Ryan’s daughter’s nickname: Smells like a ‘Bean’ spirit?
There’s an odd story making the rounds in the wake of Thursday’s vice-presidential debate about Rep. Paul Ryan and how his daughter got her nickname. I picked this up from Americablog.
Below’s the account that Ryan, a known Nirvana fan, gave during the debate, in explaining his opposition to abortion:
You know, I think about 10 1/2 years ago, my wife Janna and I went to Mercy Hospital in Janesville where I was born, for our seven-week ultrasound for our firstborn child, and we saw that heartbeat. A little baby was in the shape of a bean. And to this day, we have nicknamed our firstborn child Liza, “Bean.” Now I believe that life begins at conception.
It’s cute. And it sounds plausible, right? Now here’s an account about Frances Bean Cobain, the daughter of Nirvana front man Kurt Cobain and Courtney Love, and how she got her middle name when she was born more than 20 years ago:
Frances Bean Cobain was born at Cedars-Sinai Medical Center, and was immediately anointed the world’s newest rock princess. Her parents were two of the biggest rock stars on the planet and her godfather is R.E.M frontman Michael Stipe. Kurt Cobain named his daughter after Frances McKee, the guitarist for The Vaselines, and gave her the middle named Bean because he thought she resembled a kidney bean on the ultrasound.
It’s an interesting coincidence, eh? Especially given Ryan’s admiration of Nirvana. Unless . . . it’s more than that.
It leaves your wondering whether it’s one of those stories Ryan has told so many times over the past 10 years that he believes it’s true, even if it’s not — kind of like that sub-3 hour marathon he ran years ago (not!).
October 13, 2012 - 7:00 AM
Frank mixed me up with all of his talk...
is this ALL you can think of to write about danny, truly pathetic…make up some more crap..picking on a child’s nickname is pretty lame even for you
This is Dan’s only reflection on the Biden-Ryan Debate? How about this blog item as a stimulant?
VP Debate Highlights: Uncle Joe; Libya Mess and Nuclear Iran
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http://roanokeslant.blogspot.com/2012/10/vp-debate-highlights-uncle-joe-libya.html
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Perhaps he noticed the unbelieving reaction of those to whom he told the story originally and modified it to make it sound more plausible.
I’m becoming more amazed at the decisions you make about what to put on your blog. First you were ticked off because a waitress didn’t get your food fast enough at a restaurant. A LOCAL owned and operated restaurant I might add. So you used your “power” to trash a place so many love. I could picture you sitting at the table as you waited. … Thinking about how you’d get them. They messed with the wrong guy this time. Blah.
Now you spend time writing about what Paul Ryan nicknamed his kid?! I’m no fan of the guy. Mainly because I’m catholic and hate how he’s using our faith. But the reality is literally thousands of people nicknamed there baby bean b/c of the ultrasound images. I can count 3 of my friends, not including us.
Either find something substantive to write about or take a day off.
wonder if debbie meade actually reads your garbage
People get so upset over the silliest things.
So’ he saw something on a sonogram and now he thinks he gets to dictate what women ecerywhere get to do with their “wombs”. Fascinating.
Poor Frances Bean
Interesting. Interesting that Ryan is a Nirvana fan, not so much the whole bean thing.
# 1 and # 4, i agree completely. if the roanoke(lib)times had a pair
they would give him a lifetime vacation like what happened in baltimore.
“# 1 and # 4, i agree completely. if the roanoke(lib)times had a pair
they would give him a lifetime vacation like what happened in baltimore.”
–Comment by colorado max
What happened in Baltimore?
My cousin’s child is called Eva Bean because she looked like a bean. And the story certainly wasn’t taken from nirvanna. Just shows that more than one person in this world can think their child looks like a bean and call her that. At least he didn’t point blank lie about much more important things – like LYBIA!
hey ol’ dano, why don’t you tell us what happened in Baltimore, and then, since we know that you have no hesitation lying to people (like campaign callers/ pollsters), we can speculate and ridicule whatever the story is that you come up with. Sound fair to you?
Sad that people who hate this blog keep on reading it. I guess they have nothing better to do with their time. Mr Hagen just uses it in hopes of attracting readers to his blog. Another Bobby Buckster huckster.
Lars Hagen just uses this blog in hopes of attracting readers to his. Shameless.
“hey ol’ dano, why don’t you tell us what happened in Baltimore, and then, since we know that you have no hesitation lying to people (like campaign callers/ pollsters), we can speculate and ridicule whatever the story is that you come up with. Sound fair to you?”
Frank I have no idea what colorado max is talking about. Most of the time I've spent in Baltimore has been at Os games or covering cases in federal court involving people from Annapolis.
I can't recall the outcome of those games, except for the 7th game of a World Series there in 1971. The Os lost that one to the Pirates.
There were also a bunch of trials that involved people from Annapolis or Anne Arundel County that I covered in federal court in Baltimore. In the criminal cases, all the defendants were convicted. In the civil case I covered, the plaintiff lost.
Is it one of the above, max?
Yes Danno, please write a 30 inch column about what happened in Baltimore.
Maybe they’re talking about the Os game I was at with my pal Skidar, in the 80s, when we threw some peanuts-in-the-shell at an usher.
That’s about the most mischief I’ve ever caused in Baltimore. (DC was a totally different story).
Story on CNN this morning, re: plagiarism charge lobbied against Mitt Romney. Peter Berg is the creator of the television show “Friday Night Lights”:
“Peter Berg wrote a letter to Romney on Friday saying he’s “not thrilled” that the Republican presidential candidate is using the phrase “Clear Eyes, Full Hearts, Can’t Lose” on campaign posters and his Facebook page.
Hmmm. . . now there’s a pattern within this campaign for presidency/vice presidency.
Now, the phrase could be considered in the public domain, not trademarked, etc. so on so forth. Maybe there’s nothing “illegal” about using the phrase without crediting it properly. Still, it’s not quite proper. There’s probably a psychological term for using popular mainstream / pop culture references to familiarize yourself with a person and make yourself more approachable or likeable. I don’t know what it is.
To loosely quote an old saying “What you do when you believe there’s no one watching tells a lot about your character”.
Cut Dan some slack. If you truly believe in American and freedom of speech, please allow someone to express a differing opinion without turning nasty, demeaning, and vicious.
It’s interesting to see Dano “wondering” and “speculating” in regards to this Bean nonsense with Paul Ryan. I wonder, will Dano now write about the proven fact (not speculation) that Joe Biden has lied about the circumstances of the death of his wife and child in 1972? Will Dano write about what kind of sick person intentionally distorts the truth surrounding the tragic deaths of his own wife and son? Actually, since Dano is such a fair and objective writer and he leaves no stone unturned, I’m sure Dano wrote about this story back in 2008 when he was vetting ol’ hair plugs THEN, right? (Crickets)
Hi Wise,
I see you bring up plagiarism… Has Joe Biden ever been charged with plagiarism?? How many times has he been charged with plagiarism? How many times has ol’ Dano EVER mentioned or written about Biden’s plagiarism charges? Lol.
Goober, Gomer’s country cousin, can’t even get his own story straight. Joe Biden lost a wife and daughter in that car accident, not a son. His two sons survived after a long hard physical struggle. When you’ve walked in Joe biden’s shoes and been through that hell, then you might be quaslified to comment asnd criticize. Otherwiswe, you’re just another buimpkin flapping his gums.
From what matt has written, he’s apparently incensed that 50 years ago Joe Biden apparently stretched the truth regarding his wife and child’s death. They did indeed die; that is undisputed — so far.
And at this point we should give the right-wing some credit for not inventing some kind of Vince Foster conspiracy theory about that, which they have done over and over again before in tragedies that affected Democrats.
Anyway, matt’s comparing this half-century old item to something Paul Ryan said Thursday night, as if there’s some sort of equivalency there. And he’s suggesting I’m calling Ryan a liar. Which I did not do.
But we already know the guy has problems telling the truth, re: the sub-3-hour marathon story . . .which also is very recent.
The right thinks attacking the mode in which a guy’s family dies is a winning talking point.
Biden took his oath of office in his son’s hospital room. Personally, I and most normal people aren’t going to care if he claims an alien killed his family…a guy goes through something like that and he gets a pass forever on it. Whatever he wants to say.
So do you guys really think it is not possible that more than one family ever in the history of babies has called their unborn child “bean”? I mean we called ours “nugget”, but I’m not arrogant enough to think we are the only ones that ever did it. I mean really Dan. Has Ryan ever done anything you won’t complain about?
That hurt to read.
Lars Hagen uses this blog in hopes of attracting readers to his. Reminds me of the huckster Bobby Buck.
“So do you guys really think it is not possible that more than one family ever in the history of babies has called their unborn child “bean”? I mean we called ours “nugget”, but I’m not arrogant enough to think we are the only ones that ever did it. I mean really Dan. Has Ryan ever done anything you won’t complain about?”
Of course, Chuck. Didn’t you read the entire blog post? The most likely explanation is that it’s “an interesting coincidence.” That’s why I listed that possibility first.
Hey Cue Ball,
thanks for the correction. I did say “son” when I should have said “daughter.” I realize this is a mistake of epic proportions. Lol. But I can completely understand your attempt to make the issue about THAT, rather than Biden lying about the circumstances under which they died. I guess you are comfortable with Biden putting the truck driver’s family through hell with his lies about this case over the years. I guess THAT family doesn’t matter to dave and other libs like him. And dave also feels there is no need to question a man who would actually stoop so low as to lie about how his wife and child died. I guess that’s the norm in lib land.
hey dano, good effort on trying to put the Baltimore thingy to rest. However, were one of those “federal cases” you were involved in…, covering…., have anything to do with you, perhaps?
Dano,
“And he’s suggesting I’m calling Ryan a liar. Which I did not do.”
Wow. Now you are just making things up as you go along. Please show me where I accused you of calling Ryan a liar. I said you were just “wondering” and “speculating” about how Ryan came up with the name of his daughter–which certainly doesn’t even come close to lying about how one’s wife and child died.
Either way, Dano, you did say THIS: “It’s an interesting coincidence, eh? Especially given Ryan’s admiration of Nirvana. Unless . . . it’s more than that. It leaves your wondering whether it’s one of those stories Ryan has told so many times over the past 10 years that he believes it’s true, even if it’s not…”–Oops. Sure thing, Dano. You certainly didn’t even come CLOSE to SUGGESTING that Ryan was a liar. No way, no how. Where would ANY of your readers have gotten THAT idea. Lol. Just…wow.
Oh, and Dano, you said “50 years ago” and “half-century old item.” Actually, it was only 40 years ago, but what’s a silly ten years to an opinion columnist, eh? And Biden made statements in 2001 and 2007 referring to the truck driver as drinking and driving that night. Lies, of course. But sure, it was SO long ago that it doesn’t matter what Biden says about the matter now. Who cares about the truck driver’s family, right? Who cares that Biden is smearing that man’s reputation. He gets a pass because his wife and kid died in the accident, so screw the other family.
hey dano,
soo, we have plagerizing ol’ vpjoe…wild finger-wagging, no-sex-with-that-woman thingy bill clinton, then that ol’ johnny edwards baby-making, baby-denier caper, and bald-faced lying obuma with his “Libya violence caused by un-stable American”.
…and ol’ dano is worried about a possible plagerized nic-name? Are you for real, dano? Well, yeah, I know the answer to THAT question. You are all to real, and all to pathetic with your picking of targets to ridicule and vilify. shame on you, dano. that effort is pathetic.
On August 24 2008, The Cedar Rapids Gazette bin Cedaqr Rapids Iowa printed an article researched by its librarian John McClothlin about the story of the tragedy of the Biden family and the charges being leveled by right wingersd that Biden had ied. The article was posted to a blog which invited comments from the public. The Biden statement did not say his family was killed by a drunk driver. It said that they were struck by a vehicle driven by a man who allegedly drank his lunch and said that Biden never pursued those charges. The statement was made four years after the truck driver was dead so I doubt if it caused him great banguish and personal suffering.. A comment was poste to the blog by one of the responders from the scene of the accident. I apologize for pasting the entire comment here but I think its importqnt for Gomer and Goober to read it in its entirety so here it is:
26. Lou Angeli – March 25, 2009
For what it’s worth — I am a veteran firefighter and EMT-I based in Delaware. At the time of Neilia Biden’s accident I was studying at the University of Delaware and serving as a 20 year old probationary volunteer fireman.
On the afternoon of December 19th, I was returning home from classes when I heard a dispatch for a personal injury accident on my fire scanner. Although firefighters and first-aid personnel weren’t permitted to respond to alarms in our personal vehicles, I would have passed the accident on the way to the fire station, 6 miles away. So I stopped.
Law Enforcement on the scene included a Delaware State Police officer as well as a PA State Trooper, as the the state line is just 1/2 mile away. There was an ambulance and pumper from Hockessin Delaware as well as that department’s fire policemen. Three other ambulances were on their way from Newark and Pennsylvania.
The Trooper checked the registration and radioed his supervisor that he believed the victims to be members of the Biden family. Joe was flown directly to the accident scene by helicopter.
The first-in crew was working on Mrs. Biden and attempting to locate the infant, Naomi. Beau and Hunter Biden (Joe and Robert) had been bounced around on impact and had multiple injuries — including head injuries, lacerations and broken arms.
With the focus on the Biden family, another firefighter and I attended to Mr. Dunn. He was in shock, and had difficulty understanding me when I explained what had happened. I placed a cervical collar around his neck and checked vital signs. He was pretty badly banged up.
There was no way to determine if Mr. Dunn had been drinking, since neither of the police officers had blow kits. His injuries were such that his behavior was that of someone in a stupor, but those of you who serve as EMT’s know that such behavior is exhibited by victims who are in shock, or perhaps even diabetic.
I’m not sure of the order, but the ambulances began rushing the victims to Wilmington, about 16 miles away. Keep in mind it was the early 70′s and there was no such animal as a paramedic or a system called ALS. All of us on the scene had 40 hours of first-aid training, and we simply rushed the victims to the hospital as quickly and safely as possible.
Beau and Hunter were the last to be moved because they required quite a bit of immobilization. I recall Larry Mergenthaler and Don Lentes, both veteran firefighters working on the boys.
Lastly, all of the records pertaining to this accident are lost. Back then our fire incident report was filled out on a 3×5 card and filed in a box. Once a month the information was transferred to a master list, which was filed away.
Like most first responders, our participation in emergency incidents end when we back the ambulance into the station. Most EMS runs we tend to forget, but this is one that I’ll remember to my grave.
If Mr.Dunn was intoxiated, there was no clear cut indication at the scene. However, bloodwork at the old Delaware Hospital would have confirmed such. Unfortunately, those results are missing as well. To be honest, those of us in fire-rescue here in Delaware assumed that he (Dunn) was under the influence, but the Attorney General’s office didn’t have the proper evidence to try him.
Feel free to contact me via email or through my website.
You will note that this man says that the fire and rescue personnel on the scene assumed that the driver was under the influence and that test results were lost making it impossible for the attorney general to pursue the case in court. If you don’t think the belief of the fire and rescue personnel wqas communicated to Joe Biden, I have a bridge to sell you
Here ia the link to the articlehttp://lookinginatiowa.wordpress.com/2008/08/24/1972-article-about-fatal-crash-which-took-life-of-bidens-wife-daughter/
Debbie@11:47
Lars becomes more pitiful and needy every day in his attempts to drive btraffic to his blog. I wonder if he is not under pressure from the RT brass to get more participation or lose his megaphone.
I wonder though in the interest of full disclosure
Ryan and Ms Okie considered in the early days of
their divine experiment calling the form Spermie or Eggo..
Is it a stretch that Mr Bean may have offered up his own contribution
when marathon man was out pounding the pavement ..instead of…well…
If you think it was a coincidence, why make yet another post implying he’s lying. Are you guys really that desperate? I thought one of the best parts of the VP debate was when Ryan quoted then-candidate Obama about when you don’t have a performance history you can run on, you paint your opponent as someone to run from. Is that the only play in your playbook this year?
I’m happy for Ryan’s daughter that her father thought she looked like a bean because it means she won’t grow up to be a Tea Party type person. Tea Party people didn’t look like a bean, they looked like a peanut. That probably why every time you see a Tea Party gathering you think to yourself that it’s a huge gathering of nuts.
Chuck:
“I mean really Dan. Has Ryan ever done anything you won’t complain about?”
Chuck, neither Romney nor Ryan can do any right in Dan’s eyes. One important function of this blog is working for his candidates.
Wow, you right wingers sure believe in free speech don’t you? I think you should worry if Debbie Meade “actually reads your garbage” much more than Dan’s. He has a loyal fan club. You have hate.
You are so right Debbie, Bobby Buck indeed!
Ryan (Mr Bean) practicing for his inauguration
where Mitt will strap him.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMW3Q7TQars
“I guess you are comfortable with Biden putting the truck driver’s family through hell with his lies about this case over the years. I guess THAT family doesn’t matter to dave and other libs like him. And dave also feels there is no need to question a man who would actually stoop so low as to lie about how his wife and child died. I guess that’s the norm in lib land.”
matt, why don’t you show us a reputable source for your claim that Biden went around trashing the truck driver by name for all these years. I assume you’re suggesting he did it by name — otherwise, there would be no way to put “the truck driver’s family through hell.”
Or . . . are you wildly stretching the truth with that, too?
“hey dano, good effort on trying to put the Baltimore thingy to rest. However, were one of those “federal cases” you were involved in…, covering…., have anything to do with you, perhaps?”
Frank, yes, one of them did, but only very tangentially. I’ve never been arrested, or charged with a crime, or sued. Or fired/laid off since I started in journalism in 1984.
And I never worked for a Baltimore paper, and colorado max doesn’t know jack about me. That numbskull is posting from Georgia.
In case the Gomer and Goober crowd are interested, here is a link that explains who Lou Angeli is.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lou_Angeli
“If you think it was a coincidence, why make yet another post implying he’s lying. Are you guys really that desperate? I thought one of the best parts of the VP debate was when Ryan quoted then-candidate Obama about when you don’t have a performance history you can run on, you paint your opponent as someone to run from. Is that the only play in your playbook this year?”
Chuck, it’s probably a coincidence but I don’t know. It’s possible that he made it up though. That’s not an implication, Chuck. It merely sets for a possibility — not the most likely one but a possibility nonetheless.
It wouldn’t be worth my time if it was you saying this, unless you were running for VP, had demonstrably lied about you years-ago marathon time in a big way, and had engaged in many other instances that showed you were truth-challenged.
you can call me anything you like, but it certainly is strange that
a big time writer like you would leave the baltimore, dc metro area for
a two bit newspaper in the backwaters of virginia? does some of this
go all the way back to BINGHAMPTON, before your outstanding stay at the
univ of maryland?
hey you libs,
why did our happy guy vpjoe drop out of the race for pres a time or 2 or 3 ago. had somthin to do with stealing someone else’s already created material and making it his own…and not giving credit to where credit is do…somethin like plagerism?
is that a lie?
Dan (and dave),
I said Biden has made public statements over the years referring to the truck driver as drinking and driving that night. I also said his lies caused pain and anguish to the family of the truck driver. Both of my statements are true. In post #30, I pointed out two instances in which Biden made such statements, in 2001 and 2007. And Dan, you seem to claim that it “doesn’t really count” as long as Biden didn’t mention the truck driver by name, thus the family would somehow be unaffected by this. That seems pretty weak. If I was a child/family member of the truck driver, and I was made aware that Senator Joe Biden was making false public statements about my father regarding alcohol and the accident, it would upset me. Would it not infuriate you? The truck driver’s family knows who they are, the people in their town and community know who they are, and having a Senator tell misleading and reputation-damaging comments about a tragedy your father was involved in is a terrible thing -in my opinion.
“At least twice, Biden himself has made public references to alcohol being involved in the crash. In 2007 Biden said the truck driver “allegedly … drank his lunch.” And multiple news outlets, including CBS News, have reported that Dunn was drunk.”
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18563_162-4890564.html
“Let me tell you a little story,” Mr. Biden told the crowd at the University of Iowa. “I got elected when I was 29, and I got elected November the 7th. And on Dec. 18 of that year, my wife and three kids were Christmas shopping for a Christmas tree. A tractor-trailer, a guy who allegedly — and I never pursued it — drank his lunch instead of eating his lunch, broadsided my family and killed my wife instantly, and killed my daughter instantly, and hospitalized my two sons, with what were thought to be at the time permanent, fundamental injuries.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/14/us/politics/14biden.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
“Biden told a similar story when addressing an audience at the Bob Carpenter Center at the University of Delaware a few days after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks. “It was an errant driver who stopped to drink instead of drive and hit a tractor-trailer, hit my children and my wife and killed them,” Biden said, according to a transcript archived on his Senate Web site.”
“…Inside Edition aired a clip from 2001 of Biden describing the accident to an audience at the University of Delaware…”
“To see it coming from [Biden's] mouth, I just burst into tears,” Dunn’s daughter, Glasgow resident Pamela Hamill, 44, said Wednesday. “My dad was always there for us. Now we feel like we should be there for him because he’s not here to defend himself.”
http://bostonmaggie.blogspot.com/2008/10/1972-crash-still-haunts-drivers-family.html
“As the chief deputy attorney general, Jerome Herlihy was assigned to the incident. Two days later, he issued his report, clearing Dunn.
A story headlined, “No Charges Due for Trucker in Biden Deaths,” in the Evening Journal read: “[Herlihy] said there was no evidence that [Dunn] was speeding, drinking or driving a truck with faulty brakes. In addition, Herlihy said, witnesses to the crash near Hockessin provided no basis for a prosecution.”
No further details were released, although Herlihy knew more about the accident than he let on. Years later, he elaborated.
It is hard to think of anyone better the Attorney General’s Office could have sent. Herlihy was a Republican, a good enough one that he served as the Republican state chairman in the late 1970s and early 1980s, but he also knew the Bidens and thought the world of Neilia.
In the late 1960s, Herlihy and the Bidens were neighbors with a common driveway on Marsh Road in Brandywine Hundred, when Joe Biden was a new lawyer. It was before he was elected to the Senate, even before he was elected to the New Castle County Council in 1970.
The Bidens had two German shepherds, and for better or worse, they were named “Senator” and “Governor.” When Herlihy used to pull into the driveway late at night, he would spy eyes looking at him from the bushes and call out, “Senator, is that you?”
Herlihy, now a Superior Court judge, no longer will talk about the accident because he is constrained by his judicial office from injecting himself into a political campaign. He was interviewed about it, however, in 1998 by this writer as part of the research for Only in Delaware, a history of modern state politics.
In that interview, Herlihy said Neilia Biden either accelerated or drifted through the intersection, and Dunn could not stop. The truck driver said she was not looking at him, her face turned away, and the state police thought she was distracted by one of the children in the back seat.
“She was one of the sweetest people you ever could meet. It was so tragic,” Herlihy said in 1998.
Dunn died in 1999, but Philip A. Lafferty, the truck owner he drove for, still lives in Avondale, Pa. In a telephone interview, Lafferty recalled the state police impounding the tractor-trailer and the station wagon for the investigation for a couple of days and concluding that Dunn was not at fault.
“Nothing came of it. They had people, witnesses,” Lafferty said. “He was a good truck driver, very caring. It shook him up. It was an awful thing for all of us.”
Biden’s remarks in Iowa were not his only version of the accident. He offered another description in a speech on Sept. 19, 2001, at the University of Delaware. His focus that day was the terrorist attack of Sept. 11, but he mentioned his personal tragedy to show he understood the country’s.
“I got one of those phone calls,” Biden said.
“I got a phone call saying, ‘Your wife’s dead, your daughter’s dead.’ And I’ve only said that three times in public before. But I say it here because it’s so important for you to understand. I got one of those phone calls. It was an errant driver who stopped to drink instead of drive and hit a tractor-trailer, hit my children and my wife and killed them.”
Except there was no errant drunken driver. No drinking. No speeding. Not even bad brakes.”
http://www.delawaregrapevine.com/12-07bidencrash.asp
Dave, note that Jerome O. Herlihy was not a firefighter or EMT, he was chief deputy attorney general and he investigated the case, and he found that alcohol was absolutely not a factor in the accident. Also note that Herlihy was a friend and former neighbor of the Bidens. Finally, please note that Biden apparently told this drunk driving lie during a speech he was giving focusing on the tragedy of 9/11 – a week after the 9/11 attacks occurred. Pretty sick stuff, eh?
Finally Dave, the main point I gleaned from your blog cut and paste from the supposed EMT was “If Mr.Dunn was intoxicated, there was no clear cut indication at the scene.” Yet, just two sentences later, the same man says “To be honest, those of us in fire-rescue here in Delaware assumed that he (Dunn) was under the influence.” Ummm, Ok? They just “assumed” he was intoxicated? Of course, this is after he earlier stated “I attended to Mr. Dunn. He was in shock, and had difficulty understanding me when I explained what had happened. I placed a cervical collar around his neck and checked vital signs. He was pretty badly banged up.” Ever had a concussion, dave? Ever played a little pigskin and had your bell rung, dave? I imagine a head-on collision will make a person act a little loopy and “off.” Bottom line, the truck driver was exonerated of any wrong doing, and for Joe Biden to lie in public statements about the circumstances surrounding his wife and child’s death is disgusting.
Frank, post in English like an adult and maybe some of the “libs” will respond. As it is, you read like a creeper. As does max.
And the saga lives on.. “The Desperation of Dan.“
Hey Matt, You gave a reasoned, articulate response…, however, it’ll be lost on ol’ davey. His eyes will glass over, he’ll start to sweat. He’ll recognize the symptons, and go mix up a fresh batch of kool-aid and closed-mindedness, all mixed “professionally”, of course. Then, he’ll start gulping away.
Along the line of your last sentence or two, that sums up where our current president is…lying.
For those of you interested in obuma’s handling of the fiasco known as the “Libyan terrorist attacks” who missed ol’ Bob Wooward this morning on FOX News, you owe it to yourselves to check out Chris Wallace and his show at 2:00 and 6:00 p.m. This is a guy who’s been around the block, knows something about investigative reporting, and, well, isn’t cowed by the lib press to not speak his mind, professionally.
I think partisans on both sides would be non-contentious with the views he expressed….except for maybe the dans.
Hey you libs, by the way, do ya think that the current al-qaeda leader, in his recent political use of the “bad American movie” which obuma and hillary have apologized for ad nauseum for about 3 weeks following the killing of 4 Americans including Ambassador Stevens…do ya think he is mocking obama and hillary? supporting obama and hillary? being stupid? or, smart?
Anyhow, Bob Woodward is a credible person. I urge you to hear what he has to say today on Fox News.
Goober
I have not claimed that the driver of the tractor trailer was drunk. I have pointed out that mergency and fire personnel who were present at the scene assumed that the man was under the influence and that those opinions were conveyed to then senator Biden. Also Mr. Angeli in his response maintained that the blood tests and analyses were lost and that the attorney general was not able to make a case.For 29 years, Joe Biden did not speak of this to thepress or anyone. He did not make Mr. Dunn’s life or his family’s life a living hell. He only spoke of it first in 2001
two years after Mr. Dun’s death. He raised the point when trying to connect with and empathize with the people who lost loved ones in the 9/11 tragedy to let them know how he understood their pain and suffering.
And there is is a difference in sasying he ALLEGEDLY drank his lunch and
that he never pursued it and saying a drunk driver killed his wife and kids. As is usual with you and the rwer’s you seize upon a sentence taken out of context, just as you did with Obama’s Roanoke speech, and try to build it into a story of monumental proportions. Yet you will defend a Mitt Romney who gaver an entire speech disparaging 47% of Americans and claim that was taken “out of context”. You have no balance and no end to your vitriol. For 36 years Joe Biden served in the Senate and had a reputation for bing capable, caring, and among the most honest men in the Senate. While other men serving in the Senate during that time took advantage of their positions and inside trader information from lobbyists to become multimillionaires, Joe Biden remained plain old outspoken honest Joe and never took the cash or sold out to the lobbyists. He has long been redcognized as an authority on foreign affairs
and has sat at the tablwe and been involved in truly bipartisan solutios to problems throughout his caeer. Joe Biden IS middle class America and the fact that you and Gomer have bought into the right wing meme that he is some kind of lying buffoon says a great desal more about you than it does abut him. The lies and contradictions coming from Paul Ryan and Mitt Romney seem to flow off your back like water off a duck.I’d go to war with Joe Biden every day of the week and know that he had my back. If I was on the line with with Ryan or Romney, I’d be looking to be stabbed in the back.
Hey kristen #48 maybe? …you know, I’ve been accused of many things, but I have never yet been accused of being a man of few words. Sorry about that. What took me about 50 words to say in the post you attacked, could have easily been said in, like, five words. Those five words are:
JOE BIDEN IS A SERIAL PLAGERISER.
…do any of you libs remember why ol’ vpjoe dropped out of his race for democrat nomination for potus in 1988? For those who don’t re-call, it was for plagerism. He didn’t plagerise just once, however. From a review of the literature on ol’ joe’s public life with plagerism (real easy to do by googling, as there’s a bunch of examples to follow)…I believe ol’vpjoe is a serial plageriser. He displays all the classic symptons, over time.
The sad truth about that is, I don’t think obamacare covers “serial plageriser sickness”. That’s too bad, because after watching vpjoe’s anti-social antics and uncontrolled guffaws and inappropriate, out-of-place facial contortions the other night, combined with his refusal to stop lying about the truck driver involved in his wife’s tragic car accident…I’d be the first to say that vpjoe is a sick man, and deserves the best of care…for mental illness.
I urge you libs, and vpjoe lovers, to google “joe biden plagerism”. I need to warn you, however…after reading several pieces, you will feel some sleaziness. The guy is slime.
hey ol’ dano, I’d say your lib buddie davey just got smoked. It looks like davey needs your help, dano.
What say YOU write a 28-incher column describing what ol’ vpjoe REALLY meant to say at the University of Delaware in September, 2001, when then-senator joe plainly and clearly uttered, “It was an errant driver who stopped to drink…but hit my children and wife…and killed them.”
When can we see THAT column, eh?
Cue Ball,
I’m pretty surprised you are still trying to defend this BS. Lets run down the points you make in your response.
In your first paragraph, you say:
“I have not claimed that the driver of the tractor trailer was drunk. I have pointed out that mergency and fire personnel who were present at the scene assumed that the man was under the influence and that those opinions were conveyed to then senator Biden.”–You provide absolutely no evidence for this flailing assumption that Mr. Dunn was drunk (and neither does the blog post you contributed from the EMT). I already pointed out that the EMT states that Mr. Dunn was in very bad shape after the crash. The EMT states that it is normal for people involved in car crashes to be in quite a daze afterwards. That same EMT then randomly says, essentially, “but yeah, we all thought he was drunk though.” Based on what!?!? What gives him the right to start this false and unfounded rumor? On what evidence did he base this claim? I would say making such statements, without ANY evidence, greatly reduces any credibility this EMT might have regarding this case. And the INVESTIGATOR, someone MUCH more qualified to make such a determination, and a friend of the Bidens, found that alcohol had NOTHING to do with it…and that it was Biden’s wife who probably caused the accident.
Still from your first paragraph: “For 29 years, Joe Biden did not speak of this to the press or anyone. He did not make Mr. Dunn’s life or his family’s life a living hell. He only spoke of it first in 2001 two years after Mr. Dun’s death. He raised the point when trying to connect with and empathize with the people who lost loved ones in the 9/11 tragedy to let them know how he understood their pain and suffering.”—Dave, I think it is very interesting that Biden never mentioned that the truck driver was drunk until AFTER the man died in 1999. Only then does ol’ Biden start referring to him as being drunk that night. Why? I am no attorney, but I wonder if the truck driver would have had a nice little lawsuit to file if he was alive when ol’ hairplugs started trashing his reputation with false claims? Dead men can’t bring lawsuits, after all. Also, you state that since Biden didn’t bring it up until 2001, this means that he didn’t put the family through hell. Umm, dave? We’re almost to 2013. Biden told his lies about this case in 2001 and 2007. So, any living member of that man’s family has had to deal with Biden sullying Mr. Dunn’s reputation in public statements since 2001. Did you not read the comments from the truck driver’s daughter? Yikes. And finally, to close out your first paragraph, you actually defend Biden’s lie because he was trying to show empathy to those who lost loved ones on 9/11? So, it’s ok to lie to grieving people as long as it makes you appear more understanding of their pain? That’s alright with you, dave? Yuck.
And you also have your Biden statements confused. In the 2001 speech just a week after 9/11, Biden said: “I got one of those phone calls,” Biden said. “I got a phone call saying, ‘Your wife’s dead, your daughter’s dead.’ And I’ve only said that three times in public before. But I say it here because it’s so important for you to understand. I got one of those phone calls. It was an errant driver who stopped to drink instead of drive and hit a tractor-trailer, hit my children and my wife and killed them.” You then go on to insult right-wingers for taking a sentence out of context, and you defend Biden because he used the word “ALLEGEDLY.” Dave, notice that the word “allegedly” appears NOWHERE in that statement from 2001. The Biden comment you are referring to was from 2007. That is the comment in which Biden said that the truck driver “allegedly” drank his lunch. So, in one comment Biden states as fact that Mr. Dunn was drinking and driving, and in the other comment Biden uses the word “allegedly.” In my previous post, I provided several links citing all of this information, dave. Didn’t read them?
Your second and third paragraphs aren’t really worth much of a response. You don’t mention the case at all, you simply deflect and blather on about Biden’s amazing and exceptional qualities. We can both argue those points until we are blue in the face, but none of that changes the fact that Biden has lied in public statements about the night his wife and child died, and in doing so, he kicked another American family under the bus. And that is disgusting.
And that comment above by matt was 27 inches.
What are the chances of anyone reading such a long slog of drivel from lower-case matt. I put them at somewhere between slim and none, and slim just left town.
Kristen, that post was just for Dano and lower-case dave. And I certainly understand libs like yourself being unable to stick with a topic for any long period of time, especially when that topic is highlighting our pathetic loser of a Vice President.
(door) matt, suppose Biden’s wife had been driving when her negligence killed someone? Would you feel that it’d have been better for she and Joe to have refused to discuss it while he pursued his political career, finally only saying some generalities in a book after the end of the couple’s political career? To add to it, let’s say that Biden had also covered up a DUI he’d received in order to protect his own career.
Truth is, you’d be screaming about how his DUI and even her recklessness reflects on his character. Yet, you’re as silent about the real life political figure who fits the above scenario as you are about the enormous debt that person burdened our country with. Why?
Welcome, lower class matt, to a public blog. Everyone can see it and everyone can comment. If you want to pass notes like a kid in 3rd grade, email.
I doubt they slogged through that drivel either, and if they did…5 minutes of their lives they’ll never get back.
hey matt, you just smoked ol’ qball for being the liar that he is. holy cow, it’ll take him weeks to get that stuff off!
“hey matt, you just smoked ol’ qball for being the liar that he is. holy cow, it’ll take him weeks to get that stuff off!”
Less than 1 inch!
Kristen,
Like I said, I don’t blame you for not being able to read long posts. They often times have too much substance and require too much focus for someone of your abilities.
mr casey, why don’t you ever answer the question on why a great(in your
own world) writer and liberal like you spends your time with a two bit
newspaper in the backwoods of virginia. afraid the sharks in the real world will eat you alive?
Mr. Max,
Because your question assumes “facts” that are untrue. So it’s not worth my time to answer.
“Less than 1 inch!”
Probably the first time ever for this phrase to come off a guy’s keyboard.
Why do you people continue to feed these morons? Just sayin’.
I’m curious, Colorado Max, as to why you care about Dan if you live in Georgia. Did you go to school with him or work with him in MD?
hey warren,
I’m glad you brought up reference to teddy kennedy. he was a drunk, spent like a drunk sailor (with apologies to sailors who drink…), and drove his car into an accident with some water under a bridge. he got out, and like 7 hours later, remembered that there was a young girl in the car with him…
for sure, libs didn’t care about that, either, and it didn’t hurt ol’ teddy’s career any….except, possibly when he challenged ol’ jimmy in 1984.
hey warren, my bad…looks like that drunk, water-bashing teddy kennedy challenged jimmy in 1980.
i betcha ol’ dano’s path has crossed with Max’s sometime back in the day.
“(door) matt, suppose Biden’s wife had been driving when her negligence killed someone?” –Warren
Would that be similar to the Ted Kennedy/Chappaquiddick case, Warren? Of course, it wasn’t Kennedy’s wife, it was Kennedy himself whose negligence while driving killed someone. But, I digress…
Your post makes it obvious that you have no idea what you are talking about (as usual). You see, Biden’s wife was driving, and her negligence, in one way or the other, DID cause the accident-which claimed her life and the life of her infant child. The investigator who was assigned to the case said “Neilia Biden either accelerated or drifted through the intersection, and Dunn could not stop. The truck driver said she was not looking at him, her face turned away, and the state police thought she was distracted by one of the children in the back seat.”
And do you ever notice that the majority of your posts always revolve around random if/then questions and asinine statements? Nothing any previous Republican politician did had anything at all to do with Biden’s accident or Biden’s false statements about it over the years. But I can understand why you would want to deflect away from the topic at hand.
Also, it’s sad to see that you have to copy Steve C’s nickname for me. Come on, Warren. At least be creative enough to come up with your own stuff. The way I see it, ol’ Steve C has earned that nickname, while you are still fourth string water boy.
Joe Biden is a hero of the blue collar worker and the middle class. For the RWers to insult his integrity and the death of his wife the way they have on this blog is atrocious just because he gave their little VP candidate a spanking.
Lying Ryan had it coming and showed what a child he is.
(door) matt:
The point in my post was to question why you don’t mention the similar tragedies of others regardless of political ideology. Given the similarities of your response and your relative Frank’s, it seems that such events only have resonance to you for their use as trivial debate points.
I use the appellation bestowed on you by the eminent Steve C because it’s the most apt. No other name could come close to suggesting how your elective ignorance invites figuratively wiping one’s feet on you, and how easy it is to do so.
Now, let’s return to the question you and Frank avoided, about your silence on the huge debt that we were burdened with by the previous president (the one who hid his DUI). Do interest payments on Bush’s huge debt bother you (when every other president, in all sorts of economic conditions, put their wars on the balance sheet and worked to pay for them, rather than put them on a credit card and then blame the next guy for their costs)?
70.i betcha ol’ dano’s path has crossed with Max’s sometime back in the day. Comment by Frank
I bet Frank’s path crossed (door)matt’s more recently.
#63 Why is it always the right wingers on this blogs who are such creeps? Think of it — suzie, pasmmala, MMM, DD, Jony, steve nelson, frank, matt, and many, many more. What weirdos.
CM, you have no credibility.
a guy goes through something like that and he gets a pass forever on it. Whatever he wants to say.
Not really. You’re allowed a little leeway, but Biden’s been a horse’s ass for 40 years since, and he’s messed over a lot of people in the process. Politicians who use their tragedy for political gain lose all sympathy pretty quickly. See, going hard left is not a natural reaction to grief. It appears a bit more calculated.
Cindy Sheehan was fine when she talked to Bush the first time. But when she camped out on his grounds and started moving beyond war in her criticism of Bush, that’s where public trust of her wore thin. Then when she ran for Congress to the left of Pelosi, that’s when she made it all the way to national joke. People couldn’t stand the sight of her anymore.
Water boy Warren (fourth string),
“The point in my post was to question why you don’t mention the similar tragedies of others regardless of political ideology.”
No, Warren. Your post was devoid of any real point, as usual. As is the norm with libs such as yourself, you’d rather not address the issue. So, you resort to comparisons, historical references, and “but he did it” arguments. Just flailing, really. It’s sad. But, it’s enjoyable to watch non-thinking douche bags such as yourself when you are unable to actually confront the facts. In this case, those facts are Joe Biden’s false public statements about how his wife and child died. Ya know, when Biden lied and smeared an innocent man’s reputation? I know, it’s pathetic and disgusting, but it’s true.
Now, go get Steve C some water.
Better watch what you say, gdad. I may own a newspaper some day and hire you back as a reporter again…. well that is if I buy the Enquirer or the Weekly World News.
Suzie:
“See, going hard left is not a natural reaction to grief. It appears a bit more calculated.”
It amazes me how not only political, but partisan absolutely everything in your world is! Is there a LW and RW way to pee too?! OMG.
Suzie, if you want to bash Biden, there are plenty of right wing things to say. Trying to go after him about his wife and daughter is just sick.
#78 Hmm, the Enquirer pays quite well, or at least it used to.
#769 And, as usual, she has no idea what she’s talking about, John W.
hey beason, so you endorse vpjoe’s deliberate and decades long mis-characterization of his wife’s and daughter’s deaths as being the result of a drunk driver?
Let’s also read your lib spin on vyjoe’s decades long bout with being a serial plagiariser.
Richard J Beason, Certified Public Accountant,
You really haven’t a clue, do you? No one is “going after Biden about his wife and daughter.” What is being discussed is the FACT that Biden LIED in public speeches about how his own wife and child died…for political gain. By telling these lies, he tarnished the reputation of an innoncent man. Now THAT is sick. Next time, try reading up on the subject before commenting.
#83 & 84 Ain’t that precious? Mattie-wattie and Frankie-wankie tag teaming. Sock puppet theater.
Awww, Gpuddles is back in pigtails and his cheerleading uniform. What, no defense of ol’ Biden, Gpuddles? Yeah, that’s a tough one, eh?
#79 Of course there is John W, didn’t you know it’s in their guidebook?
Sarcasm font off.
#86 Cheerleading? Heck, mattie, I was just pointing out how cute you two are joined at the hip there. Really sweet.
Nahh, gdiddly, that’s just you cheerleadin’–like always. You can admit it. And it IS cute how you and bobbsey twin #1 follow each other around from thread to thread, sticking up for each other.
hey gduddy… you guys got…NO…game.
All of this polarizing talk from Suzie makes me wish we could have a mixer where she didn’t know who was who and no one could make any political references. It might really surprise her! One of my business partners and good friend is very socially liberal, but a solid and disciplined investor. She would have no idea and assume that because of his business acumen, that he is a RWer. Since the only threads I ever posted on here were gun threads last year, she made exactly the same assumption about me assuming that pro-gun = RW, which isn’t true at all.
She is really shortchanging her own experience with her anti-liberal bias. What’s more is that she misuses the word “liberal” itself. I think being “liberal” can be a good thing; it’s that whole anti-liberty, leftist “religion” that gives the term “liberal” a bad connotation.
John Wilburn @91
I agree John. From just reading the posts of some of my fellow Dems and those of the libertarians, socially, I think there is more in common than not. Might be some differences how we come to a solution of a problem, but get there we do. Meeting fellow bloggers is a way to find common ground. Conservatives are usually thoughtful people with strong convictions, but I have been able to have conversations with them. The scary posters who deserve the title of RWers and all it entails do not seem based in a reality.
As an aside – it seems that the real estate market is beginning to come back – we have a contract on one of our investment properties, but unfortunately it is with the USDA – really slow. Another property is a foreclosure by Chase we are waiting to close on – and I have never know such a messed up bank/mortgage provider [I am being kind] as Chase. Waiting to close for over 3 months for a cash purchase and they cannot find the paperwork! They are useless. Have you had any dealings with them?
Shrillary:
“…but unfortunately it is with the USDA – really slow.”
I’m trying to get a short sale closed right now. US Bank took 6 months and 7 days to approve the short sale and jacked up the amount above the sales contract twice. Now that we are wading though the unbearably slow USDA loan process for the buyer’s loan, US Bank’s panties are all in a wad demanding that we get it done. USDA is so popular because, other than VA, it is the only product that will loan nearly the entirte sales price. The funding dries up early for it, though, and the banks sometimes have to stall because of that. They never tell buyers this.
“and I have never know such a messed up bank/mortgage provider [I am being kind] as Chase. Waiting to close for over 3 months for a cash purchase and they cannot find the paperwork! They are useless. Have you had any dealings with them?”
I have to say, Chase did get a short sale approved for me a couple of months ago in short order. They’ve been pretty good in that arena. I’ve never sold a Chase-owned property before. From the sound of their REO department, I may not want to. Three months to close with cash on something already in their inventory would be awfully hard to justify. Not to make accusations, but perhaps they ordered a BPO (broker price opinion) and it came back significantly higher that the contract sales price. If this is the case, they have an incentive to hope your contract falls through. The thought crossed my mind and I have seen a bank try to squeeze the buyer more over this very thing happening.
It is incredibly obvious that the only facts that matter to the right wingers here are the ones they can distort and twist to mean what they want as opposed to what is.
You have NO PROOF at all that Biden ever repeated his “drunken” hearsay, after the family contradicted him and in fact he publicly said he had no evidence and would accept the families assertion on the issue. In other words, Biden did, what none of you are capable of, he manned up and quit repeating lies and distortions on the issue.
As for culpability, did you carry on like this over the teen Laura Bush’s accident killed? No, of course you didn’t. You are scum.
John Wilburn – Our cash offer was the highest offer on the home – but the stalling is due to Chase not being able to produce title documents…
I should think with the mess in the mortgage market, the USDA would change the policy of ‘no skin in the game’ to at least a 3-5% downpayment as it is ridiculous to have someone purchase a $200,000 without any monetary investment except for appraisal and application fees…
Shrillary:
“…but the stalling is due to Chase not being able to produce title documents…”
At the height of the quick and dirty underwriting mess, we saw some of this, but it’s not common today. I’m not surprised, though. Highest offer or not, if the BPO comes in higher, they still may rather let your offer go to chance a better one. I did stats week before last for the NRV; we are back to mid 2009 prices and slighly improving because of the increased demand a 3% interest rate and high rents create.
“I should think with the mess in the mortgage market, the USDA would change the policy of ‘no skin in the game’ to at least a 3-5% downpayment as it is ridiculous to have someone purchase a $200,000 without any monetary investment except for appraisal and application fees”
That defeats the purpose. USDA is so popular because, other than a VA disabled loan, it is the lowest money up-front of any product. 3-5% down would put them in line with FHA (not in terms of value as FHA still rips people on the high mortgage insurance premium, but in terms of money down). While I agree with you and also feel that no one is entitled to own a home versus rent, it surprises me to hear that from a committed Democrat. The VA disabled loans are actually still getting money at closing, some of them even rolling in the cost of the appraisal, a practice that I thought was gone for good.
Sandi,
As we both know, Biden intially accused the truck driver of drunk driving in 2001 in a public speech (for political gain, of course). Then, six years later in 2007, he REPEATED that falsehood in another public statement (also for political gain). And these are just the instances that are documented. Who knows how many times Biden has told this lie when the cameras weren’t on. We also know that lying seems to be a common theme for him over his career. How many times was he accused of plagiarism, Sandi? I lost count. Did plagiarism ever have an adverse effect on his political career? Plagiarism is nasty business, Sandi. It not only involves lying about your work, but it also involves stealing someone else’s work.
So, bottom line, what you are saying is, once the truck driver’s family started publicly calling Biden out for the pathetic liar he is, Biden finally stopped regurgitating his false claims regarding the incident? You are saying that once Biden was called out on his trashing of an innocent dead man’s reputation, he finally stopped the lies? Well, what an amazing man that Biden is. Good for him, Sandi. What a great example of honesty and integrity he is. A perfect leader the Democrat Party.
“In other words, Biden did, what none of you are capable of, he manned up and quit repeating lies and distortions…”–I would say this sentence from you sums it up, Sandi. The fact that he had to stop telling lies and distortions regarding the accident in the first place is pathetic, and it speaks volumes about his character. The fact that it took the pleading of the truck driver’s family for Biden to stop smearing an innocent dead man’s reputation tells it all: Biden is scum, and so is anyone else that defends his lies.
Oh Shrillary, no doubt the fiscal conservatives would indeed have fixed that problem, if only that big bad Obama had let them.
#89 & 90 Point made for my by frankie wankie and mattie. Thanks girls.
Below are the posts from Frank that I trashed. I did it after approving at least 3 other posts from him that asked the same questions.
Note that in he 3rd to the last post, he claims NONE of his posts have been trashed. And then in the last one, less than 2-1/2 hours he changes his mind about that and acknowledges they have. That’s a Mitt Romney-style flip flop!
Why did I trash them? He didn’t use any bad words. It’s just that in my judgment they were worth exactly NOTHING to this blog (and I have very low standards). Boring is the worst thing you can be here. Frank had had his say earlier.
–dan
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Submitted on 2012/10/14 at 8:33 pm
hey dano,
I appreciate you giving ol’ cue ball even more notoriety for being stupid. Nicely played!
Thanks.
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Submitted on 2012/10/14 at 8:44 pm
hey dano,
When can you enlighten your readers regarding vpjoe’s plagiarism? By now, many have looked it up, and the others remember it. They need your opinion journalist spin so you all can feel good and proud of the guy we all watched the other night remind us of what a wack-job he is.
The next topic would be, …when are you gonna tell us why obuma is doing what he’s doing, and why he’s done what he’s done, concerning the deadly Libya terrorist attacks?
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Submitted on 2012/10/14 at 8:57 pm
hey dano,
You must be afraid of writing down your opinion about vpjoe’s serial plagiarism, and how libs refuse to let that subject enter the picture when libs consider his virtues as a person, let alone someone who is one heart-beat away from being president.
Hey, dano, I bet you could do it in 18 inches or less.
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Submitted on 2012/10/15 at 9:05 am
hey warren, sheesh, i thought you were talking about ol’ teddy kennedy.
sooo, a dui is as bad as ol’ vpjoe fabricating and lying bout the “drunk driver killed my wife and daughter” routine….over decades of public life, and then he gets YOUR green light to be one heart-beat away from being the potus?
What about ol’ vpjoe’s plagiarism? What about he and obuma’s complicity in the Libya cover-up?
and hey, W’s spending WAS way out of line. Howver, his record has stood for only so long, hasn’t it? In fact, W’s a comparative piker compared to obuma.
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Submitted on 2012/10/15 at 11:41 am
hey gdummy,
Why do you libs ignore vp joe’s serial plagairism covering decades of his life?
Why do you libs ignore vp joe’s continuation of the false narrative that his wife and daughter were killed by a drunk driver?
Why do you libs ignore obuma’s failed policy regarding Libya…particularly as it relates to the security of our staff…the successful tragic terrorist attack on our Consulate…, and the obvious chaos surrounding who knew what and when among the white house, state department, and cia? hey, ol’ vp joe knocked that one out-of-the-park the other night, didn’t he? Yeah, boy.
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Submitted on 2012/10/15 at 11:53 am
hey gdummy,
Please tell us why you libs ignore vp joe’s serial plagiarizm spanning decades? Isn’t that why he dropped himself out of the 1980 run to be the democrats’ nominiation for potus? Think about it…seriously. he’s the guy who even YOU guys wouldn’t seriously consider to be potus in 1980, or even 2008 (how was ol’ joe doin’ when he dropped himself out of THAT race, eh?). He wasn’t under ANY consideration even in your own party.
What about his serial lying about his wife’s and daughter’s traffic accident….publicly alleging “known to be false” comments about their deaths having involved a drunk driver?
What about his whopper the other night…about the Libya terrorist attack?
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Submitted on 2012/10/15 at 12:17 pm
hey warren,
Bush spent way too much in my opinion.
Now, what say YOU about vp’joe’s decades long serial plagairism?
What say you about ol’ joe’s deliberate continuing of the lie that “a drunk driver was involved” in the tragic deaths of his wife and daughter?
What say you about the whopper ol’ vp joe uttered the other night about the tragic Libya fiasco?
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Submitted on 2012/10/15 at 2:22 pm
hey dano,
Why are you and your lemmings avoiding commenting on the problems you’ve got with vp joe?
Whacha think about his serial plagairism? Eh?
Whacha think about his lying…years after his wife and daughters’ tragic deaths in a car accident? you know, the one he tells about the crash being caused by a drunk truck driver? Eh?
What’s up with Libya, obuma, vp joe, al-qaeda, billary, and the “unstable” American movie maker, etc.?
I know why. By the way, your collective silence is, well, deafening.
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Submitted on 2012/10/15 at 7:39 pm
hey dano,
You haven’t trashed ANY posts from me. You are afraid to respond to any or all of the foillowing:
1. why do you libs, and the msm, give vp joe a pass for being a serial plagiariser?
2. why do you libs, and the msm, give ol’ joe a pass for his decades-old lying campaign of alleging that his wife and daughter were killed in a tragic auto accident, which involved a drunk driver?
3. Why do you libs, and the msm, give vp joe, and obuma, and billary, a pass for the fiasco which is Libya…where 4 Americans were tragically killed by terrorists…and whose deaths were NOT driven by a bad film made by an “unstable” American?
4. I’ve repeatedly used YOUR vernacular regarding column-size measurements, and repeatedly requested that you write one of your “larger” columns on any or all of the three above-referenced subjects…
…You have yet to respond.
…have ya been back to the New Yorker Restaurant yet, ol’ dano, or is that venerable Roanoke institution still on your chicken s–t list? eh?
…you’d better go incognito. …wouldn’t want the cooks to know you were there, looking to get sumpthin’ ta eat…, …would ya?
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Submitted on 2012/10/15 at 7:52 pm
hey debbie,
in my opinion, its what ol’ dano does. he ridicules and exploits…, …to further his personal political perspective, and to get his lemming lib buddies to laugh. he is after his targets’ discomfort, and applause from his lib buddies. period.
If dano were after something closer to the truth about things, he’d have offered some perspective on why he has given vp joe passes on being a serial plagairizer, and also on ol’ joe’s lie about the “drunk” truck driver ol’ joe continues to allege was involved in his wife and daughters’ deaths in a traffic accident.
Debbie,
in his own words, ol’ dano “is biased as hell”. Why should I ever believe otherwise?
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Submitted on 2012/10/15 at 10:01 pm
hey ol’dano,
I now understand that the three questions I have been raising in posts to you and libs in general, related to Biden’s long history with plagairism, the the truck driver alleged by biden to be drunk, and the tragic Libya controversy involving obama and biden, are all off limits for me to post. Are there any other topics you would like me to avoid posting on your blog?
I realize that this is your blog. You have complete control over what goes on it. I am amused however, that by your action of “trashing” my posts, you clearly are protecting your followers from seeing the simple questions I had posed to you, and libs in general.
I had anticipated a response to those questions….just not censorship.