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Friday, May 24, 2013
THE ROANOKE TIMES
“3 Virginia lawmakers seek federal voter fraud probe”
Because Repubs are SOOOO genuinely concerned about rooting out voter fraud, I’m sure they’ll agree to this immediately. No big deal, just check to see if there’s a problem that needs fixing.
What’s that you say? They’ve already passed on it? Imagine that.
Surfed over to MSNBC last night. It was hysterical. They trumpeted that Nate Silver has Obama with a 70% chance to win vs. 29% for Romney. This takes propaganda to a whole new level when Gallop and Rasmussen had Romney up 5 and 4 on the same day.
Dan, who is delusional around here?
Liberal comedians have been on vacation since Barack took office. I have yet to see a serious lampooning, roasting or pointed joke sent The Anointed One’s way. Still plenty of Bush, Cheney and Palin jokes on all the major networks which is rather pathetic and lame since they’ve been out of power since gas was $1.87 per gallon and unemployment under 6%.
The Bush tax cuts for those with children, for the wealthy, and for the working poor did little to help the economy. Part of the reason was they cut nothing for the middle class person who had no children as dependents.
Obama’s tax cuts for small business especially the special depreciation allowances,and payroll tax cuts did more tho spur the economy because they were geared to help the working middle class.
Mitt Romney’s proposals plainly help the the wealthy, but raise taxes for the working middle class. Another GOP fiasco. Mitt’s tax cuts will hurt 97% of small businesses because they will leave payroll taxes high, will eliminate special deductions for small capital intensive businesses,and they will remove tax deductions for the businessmen who have borrowed against their homes to finance their businesses. Mitt’s tax plan will help the 3% of small businesses like Bain Capital who will continue to get the special tax treatment for carrying interest and special rates for capital gains and dividends. These are the non-capital intensive investment bankers, private equity, and hedge funds that have bought Mitt a candidacy and continue to pay for his advertisements.
The GOP tax plan simply will hurt the working middle class businessman and the middle class employee while lowering taxes for the wealthy.
Mitt’s tax and social plan will eliminate the earned income credit and most social services for the poor. For a working Mom with two children making $25,000 a year, Mitt will increase her taxes by $5,000, eliminate food stamps, and cut insurance for the children.
While I know you GOP types want to stop supporting these Moms and their children, but I surely would like to know what you expect the working poor to do to survive? Many already work two jobs while their parents watch their children so more work will not be possible. Perhaps more abortions will be in order, drug and sex trade, or just out and out theft. Certainly the children will be left out on the street more.
Is this really the future of the USA? To turn our Country into a third world of poverty and starvation so we can build a few more Navy ships and missiles and cut taxes for the wealthy investment bankers?
Among 21 comntries polled, including places like Germany (which is highly praised by troll suzie), Japan, Poland, South Korea, Brazil and so on, just one — Pakistan — would elect Romney.
Next time anybody is tempted to cite how many Americans say they go to church regularly, new research shows that about half the folks who say they go to church weekly are lying. About 24 percent of Americans actually go every week or nearly every week.
Terps,
Those national polls measure the national vote, which to a certain extent is meaningless on election day. The proof of that is the 2000 election. Remember that one? Al Gore got half a million more votes than George Bush. But (thanks to the Supreme Court) Bush got more electoral votes. Because in actuality, this is 50 different elections, one per state.
Nate Silver is saying that Obama’s thin lead in a handful of states makes it way more likely he’ll cross the 270-electoral vote line than Romney will. That’s still true.
#3 And by comntries, I meant countries.
terps..
I would totally bet you that Nate Silver has a more accurate handicapping of the election than anyone. Hands down. Nate knows data. Nate knows statistics and gets it. Has nothing to do with politics and everything to do with known measureables.
The US has been influenced by the cut tax economists and politicians for too long. Whether it is Simpson Bowles or Mitt Romney or the GOP cutting the tax rates and or eliminating deductions will have a negative effect on the economy.
We have seen little improvement in economic growth from the Bush tax cits or for that matter the continuation of these cuts under Obama. There is no question that the payroll tax cuts and the special depreciation allowances for small businesses put more money in the middle class pockets, but while stopping the downturn it has not shown improved unemployment significantly. Unemployment cannot change significantly until demand for products increases and that will not change until the customers have money to spend. The solution remains to use infrastructure improvements by the Government to put people to work so they can have money to buy small businesses products. Cutting tax rates on businesses that are not making profits or individuals unemployed serves no purpose; it raises no government revenue nor does it put money back into the consumers’ pockets (a 20% rate on zero income is the same as a 10% rate of tax on zero income).
The other answer is to give incentives for those with income and assets to invest in businesses. Simpson Bowles and Mitt Romney’s plans take incentives out of the tax system. john Kennedy realized in the early 60s that higher tax rates with targeted tax deductions (the investment tax credit for example) encourages those with assets to invest in risks that will reduce their taxes. When rates are too low, the cost of not investing is not high enough to overcome the risk of investing. Raise the cost of not investing and target the savings with goal oriented deductions overcomes puts incentive into the system. Rather than trillions sitting in off shore accounts or in foreign investments the money would be put to work in out economy.
Simpson Bowles and Mitt Romney and GOP plans are wrong to attempt to flatten tax rates and reduce deductions. We need just the opposite, more progressive rates and deductions that provide incentives to protect investors from those progressive rates. The carrot and stick method has worked well in the past whereas the GOP and Bush and potentially Mitt approach has shown little for their efforts.
Mike
“has nothing to do with politics” Please tell me you are kidding. everything has something to do with politics.
I’m surprised that the emails regarding details on the Benghazi attack have not been mentioned today…below is a link that should help everyone get a clearer picture of what has happened thus far and will be updated as new/updated events unfold:
http://wecheck.org/wiki/Benghazi_Attack_Timeline
I disagree with Paddy about Palin. As long as that family keeps showing up on Faux News and various ‘reality’ shows, they’ll be the joke that keeps on giving.
Hey dano,
When are you gonna post something on the emails CBS turned up on what the white house AND the State Department KNEW about the terrorist attack in Benghazi. I bet this whole episode will be a “two-fer”.
I believe both obuma and h. clinton lose their political careers over this fiasco.
Hey, I know! hey dano, why don’t you write sumpthin’ on who in the obuma campaign came up with the WHOPPER about the movie-maker having caused the false…..riot?
“Among 21 comntries polled, including places like Germany (which is highly praised by troll suzie), Japan, Poland, South Korea, Brazil and so on, just one — Pakistan — would elect Romney.”
That is true, gdad. With Romney promising to move away from sending jobs overseas to creating more jobs here in the US, I can see why many countries would rather see the current job-exporter-in-chief stay around another 4 years!
Thanks, gdad!!
Ah Yes, Mitt Romney would do nothing to hurt U.S. auto makers. His pants are still smoking from that statement.
http://www.nationalmemo.com/no-denial-son-of-detroi-profited-from-auto-bailout-and-jobs-shipped-to-china/
I’m hoping that if Romney is elected, he’ll get rid of all those pesky agencies, and then our country can be overrun by more pests like this one that are brought in by entrepreneurs looking for a quick buck. That would be great.
http://hamptonroads.com/2012/10/va-and-nc-only-good-nutria-dead-nutria
MC, because no one genuinely gives a poop about “Benghazi”. In fact, 99% of those flogging the dead there couldnt’ have defined the word “Benghazi” a month ago. Or found it on a map. Or even known it’s on a map.
As Exhibit A, I give you Frank.
hey Ron May,
What’s your take on why Politico published something today which says that Bob Woodward is contradicting Obama’s recent utterances (like, in the debate….) that “the sequestration plan did NOT originate from the white House”?
hey dano and danr…., since you guys are newspaper folks, “journalists”, etc., kinda like Bob Woodward…, what are YOUR takes on why Bob Woodward is contradicting the potus concerning the sequestration idea …thingy?
Just checked the polls and Romney has a small lead in all the National Polls
Rasmussen = R – 50% O – 46%
Gallup = R – 51% O – 46%
Wash Post = R – 49% O – 48%
As for Ohio, Obama has a very small 1% lead.
Virginia, Florida, and North Carolina all show Romney with a 3% or more lead.
It’s a nail biter.
terps@12
MSNBC has everything to do with politics…but Nate Silver is just a guy making predictions with good data. If he’s wrong, I’ll change my opinion of him.
Here’s a flash from Gomer (er Frank)
Hey you libs! Six weaks ago I kudnt even spel Bingazi!
It’s definitely tightening. Nate Silver for the first time has put Colorado in Romney’s column, but just barely.
Recently Silver had Virginia for Romney, but now he’s got that back for Obama just barely. Obama’s also a slight favorite to take New Hampshire.
According to Silver, if Romney can win Romney-favored Florida and Colorado, plus Obama-favored Iowa, Virginia and New Hampshire, Romney doesn’t need Ohio to take the election.
Terps,
Silver’s reputation rests on his ability to accurate predict the results in presidential elections. You’re claiming he’s deliberately distorting that for the purpose of “helping” Obama.
If that gives Obama or Obama voters a false sense of security, how does that “help” Obama?
And if the distortion hurts Silver’s reputation, how does that “help” him, moving forward?
MMM, the job exporting began many many years before Obama was around. It was when Corporation-Friendly Republicans made it easier to get cheap labor around the world than pay Americans to do the same job.
Sorry, try again.
hey kristen,
at least you are proud to publicly write that you are happy to stand with castro, chavez, and putin in support of obama’s re-election. and, you now are proud to say, “no one cares” about Benghazi.
none of the other libs on this blog have enough courage to join you out there on that branch. you are, at the moment, one of a kind.
hey dave,
Why don’t you join kristen, who’s out there on that branch…, all alone. Have you got the guts to join her?
So you are saying, scott, that Carter, Clinton, etc did not export any jobs? Oh, you are saying it is the Republicans fault that they didn’t have the backbone to stop it??
Thanks for playing.
#16 Damn, MMM, I didn’t realize that Romney was going to have the government FORCE companies to manufacture in the U.S. Or was it that he going to force workers to accept Chinese-like wages? Anyway, good to hear he’s mended his ways from when HIs companies were sending jobs overseas.
Only 7 states to the West of Pennsylvania that are at least ‘Lean-obama’ according to RCP. Can you say ‘Democratic free-fall’??
InTrade has a fairy wide margin. I have no idea how reliable these numbers are but the concept is interesting!
http://www.intrade.com/v4/home/
Ha! Ol’ Cue Ball taking any poster to task for spelling is the height of hypocrisy.
And Kristen doesn’t think anyone should be upset about dead Americans or the lies and cover-up by the Obama administration afterwards. According to her, most people wouldn’t be able to immediately point out the location of Benghazi on a map, so their outrage over dead Americans is fake. I bet the majority of Americans would have trouble pointing to Iraq and Afghanistan on a blank map, too. So, according to Kristen, most of the U.S. doesn’t care about the dead Americans who served in those countries either.
Here’s a new piece from James O’Keefe.
The video shows Democrat Jim Moran’s son explaining how to forge documents and vote using another person’s name.
http://blogs.cbn.com/thebrodyfile/archive/2012/10/24/new-undercover-video-did-congressmans-son-commit-voter-fraud.aspx
Ouch. That doesn’t look good.
Even TALKING about it is damning.
Frank puts his pants on one leg at a time.
Just like Castro, Chavez and Putin.
Frank, unlike RWers like you and Dodo, I’m more than happy to speak for myself. I got over needing crowd approval back in 7th grade.
The election will be close, I do not hope for a repeat of 2000 close though. The truth that right wingers are crazy, is not even close. That is beyond doubt.
Close election, a billion dollars and as many lies,
Same divisive Congress, a free and true given.
That they think Romney is “one of them”, priceless!
Don’t you just love it when MMM makes no sense at all?
#35 Glad you’re concerned about voter fraud, LC. You’re out there demanding that investigation in Virginia, aren’t you?
Frank, let’s put this on the table. I will gladly stand with “castro, chavez, and putin”, and hug the devil in the bargain, as long as you and I are on opposite sides. I hope the Plutocracy you support chews you up and spits you out in a ghetto far, far away. You are not a patriot.
And I am not hiding in the safety of anonymity and insulting you either!
Keep your antenna for more of of the real villains (the businesses / businessmen) being brought to justice for trashing the economy.
http://tinyurl.com/9y88svg
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NY Attorney General Says More Suits Will Follow JPMorgan
By David McLaughlin and Chris Dolmetsch – Oct 2, 2012 1:25 PM ET
SNIP
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has now been followed by
http://tinyurl.com/9pcyvgn
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Bank of America Sued by U.S. Over Mortgage Loan Sales
By David Glovin and Hugh Son on October 24, 2012
Bank of America Corp. (BAC), the second- biggest U.S. lender by assets, sold defective residential mortgage loans to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac (FMCC) that later defaulted, the U.S. government said in a $1 billion fraud lawsuit against the bank.
The U.S. Justice Department filed the complaint today in Manhattan federal court, claiming the bank and its Countrywide Financial unit generated thousands of defective mortgage loans and sold them to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.
SNIP
“The fraudulent conduct alleged in today’s complaint was spectacularly brazen,” Bharara said. “Through a program aptly named ‘the Hustle,’ Countrywide and Bank of America made disastrously bad loans and stuck taxpayers with the bill.”
SNIP
The lawsuit is the sixth brought against a major U.S. bank by the Justice Department in less than 18 months over what Bharara called “reckless mortgage practices in the lead-up to the financial crisis.”
SNIP
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#34 Look, it’s matt. Have you gotten over the beating you took for suggesting that Sandi be euthanized? Even some right wingers thought that was pretty warped.
matt, you barely have enough material to speak for yourself. Please dont’ attempt to stretch yourself speaking for me…it’s way above your paygrade.
Look, it’s gdud still firing blanks and nipping at ankles (unsuccessfully, as usual). Keep em’ coming, old man.
I like how gdad has started capitalizing ‘His’ when referring to Romney.
It shows that gdad practically reveres and worships Romney as a saint.
Hey, Dan.
Will the new software for the RT blogs have a reader Polling Feature like many bulletin board forums (such as vBulletin Solutions) have?
I would love to see a vote of Gonzos on the political polls:
Pick one:
1) I have replied to a few polls honestly.
2) I have replied to a large number of polls honestly.
3) I have replied to a few polls dishonestly / intentionally misleadingly.
4) I have replied to a large number of polls dishonestly / intentionally misleadingly.
5) My degree of honest with opinion polls depends on which polling organization they are.
6) I hang-up w/o ever replying.
7) I have not been contacted.
FWIIW, I have developed an increasing distrusts of polls because of the fact that I hang-up w/o ever replying, that many folk tell me the same, that some folk say that they have not been contacted and that others say that they lie.
For that matter, I don’t even listen long enough to tell is the call is from a reputable polling firm.
DaveHicks…you’re missing “Don’t even answer the phone”.
Kristen, as usual, a simple response of “I got nothin” will do. And I don’t blame you for not trying to defend your BS.
Well, the Koch brothers through their front “Americans for Prosperity” have put something in my mailbox every day this week. What’s a few hundred million to buy an election?
Art,
Write “refused, please return” on it. Then they’ll have to pay for getting it back.
#51 Dan, I told a friend last night who’s a mail carrier that I did that to an envelope from the Tea Party that obviously had a CD in it, and he said it doesn’t actually go back and the source doesn’t have to pay postage. It just gets trashed back at the post office.
#45 Got your attention didn’t it, mattie? Made you respond, even if it WAS just a repeat of what you’ve said 57 times before.
What happened to Trump’s big October Surprise?
Hey Kristen, you might not care, but that’s probably just you. Check out cbsnews.com to look at their “Most Popular” list. See what is at the top.
It definitely influences the independent vote whether you like it or not.
Spare me, MC…4 Americans were killed at a mall in Wisconsin last week. The Fright Wing has so far successfully managed to control their outpouring of grief over it.
Many of those mailings have return envelopes in which you can send a contribution to their cause. Ones that do I get the envelope out put a blank 3 X 5 note card in it and put it in the mail. Such envelopes typically have a bulk mail stamp or permit on them. The Post Office is required to deliver it to the addressee and charge them the appropriate postage rate. I do the same thing with unsolicited credit card applications and other junk mail items.
hey Kristen,
Your supposed comrades are leaving you way out on that branch all by your lonesome. To your credit, you do walk the walk, and talk the talk. All the other libs on this blog haven’t half the courage you do.
hey dano, are you SERIOUS? Is that “pants” thingy all you’ve got?
Bob Woodward outs obuma as a bald-faced liar, and you got nothin’?
hey sandi,
i suspect your bark is worse than your bite.
Still firing away with that intellectual BB gun, eh gdud? What, no pom-poms and blog defending today?
“DEATH TO MY HOMETOWN”
Bruce Springsteen
♫ Well, no cannonballs did fly, no rifles cut us down ♫
No bombs fell from the sky, no blood soaked the ground
No powder flash blinded the eye, no deathly thunder sounded
But just as sure as the hand of God, they brought death to my hometown
They brought death to my hometown, boys
No shells ripped the evening sky, no cities burning down
No army stormed the shores for which we’d die, no dictators were crowned
I awoke from a quiet night, I never heard a sound
The marauders raided in the dark and brought death to my hometown, boys
Death to my hometown
They destroyed our families, factories, and they took our homes
They left our bodies on the plains, the vultures picked our bones
So listen up, my sonny boy, be ready for when they come
For they’ll be returning sure as the rising sun
Now get yourself a song to sing and sing it ’til you’re done
Yeah, sing it hard and sing it well
Send the robber barons straight to hell
The greedy thieves who came around
And ate the flesh of everything they found
Whose crimes have gone unpunished now
Who walk the streets as free men now
Ah, they brought death to our hometown”
HELL YEAH!!
Bank Of America Mortgage Fraud: Feds Sue For Over $1 Billion Alleging Multi-Year Scheme
#61 Just helping folks remember how horribly vulgar you’ve been, mattie. Even some right wingers were appalled.
My latest polling call as I came in the door: …can we count on your vote for family values? “Sure, I’m voting for Obama! Thanks for calling.”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/23/the-donald-fired-from-trump-tower-no-longer-manger-new-york-high-rise_n_2006368.html?icid=maing-grid10%7Chtmlws-main-bb%7Cdl2%7Csec1_lnk3%26pLid%3D224863
October surprise!
This lib doesn’t find you nearly as important as you find yourself, Frank. I have no intentions of answering your asinine comments.
After three Va. Congressmen rerquested that the justice dept. investigate the Repiblican voter fraud in Va., the state elections board and Kenny the Cooch finally felt the heat and stoppped sitting on their hands. This is most likely an effortmto control the process of the investigaton,
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/palin-accuses-obama-shuck-jive-schtick-212555554–politics.html
The level of entrapment is pretty damning too, Lake Claytor. For sure it proves how down and dirty both sides are willing to go.
No Frank, it isn’t.
In case any of you missed this news
Tunisia: Reported Consulate Suspect Arrested
Associated Press
TUNIS, Tunisia October 24, 2012 (AP)
“Tunisian man who was arrested in Turkey this month with reported links to the attack on a U.S. consulate in Libya is facing terrorism charges, his lawyer said Wednesday, as an Egyptian official said a militant suspected of involvement was killed in clashes in Cairo.
Ali Harzi was repatriated to Tunisia on Oct. 11 by authorities in Turkey, and a judge issued his arrest warrant…
[...]
A person who saw Harzi’s court dossier told The Associated Press that the file links him to the Sept. 11 attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi that left Ambassador Christopher Stevens and three other Americans dead.”
http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/tunisia-reported-consulate-suspect-arrested-17554708#.UIh2YGffgQ5
Richard the CPA’s diatribes against romeny run counter to most intelligent, unbiased and independent accountant’s views.
Maybe retirement for Richard is best for any of his clients.
Sandi, re: 2:33 “I will gladly stand with “castro, chavez, and putin”, and hug the devil in the bargain”
WOW… enough said… thank you for your honesty and for verification of what most of us already knew…
Ah… An interesting reminder of how quickly we forget:
http://bit.ly/TzunwC
“It definitely influences the independent vote whether you like it or not.’
So does being unable to find Iran on a map.
“After three Va. Congressmen rerquested that the justice dept. investigate the Repiblican voter fraud in Va., the state elections board and Kenny the Cooch finally felt the heat and stoppped sitting on their hands. This is most likely an effortmto control the process of the investigaton.”
Column upcoming for Thursday!
The headline to the article J.M.White cites is “Paul Ryan Plotted To Sabotage US Economy with Newt Gingrich.”
Voter fraud should be investigated no matter where it leads.
Ohh, gdud. “Mattie is just a big meanie-face.”
Lol.
So WHERE is the thread about the most despicable thing a president has ever done—0bama WATCHED people die in Benghazi on a live feed without summoning help for them
You remember how indignant the SOB was at the debate about how dare Romney accuse him of allowing harm ro come to Americans and the BASTARD allowed them to die. for POLITICAL reasons.
This should be the LEAD story on all the networks, but the pathetic leftwing media is covering it up and protecting the SOB.
Can anyone IMAGINE the media outcry if Bush had allowed people to die without getting them help that was less than an hour away? There would be an absolute furor over it.
This cover up is despicable. A thousand times more serious than Watergate ever was. It sounds like Reuters and FOX are the only ones who have addressed this story in any depth at all.
mike O,
I hear you on voter fraud. Cuccinelli feels the same way about that, too, by the way. What he felt quite differently about was its cousin, voter-registration fraud. Neither he nor the GOP-dominated state Board of Elections thought that was worth investigating, until 3 Democrats in Congress embarrassed them into agreeing with a prove.
Perhaps it has something to do with that picture that’s floating around the internet, showing Ken in the same classroom with Colin Small, the alleged voter-registration fraudster. (It is unclear what Ken was teaching in that classroom).
First Bobby Thompson. Now Colin Small. What is it with the Cooch and alleged fraudsters?
And how do YOU feel about voter-registration fraud, mike O?
Damn. Did Mitt Romney lie for his friend, the owner of Staples, in order that his pal could screw his wife in their divorce settlement?
Can anyone IMAGINE the media outcry if Bush had allowed people to die without getting them help that was less than an hour away?
(Ahem) Katrina?
(continuing from above)
Would you care to compare body counts?
hey sandi,
whatcha think about the brewing firestorm about voter fraud concerning Brian Moran?
Aaaaannnd…… on another note…
Giants go to the plate, bottom of the 2nd, up 1-0.
hey dano,
When are we gonna be treated by you to a BIG column regarding what oBUMa REALLY meant to say when he blamed the deaths of four Americans in Benghazi on “a mob friven to a frenzy by an alleged film made by an unstable American film-maker”…when he full well KNEW that his story wasn’t even a little bit true.?
Eh?
hey joie, where ya at?
From The Nation; Mitt Romney’s Bailout Bonanza
Farking hypocrite.
Suzie,
You are a reprehensible, lying, disgusting imitation of a human being. Do you really believe that there was any political advantage to be had if your scenario bore any semblance to reality? Oh, yeah. Here I am, president of the US. What’s on TV? Oh, an attack on Benghazi. Now, I could send help. They’re only an hour away, after all. But I’d rather not, LET AMERICANS DIE, then lie about it. Because that would work out well for me, I’m sure.
You may be that stupid and immoral. I assure you that President Obama is not.
I thought I could not be any more disgusted by you than I have been, but you’ve managed to raise the bar.
So, here’s my challenge to you, you miserable vomitous mass: Explain the political calculation that goes into your deranged fantasy in a way that makes sense to ANYONE. Why, if help was so close and easy to send, and if Obama was watching the live feed as it happened, would he not send the help. What twisted political calculation could possibly make that the right decision for ANY president. As low as my opinion of George W. Bush is, I would never accuse him of that.
So, explain yourself, you warthog-faced buffoon.
(And, yes, I’m calling names. Dan C. allows it, and the circumstances call for it. If you come up with a rational explanation, I will apologize. Bonus points to anyone who knows where the insults come from.)
The Princess Bride
…and, wow.
Let me post a math problem to the bloggers here:
Let’s say I make $1,000,000 of dividend income now and I pay 15% in income tax (like Mitt Romney but a lot less income). I get to keep $850,500. How would that change if I was being taxed at a 50% tax rate. I’m not advocating a 50% tax rate but it makes the math easier. Bear with me.
At a 50% tax bracket, I only net $500,000 unless I am incented to invest in something that allows me to deduct enough to make up the the $350,000 difference in income and break even.
Would I try to find an investment that made up the difference….sure I would. That investment would most likely be a small business or a share in a small business that just so happnes to create several new jobs.
The math problem:
1. How big of a deduction would I need to keep my income the same at a 50% tax bracket?
2. What If the bank would loan me enough money to provide the interest deduction needed for #1. Assume a 10% interest rate and the interst is fully tax deductible, how much money would I borrow?
3. What probability of success would I need for this to make sense versus just paying the 50% tax rate?
IMHO, the low, current tax rate for folks like Mitt Romney, discourages the creation of middle class jobs and IMHO, it lowers the chance for more wealth creation for folks like Mitt Romeny. In other words, it’s easier for him to sit on his a$$, do nothing, create 0 jobs, and actually have the b@11s to say his tax rate needs to go lower.
Oh, the first to correctly answer my math problems gets lunch on me (and I’ll invite Dan too as this is his blog).
Super duper bonus questions:
Using the multiplier effect of money, how much new money is created, how many new jobs are created, how much additionall tax revenue is created.
Rick, I’m betting in you Buddy!
Dan R,
You just gave Jethrene a trollgasm. The guy’s a sociopath, he’d say anything for effect.
Looks like SuzieQ went to WalMart again.
https://www.facebook.com/Mayfam1/activity/10151483103788986?ref=notif¬if_t=open_graph_action_comment#!/Z104Fans
You are a reprehensible, lying, disgusting imitation of a human being. Do you really believe that there was any political advantage to be had if your scenario bore any semblance to reality? Oh, yeah. Here I am, president of the US. What’s on TV? Oh, an attack on Benghazi. Now, I could send help. They’re only an hour away, after all. But I’d rather not, LET AMERICANS DIE, then lie about it. Because that would work out well for me, I’m sure.
You may be that stupid and immoral. I assure you that President Obama is not.
I thought I could not be any more disgusted by you than I have been, but you’ve managed to raise the bar.
So, here’s my challenge to you, you miserable vomitous mass: Explain the political calculation that goes into your deranged fantasy in a way that makes sense to ANYONE. Why, if help was so close and easy to send, and if Obama was watching the live feed as it happened, would he not send the help. What twisted political calculation could possibly make that the right decision for ANY president. As low as my opinion of George W. Bush is, I would never accuse him of that.
So, explain yourself, you warthog-faced buffoon.
Nice respectful treatment of women, Rad. Just like a liberal “man”.
But here’s the calculation. To lay the groundwork, the SOB had been hogging the credit for killing OBL, taking it away from Bush’s Seal Team 6 (which 0bama had cut funding for) that actually did the work. This was done to promote the false narrative that he was tough on terror, and in order to keep that myth intact and in his mind preserve his re-election chances, he peddled the idea that al-Queda was crushed. But the Benghazi attack upended the lie, so when it happened, he had to invent a fake reason. He correctly calculated the MSM would protect him as long as they could. Just through the election is all he figured he needed.
See, 0bama doesn’t care about a legacy; his goal is to knock America off it’s #1 perch. He is an anti-American socialist. He was brought up to hate America. All his mentors and associates hated America. Both his parents hated America. When you think about it, if someone were intentionally trying to bring down this country, both economically and militarily, what would they do differently from what 0bama is doing? So that’s his goal. And he HAS to win a second term to finish the job.
I’m sure it fall on deaf ears because judging from the website of the group Rad works for (to raise the price of coal so as to force the use of alternate energy), he shares 0bama’s goals.
The Princess Bride 1987
Oh dang J M White you beat me…
Anyone remember when right wing media accused the left of “politicizing” national security by questioning failures or mistakes in the Bush administration? No, I guess not.
Let’s revisit:
“The thing I’m most angry about in this country right now is liberals that have politicized this, our national security”. ~Sean Hannity May 2004.
“Your leaders of your party have politicized our country’s national security and you guys ought to be ashamed of yourself.” Hannity scolded Democratic Party chairman Terry McAuliffe in March, 2004. “We are at war and your party has politicized the war, and your party has said false things about the president. Your party calls the president a liar every day.”
Oh, for the good old days…I hear they will be coming back.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eric-boehlert/under-bush-hannity-denoun_b_2008967.html?utm_hp_ref=politics&ir=Politics
+1 #89, and then some.
Well, I guess my math question will get buried by Suzie’s trolling
Looks like SuzieQ went to WalMart again.
https://www.facebook.com/Mayfam1/activity/10151483103788986?ref=notif¬if_t=open_graph_action_comment#!/Z104Fans
Comment by Ron May — October 24, 2012 @ 9:16 pm
If you haven’t figured it out, you have to scroll down a little to see photgraphic proof of SuzieQ’s visit to Walmart.
Nice try, Suzie. But that doesn’t begin to explain why Obama wouldn’t have rushed in help, saving the day and re-inforcing the narrative that he was tough on terror.
You are a miserable excuse for a human being. I once thought maybe you were a liberal parodying a conservative. But no one could pretend to be that callous and stupid.
You stand here exposed as a charlatan, liar and hypocrite. You are a sad, pathetic joke. You have a good life. I’m done with you, and every other thinking poster on this blog – liberal or conservative – should be as well.
Oh, and bonus points to all The Princess Bride fans out there.
Delusion is floating down denial in the belly of a red herring full of strawmen. You lose Suzie, points deducted for fantasy. “Bush’s Seal Team 6” Really? You embarrass women, the educated, the wealthy, Catholics, conservatives and on occasion, the human race. You go girl!
Oh, Suzie, your post at 9:17 is priceless! Funniest thing you’ve written in a long time! ” …his goal is to knock America off it’s #1 perch. He is an anti-American socialist. He was brought up to hate America.” Great satire, I tell ya. You really should write sitcoms.
(Ahem) Katrina?
Jeez, what a lie. If anybody allowed those people to die, it was the Democrats who didn’t use the money they were allocated to fortify the levee. After that, it was Democrat Nagin and the Democrat governor.
Richard the CPA’s diatribes against romeny run counter to most intelligent, unbiased and independent accountant’s views.
Maybe retirement for Richard is best for any of his clients.
Mike O,
You and I do more accounting that Richard does.
that=than
hey you libs,
have you heard about good ol’ vpjoe…well, he strikes again! yeah, he was in Ohio, thought he was in Iowa…and said so. yeah boy, this guy is one heartbeat away from the presidency!
I sure hope oBUMa keeps ol’ vp joe out on the trail, ’cause for sure he’s NOT gonna convince anyone who’s NOT ALREADY in oBUMa’s tank, to well, crawl in, ya know? We all need the laughs. and for goodness sake…ol’ joe just reinforces in smart folks’ minds to NOT vote oBUMa this time around.
Sheesh. You can’t make this stuff up! I’m SERIOUS!
“Both his parents hated America.”
And what better way to get their revenge than to give birth to a child and raise him to one day become the president of that damnable country?
Good to see that you’ve brought out your big clown shoes for tonight. I have to admit, red looks pretty good on you.
hey J.M.,
Surely you don’t condone obama’s complicity in the Benghazi affair, do you? So, because his predicessors where bad folks and got away with bad stuff, you think he just gets a pass? Well, if you follow the main stream media, he IS getting a pass.
John Franklin Stevens, a Special Olympics athlete, responds to Ann Coulter:
http://specialolympicsblog.wordpress.com/2012/10/23/an-open-letter-to-ann-coulter/
Read that, then ponder this: Between Ms. Coulter and Mr. Stevens, who do you think has more class?
hey Suzie,
I’d say you got under ol’ dan r’s skin a little, eh? Well done.
Yeah, the libs on this blog castigate W. for, well, figuratively speaking, …breathing.
hey dave,
How ’bout that moran kid, eh? Wow, he wins the dullest knife in the drawer contest every time, eh?
Even when his daddy and brother are in the same drawer as he is….I think he still wins the prize…but it is a hard-fought contest, I’ll give’em that.
This 3 minute video gives what is, in my view, a solid analysis of where the debt came from.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=LcvLHHMC4iI
Ron May,
That Facebook link is not working for me. It merely calls up a completely blank page.
Dan et al
I know most of my liberal friends do not watch OReiley, last night he presented the results of a poll that said 75% of Americans said they could be good friends with people they disagree with politically. See Dan, Sandi, Gdad, and Kristen ( all my favorite liberals) we can be friends.
I’ll see if I can find a different link. Sorry.
Try this link to see if it works better.
http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/economy/news/2012/10/24/42577/video-where-did-the-debt-come-from/
No Ron, it’s the Facebook/walmart link that doesn’t work. Sorry; I should have been more clear.
Well done danr! It’s past time for her to ride off on her broom. oct. 31 is almost here
“Your supposed comrades are leaving you way out on that branch all by your lonesome” comment by Frank
Frank, Looks like every one of your fellow regressives in the entire country are leaving you hanging on your claim that Ambassador Stevens was raped and tortured. Rmoney isn’t exactly using it, eh?
Okay, so how about telling us what the our U.S. diplomatic corps will make the most frequent subject of cables for tomorrow (Thursday, Oct. 25), Mr. So-In-The-Loop-You-Know-Things-No-One-Else-Does…
Dan R, you know the drill! “…and besides, the pig likes it.”
Hahaha, yakety sax should be wafting through the air while Ron figures out the links.
Say Ron, still nothing on my question about the Exodus??
Every party needs a drunk to punch Suzie, if it gives your life meaning to be ours, who are we to deprive you?
Sorry Dan, I probably can’t find that one as easily. I’ll see if I can find it in another location that allows me to get the picture open.
Michael,
I agree that most of us can get along reasonably well despite our differences on many levels. However, the more radical elements of our political spectrum make that much more difficult than it used to be.
Micheal, did you see my reply to you on the Saturday Open Thread, when you’d alleged that I called you stupid for having a differing opinion?
#65. “Micheal, I didn’t call you stupid. I said that despite your UT degree, you show no better than a mediocre mind, which puts you among the many millions, including myself and most Congressmen, who are much better than stupid but far from exceptional. It’s the middle of the bell curve, and within that I respect you as best I can of someone with such a strong preference for simplistic thinking and jingoistic ideas. And if you read closely, the point I was using “mediocre” to make was that your sons’ daddy is an affirmative action recipient, yet doesn’t seem to want others to get as much help as he’s needed to succeed.
As for Rmoney’s neo-con Bush foreign policy team, remind Mrs. Howdyshell that there’s still plenty of time after 2016 for her boys to be killed trying to bully other countries and steal their resources through war, as you’ve said you support. Just don’t expect any Rmoney or Bush grandsons to share such a fate, though.”
Comment by Warren — October 21, 2012 @ 6:41 pm
So, explain yourself, you warthog-faced buffoon.
(And, yes, I’m calling names. Dan C. allows it, and the circumstances call for it. If you come up with a rational explanation, I will apologize. Bonus points to anyone who knows where the insults come from.)
Comment by Dan Radmacher — October 24, 2012 @ 8:57 pm
How pompous. A rational explanation for an irrational act. Try Fast and
Furious Radmucker. Three hundred plus Mexican citizens dead and one US Border Patrol agent; all to undermine political support for the second amendment; and the White House complicit. . .Executive Privilege means
Obama involved. This administration has no morality; just an anti-American agenda. I believe your comments indicate you fit right in with
these decrepit liberals.
3 minute video gives what is, in my view, a solid analysis of where the debt came from.
Ron, since you don’t know your ass from first base about most issues, you don’t have to bother with the video. We already know it’s going to be a bunch of socialist garbage.
#77 “Ohh, gdud. “Mattie is just a big meanie-face.”
No, matt’s a despicable piece of trash. Big difference.
#80:
Dan, I believe you’ll notice that the other guy talking to Cooch (face obscured by the large arrow) is our own term limit liar Bob Goodlatte, and the signs on the wall behind them indicate that this was taken at the Goodlatte HQ in Harrisonburg in recent weeks.
https://www.facebook.com/CoochWatch2012
Nice try, Suzie. But that doesn’t begin to explain why Obama wouldn’t have rushed in help
0bama didn’t rush in to help because he’s vain narcissistic son of a bitch. He didn’t give a damn about those people he left to die. To rescue them would have been to admit there was an al-queda attack, and that would have put the lie to his year-long phony claim that he’s a foreign policy whiz. And since he sure as hell was a failure domestically, he couldn’t, in his mind, afford to be seen as an inept buffoon in both areas.
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I’m done with you, and every other thinking poster on this blog
Priceless, Rad.
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hey Suzie,
I’d say you got under ol’ dan r’s skin a little, eh? Well done.
Yeah, Frank. Thanks. I do enjoy tweaking the pompous folks from time to time.
Frank: In what way was Obama complicit? Was he involved with the planning of the attacks? Or do you honestly think that he is somehow singularly responsible? Complicity is a very strong word to be using here.
Please don’t play that game with me, Frank. The water is much deeper than that and you know it. As with any tragedy, I’m sure there was a cascading chain of events that led to this debacle. Hands are dirty all over the place, I’m sure, but to allude that Obama is directly responsible for those events is bordering on lunacy.
Obama is not some kind of super-villain, ffs. Don’t even pretend that he sat there stroking a hairless cat, laughing maniacally while Benghazi burned.
I’m digressing… My main question is this: If you’re serious about Obama’s complicity, what specific charges are you leveling against him? No rhetoric. No games.
“Three hundred plus Mexican citizens dead and one US Border Patrol agent; all to undermine political support for the second amendment; and the White House complicit.”
Folks, fyi, if the Justice Department had cracked down on those near-the-border gun dealers, Leon would be on here screaming about the infringement of their rights, too!
Give it a rest, Leon. This dog won’t hunt.
Cooch, Term Limits Bob Goodlatte, and (alleged) GOP skinhead vote fraudster Colin Small all in the same room!
Who woulda thunk?
Did the anti-regulation Gov. Mitt Romney Administration go soft on the Massachusetts pharmacy that produced the fungus-tainted steroids responsible for the deadly meningitis outbreak?
“Both his parents hated America.”
And what better way to get their revenge than to give birth to a child and raise him to one day become the president of that damnable country?
That’s my point. He secured power so he could bring America down. That’s was the plan his communist handlers and mentors cooked up for him decades ago.
It’s unbelievable this unqualified person, this communist could even get near power, but thanks to a partisan leftwing media uninterested in vetting him and the dumber-than-dirt class of Oprah-watchers, his mentors Cloward, Piven, Ayers, and Wright’s dream has come true. It’s really astounding.
And now we’re witnessing this same media aiding and abetting the most disastrous president in history get a second term by simply not covering the most despicable cover-up in American political history. This SOB watched Americans DIE by a live feed for seven hours and refused to have them rescued when he could have done so. The he knowingly concocted a LIE for his administration to disseminate.
Warren
Attacking me and others is not a plan nor is it intelligent discourse of the many problems facing our country. We certainly have different visions for our country. Mrs. Howdyshell and I are encouraging our boys to consider attending military colleges and begin their careers as officers in the United States Military. Their choice but we will support it 100%. You are correct in that I try to simplify
Complex problems.
Once again Mitt Romney benefits by Bain Capital’s shipping American jobs to China.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/24/sensata-bain-mitt-romney_n_2009025.html
It may be poosible that people in Indiana are finally figuring out that Richard Mourdock shouldn’t be elected to the U.S. Senate. In conversations with Mourdock supporters that I know since the recent debate gaffe Mourdock made have those folks shaking their heads in embarrassment. Let’s hope they keep shaking their heads until Nov. 6.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/24/richard-mourdock-rape-october-surprise_n_2012802.html?ref=topbar
135.“Three hundred plus Mexican citizens dead and one US Border Patrol agent; all to undermine political support for the second amendment; and the White House complicit.”
Folks, fyi, if the Justice Department had cracked down on those near-the-border gun dealers, Leon would be on here screaming about the infringement of their rights, too!
Give it a rest, Leon. This dog won’t hunt.
Comment by Dan Casey — October 25, 2012 @ 12:53 am
Perhaps you think because the liberal media you focus on does not cover this scandal that it will go away. The courts move slowly and the administration holds many cards to perpetuate the cover up but, in time,
truth will out and those responsible, including Holder and Obama, will be
held accountable. What is really appalling is citizens like you that give
the impression of being decent reasonable persons yet are complicit and choose ignorance of the matter over holding those responsible accountable. These times are coming to an end. Three hundred lives do matter.
Obama is not some kind of super-villain
Comment by J.M.White — October 24, 2012 @ 11:42 pm
Are you sure J.M.? Do you really know who Obama is? In time, the truth
will out but there is more than enough on the table right now for one to
be completely skeptical about the real agenda of this corrupt administration. Take another gulp of the kool-aid and get some popcorn;
this show is about to get really interesting once your Messiah becomes unelected.
Below is a link to the above the fold article in today’s Indianapolis Star. The Star is the largest circulation paper in the state and is the among the most conservative papers in the midwest. For those of you out there who believe in reason and justice, keep your fingers crossed.
http://www.indystar.com/article/20121024/NEWS0502/121024011/Mourdock-s-comments-rape-abortion-ignite-political-firestorm?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|IndyStar.com
Uh-oh. Ol’ gdud is getting whiny and angry. Sounds like he needs a diaper change(again). Better get to it, gramps.
You right wingers just cannot grasp and hold facts can you? You are certainly Romney’s demographic! Have you no shame?
Good grief, the hate sure is flying around on this thread…
So Frank, it doesn’t matter how vile someones comments are, as long as they get under a libs skin, all is good. Is that how your mind works?
MMM, back in weird manic stalking mode. Beware.
hey J.M., …don’t know about the charges, …yet. right now, I’d say that having some questions raised by the main stream media would be a good start. As far as what he was doing while Benghazi burned, well, I think he was asleep….and forwarded the calls. I’d like to know who the calls were forwarded to.
hey bobsey gdud,
Here’s a mystery for the Bobsey Twins to solve! Who did obuma forward the calls from Benghazi to, while he lay sleeping? Surely you and dave could combine your “wit” (between the both of you, you guys still only have one “wit”)…, and solve that little mystery, eh?
Who took obama’s calls on Benghazi?
hey warren,
You don’t make any sense. And, you clearly don’t have the courage to stand with Kristen.
As far as what today’s cables will contain, I can only suggest that you continue listening to Rush, …and learning.
hey you libs!
Today’s RTs printed an op-ed by Jessee Ring, titled, “Here, honey, take your obama pill”.
I highly recommend that y’all read that’en.
Suzie @ 6:36 You are so freaking funny!!! Thank you for making me LOL!
Ron, is the Star still owned by Dan Quayle’s family?
I don’t believe so Dan. The Pulliam family sold it the Gannett a few years ago. It’s more moderate than when owned by the Pulliams, but still editorially, it’s to the right.
Wow Va must be polling more
For Obama as the teanuts have all come
Out with their really stupid stuff and insults. You can always tell things are going badly when they start this weird
Foolish b.s.
I agree Mark, but Leon, matt, and SuzieQ have the same first amendment rights the rest of us enjoy.
“MMM, back in weird manic stalking mode. Beware.”
Sorry, gdad. I was just saying how much hate is going back and forth on this thread.
Nevermind and have at it!
Richard, you mean ‘foolish b.s.’ like this?
“remind Mrs. Howdyshell that there’s still plenty of time after 2016 for her boys to be killed” – Warren
Suzie, your post at 6:36 this morning is possibly the most stupid thing I’ve ever read, although your post at 9:17 last night comes close.
#159 “Sorry, gdad. I was just saying how much hate is going back and forth on this thread.”
Oh, so that’s what you meant when you said this in #123, MMM?
“Say Ron, still nothing on my question about the Exodus??”
Strange way to say it.
Marked Man – No, i am afraid I don’t see much wrong with someone wanting to keep young men from fighting wars. That is an opinion.
No more like Susie’s wacko take on Obama’s parents. Nothing is further from the truth and is merely slurs based on nothing more than his Dads being from Kneya and Indonesia. The facts are both men loved the US. Came here education to be able to go back and take capitalism and democracy to their countries. Both suffered dearly in their own countries due to their attempts to create democracy instead of the dictatorships they were under. Both lost their fortunes, their livelihoods and their health. Obama’s Mother knew the US was the best place in the world to live and left here husband to return to the US. She sent Obama back early knowing the need for him to be raised here. Obama’s grandfather was a WWII veteran and his mother a hardworking banker.
Susie’s BS is made up fodder of the Teanut and pure stupidity. Anyone that would even repeat such BS is obviously a fool. But we already know Susie, don’t we.
Frank, please stop talking about me because it creeps me the heck out. I don’t need anyone to “stand with me”…the is a blog, and we’re all sitting at our own little keyboards, alone.
marked Man – I also love the insults when the RW knows they are wrong. Why Susie and mike are busy accountants now. It is hilarious that they have pelted Obama for his wanting to drop the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy and have constantly denied the tax cuts he has made over the last four years for small business and the middle class. Yet when Romney is easily caught in lie after lie about his tax plan they stick with the lies. Romney’s tax cut plan is so bad, is easily shown to increase taxes on the middle class and poor and offer huge decreases on the rich, that even he has stopped talking about it. Even a simpleton like Susie could calculate how Romney’s plan affects taxpayers and it is clearly a disaster for the economy, the middle class, and for jobs. So Suzie and mike o resort to insults since they cannot defend their candidate any other way.
Obama has been straight forward with his tax plan, stating exactly what he would do and who it would affect. Romney has tried to hide his plan and lied about its affects. Factual calculations show the truth of the matter. No propaganda, no tricks, just plain facts show that Romney’s plan hurts people that work and the elderly and cuts taxes for the wealthy.
Dan Casey. Gloria Allred.
Warren, Howdyshell is OK. He is a nice guy in full Yuppieville. He has focused his family on achieving success. His politics are representative of where he wants to go and while I disagree with his ideas, reasoning, purpose and method, you have to admire his single focus and hard work on fulfilling his dreams. Let us hope his dreams are met with little heartbreak; that the 50s don’t give him any hard left hooks. Let us hope that the bumps and bruises he is certain to get don’t term him into one of these loons.
hey Debbie,
I haven’t seen anything vile that Suzie’s written. And, when she lays out her opinions, and truths, it makes ol’ dan r mudracker go apes-it! It’s wonderful, I mean, the bonuses we RWer’s get after so many of Suzie posts!
HaHa!
“I agree Mark, but Leon, matt, and SuzieQ have the same first amendment rights the rest of us enjoy.”–Kristen
“…no one genuinely gives a poop about “Benghazi”–Kristen
So, Kristen cares about our first amendment rights. She just doesn’t “give a poop” about our soldiers or ambassadors getting killed.
“That’s my point. He secured power so he could bring America down. That’s was the plan his communist handlers and mentors cooked up for him decades ago.”
OMG…. it’s just like the Manchurian candidate. I mean the first movie, not the second one.
You’ve been back up to the mother ship again, haven’t you?
Suzie said:
Nice respectful treatment of women, Rad. Just like a liberal “man”.
1. We have yet to see any proof that you are a “womkan”.
2. Dan R is generally respectful to those who speak or write in a respectful manner.
3. If you are a “woman” what gives you the right to be treated with respect when you refer to the President as a bastard, an SOB, an idiot “boy”, a monkey “boy”, a retardf boy” and an asshat. Likewise you refer to liberals as assclowns, asshats, and bastards. Respect is earned whetehr you are a man or woman. You clearly have none and deserve none.
Suzie, your post at 6:36 this morning is possibly the most stupid thing I’ve ever read, although your post at 9:17 last night comes close.
The truth is a surprise to Dobbs. I guess he thinks he’ll hear it on “The Colbert Report”.
Frank, please stop talking about me because it creeps me the heck out.
Don’t flatter yourself, Mabel. He didn’t mean like someone wants to physically stand beside you. Yuck.
No gdad, Ron and I and others engaged in an intellectual discussion about God’s love and I asked him about a specific part in Exodus. He quit discussing after that. I thought maybe he had missed my question so I asked again here.
Are you saying that you have never asked on multiple threads why someone hasn’t responded to a question of yours??
Pot. Kettle. Kettle. Pot.
hey kristen,
I think your committment to libism is truer and more courageous than other, what I call “wannabe”, libs on this blog. It is meant as a compliment.
The others are simply devoid in their lib convictions.
hey matt,
kristen doesn’t, in her words, “give a poop” about anything Benghazi.
Gee, I wonder why none of the other self-professed libs take up for her? Has she been ostracised by the libs?
Oh noooo! Where will she go? what will she do? Boo hoo.
Let’s examine this inherent misogyny in liberal men some more, shall we?
Whenever I protest in front of Planned Parenthood, most people who drive by are very nice. They honk and give a thumbs up, etc. But without exception those who give us the finger or yell vile insults are MEN. Both white and black. Usually under 40, but occasionally an old fart like dave here who should know better. For all I know, it was dave.
And the people who are pushing abortion in Congress? Liberal men. Those who wrote the narrative and have convinced gullible women that abortion is a great thing to do? Liberal men. Those who want to exterminate blacks through abortion? Liberal men. Those who make hundreds of millions of dollars a year running abortion clinics? Liberal men. Abortion doctors? Liberal men. Those who marched out slutty Sandra Fluke? Liberal men in the 0bama administration. The biggest abortion proponent in the country today? Barack 0bama, a liberal man. Seeing a pattern here?
Abortion disrespects and dehumanizes a woman like nothing else. Talk about treating a human being like a collection of body parts. What twisted mind could convince poor women it’s in their best interest to destroy their offspring? It wasn’t women. It was liberal men.
If you are a “woman” what gives you the right to be treated with respect when you refer to the President as a bastard, an SOB, an idiot “boy”, a monkey “boy”, a retardf boy” and an asshat.
Those are all accurate descriptions 0bama has earned, although I haven’t used ‘Monkey Boy’ in several months. That’s one of my favorites. I kind of miss it.
So, Kristen cares about our first amendment rights. She just doesn’t “give a poop” about our soldiers or ambassadors getting killed.
Matt, unfortunately to liberals, human life is as expendable as a used kleenex.
Hey Frank, if Suzie believes half the stuff he/she posts, he/she is a raving lunatic. See her post at 6:37 am. She is right up your alley, ol’ buddy. I prefer not to get anywhere near that neighborhood.
BTW Frank, opinions and the truth are two very separate things.
Micheal, trying to over-simplify complex problems is not intelligent discourse, and nothing on Bill O’Reilly’s show is either.
#121, I wrote:
“Frank, Looks like every one of your fellow regressives in the entire country are leaving you hanging on your claim that Ambassador Stevens was raped and tortured.”
And #152, Frank replied:
” hey warren, You don’t make any sense”
We report, you decide.
…As far as what he was doing while Benghazi burned, well, I think he was asleep….and forwarded the calls. I’d like to know who the calls were forwarded to.
Comment by Frank — October 25, 2012 @ 9:02 am
Your story is at odds with your hero, Suzie’s. According to her, Obama watched it all live and did nothing. Which is kind of the point I’ve been trying to make all along. The stories are still conflicting. The truth of it all hasn’t come out.
To condemn and accuse a man of crimes (complicity) without a trial or even solid evidence makes a mockery of our justice system. The media has nothing to do with real justice; it can be a catalyst for it, but it’s not the instrument of it. You’ve even gone so far as to say the ambassador was raped, just to add a little travesty to the tragedy. That’s just shameful, Frank. The man’s body wasn’t even cold before you started that line of BS.
I know that you’re not an idiot. You suffer from the worst form of confirmation bias, yes, but it doesn’t mean that you’re unintelligent. When you learn to view all things with an even-keeled skepticism, you can unlock your full potential. As it stands now, you think that everything that comes from the liberal sources is a lie and everything that comes from conservative sources is gospel. That’s ludicrous and you know it. When it comes to politics, the truth is always in the middle, buried under an avalanche of spin and distortions from both sides.
I wish the world was black and white. I really wish it was that simple. It’s not. It’s time for everyone to wake up. These are the UNITED States. We are all doomed to failure unless we come together, pull our collective heads out of our asses and do the right thing. The divisiveness has to stop or we will all be the instruments of our own undoing. Divided, we fall.
Jeez Frank, if I didn’t know you were an old man, I’d think you were a 13 year old girl. It might not be too late to get a life.
Suzie at 11:43
Of course they are.Not! And Dan R’s descriptions of you were totally accurate and on point. You earned every one of them.
Can anyone miss the irony of Frank saying to Warren, “You don’t make any sense”? Dear God, the stench of right wing lunacy. What a boring world it would be if we were all sane, rational and competent.
Beat your dead horses Frank, we all know you will pipe down the moment Romney/Ryan takes the reins and will not criticize them no matter what. Bush is still responsible for far more deaths than Obama and for far less reason.
I do see a recurring theme with failed State and CIA/FBI information, assessments and activity, so I guess some things never change. Can’t wait to see what Dumb and Dumber do if they win. Of course, we know it won’t matter to any of you. You will be in here defending what you now condemn. Just like Hannity.
“The thing I’m most angry about in this country right now is liberals that have politicized this, our national security”. ~Sean Hannity May 2004.
“Your leaders of your party have politicized our country’s national security and you guys ought to be ashamed of yourself.” Hannity scolded Democratic Party chairman Terry McAuliffe in March, 2004. “We are at war and your party has politicized the war, and your party has said false things about the president. Your party calls the president a liar every day.”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eric-boehlert/under-bush-hannity-denoun_b_2008967.html?utm_hp_ref=politics&ir=Politics
Frank, maybe you should just channel Kristen’s view on things: No one cares about Benghazi, terrorist attacks, or dead Americans. Get over it, man. No one gives a poop.
hey J.M.,
I agree with much of what you say. My main point is that while we don’t know exactly what happened in Benghazi… we DO know that it did not unfold in any way remotely similar to the garbage which the UN ambassador fed all the sunday morning news shows, and we were fed by the obama admin, and hillary, for long after many of us knew we were being lied to.
I say “many” of us, so as to not include the main stream media and the people who have a deep blue hue from all the kool-aid they drink morning, noon, and night.
Now that CBS is grudgingly comming around, maybe there will be a true public accountability to this whole crappy thing.
Thanks for your thoughts. You express them very well.
hey warren, none of us know what happened to the ambassador, except that he was brutally murdered, and obuma and hillary did nothing to save him. That is a fact. Deal with it. And, until this is fully investigated, both could be viewed as being complicit in his death, given the security lapse at the Embassy and Consulate which is now pretty widely known. I bet even you are aware of that.
as far as what happened to his body, as far as I know, we’ll have to wait for that…which I clearly stated to you a while back. but, i realize that some stuff just can’t penetrate your dense skull to get to your pea-brain.
you are being boringly repetitive, warren. it’s not a good thing to be so publicly repetitive.
I would dearly love to see Frank “channel” me.
Frank, only you can help your comprehension of facts.
“In the immediate aftermath, there was information that led us to assess that the attack began spontaneously following protests earlier that day at our embassy in Cairo. We provided that initial assessment to Executive Branch officials and members of Congress, who used that information to discuss the attack publicly and provide updates as they became available. Throughout our investigation we continued to emphasize that information gathered was preliminary and evolving.”
http://www.odni.gov/index.php/newsroom/press-releases/96-press-releases-2012/731-statement-on-the-intelligence-related-to-the-terrorist-attack-on-the-u-s-consulate-in-benghazi,-libya
You may ask them why their intelligence was so poor, or poorly interpreted, but stop accusing people of lying when the facts back them up!
Dan,
Re: 8:06
I believe any attempt at “fraud” in registration or in voting should be investigated and the perpetrators prosecuted, no matter if it is this R person or a D person like Jim Moran’s son.
“you are being boringly repetitive, warren. it’s not a good thing to be so publicly repetitive.”
Frank, I can’t speak to the irony of this coming off your keyboard.
mike O,
Jim Moran’s son committed no crime and, if you don’t know that, Cooch certainly does. You should ask him and you’ll see that I’m correct.
Unlike the dude in Harrisonburg, who was intent on make sure 8 or 9 Democrats would not be able to vote on election day.
“I would dearly love to see Frank “channel” me.”–Kristen
Yikes, Kristen. You should probably make that kind of request in private.
kristen, knowing what I know about you, I really couldn’t go anywhere near THAT tree branch…., …although, you sure do have courage and conviction, while the other libs just have kool-aid parties.
hey dano, if jim moron’s son had half a brain cell, his response to o’keefe would have been, “i don’t cheat” or, “dems don’t cheat”.
what an idiot, from a family of same. nuts don’t fall from the tree, ya’ know.
Thanks Richard! I, for what ever its worth, include you in the list of my liberal friends, and one of the good guys. Warren as I have said many times i’m a very simple person with a fairly simple mind.
I don’t think you’re simple minded, Michael.
Kristen@#12:45
13? That’s way too much credit! More like 8!
noooo, sandi,
Those aren’t facts. a fact is something that is, well, ahhh…, …, true.
hey Machael A., warren IS simple. period.
#194 LOL Kristen! Frank only says the same thing over and over again until he gets tired of that subject, then he moves on to a new one and repeats it over and over……
Frank,I appreciate the compliments but I have to say, I wish Dans blog was the bravest thing I did every day.
Matt, that was actually funny.
You may ask them why their intelligence was so poor, or poorly interpreted, but stop accusing people of lying when the facts back them up!
Comment by Sandi Saunders — October 25, 2012 @ 4:10 pm
I reserve the right, when the facts clearly indicate Obama and Clinton knew it was a terrorist action within 2 hours of the incidents beginning which incident lasted 7 hours. They did nothing but come up with a lie
about the incident they felt would be palatable to the American people and the world; and then spread that shameful lie for two full weeks causing other people in the MidEast to riot and attack other U.S. embassies and those of out Allies.
Why are you not demanding the resignation of Obama and Clinton? This incident is beyond dereliction of duty, it is treason.
Do you support treason Sandi? Reckon so if it has Obama’s name associated with it!
Warren
Just read your above post. The Dean of students at UT would probably agree with you. I don’t believe I have ever received anything through affirmative action. The closest thing in our family history, back to the 1500s is my Grandmother received a pension from Virginia until her death in 1975 as she was the daughter of a Confederate Officer. You will be pleased to know my older brother has a PHd and I have two uncles that were judges so clearly others in my family got the brains. All I got was a very simplistic mind and a determination to succeed. As I do have a simple mind i just don’t understand how anyone could vote for four more years of the same.
101.
Nice try, Suzie. But that doesn’t begin to explain why Obama wouldn’t have rushed in help, saving the day and re-inforcing the narrative that he was tough on terror.
You are a miserable excuse for a human being. I once thought maybe you were a liberal parodying a conservative. But no one could pretend to be that callous and stupid.
You stand here exposed as a charlatan, liar and hypocrite. You are a sad, pathetic joke. You have a good life. I’m done with you, and every other thinking poster on this blog – liberal or conservative – should be as well.
Comment by Dan Radmacher — October 24, 2012 @ 9:32 pm
Radmucker; you are wrong. Suzie is right. Since you are done; go crawl back under your rock. Better yet. . .spend your time proving the ages old liberal theory. . .”that it is theoretically possible to pick up a turd by it’s clean end.” This will keep you occupied for the rest of your
retirement and we won’t have to read anymore of your irrational liberal tripe.
From Sandi
“Beat your dead horses Frank, we all know you will pipe down the moment Romney/Ryan takes the reins and will not criticize them no matter what.”
And you can see that coming a mile away, because Tea Party Mitt has quickly become Mass Gov. Mitt in the general election and it’s very unlikely the Franks, Suzies and Dotos of the world are going to get a Pres with the principles they think they are getting. All that bluster about what a true conservative he is wouldn’t wash in the general election, so all of a sudden he’s become what his political career has been: a moderate republican. Nixon’s strategery.
But that won’t matter to the blind ideologues, cause he’s their man. Didn’t matter with President Bush when he convinced the nation we needed to be in a couple of wars and could put it all on the VISA card. Or when he expanded the role government and created a new security agency without paying for it, or the prescription drug benefit. Where has W. been during this election? You’d think a former President could be of some help
Not that I actually think Mitt is gonna be elected. The senate candidates on his ticket are doing the best they can to draw attention away from the economy by constantly yammering on about the wonderful, magical supernatural things that happen after a women is raped. Who knew? Can you believe Todd Akin sits on a Congressional science committee?
76.
Voter fraud should be investigated no matter where it leads.
Comment by mike O — October 24, 2012 @ 7:49 pm
Agreed; and punished with jail time and the loss of voting privilege for life.
3 Virginia lawmakers seek federal voter fraud probe”
Comment by gdad — October 24, 2012 @ 10:06 am
And one of them is Jim Moran. . .LOL, LOL, LOL, ROTFLOL!
19.MC, because no one genuinely gives a poop about “Benghazi”.
Comment by Kristen — October 24, 2012 @ 1:05 pm
This has to be the most callous, disgusting post ever put on this blog.
If this is the liberal mindset then Howdyshell is wrong; we can never be
friends of people like Kristen…we should even avoid acquaintance.
Four people were tortured and murdered while Obama sat watching it on the drone cam and making up some lie to blame the attack on when he could have
been sending help.
Perhaps, if it had been Obama, or Kristen, being attacked some of us might give less of a poop but would still care unlike their ilk.
Oh Warren you have to add an MBA as a contributing factor to my simple mind. What I don’t understand about the terrorist act is why in one of the mist dangerous countries in the world the Ambassador did not have aleast a company of marines providing security. I feel especially saddened about the Ambassadors death as he was in the same Fraternity as me, Alpha Tau Omega. But what do I know I’m just a simple minded construction worker. Oh today is my 15th wedding anniversary. 15 years ago today Mrs Howdyshell and I were married at Hollins College. We spent the night at The Patrick Henry then went to Grand Caymen. A start to a beautiful life for two simple minded people.
Happy 15th, Michael and the Mrs. Here’s to at least 15 more!
Debbie
#194 LOL Kristen! Frank only says the same thing over and over again until he gets tired of that subject, then he moves on to a new one and repeats it over and over……
Comment by Debbie — October 25, 2012 @ 6:07 pm
In that respect Gomer is a lot like terps only terps manages not to come off sounding like an 8 year old redneck.
So Leon thinks the President sat and watched the attack happen, doing nothing about what he saw. And Frank thinks the President slept through it, forwarding his calls to others. It seems the regressive’s scandal fabrication machine has created two conflicting stories, and they don’t even care. I suppose one is for those who need to believe the President is casually derelict in his duties, while the other story appeals to those with a need to add perverse sadism to their delusions of the President.
It’s not dissimilar to the many styles of Rmoney from which they choose, with no apparent cognitive dissonance: Massachusetts moderate or severe conservative, Tea Party isolationist or neo-con hawk, social issue evangelical or secular engineer, etc.
Michael Howdyshell – Happy Anniversary! 15 years and many more.
91. Bill Perdue – (1,000,000 – X)*.5=150,000 or 700,0000 of deductible investment. Under Obama’s tax law a large piece of equipment would do it.
If your interest the first year is 10% the you would add in the deduction of the interest (x +.1x)=700,000 or 636,363.64 borrowed.
You would have to know if and how much the equipment would depreciate in fmv to determine how much you would have to earn to make a profit plus consider operating costs. You would need to buy less equipment if you increase operating costs to keep the same 150,000 in tax.
If you equipment lost 5% of its value and you had zero operating cost then you would have to earn at least the $31,818 plus interest of the same $63,636 to break even assuming you did not sell the equipment at the end of the year for its FMV. (Using FMV accounting, not tax or GAAS).
Its late tonight, so check my math for me Bill.
“What I don’t understand about the terrorist act is why in one of the mist dangerous countries in the world the Ambassador did not have aleast a company of marines providing security.”
Wanna know who voted to cut funding for embassy security?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mobileweb/2012/10/10/jason-chaffetz-embassy_n_1954912.html
http://kaystreet.wordpress.com/2012/10/15/gop-congressman-votes-to-cut-funding-for-embassy-security-then-blames-obama-for-libya-attacks/
http://m.dailykos.com/story/2012/10/19/1147325/-House-GOP-Paul-Ryan-Cut-400M-from-Embassy-Safety-Funding
Thanks Dan. The most important job any of us will ever have is raising responsible productive children. I hope we can do as good a job as you and Mrs Casey have done.
Bill
I agree with your basic assumption that the tax code should encourage investment. And that is only one part of the equation. I don’t know that your model provides enough information to make a decision. When we consider a capital investment we certainly look at any tax advantages but more importantly we look at the present value of future cash flows. In other words in today’s dollars how much money is that capital investment going to return over the life of the investment. If I remember the math correctly from my economics and calculus class the formula is a function of the increased value of current dollars / the decreased value of the assist over time plus the anticipated cash flow expressed in present value dollars. I think this will generate the net present value of future cash flows assuming a continuous cash flow generated by the capital investment. If I had to I could probably find the formulas somewhere but I think that is the basic assumptions. Since our business generates “ordinary income” for the business we can’t assume 15% capital gain tax rate. If the net present value of future cash flows plus any tax savings exceeds the initial investment then the investment makes sense. But what do I know I’m just a simple minded construction worker.
hey warren, you big dope, why don’t YOU tell us what potus was doing…in real time, as Benghazi was blazing? Eh?
Frank, shall I refer to your above comment about being repetitive?
hey kristen,
I figured warren needed to widen his search for the truth. He’ll find his truth once he considers what obama was doing while Benghazi was burning.
Michael, congratulations on your 15 years of successful marriage, I wish you many more. It is a special bond that fulfills life when it is right. I agree with you about “raising responsible productive children” and consider it the duty we owe the world and our children.
I think you should really say you are a simple man, not a “simple-minded” man. You know what “simple-minded” means in the south and you are not it. Surely you are capable of subtlety, and some level of sophisticated or complex thinking? No need to sell yourself short just because you prefer simple, linear, uncomplicated thought, as long as it is honest. Rigidity in all things can make you appear small, remember that.
Now, tell me, you say you want your children to grow up responsible and productive, does that mean you offer them opportunity, encouragement and the tools to achieve that goal or do you kick them to the street and tell them to get it on their own if they want it?
How about your friends, neighbors, family, church friends or employees Michael? Do you assist them in their quest for success or dare them access to you and yours? Do you give them support, encouragement, tools, tips, maybe even donate to their care, cause or education?
My guess is that you have helped people and were glad to do it.
My guess is that you are friendly, warm and willing to help someone at a moment’s notice.
My guess is you give your children chances and make efforts to teach them and enrich their lives to help them learn, like to compete, participate and succeed so they will always live that model.
My guess is you clearly see the value of helping people when they need it and realize that giving opportunity is what helps motivate and inspire people.
My guess too, is that you applaud the guys like Romney that literally game the system to become rich at the same time you decry the lazy, unmotivated poor, simple-minded people who game the safety net system.