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Prediction for the Taubman’s “new direction”: Down (and out)
Gallop national -TIE
Rasmussen national – TIE
That would be a sad day. The Taubman is an amazing addition to our community.
PP – That bodes poorly for Mitt Romney. After Obama having such a bad week, you would have thought Romney would have moved ahead at least in Rasmussen. Now with Mitt’s flip flopping on the economic plans and foreign affairs, he is getting eaten alive by the fact checkers. He had a great debate, but it just was not enough to cover up for his lack of ability and backbone.
Obama’s fundraising is under scrutiny. Obama.com was purchased by an Obama bundler in Shanghai, China. Security was dumbed down to accept Credit card contributions without security codes(IOW no physical access to the actual card).
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/329676/obama-campaign-being-financed-foreign-donations-eliana-johnson
http://twitchy.com/2012/10/08/hope-and-shady-campaign-change-buzz-builds-about-obama-camps-donor-scandal/
Democrat-controlled media getting scooped by blogs again.
Romney has told so many lies and changed his story so many times he simply can’t remember what he has said to whom. It’s truly sad to think anyone would trust him.
http://www.nationalmemo.com/lol-of-the-week-romney-etch-a-sketches-away-the-last-30-years/
Funny the fact checkers don’t check on the Prez’s perceived reality.
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/princeton-economist-obama-campaign-misrepresenting-my-study-romneys-tax-plan_653917.html
Bad whenever the source of your own commercial says you are a liar. Wonder if this will be on the news. Lesson one here when you lie make sure everyone is on board with your lie.
#3 That wasn’t the announcement, MikeC.
Here is a link that gives just a few of the myths Mitt is trying to sell. I hope you have your waders on, because the ____ is awlfully deep.
http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2012/10/04/958801/at-last-nights-debate-romney-told-27-myths-in-38-minutes/?mobile=nc
#5 You are aware, I’m sure, that this sort of claim was tried in 2008, Henry?
Richard;
Romney’s lack of ability?? When compared to the vacuum of leadership we have now? Romney dusts our President.
Hey fact checkers check this out! No lobbyists in my administration. If you pass my stimulus bill unemployment will be 5.5% at my reelection. Obamacare will decrease health insurance bills. The Arab Spring is a democratic movement. I will cut the deficit in half in my first term. Please research and get back to me.
Ole’ Joe said it all “the middle class has been buried the last 4 years”. Sucks to have to come up with something other than hope and change doesn’t it?
Sorry Ron Think Progress is like TASS. Real headline instead of Romney told however many lies it should be “Obama destroys the greatest economic engine ever created in 4 years”.
Yeah PP, I guess ol’ Beason also thinks it bodes poorly for Romney in the Gallup poll, in which he is now even after being down by five points just last week. And Obama’s leads in Va, Florida, Ohio, and Colorado have all but vanished and Wisconsin went from +7 for Obama before the debate to +2 for Obama after the debate. These are all bad signs for Romney, of course. Lol.
Members of Occupy Atlanta join local police in effort to save sick (and retired) detective’s home from foreclosure.
Liberal Ron never answered if he was bothered 0bama is still running the $5 trillion tax cut lie in his ads even after CNN and his own campaign admitted it’s a lie, that the figure is nowhere near $5 trillion.
Dan;
How about Occupy Wall Street members efforts to crap on police cars? How about Occupy Oakland attempting to shut down ports? How about Occupy Wall Street members involved in sexual assaults at events or Occupy members destroy private property? Hmmm?
For those of you who believe the Department of Labor is some kind of objective source when it spews out fake numbers like the 7.8% unemployment figure, listen to a CNBC reporter grill Secretary Hilda Solis on the lying rigged numbers.
http://www.glennbeck.com/2012/10/05/solis-confronted-by-cnbc-over-suspicious-jobs-report/
Goodness, this woman is nothing more than a political hack. Listen to her blame Congress and follow all the talking points. Good on CNBC for sticking to it, calling her the Department’s lie. So different than Airhead Soledad carrying the 0bama water on this accounting sham.
RWers rejection of reality by placing it with their “own” – much like fact – is part of their larger meme of “facts don’t matter”, however, even the conservative New Republic has endorsed the President…reality sucks, no?
The New Republic endorses President Obama – The case for reelection – October 5, 2012
“But [Obama’s] shortcomings do not compare with what his opponent might do if elected. Mitt Romney is the perfect avatar for a party in the throes of ideological convulsion. When he first considered running for president, in 2006, he seemed an archetype desperately missing from American politics. As a governor, he presented himself as a rigorous empiricist; his record formed a coherent pattern of bucking GOP orthodoxy on climate change, health care reform, and gay rights. But six years of pandering to Republican primary voters and donors will apparently distort even a first-rate mind. [...]His foreign policy is similarly wild, urging the escalation of military hostility with nations who pose no meaningful strategic threat.”
The President without “a second term, the accomplishments of his first would evaporate. This is not a poetic rallying cry, but there is human suffering to be minimized and a new foundation to defend.”
http://www.tnr.com/article/politics/magazine/108202/why-obamaism-must-live#
An economist was saying a steep unemployment drop of a half percent is unprecedented in the last 30 years. It would be equivalent to the seismic upturn the economy took under Reagan in 1983. Nobody believes anything remotely similar is happening now. Not when the underlying fundamentals are all down.
As Jack Welch said, if you can’t debate, you can still lie about numbers.
and for the RW Rasmussen fans, another dose of reality:
The Rasmussen Consumer Index, which measures consumer confidence on a daily basis, gained seven points on Monday [Oct 08, 2012] to 93.2. That’s an increase of 11 points since Friday’s jobs report. Overall, confidence is up four points from a week ago, up nine points from a month ago and up three points from three months ago.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/business/indexes/rasmussen_consumer_index/rasmussen_consumer_index
Additionally, Rasmussen has Obama moving to a 1 point lead in CO and into a 2 point lead in Iowa – the first time the President has led in Iowa in any Ras poll this year. http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2012/election_2012_presidential_election/iowa/election_2012_iowa_president
I love the smell of Romney-is-toast in the morning…
Ok, so not as much bad news as I was expecting from the Taubman…
What I want to know is, was the Advance money (no pun) specifically earmarked for free admission? Because otherwise I would think that it would be better spent on general expenses. And how long does $150,000 worth cover?
Don’t get me wrong, I don’t *want* the Taubman to fail; I just don’t see how the numbers could possibly work out the way they are going. Too much of that large building space (on prime real estate) is wasted, or sits unused for too much of the time. And unless the free admission encourages lots of gift-shop spending sprees, I’m not sure how it helps the bottom line…?
I would like to note that even as Henry and James Swingle regularly berate Dan, his blog and his POV, they nonetheless value bloggers enough to source them as fact givers.
Hey Henry, if you bother to read the report your link is based on, it is not only President Obama who may be getting foreign donations. Not that you care about that of course.
http://campaignfundingrisks.com/wp-
content/themes/cfr/images/AmericaTheVulnerable.pdf
James Swingle, when your operative words are “assuming” and “plausible”, that is not vindication, that is CYA in action. Romney has not given any economist enough information to “evaluate” anything he plans to do and hey admit it with their wiggle language.
Do you have any source that is not right wing media?
Let’s try that link again:
http://campaignfundingrisks.com/wp-content/themes/cfr/images/AmericaTheVulnerable.pdf
#19 “An economist was saying,” suzie? Who? Where?
Yes Suzie, we are well aware that you cannot debate and that you are more than willing to lie. So is Jack Welch except, like you, he cannot figure out how, he just “knows” it was done. And when Romney is in the White House, we can miraculously trust all these government entities and their statistics again. Odd how you all were so willing to tout them when they were bad numbers that worked in your favor with nary a question.
Only when they prove the economy is improving do you suddenly show doubt and angst that “someone” is lying.
…”BLS is not manipulating data. Evidence of such would be a scandal of enormous proportions & loss of credibility,” Tony Fratto, former deputy press secretary to President George W. Bush, wrote on Twitter.
Steve Haugen, an economist at the BLS who has been involved in the process of analyzing jobs data for nearly 30 years, flatly dismissed the idea that there was any way the White House or Obama campaign could have had a hand in how the numbers turned out.
“The data are not manipulated for political reasons. I’ve been involved in the process myself for almost three decades. There’s never been any political manipulation of the data, period,” Haugen told CBSNews.com.”
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57526845/on-jobs-numbers-bls-vows-theres-no-conspiracy/
The process is explained for the simple minded.
Yes, leave it to the intrepid and insane Glenn Beck to ferret out the “truth”, and his insane minions to post it here. God help America!
“I love the smell of Romney-is-toast in the morning…”
Was that before or after the scorching of Obama at the debate?
This is funny. Numerous polls have come out recently, from left-wing groups, “independent groups”, and right-wing groups, all essentially showing a pretty dramatic shift in the race towards Romney. But here is Shrill, trying to talk herself into believing that this election is over.
Romney is still running the 8.1% unemployment lie and the “promise” lie in his ads, so the %5 trillion (4.8 trillion rounded) is hardly a lie from Obama.
Shrill, you never commented on how obama’s lead in Ohio has evaporated over the last week.
Oh, and Shrill, how many days or weeks does that Colorado poll encompass?
most ill-informed @15 – please direct me to the link regarding the lie supposed by President Obama about Romney’s addition of $5 trillion to the deficit…
Here are the facts drawn from the CBO on the information that the Romney campaign provided on his budget proposals. Romney’s lies…where he touts no impact on the middle class – all which is bull according to his own budget scored by the CBO – that he would not cut “essential” programs – ["Nondefense discretionary spending would be cut by $133 billion in 2016 — and $1.3 trillion through 2022 — if Medicare is subject to cuts."], that he could increase the military budget and not impact the deficit ["The Romney plan would increase core defense spending to $7.8 trillion"]. …on and on and on with his lies. The old, the young, the middle class [ income up to $250.000] and everything in between will be cut, programs that touch almost every American’s life.
http://www.cbpp.org/cms/?fa=view&id=3658
on the $5 trillion lie:
Republican candidate Romney has previously proposed cutting tax rates across the board by 20% – that 20%, in addition to continuing the Bush tax cuts, increases the deficit by $5 trillion.
An analysis by the non-partisan Tax Policy Center of Romney’s economic plan and was suggesting that Romney’s tax proposal would “cost $480 trillion over a 10-year period.”
Romney sounding very presidential this morning at VMI. He’s laying out his foreign policy principles in a sensible logical manner, In complete contrast with the ridiculous stuff 0bama is spouting. “Al Queda is defeated”.
That’s an increase of 11 points since Friday’s jobs report. The ‘jobs’ report was put out by the 0bama administration. It’s a fraud.
@21 Regarding the Taubman, the free admission gift sounds a lot like a last “hoorah” from my point of view.
Surprise, surprise, surprise:
http://tinyurl.com/8c389dx
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Congress members back legislation that could benefit themselves, relatives
By Kimberly Kindy, David S. Fallis and Scott Higham, Published: October 7
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Those lawmakers were among 73 members of Congress who have sponsored or co-sponsored legislation in recent years that could benefit businesses or industries in which either they or their family members are involved or invested, according to a Washington Post analysis. The findings emerge from an examination by The Post of financial disclosure forms and public records for all 535 members of the House and Senate.
The practice is both legal and permitted under the ethics rules that Congress has written for itself, which allow lawmakers to take actions that benefit themselves or their families except when they are the lone beneficiaries. The financial disclosure system Congress has implemented also does not require the legislators to identify potential conflicts at the time that they take official actions that intersect or overlap with their investments.
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Good point Mark.
Gdad, “#3 That wasn’t the announcement, MikeC.”
I don’t think I said anything about what the announcement would be, did I? So I don’t really understand why you said that.
#1 made a prediction, and I said that it would be sad.
The Taubman is an amazing cultural organization and, I believe, a vital cog in our vibrant downtown. It’s a bummer that its very existence seems to bother so many people.
What’s happened to all the hit-piece threads on Romney? I guess the DNC spinners have been too busy lately to distribute talking points
So if y’all on the right are so convinced of Rmoney’s inevitable victory now, shouldn’t you be in better moods or something?
MikeC, I think a lot of people in Roanoke act like it would be some moral victory or whatever to see it shut down. It’s bizarre.
@38 Suzie, they’ve had to clean up and detract from that debate last week. Plus they need to get the points ready for Crazy Ol’ Joe.
Yes, leave it to the intrepid and insane Glenn Beck to ferret out the “truth”, and his insane minions to post it here. God help America!
Honey, Glenn Beck had nothing to do with the CNBC video of its reporter grilling the Secretary of Labor. How did I knew someone would try to make it about Glenn Beck in order to divert?
Speaking of the rent, what would you pay for a 8×10-foot condo?
http://tinyurl.com/8oompgu
Dan
Where is the “polls, polls, polls!!!” thread?
Thoughts?
http://tinyurl.com/8oompgu
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Get flu shot or lose job
KCNC|Added on October 5, 2012
Some Colorado hospitals are beginning to phase in a new state law that requires flu shots for health care workers.
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What is next?
11. James – Romney?? He remains a flip flopping joke. He has no platform, shows no leadership skills, and out lies, Lying Ryan. He hs completely left the Republican Platform in the dust (you know the one the Tea Party put together for the Convention.) You now are seeing the liberal Romney you were all so afraid of. How long will this version last?
38. Suzie. hit pieces? You can’t hit something moving as fast as Romney from right to left. Never has anyone seen a candidate completely drop his party’s platform in just a month. You should be proud he stands on his convictions. You know the one conviction – say anything to get a vote.
Something strange is going on with Gallup. Yesterday, they had the race as a tie. Today, 0bama has supposedly opened up a five-point lead. Inexplicably.
Late last week, Gallup also had 0bama up by five. NYT mouthpiece Nate Silver yesterday said Gallup lagged behind the other polls that showed Romney surging because it was a 7-day rolling average that had yet to record all the post-debate sentiment. Yet today, the sudden 0bama surge in Gallup is attributed to the phony jobs report on Friday. Only three days later. Amazing!
Should we remind folks Gallup is currently under investigation by the 0bama JD? They’d better play ball or else.
@ post 38 – the number scored by the CBO was $4.80 trillion, not
$480 trillion.
and the joke of Romney sounding “presidential”…he was speaking today to a student population, with no public allowed…he just hates having to deal with the 47% he so disdains, no?
#30 Marked Man – having a problem with researching on your own?
Yes, how did you “knew” that linking to glennbeck.com would receive more notice than their ignorance? The diverting was all on you. Solis told the truth and right wingers cannot handle it. Nothing new there.
I think the news about the Taubman is good news and I hope the free admission will create buzz and interest from people who have not tried it yet. Good luck to a prize in Roanoke’s crown.
Hillary Clinton is known as one of the all time great Secretaries of State. the World recognizes Obama’s leadership as the Middle East continues the upheaval started by the Iraq War. GWB said the war would bring democracy to the Middle East and force the Countries there to move toward it. He was right, it has and now we must adjust to it. Obama and Hillary have worked hard to control the change.
No policies Mitt says he can do it better, yet he does not even have the support of his own party on military spending, on Iran, on Afghanistan, on Egypt, on Syria, on Libya. He fails to even mention the most serious of all our foreign affairs, Pakistan. Mitt is an ego maniac that truly believes he is better at everything, yet has no clue as to policy making. He is a disaster waiting to happen.
“Dan
Where is the “polls, polls, polls!!!” thread?”
I’m doing those every Tuesday, Terps. Relax. It’ll be up tomorrow.
Yesterday, Rasmussen had Romney up 2. Today, Rasmussen is a tie. Clearly, whatever bounce Romney got from the debate is fading quickly.
#32 If your idea of “presidential” is to attempt to scare and threaten people. More guns!!!
The funny thing is that the Obama merchandise site does require a CVV number. But you can donate money to Obama without it. It appears Moran and Warner are both as vulnerable to the illegal contributions as Obama. I wonder if their site is owned by someone in China.
Suzie. hit pieces? You can’t hit something moving as fast as Romney from right to left. Never has anyone seen a candidate completely drop his party’s platform in just a month.
Which part of the platform did he drop, Richard?
#47 – most ill-informed. Actual fact regarding the only lawsuit going forward against Gallup by the DOJ – which has alleged fraud in billing the US government [by Gallup] :
“Gallup, known as one of the premier polling firms with respect to presidential politics, had contracts to conduct surveys for the U.S. Mint and the State Department in addition to other government agencies.”
“According to the whistleblower’s complaint, Gallup violated the False Claims Act by giving the government inflated estimates of the number of hours that it would take to perform its services, even though it had separate and lower internal estimates of the number of hours that would be required,” the Justice Department explained. “The complaint further alleges that the government paid Gallup based on the inflated estimates, rather than Gallup’s lower internal estimates.” http://washingtonexaminer.com/doj-sues-gallup-polling-firm/article/2505617#.UHMVVa7fgQ4
As for the changing polls which you seem unable to understand – some reality:
As the lies became fact checked, Romney’s gains stalled due to 1) news outlets and other media reporting on Romney’s lying and 2) the good BLS’ jobs numbers that REALLY got a lot of positive press – including the delusional RW response claiming the numbers were false – this kept the great jobs report front and center.
By Friday [Oct 5th] the narrative on social media had changed to Obama won and Romney lost due to Romney’s lying. This study was widely publicized on Saturday [Oct 6th] by the NBCnews website which used a tool called ForSighton.
“However, to the point of the social media backlash, the debate bounce is not a shift in the electorate precisely for the reasons people were citing on social media; the public does not find Romney trustworthy or presidential”. [...]So, Romney ‘won’ the debate but did nothing he needed to do in order to present himself as more presidential.”
http://www.politicususa.com/medias-sad-debate-performance-busted-social-media.html
In other words Romney won, for the moment, the “Miss Congeniality” contest, but he will not win the crown….
Hillary’s tenure as SecofState will tee her up nicely for her run for President in 4 years.
DaveHicks, a couple of years ago I was at the doctor here – a Lewis Gale facility – and was told by the receptionist that everyone had to either get a flu shot or wear a mask. I’ve been told the same by Carilion people, even those in support staff who don’t deal with patients.
Richard,
I think Ambassador Stevens might question your assertion.
OK, needed to get off the UN thread. My apologies for being drawn into Mark and suzie’s BS over there.
But, MMM, bud, let me do you a favor and point out that you’re once again headed into some sort of a manic, persnickety, doddering grandmother stage where you feel the need to point out a missing “b” in a word, or you attack a person who kindly answers a question for you, or you essentially accuse honorable leaders of one of the country’s top senior military college programs of lying, or you decide that you know more about why a guy closed his business than he knows. It’s truly weird. Maybe it’s the sad state of the Hokie football team or maybe you shot couple of bad rounds of golf, but you need to step back from the keyboard until you’ve salvaged some semblance of sanity. Save yourself the embarrassment.
What I find interesting about the polls..and I actually looked at Huffington Post to get this.
All the polls where Romney is tied or ahead. They have surveyed WAY more people. The polls where Obama is ahead, LESS people were surveyed.
Just thought I would throw that out for discussion. Here is the link:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/08/presidential-polls_n_1947777.html
Re: Comment by Richard J Beason, CPA — October 8, 2012 @ 1:15 pm
Platforms are seldom, if ever enacted. At best they are symbolic appeals to a spectrum of somewhat diverse elements of a party.
We vote for, elect, and are governed by politicians. Hence the importance of personal evaluations. The nature of the person is logically relevant to deciding for whom to vote.
What you see is what you get. In some cases what you see is a simple weathervane that tell one nothing about the true candidate — save that candiate’s lack of integrity, lack of credibility, lack of reasoned consistence, lack of a cogency of position independently of the publicly manipulated identity, too much buzz words/code words, too much appeal to strong emotions intended to subvert rational thought, etc.
Re: Comment by Richard J Beason, CPA — October 8, 2012 @ 1:38 pm
About a month old, but….
http://tinyurl.com/8ppwhfb
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Is America Ready for a Male Secretary of State?
Running Foggy Bottom is a tough job — maybe too tough for a man.
BY JOHN NORRIS | SEPTEMBER 24, 2012
Foreign policy has long been one of the last great bastions of sexism. But as glass ceiling after glass ceiling is shattered in Washington, the time has come to ask when one of the last great barriers will be overcome: Is America ready for a male secretary of state?
From a theoretical standpoint, there is no real reason that a man couldn’t do the job. But in the salons of Georgetown and the halls of Foggy Bottom, there continues to be a steady undercurrent of chatter that a man just wouldn’t be up to it. Right or wrong, here are some of the justifications foreign-policy insiders cite when they make the case that appointing a man as the highest-ranking diplomat in the land would be an overreach.
First and foremost, many wonder whether a man would have the necessary endurance to do the job. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has visited more than 100 nations during her tenure, flown 897,951 miles, and spent 376 days abroad. By making it to 110 countries in just one term, Clinton broke the previous record for most countries visited by a secretary: 98, held by Madeleine Albright. And although Condoleezza Rice visited fewer countries, she did log more than a million miles in the air. Not many men can point to those kinds of frequent flyer miles.
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Love it!
Dan
You nailed it. Romney won the only fair battle…a debate. Now Obama has resorted to character assasination again in order regain the lead. How inspiring!
Running a half-empty,sinking ship of a museum must be really hard work……180,000 dollars a year to run the place? And wonder why the Taubman is having financial “difficulties” ?
And just a few weeks ago, Romney was condemning the Libyans and then the President for his NOT overreacting to an attack on the Benghazi consulate…and today,the new and “improved” Mitt at VMI:
“We saw all of this in Benghazi last month—but we also saw something else, something hopeful. After the attack on our Consulate, tens of thousands of Libyans, most of them young people, held a massive protest in Benghazi against the very extremists who murdered our people. They waved signs that read, “The Ambassador was Libya’s friend” and “Libya is sorry.” They chanted “No to militias.” They marched, unarmed, to the terrorist compound. Then they burned it to the ground. As one Libyan woman said, “We are not going to go from darkness to darkness.”
And Romney today on nation building – something which we already unsuccessfully tried under the Bush Doctirne:
“Our friends and allies across the globe do not want less American leadership. They want more—more of our moral support, more of our security cooperation, more of our trade, and MORE OF OUR ASSISTANCE IN BUILDING FREE SOCIETIES AND THRIVING ECONOMIES.” [my caps]
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/09/us/politics/mitt-romney-remarks-at-virginia-military-institute.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
I love how Romney will commit us to defend lots of countries in this speech without ONE ROMNEY EVER SERVING IN THE MILITARY – it is so easy to warmonger [think Bush/Cheney] when it’s other people’s children who will be sacrificed – not one of his 5 sons…hypocrite and coward.
No problem, Dan. Just thought Kristen and gdad may like to know that people who have graduated from college and who write guides to the American English agree that the use of ‘me’ or ‘I’ in Suzie’s post for example is standard and accepted either way.
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Declinism is America and Mitt Can Too
Doomsday prophesying is a favorite American pastime, but Mitt Romney wants no part of it (anymore).
BY TY MCCORMICK | OCTOBER 8, 2012
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Mitt Romney, who has spent much of the election season claiming the other guy is the declinist, actually made a modest, but thoughtful contribution to the genre with his 2010 memoir No Apology. In a chapter titled “Why Nations Decline,” Romney admits that the “improbability of decline by the great has long piqued my interest.” He goes on to observe that “No great power in history has endured indefinitely.” The Ottomans, the Portuguese, the Spanish, and the British — all great powers in their day — eventually crumbled, one after another. In Romney’s estimation, each succumbed to some combination of isolationism, protectionism, profligacy, or cultural decay. Each ignored the warning signals of impending collapse, “turning their ears instead to the comforting voices that claimed continuity and comfort.” Now, Romney argues, it is America that is spending too lavishly and borrowing too heavily. America’s culture — defined by hard work, educational attainment, risk taking, and religiosity, according to Romney — is “under attack.” Indeed, he writes, “each of the conditions that existed in the failed great states of the past is present in America today. This alone is cause for concern.”
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Conscious of this fact, Romney has sought to portray his opponent as the real declinist: “Obama thinks America’s in decline. It is if he’s president. It’s not if I’m president,” the former governor charged last December in a debate with fellow Republican presidential contenders. A certain amount of, shall we say, clarification is necessary to sell his candidacy — backsliding under Obama is, after all, why he claims to be running — but lately Romney has been careful not to suggest that America’s problems are larger than what the incumbent administration could have created. Even in his blistering Sept. 30 op-ed in the Wall Street Journal, Romney made sure to attribute the “atrophy” of American leadership specifically to the Obama administration. Ditto for the failure to “maintain the elements of our influence.”
Romney’s pivot from the sweeping historical comparison of No Apology to the pointed criticism of Obama’s record is perhaps what you would expect in a presidential campaign. What is remarkable is that he’s managed to get away with it. Not only has Romney shed his declinist identity with ease, but he succeeded in pinning it on his opponent. That’s no small feat.
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Re: my last
Left out the link: http://tinyurl.com/9vzs3za Sorry.
Unlike some others here, I always try to substantiate my claims and to provide proper attribution.
61. Jack J Maniscalco – Actually Jack, per the conference I attended last Friday with P J Crowley, Former Assistant Secretary of State, Ambassador Stevens would say exactly that. Ambassador Stevens was a hero who knew the dangers of working in a foreign Nation that had recently undergone a revolution. He certainly knew his life was in danger each and every day. But, he chose to not be locked behind a wall of security because it is impossible for an Ambassador to do their job under such security. Ambassadors have to be on the street, know the people of the towns and cities they work in. Ambassador Stevens proudly did what all of our Ambassadors do, risk their lives to help make the world a better place. Read “The Other War: Winning and Losing in Afghanistan” by Ret. Amb. Ronald E. Neumann (GWB Administration) if you want some more information about the dangers our State Department Staff lives with.
That is what is so insulting about your candidate Romney. At a time of unbelievable sorry at the State Department and for Amb. Stevens family, he clumsily plays politics. His speech today was more of the same. Romney is trying to be a neocon cowboy but has no knowledge of State, of foreign policy, of what is taking place by the Obama Administration in protecting our world on a daily basis. Obviously you have bought into his bravado without understanding what it means to be an Ambassador in a country filled with strife.
Dave Hicks, thanks for the research.
Going to pay that rent? What’s in your wallet?
http://tinyurl.com/93nb2y4
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3 Years in, Bitcoin Digital Money Gains Momentum
The digital currency exchange network now includes more than 1,000 merchants and at least tens of thousands of unaffiliated users, as it tries to solve barriers to participation
By Morgen Peck
Cowrie shells, strips of leather, huge stone discs, decorated rectangles of paper. They all share something in common: at one time, people used them as currency. In 2009, when Bitcoin went live, ones and zeros were added to the list. And like each new format that preceded it, this digital currency has changed a few of money’s core concepts, including who controls it and how and where it gets spent.
Nowadays Bitcoin adopters are providing some clues about the benefits of a decentralized, anonymous, digital currency. For instance, independent merchants use it to receive online payments directly from customers, WikiLeaks uses it to dodge financial barricades, and drug users use Bitcoin to shop anonymously on the Internet’s black market. But not everything works smoothly. The system lacks a quick way for people to trade in their physical cash for Bitcoins. Foreign currency exchanges don’t deal in Bitcoins, and finding someone to sell them in person remains a huge challenge. A few of the online exchanges that do exist have lost huge amounts of their customers’ Bitcoins to hackers—a combined sum now worth over one million dollars—whereas the more stable ones require users to self-identify in a way that undermines the network’s anonymity. And although the number of merchants using Bitcoin is growing, one still can’t find very many places to spend them. At a conference this month in London, Bitcoin’s core developers and many of those who are building applications to make it more user-friendly confronted the currency’s setbacks of the past year and planned a course forward intended to elevate it from a niche technophile currency into one that competes with physical money on all levels.
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Mr. Swingle,
All Think Progress did in the link I provided was list 27 specific quotes from Mr. Romney during the recent debate. They then pointed out the mythology of Mr. Romney’s statements. They didn’t make up things and attribute them to Mr. Romney. They used his own words. The truth hurts sometimes. It will also set you free.
No, Shrill, I don’t have a researching problem. I just wondered if you researched it and also came up with the same conclusion I did…
…that your Colorado poll that shows obama ahead contains… wait for it.. one day’s worth of data.
Although I have been playing exceptional golf and VT football is still playing much better than UVA (like that is difficult), why resort to any personal attacks gdad?
You and Kristen both said essentially that Suzie’s use of me vs I was incorrect. I simply showed that both of you are incorrect… at least to someone that has written the Columbia Guide to American English.
To all the saber rattlers and war mongers everywhere, I have some required reading for you. “War is a Racket”, by retired United States Marine Corps Major General and two time Medal of Honor recipient Smedley D. Butler.
And “The War Prayer” by Mark Twain.
I don’t expect these works to change your minds. I just want you to think for a change.
Dan
I just can’t wait for your “polls, polls, polls!!” thread.
Pew has Romney up by FOUR!!! Is Pew another fat “white guy” that you don’t trust?
Suzie – Mitt no longer supports tax cuts if they increase the deficit or increases taxes on the middle class. As has been shown time and again by all tax authorities including the CBO, Mitt cannot cit rates and not increase the deficit under any amount of growth or cutting of deductions. By declaring he will not cut taxes if it increases the deficit or raises taxes on the middle class, he has abandoned that part of the GOP platform. His addition of those statements shows he does not have a clue after ranting about cutting taxes for 18 months, he now is trying to wiggle out from them sincce they will not work. That includes the Bush Tax Cuts since extending those will increase the deficit.
Mitt seeks to limit itemized deductions to $17,000 per year. That will 1. create additional inequity in the tax system )GOP platform calls for an equitable tax system) and limit charitable deductions (GOP Platform calls for charitable contributions to remain deductible).
The GOPO Platform wants a Supermajority for tax increases and caps on spending, yet Mitt is proposing his own plans for tax increases (th e17,000 limit increases taxes on the middle class) and hi sown plans for cutting medicare and medicaid that do not correspond to those established by the House.
The GOP Platform seeks to build infrastructure in the US. Yet Mitt is only proposing cuts to domestic spending ruling out infrastructure spending.
The GOP wants to do away with at least a half dozen regulations on the environment, banks,employers, yet Mitt now says the government needs regulations and he will not make the wholesale cuts the GOP listed.
The GOP wants a metallic money standard, ROmney is not for that.
The GOP wants a world economy built on competition, Mitt want to use tariffs and penalties to limit competition.
The GOP wants out of wars and foreign conflicts, Mitt wants to bomb Iran, arm the Syrian Rebels, end our foreign policies in Egypt, Libya, Russia, China. All policies the GOP has supported.
Mitt has chosen his own policies and left the GOP Platform behind.
Shrillary,
What did Obama do in the military again? Aside from doubling the amount of casualties in Afghanistan? And criticizing Bush about the War he continued? And ordering the killing of a lot of Muslims?
I guess that makes Obama a hypocrite and a coward.
When Gallup has Romney up, it is the best poll in the nation, when they don’t they are scared of the DOJ. You are more predictable than Gallup or Romney. On that we can all agree.
Yada Yada Yada
When Rasmussen has Romney up, they are the most reliable poll in the nation, when they don’t, it is all just left wing loons influencing a once great institution.
When Obama wins, this will all have been a vast left wing conspiracy to bring down an honorable man (who has lied through his dental work) through no fault of his own.
Very thought provoking: http://tinyurl.com/8mqx3qx
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Does the Growing Exposure of Scientific Fraud in Social Psychology have Implications for Behavioral Law & Economics?
Todd Zywicki • October 8, 2012 3:40 pm
In case you missed it, Daniel Kahneman has issued a warning to social psychologists [ http://tinyurl.com/8m33nfr ], whose field has been rocked recently by a series of exposures of high-level scientific fraud and falsification by several social psychologists. All of them work in the same general field. One thing I wondered reading the story is whether it is typical for these sorts of “fraud clusters” to emerge in certain fields as opposed to just isolated rogue researchers. Does anyone know?
As for law, I’m wondering whether the scandal has any serious implications for behavioral law and economics. A quick Westlaw search of the JLR database reveals that the three researchers noted in the article (Diederik Stapel, Dirk Smeesters and Lawrence Sanna) have been cited by name 32 times in law review articles, primarily behavioral law and economics articles (this excludes any cites, if they exist, where their names are not explicitly cited, such as being part of an “et al.” author cite).
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Also see: http://www.nature.com/polopoly_fs/7.6716.1349271308!/suppinfoFile/Kahneman%20Letter.pdf & http://tinyurl.com/bs4l697 & http://tinyurl.com/7mtgawa
So what did Rmoney say today at VMI about what he considers the
top strategic threat to the U.S. in 2012, namely, Russia?
Sandi, re: “there’s never been any political manipulation of the data”…
This administration has manipulated the uninformed so often this phrase means very little. Including recently, the terrorist murders in Libya.
Logic alone dictates that when you do not have enough jobs created to account for population growth the unemployment number should not decrease by a significant amount. Even the liberal news outlets question the numbers put out.
However, reading “your” post you find that the author is hedging and suggesting that the number is incorrect.
Sadly this administration, which promised to be the most honest, has proven to be the most dishonest. Who can be surprised they the numbers are only believed by those who have their heads firmly planted in the donkey’s hinder parts?
Richard,
You are wasting words trying to convince anyone that Romney is something other than a well qualified businessman and proven political middle of the road leader; not to mention and extremely qualified presidential candidate; and a very nice person.
Your attempts at separating the party fall on deaf ears, as do your attempts to project obama’s weaknesses (ie… ego maniac).
I suggest you try a new tact, as (I believe) the populace has figured out that tired trick; just like they have figured out that changing the term from “liberal” to “progressive” do not change the insanity of the concepts.
Kristen re: 2:15 pm.
Unfortunately for Hillary, she hitched her wagon to this corrupt administration ( I am sure against Bill’s advice).
Should obama win, they will use her as a scapegoat for the inept handling of security in the Libya terrorist murders; should obama lose she will fall with them.
Actually a sad commentary because, I believe, she would have been a much better president than obama, because she would have actually done the “job” instead of just wanting the “title”.
Excellent words during the ‘debate’ at VMI today by Romney.
‘Debate?’, you ask? Well it might as well be because obama didn’t show up for this one either.
Shrill,
I am still trying to figure out why almost every one of your posts includes gratuitous name calling; are you so insecure in your opinions that you find that necessary? You remind me of the obamaphone woman who can only respond that “Romney sucks”…
Re: 3:45 pm…
“American leadership” does not always does not always equate to “military action”. However, it does mean that we “lead”… and not “lead from behind”… it does mean that we are respected, and yes, feared by any potential adversary.
This administration has defined us as a toothless tiger; more apt to run away when things get tough, than to finish a job we start. This has cost the death of hundreds of “other people’s children”, which is something you should think more soberly about.
#77 Personal attacks, MMM? Just some honest observations about your recent return to aberrant posting behavior and some sage advice. That’s all.
“Shrill,
I am still trying to figure out why almost every one of your posts includes gratuitous name calling . . .”
–Comment by mike O.
18 MINUTES EARLIER:
“Richard . . .
Your attempts at separating the party fall on deaf ears, as do your attempts to project obama’s weaknesses (ie… ego maniac).”
–Comment by mike O.
You can’t make this stuff up!
““Romney sucks””
Roger that…
“Even the liberal news outlets question the numbers put out.”
We’ll need a link for that. Thanks in advance.
Hey dano,
This one’s for you, although I’d be interested in perspectives offered by others, both libs and not!
Regarding page 4 of yesterday’s RTs, why did the RTs’ newsperson decide to run a wire piece saying that “Ambassador Steven’s killing, along with 3 other Americans on 9/11/12, was the result of the American made film”?
Also, why, also in yesterday’s RTs, did the smart editorial writer contradict the RTs’ newsroom, and write that obama has changed his tune, and is now singing that “it was terrorists which killed Stevens and the other Americans”.
And, why did the RTs smart editorial writer also clearly state that the only reason obuma changed his tune from the film-maker to the terrorists was because a whistleblower forced him to? Eh?
#86: “(Rmoney is a) proven political middle of the road leader”-comment by mikeO
Earlier this year Rmoney called himself “severely conservative”.
So mike O is calling Rmoney a liar.
mike o @88 – You make no sense. RW is not “gratuitous name calling” – you are what you post, and if you identify with my RW label, well, you recognize yourself, and that is a good thing…of course, you ignore those on the right who actually “name call” and you seem never to take exception to those spurious comments from the right [ex libtards, idiots, commies blah, blah blah] or did I miss your pointing out their “gratuitous name calling”?
Hypocrisy from right as expected…
Dan, LMAO
Re: “you can’t make this stuff up”
I will attempt to assist you in comprehension. However, given that I have read the bona fides put forth by you and your worshipers, one would think it unnecessary; lest you be “projecting”, as is the method operandi of most liberals in need.
As you quoted, shrill almost always includes gratuitous name calling. The point in hand she called Romney a “hypocrite” and a “coward” with no validation or substantiation.
I merely repeated Richard’s weak attempt to project on Romney, that which (even obama’s supporters suggest) as a character issue. One might only look at the “excuses” for his debate from his own “supporters”.
I understand your attempt at the “typical liberal” response, but you should endeavor to rise above this.
@81 Comment by Henry — October 8, 2012 @ 4:38 pm
“What did Obama do in the military again? Aside from doubling the amount of casualties in Afghanistan? And criticizing Bush about the War he continued? And ordering the killing of a lot of Muslims?
I guess that makes Obama a hypocrite and a coward.”
Well thank you for asking:
^ President Obama did not serve [just like St Ronnie Reagan] however, the President ‘s grandfather was a veteran – NOT ONE person from the Romney family EVER served in the military and fought for this country including his 5 sons. Romney could not even bother to mention veterans now serving, in his acceptance speech in FL.
^ After 8 years running around free in Afghanistan and Pakistan while GW Bush was president, President Obama, unlike GW Bush, had Osama bin Laden killed in three years after taking office.
^ After GW Bush started the unnecessary war in Iraq in 2002, President Obama ended it as he promised on December 18, 2011.
^ President Obama gave an end date for the Afghanistan War [2014] unlike the previous president.
^ Of course in the stats you offer, you failed to mention that an increase of 30,000 surge troops to make up the abysmal number of boots on the ground left by GW Bush [when he diverted our troops to oil rich Iraq] also correspondingly increased the casualties. The number of casualties were in proportion to the surge necessitated to protect the troops on the ground and the US secured areas of Afghanistan.
^ The “war he continued” was on the advice of the generals. Had the President ignored the generals, you would be complaining he didn’t “listen to the advice of the military”…again with the hypocrisy.
^ Your faux concern over the “killing of a lot of Muslims” makes me cry crocodile tears…again, the hypocrisy.
^ By my calculation, all of these FACTS neither makes the President a hypocrite nor a coward…but of course, you being stuck with Romney, what else can you say?
So what did Chicken-Hawk Obama do in the military again?
hey you libs! Where are the greenie pansies…out in California, all happily prancing around chanting, “horray for higher gasoline prices”! That is exactly what they and the pres WANT, right? Where are the cheers from the libs?
Hey ol’ dano, and dano’s monger sandi, the bobsey twins, stevie c, cold, art…where are the cheers of “hip, hip, horray” for higher gas prices”?
Hey Marked Man @76 – have a complaint about the poll? Take it up with Rasmussen – you know that friendly right-leaning pollster…
“The data are not manipulated for political reasons. I’ve been involved in the process myself for almost three decades. There’s never been any political manipulation of the data, period,” Haugen told CBSNews.com.”
Nice try, hon. 0bama hacks control the Dept of Labor. The Secretary mouthed his talking points word for word.
You and Kristen both said essentially that Suzie’s use of me vs I was incorrect. I simply showed that both of you are incorrect… at least to someone that has written the Columbia Guide to American English.
Marked Man,
Maybe Gdad and Kristen were both altering their dialect. They claim to do that on occasion.
88. Mike O – that is exactly what I have been saying “convince anyone that Romney is something other than a well qualified businessman and proven political middle of the road leader”. He is no longer the RW conservative all the tea Party has insisted upon. He has flip flopped again. He makes a good businessman where he can change from day to day what he think, but is a lousy politician that has no principles. Mike O – you are so right.
“Obama hacks control the Dept of Labor. The Secretary mouthed his talking points word for word.”
From far-right hacks there’s all kinds of whining that the Labor Department data is cooked. But there is not one iota of evidence this is so.
The hilarious thing is, the RWers don’t seem to realize that, if the Obama administration was smart enough to cook those books, they would have been smart enough to do it many months ago, to deny the GOP their chief issue in this presidential campaign.
So this is just more cynical loudmouthery, driven by some who know better but are telling the uneducated and irrational what they want to hear, and some who don’t know any better.
Mike O – I would not try to convince you of anything any more than I would Suzie. I am laughing at you because your King RW Mitt has left the building and all of the great stuff you guys have been bragging about for two years has been washed off his plate. Vote your heart out for Mitt – today he is a social liberal with a wish for more foreign wars. Just what the Tea Party ordered. LMAO
Anyone notice an echo here:
http://tinyurl.com/8h75kee
…”well-orchestrated effort of the media, investigators, the system, Penn State, psychologists (and) civil attorneys….”
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Sound like some who post here?
Hum?
Typical right wingers, if you have nothing else, lie. Romney didn’t teach you that, but I sure think you taught him. No wonder he thinks his lies are okay! You prove it daily.
Henry – The Commander in Chief has taken on Pakistan over and over as promised in 2008. By all accounts by the State Department, by the Pentagon, by private think tanks, by retired State Department from Bush Administration – Pakistan is our biggest problem, not China, not Iran, not Libya.
Obama has stood strong against the enemies there, continuing to use every method at our disposal to limit and control Pakistan. Iran is in so much trouble no one believes they will go ahead and develope a nuclear weapon. In fact, the only way they would is if they are attacked and forced to go ahead in order to protect themselves. If they wanted a weapon, they could easily buy one from North Korea. They have not and will not because it will cause all their enemies to acquire them. Iran is afraid what will happen in Pakistan should they acquire a weapon.
Read a little bit on the subject, then look at where your military hawk Mitt wants to get involved. He never ever mentions Pakistan because he knows nothing about foreign affairs.
From far-right hacks there’s all kinds of whining that the Labor Department data is cooked. But there is not one iota of evidence this is so
Of course there is. The book-cooking comes in where they drop a million people from the rolls who have been unemployed for a period of time. September’s labor participation rate is less than July’s. 0bama is conning you. When food-stamp use and welfare start dropping, then we might believe the data.
Yo, Frank,
Big oil is sticking it to the state with 50+ electoral votes, hoping simpletons like yourself will blame the president. Try and keep up.
hey you libs! Where are the greenie pansies…out in California, all happily prancing around chanting, “horray for higher gasoline prices”! That is exactly what they and the pres WANT, right? Where are the cheers from the libs?
Comment by Frank — October 8, 2012 @ 6:49 pm
Frank, in 2006, the California Legislature passed and Governor Schwarzenegger signed AB 32, the Global Warming Solutions Act of 2006, which set the 2020 greenhouse gas emissions reduction goal into law. Last time I checked Governor Schwarzenegger was a Republican. He was also a serial philanderer, but that’s another issue.
“So what did Chicken-Hawk Obama do in the military again?’
The same thing as chicken-hawk Romney and his spawn. Thanks for playing!
Michigan hybrid parts plant was built with a $150 million federal grant to make batteries for electric cars, including the Volt, but now before producing its first battery, it’s putting workers on furlough over lack of demand.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/10/08/lg-plant-that-got-150m-to-make-volt-batteries-in-michigan-puts-workers-on/
ahh the obama business acumen…freaking asssstounding
We’ll need a link for that. Thanks in advance
CNBC, doofus. Jeez. That was the link we already put out.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/10/08/top-clinton-aide-swiftly-briefed-capitol-hill-on-coordinated-attack/
In a briefing to Capitol Hill staffers delivered the day after the deadly Sept. 11 attack in Benghazi, a top aide to Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said the killings appeared to be the result of a terrorist attack.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/10/08/top-clinton-aide-swiftly-briefed-capitol-hill-on-coordinated-attack/#ixzz28ksVyi4z
ahhhhhhhhh more safety measures from the obama thugs
Be careful eating the live roaches
Just read that Dan. Sorry the guy died. but sometimes there’s just no explaining why people do certain things.
http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/08/us/obama-chavez-monument/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
told you he was a socialist…no wonder he had mao ornaments on his Christmas tree, freaking buffoon
Big oil is sticking it to the state with 50+ electoral votes, hoping simpletons like yourself will blame the president. Try and keep up.
No, actually the leftwing environmental whacks are taking it on the chin for having not allowed a new refinery to be built in CA in decades. So the Dems are doing what they do best. Blaming others for predicaments they themselves caused. Predictably, Feinstein is calling for an investigation of oil companies.
“…out in California, all happily prancing around chanting, “horray for higher gasoline prices”
comment by Frank
They’re also busy breathing air that’s dramatically safer than the air they consumed forty years ago. Apparently Frank wouldn’t mind breathing anything that BP thinks is okay to emit; in fact, by his posts he seems like a case study in the effects of high lead and carbon monoxide levels.
“…for having not allowed a new refinery to be built in CA in decades”
No new refinery has been built anywhere in decades, Butch, but don’t let that stop a good line of BS.
BTW, still link-challenged?
Today at VMI, Rmoney revealed his foreign policy plans regarding Pakistan, North Korea, and Iran, as detailed below:
…And he swears he means it!!!
Well warren,
Where are all the prancing dancers in California, proclaiming in their giddiness over the high gasoline prices? You STILL haven’t offered a clue as to where those happy folks are. All we see are UNHAPPY folks, and governor Brown “busily signing something”…, and he’s not even smiling!
For goodness sakes Warren, why aren’t YOU and at least SOME of the other libs prancing around here, maybe in downtown Roanoke, in celebration of high gasoline prices? Eh?
Hey Ron,
where are the happily prancing dancers out in California? You know, the greenies? Why aren’t they celebrating out there in Caleefornia over their sky-rocketing gasoline prices? Heck, where’s obuma in all this? How come HE’S not hi-fiving on all the stages he foists himself up on every day? Where’s the celebration? Ya’all think we forget?
Heck, why don’t you, Warren, ol’dano, sandi, kristen, Ron, little stevie c, the Bobsey Twins, Art, VVAwhatever-the-heck his name is, etc., go downtown and sign loudly and proudly about the lib victory ya’ll are scoring over the high gasoline prices in California? Huh? After all, it’s gotta start somewhere before it arrives here…where are you all hiding your happiness?
Aren’t high gasoline prices EXACTLY what you libs want?
And now on a lighter vein, i give you my nomination for the next Olympic sport:
http://tinyurl.com/9yptnyt
hey ol’ DANO, We’re STILL waiting for you response to post #92. What’s the matter, can’t think of any answers?
Henry @98 – poor you…not seeming to have a grasp of what a chicken hawk is:
“A person who favors military force or action to carry out a foreign policy but has never served in the military.”
The definition does not fit the President who has ended one Bush war and is winding down the other – but let me provide you with a few republican chicken hawk examples – those who have never served, but currently like and support Romney’s misguided saber rattling.
Mitt Romney
Paul Ryan
Rudy Giuliani
Dick Cheney
Karl Rove
John Cornyn
Mitch McConnell
Jon Kyl
John Boehner
Rick Santorum
George Allen
Newt Gingrich
Yo Artie,, not so fast!
The big oli companies don’t have much to do with the lib greenie victory for sky-high gasoline prices in California….the culprits are broken refineries and STUPID lib regulations, which prevent gasoline which has been refined OUTSIDE of CALIFORNIA from entering the state and being used INSIDE the state.
Where are the happy lib greenies prancing around over THAT, eh, Artie?
I’m going to try for a new topic:
Why was it OK when Jim Gilmore was RNC chairman during his last year as governor, but it was wrong for Tim Kaine to serve as DNC chairman during HIS last year as governor?
107.Typical right wingers, if you have nothing else, lie. Romney didn’t teach you that, but I sure think you taught him. No wonder he thinks his lies are okay! You prove it daily.
Comment by Sandi Saunders — October 8, 2012 @ 7:40 pm
Here’s a little truth for you SS…just so you know how vile your Messiah
Obama is…
On June 5, 2007 Obama spoke at Hampton University right here in VA. He lamented the shameful administration and government which had waived the
Stafford Act for the 9/11 terrorist act in NY and the Hurricane Andrew disaster in Florida. (The Stafford Act requires that localities/states provide 10% of disaster funding.) He stated the administration had not done so for New Orleans because the people there were predominantly black and didn’t matter as much. (the grand old Race card.)
However, on May 24, 2007 the Senate approved waiver of the Stafford Act for the Katrina disaster by a vote of 80 to 14 (S6823). Obama was one of
14 Senators who voted against waiver of the Stafford Act. Just two before the Hampton speech!
Imagine that. How did such a dishonest and disgusting man like Obama ever
get elected? Why would anyone support him now?
Liberals are so quick to casually accuse the other side of lying (the press is doing it even now claiming Biden will win the debate while Ryan will lie) and yet no specifics are offered. Since it’s not in the liberal
mindset it must be a lie. Therefore, slimeballs like Obama get elected where they lie again with dire consequences; people die…Fast and Furious, Libya, Solyndra, Delphi, DHS, DOJ, GSA.
Will liberals ever realize that their political agenda is based on dependency, hypocrisy and lies all of which are bad things for America?
Geez, where’s mike o when you need the “name calling” police….not one sound from him even with these gems from the Rwers on this thread alone:
“from the obama thugs”
“leftwing environmental whacks”
” socialist… freaking buffoon”
“0bama hacks”
oh yeah, mike o, calling out hypocrites like you is soooo offensive… while this stuff is O-K…
Talk about kicking butt in a debate ,TIM kaine just took george allen apart tonight. allen didnt stick to the issues on a single question .
Or this sport:
http://tinyurl.com/9l6r7fw
Obama has stood strong against the enemies there…
Comment by Richard J Beason, CPA — October 8, 2012 @ 7:42 pm
Lypocrisy, Obama has bowed everywhere and to everyone but standing strong…not even on the golf course!
Richard, reading does not make you a expert on foreign affairs.
That is what is so insulting about your candidate Romney. At a time of unbelievable sorry at the State Department and for Amb. Stevens family, he clumsily plays politics.
Comment by Richard J Beason, CPA — October 8, 2012 @ 4:05 pm
Appears the State Department and the entire Obama administration was so
upset that they spun lies about the event for two weeks until the truth became so apparent that it could not be ignored. Certainly is a shame
that there was no concern, despite numerous warnings and requests documented by Steven’s diary, such that adequate security was not provided. Guess being an Ambassador to a foreign country is stressful when you have an administration and state departments that places their people in extremely risky situations with no backup or security.
Mitt’s administration will be strong. Unlike the weak Obama administration; which is so insulting because not only did they not do the right thing up front; when something happened; they lied and blamed to try and put the thing in the best politically correct position; the people involved were irrelevant or expendable.
Shrill, I have nothing against a poll that only includes what 500 people think in one day. I’m just surprised that you put so much faith into it.
From Common Dreams, Five Practical Reasons Not to Vote Republican.
“Why was it OK when Jim Gilmore was RNC chairman during his last year as governor, but it was wrong for Tim Kaine to serve as DNC chairman during HIS last year as governor?”
dobbs, it was OK for RWers because Gilmore was a Republican. And it was wrong for Kaine because he is a Democrat. The RWers always criticize Dems for things Republicans do, whether the Dems are doing them or not. That’s a big part of their game.
“The big oli companies don’t have much to do with…gasoline prices in California…”
Sure they don’t Frankie, whatever you say.
Hey you libs,
Whatcha think of the new PEW poll? That’s one poll you folks normally like, but not so much now, eh? It’s DEVESTATING to obuma, and his hopes for reelection! Heck, Romney’s pulled even with obuma for the womens vote…the obuma of “free rubbers for betty” fame!
I’m serious! This stuff….you just can’t make it up!
Better watch out Leon, I’m not sure Fox would take kindly to you reproducing copyrighted material verbatim on this blog.
I think Romney’s move today was calculated. With his forceful talk, he has taken what was already weakness of 0bama and made it ridiculous. Mitt will have 0bama running down so many rabbit holes trying to explain his way out of the Libyan lie/coverup, Fast & Furious, his support of the Muslim Brotherhood in Arab Spring, and his softness on Iran. The guy will be playing defense all four quarters.
Today the 0bama administration descended into the laughable: “Romney’s foreign policy is a failure” Huh? Uh, Mitt isn’t president….yet.
Gweorge Allen was pitiful in the televised Senate debate with Tim Kaine tonight. When asked about equal pay for women and vioolence against women acts, his response was to re3peal obamacare. When asked about solutions to the sequestration issue, his answer was to repeal obamacare. When asked about supoport for a bill to require capaign contributors to the shadow groups to be identified, he said he was for transparency in govt. and freedom of speech. When asked what solution he might offer tostop congressional gridlock and promote bipartisanship ands compromise his answer was “why did Tim Kaine accept the dNC chairmanship during his last year as governor?”When asked about personhood, ultasound and Roe v. Wade he said something about criminals who illegally force penetration of women but never gave an answer on any of the three issues. Then he said he was for women’s access to contraceptives as long as we repealed obamacare.His only answer for solving the deficit issue was to drill for oil and gas as fast as we can everywhere and repeal obamacare. His answer for making medicare and social security solvent was to repeal obamacare,
raise eligibility ages and look for more “private” pareticipation.His smirking smile and vapuid answers showed just how dull a man he reslly is.
Mitt Romney, the tithing Russian tobacco titan
Do you reckon the Mormon Church got 10 percent of Romney’s cigarettes-for-Russia profits?
dave’s right about the Allen-Kaine debate. Kaine wiped the floor with Allen. It wasn’t even close. And he did it on BOTH style and substance, unlike the Romney-Obama debate, in which Romney aggressively lied his way to a style-only win.
If the wingnuts can link Breitbart, I can link Kos.
Leon. What makes you a foreign affairs expert, Fox News? Perhaps if you read more you would have clue about State Department security a their Bridget that is controlled btGOP House. O f the cutbacks they have endured. You would also know that Romney and you are simply playing politics with a dangerous subject as to the causes of the tragedy. There is more inevolved internationally and diplomatically within Libya than labeling their gov as allowing terrorists operations. There gov depends on our careful support to help it survive and to keep terrorists out. What we officially say matters
#1023 Accent, doofus, not dialect. Please quit lying.
Dan, when you were in Journalism school, did you ever dream of pimping stories for the White House? “I’m going to be a journalist and do everything in my power to get the President re-elected. I’m going to be working for The Man”.
At least Sam Donaldson resigned rather than lower himself to it.
Obama got his clock cleaned by Romney. It’s OK to admit it to yourself. Your President is a low-IQ lying light-weight. Come into the light, Dan. It’s OK.
Sorry, Dan. Turns out 0bama is the only one in the debate who lied. The author of the study 0bama cites to claim Romney wants to raise taxes has now agreed 0bama lied.
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/princeton-economist-obama-campaign-misrepresenting-my-study-romneys-tax-plan_653917.html
@145 and came right out with the “I won’t kill Big Bird” in his opening statement first. Because nothing says the President got creamed then by drumming a nuance of that debate. I don’t think anyone wins with Kaine or Allen.
Romney clearly states his lack of foreign affair experience and tells us he will hand the fate of the Middle East to Israel. He is so committed to his friend Bibi that he ignores our Arab allies as well as the new democracies in the Middle East. He shows he has no respect for China or Russia and is willing to risk war with them over arming Syrian Rebels who we cannot yet determine ehich are friends and which are terrorists.
Romney does not even know of the international free trade treaties signed by Obama and the trade negotiated with India. He erroneously claims Obama has negotiated no free trade agreements.
But he is most scary when he signs on with Bibi on bombing Iran, His too close ties with Israel will make our dealings with Sudia Arabia, the Gulf Nations, Egypt, Iraq, and North Africa all but impossible. He complains about our leaving Iraq, but fails to recognize that the Bush imposed government there would not yield on their insistence that our troops be subject to Iraqi law and courts. Our Nation has never accepted such terms and will never let our troops be subject to a foreign Nation’s rule.
Romney does not even mention Pakistan when it is our greatest threat. he prefers to conjure cold war sentiments with Russia and China when both are our trading partners and both are needed to control the Mideast. We need them on our side, not as sworn enemies. Obama recognizes their economic and strategic place in the World and knows the need to hold them in check but to also use their position to help settle the rising troubles of the Mideast.
Mitt is simply not ready for prime time and certainly we are not ready for Israel to lead our foreign affair agenda.
#112 “I think Romney’s move today was calculated.”
Duh, do you really think so, toots? I’m sure that most of us thought he just did it spur of the moment with no thought whatsoever until you revealed this deep secret strategery.
Henry, I never went to j-school.
UTR, I’m leaning toward Hank the Cat, for Senate.
http://hankforsenate.com/
#112 BTW, suzie, if you were to actually take an unbiased look at Romney’s “foreign policy” speech yesterday — something I know you won’t do — you’ see that much of what he “proposed” is either EXACTLY what Obama is doing now, what every president has promised for decades and has been unable to accomplish, or is something that flip-flopper Mitt or Republicans criticized Obama for attempting earlier. What a pile of steaming BS.
#146 Thanks, Art. It was obvious what Romney was doing, but didn’t know the tactic had name. Knowing that it came from a creationist makes it even slimier.
#155 I’m sorry OJ, but we simply can’t have a carpetbagging Maine coon cat representing Virginia.
http://www.petside.com/article/attack-ad-against-hank-cat-senate
@155- Hilarious. Hank would at least listen and he’s a cat!
#155 And, OJ, I’m sort of leaning toward Bill the Cat, representing the National Radical Meadow Party. Ack.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_the_Cat
What about Felix the Cat?
#161 Many good cat candidates out there.
If this country elects a cat before a dog, I’m moving to Europe.
#163 Kristen, my link at #158 has an attack ad supposedly from a dog.
Dogs are followers, Kristen. Cats are leaders.
We need our electorate to at least be able to bathe themselves.
Crotch-licking doesn’t count.
JMW…your last line sounds a little jealous.
BTW, suzie, if you were to actually take an unbiased look at Romney’s “foreign policy” speech yesterday — something I know you won’t do — you’ see that much of what he “proposed” is either EXACTLY what Obama is doing now..
Huh? 0bama is treating Israel like a valued ally? 0bama is standing up to Iran? 0bama didn’t support the Muslim Brotherhood?
What are you drinking, Granddad? Old Granddad?
McCain should have butchered 0bama in foreign affairs. Instead, he played Mr. Nice to 0bama, and saved all his vitriol for fellow Republicans. He got as close as he did because of Sarah.
gdad, that was a funny attack ad…from what I can ascertain, Hank is from Fairfax County, so any attempts to smear his Maine Coon heritage could be breedism…
In all seriousness, seeing this a couple days ago was a welcome change from the election campaigns.
And yes, cats are independent leaders…not followers. They’re not generally as susceptible to artificial conditioning as dogs. Ever hear of Pavlov’s Cat? There’s a reason for that…
Leon. What makes you a foreign affairs expert, Fox News? Perhaps if you read more you would have clue about State Department security a their Bridget that is controlled btGOP House. O f the cutbacks they have endured. You would also know that Romney and you are simply playing politics with a dangerous subject as to the causes of the tragedy. There is more inevolved internationally and diplomatically within Libya than labeling their gov as allowing terrorists operations. There gov depends on our careful support to help it survive and to keep terrorists out. What we officially say matters
Comment by Richard J Beason CPA — October 9, 2012 @ 6:37 am
Thank you for acknowledging the truth of my post…your typos and error
speak volumes about you irration in reaing the truth. I claim no expertise in foreign affairs, I suspect I read more than you and of a much diverse variety. I do know “speak softly but carry a big stick” is
an effective method of dealing with bullies and that is exactly what radical Islam is attempting to do to the USA. Romney’s position of “peace through strength” is a sound basis for Foreign policy and much
better than the “appease and kowtow approach” presently in use. The Obama
administration has not passed a budget since it took office so look elsewhere for an excuse as to why the Libya security was relaxed. That, or acknowledge the truth. They left our ambassador at risk despite knowing of the threats and having the means to protect him. Steven’s was
sacrificed.
Hey J.M., your post to Kristen is great? LOL!
However, I’m not so sure about your statement that “cats are leaders”. There are plenty of examples of alpha male dog leaders in the wild, same as big cats. In fact, there is evidence of alpha male leaders among packs of wild dogs. However, I’ve seen no evidence of alpha male, or female, leaders among colonies of feral cats.
Of course, there’s the CatDog option:
http://nickelodeon.wikia.com/wiki/CatDog
J.M. White
“Crotch-licking doesn’t count.”
Say what you want, if people could do that, most of us would never leave the house.
Does this mesan that if we elect a cat, we’ll change the name of the Senate to The Cathouse? That might make sense.
Uptheriver@9:59
Like most Republicans, I’ve never known of a cat who would listen to anybody! Cats are always right and nobody else is. Cats have their own set of facts and their own truth, no matter what anybody says. As a matter of fact, I think the GOP should change its symbol from the elephant to the cat.
You’d think sockpuppets would at least try to alter their writing styles.
“However, I’ve seen no evidence of alpha male, or female, leaders among colonies of feral cats.
You’re too busy watching Fox News.
Well said, Leon. The truth hurts, even for libs.
shrill,
Yes, you did miss my point regarding “gratuitous name calling”. I often use the term “myopic” or “extreme” in defining many on the far left “and” right. I do not consider that gratuitous, but rather a defining term. I actually think suzie fits the definition on the right and you, gdad, Richard (and more recently Dan) fits the definition on the left.
An example of “gratuitous” is your post above that ends with calling Romney a hypocrite and coward. It might be different if you used these terms in a defining manner like: “Romney is a coward because he refuses to lead “from the front” as opposed to “from the rear”.
I am sure there are occasions that I will toss one out myself; my point was that you do so on almost every post.
I find it humorous that you use the “everybody else does it” justification; it is typical.
I hope that clears thing up for you.
Richard,
Apparently your only experience with Romney is reading the huffpost or liberal talking points. Most informed people, are pretty clear on his views and the less informed found out much from the debate. I gained very little “new” knowledge of Romney from the debate.
However, I was surprised (as it seems many others were) at the ineptness shown by obama. I always thought him unqualified for the job but I thought he might, at least, have been able to cover his shortcomings.
“shrill,
Yes, you did miss my point regarding “gratuitous name calling”. I often use the term “myopic” or “extreme” in defining many on the far left “and” right. I do not consider that gratuitous, but rather a defining term. I actually think suzie fits the definition on the right and you, gdad, Richard (and more recently Dan) fits the definition on the left.
An example of “gratuitous” is your post above that ends with calling Romney a hypocrite and coward. It might be different if you used these terms in a defining manner like: “Romney is a coward because he refuses to lead “from the front” as opposed to “from the rear”.
I am sure there are occasions that I will toss one out myself; my point was that you do so on almost every post.
I find it humorous that you use the “everybody else does it” justification; it is typical.
I hope that clears thing up for you.”
–Comment by mikeO
Shrilliary, on the other hand, calling Obama an “ego maniac” as mikeO did yesterday ALSO is not gratuitous. You see, when mikeO does it, he FEELS it’s legit. But when others do it, it becomes on the subject of criticism he levels.
Are we clear now?
hohoho
“your typos and error
speak volumes about you irration in reaing the truth”
Ah, Leon. The gift that keeps on giving. Now, explain to me how “radical Islam” is “speaking softly”.
Mike O. O have listened to Romney since 20073. He has changed a lot. In fact he has changed, changed back, and changed again. Which Romney are you voting for? By the way, I do mot parrot thru news as you, I read, think, send Saul what I think.
sorry mike o – Romney is a HYPOCRITE and a COWARD, nothing gratuitous about it. I would say this to his face if he ever let “real” people talk to him…
Now if I called you a hypocrite and coward, it would be a 50% gratuitous comment…I don’t know if you are a coward. I hope this clears it up for you…
“However, I’ve seen no evidence of alpha male, or female, leaders among colonies of feral cats.”
I have two cats and one is clearly the alpha. He does most of the hunting and often calls for his brother when he’s made a kill so he can share the spoils.
Colonies of feral cats also have a clear pecking order and it’s constantly tested, just like in dogs. Is it possible that you’re struggling with the fact that packs of feral cats are very socialist and even communistic? Of course, there are exceptions and I have no intention to turn my playful comment into a comprehensive analysis of cat sociology.
Or it could just be that I’m jealous of crotch-licking abilities, like Kristen said. Whatever you want to go with. If I could do that, I’d still be living at my mom’s and I’d certainly have no time to patter endlessly on Dan’s blog.
“your typos and error
speak volumes about you irration in reaing the truth”
Ah, Leon. The gift that keeps on giving.
Comment by Kristen — October 9, 2012 @ 6:17 pm
Now, Kristen, you know that if you don’t rea the truth, irration reigns [and communism wins]. It’s a lot like roating you tirs on the car. I’m sure he accepts you apolgy in avance.
178.Well said, Leon. The truth hurts, even for libs.
Comment by Frank — October 9, 2012 @ 4:29 pm
Thank you much, Frank. Got Kristen to bite : ). Beason is still trying to figure it out and J.M. White @186…ding, ding, ding, winner, winner,
chicken dinner!
Leon: dude, I’m starving waiting on my casserole. Don’t tease me with chicken dinners.
hey dave,
…if cats are like repubs, and dogs are like dems, i wonder if more dems let cats live with them, and more repubs own dogs…why is that?
Hey J.M., I always liked Fritz.
Leon. Sorry about the typos
, not irritated at all, just answering by phone. As for your budget comment that is just rw craps as usual. Everyone knows the House is the Reardon there is no budget. But the House has set spending limits that has indeed cut off funds for security. You should indeed read more
Phones are hell on comments. Just ask Michael Howdyshell!
We likewise have a clear Alpha male cat in our brood. He rules the place and keeps the other cats in line. He’s the best hunter, and has kept neighbor’s dogs at bay, and deer. But they seem to enjoy the company of the possum that comes on the back deck nightly, I think they see it as a funny-looking cat. A few years ago I opened the side door of a rental house we were living in at the time, to find 2 of our cats and a possum sitting together on the doormat, waiting for me to feed them.