but see, Al queda is rebuilding fast thanks to the billions sent to them by 0bama in Libya and the other “Arab Spring” countries. All the leftwingers were in here in Feb. 2011 clucking about democracy taking hold in these countries thanks to 0bama. I said democracy doesn’t work that way, with bodies being dragged through the streets, etc. As usual, Girl was 100% and the leftwingers were wrong. I have a file of some of the quotes from in here at that time I’d be happy to share. But fair warning: it makes some folks look pretty foolish.
The President who armed and trained the Taliban [mujahideen which eventually split and morphed into al Queda]…wait for it…
Ronald Reagan – to the tune of billions of American dollars. Reagan called the mujahideen, “freedom fighters”.
Reagan paid for a twofer: the Taliban and al Queda. Thanks Ronnie.
#98 “I have a file of some of the quotes from in here …”
OCD much?
most ill-informed – Comment by Suzie — October 22, 2012 @ 11:04 am
Sigh, another failed attempt to make you smart…
Perhaps you have trouble reading? By every estimate what was al Queda has been decimated [not in your bloviating fact free world of course] – remnants of the followers, who are now few, have become a new group of unaffiliated jihadists called al-Shabab.
Really, read more post less.
Suzie keeps files of comments on this blog. Once again she shows how very sad her life is. Once again she has my pity.
hey warren you’re right about FOX being in the tank for obuma. Hey, Rush is on, gotta go!
Life in the bubble prevails…again. I wish I could feel sorry for you truly “low effort” voters. Alas, I cannot.
“…Tommy Vietor, a National Secretary Council spokesman, explains the impact.
“Our assessment that we have decimated al Qaeda leadership is unchanged. Dozens of their senior leadership have been taken off the battlefield as a result of the president’s anti-terror policies,” Vietor said.
“We know affiliates like al Qaeda in the Arab Peninsula will seek to target us and that’s why we go after them relentlessly.”
This is a key point.
No one is arguing that all Islamic fundamentalist terrorism is gone.
There are still radical groups intent on killing Americans. As one incarnation of al Qaeda is smashed, another one may emerge.”
The reality is that they will hate us and be “regrouping” for decades to come. Which is really bad news for the Romney supporters right about now. Especially those with sons eligible for the draft that will be needed to meet his WWIII obligations.
http://thehill.com/opinion/columnists/juan-williams/263219-opinion-debunking-the-gops-false-narratives-about-the-benghazi-attack
“Here is the simple fact: The Director of National Intelligence, James Clapper has confirmed that Rice told the truth in describing the assessment of the intelligence community at the time of her remarks.
…at a hearing of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee this month, Charlene Lamb, the Deputy Assistant Secretary of State and head of the Bureau of Diplomatic Security, testified that the request was for added security in Tripoli, the capital of Libya, and not Benghazi.
The added manpower would have been based 400 miles away from the violence.
In addition, U.S. security officials report more guards could not have repelled heavy weapons used by the attackers.”
Before you feel the need to further bash the Americans working to keep this nation safe, please consider the ramifications of facts.