A fly on the wall over at American Crossroads
Sheldon Adelson, Karl Rove, Charles Koch
I had another tacky and disrespectful dream — man, these things get me in trouble.
I was a fly on the wall of an opulent conference room at American Crossroads up in Warrenton.
GOP financiers Sheldon Adelson and Charles Koch were sitting silently and grimly at a polished walnut table.
Before them were large, solid gold platters, and heaped on each were huge salads made from shredded $100 bills.
As they choked down that paper they sipped from large crystal tumblers full of tea.
In walks Republican election genius Karl Rove.
ROVE: Now fellas, before you start shouting . . .
KOCH: You shut up!
ADELSON: You promised us we’d win!
KOCH: Where’s your jerk butt-buddy, Dick Armey?!
ROVE: Guys, guys, I know you’re upset —
ADELSON: I want my $43 million back!
ROVE: Shel, now calm down. That’s not the way it works —
KOCH: I want my $260 million back!
ADELSON: Obama’s still president! Holder is still attorney general! George Allen’s NOT a senator! Thanks to you I may wind up in jail!
KOCH: And I’m not getting a tax cut! Hey I need that tax cut!
ADELSON: Obamacare’s not going to be repealed! Do you have any idea how much that’s gonna cost my company?
KOCH: And we’re not doing a U-turn on global warming! Do you realize how much that’s gonna cost Koch Industries?
ROVE: You can blame Chris Christie, not me. He’s the one who kissed Obama’s butt the weekend before the election. Besides, guys, you’ve gotta look on the bright side.
KOCH: Karl, what are you smoking? Some legal Colorado weed? What ‘bright side?’
ROVE: We put Indiana and North Carolina back in our column, and . . .
ADELSON: Karl, you’re so full of it!
ROVE: . . .the president’s percentages dropped in every state except Hawaii and Mississippi, and . . .
KOCH: I can’t believe I’m hearing this stuff!
ADELSON: Karl, you promised us the Senate. You didn’t deliver.Now there’s MORE Democrats in the Senate!
ROVE: Well, a couple of your guys opened their dumb mouths about rape and . . .
KOCH: Rape! Rape? The only rape I give a rat’s ass about is how badly my company’s gonna get raped by the EPA with Obama still in control!
ADELSON: I don’t even want to hear that word! I might be going to prison and . . .
KOCH: They’re YOUR guys, too, Karl.
ROVE: Not that dimwit Akin. Look, Shel, Charlie we hung onto the House. Give me a break.
ADELSON: We didn’t need to spend $300 million to hang onto the House, Karl!
KOCH: You screwed up, Karl.
ADELSON: Where is Armey, Karl? You still haven’t answered that question.
ROVE: Dick’s on a bender right now. He’s depressed.
ADELSON: HE’S depressed? He’s DEPRESSED? Not as depressed as me. I might spend the rest of my life in prison.
ROVE: Next time we’re gonna need more money, and . . .
KOCH: MORE money, Karl? MORE? Hell, we killed nine entire forests to make all those flyers you sent out. You made 18 billion robocalls.
ROVE: It wasn’t enough. Next time we’re gonna need $1 billion.
ADELSON: If I’m in jail you’re not getting a dime out of me!
KOCH: I’ll get your money Karl. A billion is nothing. But next time, your nuts are going to be on the line. If we don’t win . . .
ROVE: (Wincing). Sure thing, Charlie. We’re gonna win.
KOCH: I wanna run Jim DeMint!
ROVE: Then you’re gonna have to cough up $2 billion.
KOCH: I want DeMint to be president, Karl.
ROVE: Okay, okay. But it’ll take $2 billion.
ADELSON: I don’t want to go to prison, Karl.
ROVE: With $2 billion we can get the Hispanic to vote even for DeMint.
ADELSON: (Snorts) @#$#$%^!!#%&s!
KOCH: Mexicans!
ROVE: Those are the realities. $2 billion is what it’s gonna take.
KOCH: (Pulls out his checkbook) I’ll give you half now, Karl. But your nuts are on the line.
ROVE: Thanks, Charlie. I knew I could count on you. Shel, good luck staying out of prison.
ADELSON: You turdblossom!
(As Rove leaves the room, he pulls out his cell phone and hits a number on speed dial.)
ROVE: Dick? Charlie fell for it hook, line and sinker. I got a check for $1 billion, with more to come. But we gotta run DeMint . . . I know. Yeah. You got that Caymans account all set up, right? Okay. See you at the bar. Order me a 4-pound lobster. Tell Mitt he’s a putz.
(Back in the conference room, Adelson picks up his fork.)
ADELSON: I hope the food in the pokey is better than this crap.
November 9, 2012 - 6:00 AM
Actually,
I think the Koch brothers haved decided it’s much more easy and practical to purchase state legislative offices. Apparently Kansas recently became a successful focus, and Arkansas is next. 2 billion can purchase a whole bunch of local idiots.
The Republicans are still in denial as to why Obama was re-elected. Yesterday, Karl Rove claimed that Obama’s negative ads had suppressed the vote. The talking heads have blamed everyone and everything they can for the shellacking. Everything except….the Republican platform. I think the Republican ticket did itself in.
Honestly, I have been quite pessimistic about the intelligence of American voters. I had convinced myself that they ignored the facts and heard what they wanted to hear. I assumed that the constant, nonstop barrage of misinformation the RWers were presenting was convincing people of this: Romney good, Obama bad. Must vote for good. The Democrats did what they needed to do get Obama re-elected, but the GOP buried itself by assuming that people couldn’t think for themselves.
However, on Tuesday night I changed my mind. Some of the answers people were giving in the exit polls told me that alot of folks weren’t drinking the Romney Koolaid.
With the state of the economy and many people unhappy with Obama, it was the Republicans’ race to lose. And they did.
Maybe money can’t buy a president.
My opinion of the American voter is much higher today and in the future I won’t be so quick to listen to the hype myself.
So why is Sheldon adelson going to prison?
That is what fly swatters are for. I prefer the electric kind, even though it’s only for show. I have a feeling tonight’s dream is going to take an unexpected turn.
Dan, Dan, Dan. Kindly stop picking on these kind, philanthropic job creators. They are exhausted from “pulling the wagon” …
The man behind the curtain is ugly…really ugly. Thanks America!
You’re right about the denial, Alfred. They refuse to believe that the Republicans lost this race all by themselves. If this election wasn’t a wake up call, they will never get it.
Mean ol’ Dan, picking on the millionaires and billionaires of this great democratic country of ours… Be ashamed! Be ashamed!
Despite all that business experience Romney had, the election proves he was not the best manager. Even Fox News admitted as much.
http://www.nationalmemo.com/even-fox-news-admits-it/
“The Romney camp made three crucial miscalculations:
•They assumed Democratic turnout would be lower than in 2008, and GOP turnout higher. The reverse was true.
•They overestimated the importance of Romney’s lead among independents. Turns out, many people polled as “independents” were ex-Republicans, which is why polls appeared to undersample Republicans.
•They believed undecided voters would break for him late; instead exit polls showed they broke for the president.
There was one last dagger for Romney on election night, though he might not have known it at the time. Chris Christie personally called Barack Obama to congratulate him, Bloomberg reports. He gave his condolences to Romney via email.”
http://www.newser.com/story/157286/shocked-romney-hastily-composed-concession.html
The Republican Party should listen to this woman.
http://www.nationalmemo.com/a-lesson-from-ohio/
Dan,
For all the good you do,stop and look up George Soros. He has out bankrolled this team by 10 times.But I guess he is in the “right” corner.
@Ron May,
Great article! I think we could all learn a lesson from this article. Some folks just don’t know how to view the world with someone else’s eyes. Making a valid attempt to do so, will always reap many rewards. IMO
JT
#10 The other day Dave posted a link of Dick Morris explaining why his “landslide” prediction was way off base. His explained that he considered the’08 election turnout to be an aberration so he based his predictions on the ’04 election turnout! Is that not head in the sand thinking, if in fact his explanation can be believed? He in essence said “I’ll base my predictions on the last time the GOP won, so I can’t go wrong there”. He went on to concede that minority voters have indeed increased as reflected in the ’08 election. He and the GOP constructed an alternative reality and ended up believing their own fantasy that appealing primarily to the WASP vote and only paying lip service to the minorities win would another election, just like 8 years ago.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/11/07/dick_morris_explains_why_his_landslide_prediction_was_wrong.html
The extreme one-sided treatment by the U.S. media is the number one cause of America’s destruction. They push an agenda until it is accepted by society while they keep pertinent facts from the population.
God will win in the end, but He does allow His people to go through tribulation. The people of Russia were imprisoned for 70 years by their government. Cuba for 50. Somehow Americans think it can’t happen here, but it’s already begun.
Human nature dictates the few will always try to control the many for selfish reasons. Democrats prosper by holding more and more people in dependence and taking away more and more liberty. Their media has pushed the victimization mentality until it has taken hold in the majority. Our country has held strong for two centuries, but about 100 years ago forces of socialism began to enter (as the founders predicted and tried to guard against). And now America is following the same path into decline as the world’s other great civilizations.
Not to be pessimistic, but I think America has reached critical mass. The givers and doers are outnumbered by the takers. And we have a media pushing this attitude to the hilt.
America has abandoned God. The vast majority of Democrats don’t attend church. Few leftwing media members do. Even so-called Catholics whose faith is being attacked aren’t fighting back. Divorce, out-of-wedlock births, and abortion are being presented and accepted as the norm. There is no longer societal shame attached to any of these.
It’s really a tough call for my husband and me. Do we stay and continue to help out the good people who work for us and the local economy of SW Virginia? But this entails supporting a corrupt federal government and furthering enabling a system in which 99% of a local precinct can allegedly vote themselves more goodies. Or do we take our resources to some tropical island, deprive the U.S. government of a lot of tax dollars, and just concentrate our time and energy on the world’s truly poor people?
GREAT link and great lesson indeed Ron!
I’m not in denial. I said Obama would win. The only surprise for me was the popular vote. I figured it would be closer.
That aside, I am having trouble figuring out why libs and media are proclaiming this to be such a “shellacking” (Rachel Maddow). Obama won with 2.5% margin of victory. That is hardly a shellacking. In fact, there have only be about 9 or 10 presidential elections that were closer. Isn’t the average margin of victory in presidential elections somewhere around 9.5%? Unless you think Bush’s victory over Kerry was also a blowout, there’s no way to say this one was.
The aptly named bubba, is wronga.
One day you Right wingers are in here screaming about how great the ratings are for FAUX and FlimFlambaugh and all the right wing “giants” and the next, it is all the fault of the MSM, which according to you, no one watches or trusts. Will you make up you minds? Or at least grab a story and stick with it?
This election was a repudiation of the “number one cause of America’s destruction”, the right wing lies, hate and stunted POV. Your “few will always try to control the many for selfish reasons” and America has said “no” twice now. GO AMERICA!
60+ million of us are living the “work hard” mantra every day and have not been able to get or stay ahead for well over a decade. I do not blame the economy on the crisis, I blame the economy on those wealth protecting and inducing Republicans who dreamed up the schemes and ruined the system by putting a bubble on steroids, to a lesser degree I also blame the Democrats who fell for “pie in the sky”; so claiming WE are the party of “free stuff” and “takers” is even more ludicrous when you look at who got what. They “got the gold mine, we got the shaft”.
Whining about “takers” and so called “makers” or “doers” is class warfare and nonsense to boot! Americans have been working hard with little to show for it for a long, long time and even less has “trickled down”. The tide has been rising for the wealthy and drowning the rest of us.
The actual “takers” (if you must use that epithet) are people who cannot work harder, achieve more or take care of themselves, no one has to like it, but you might want to explain what it is you think they are supposed to do.
Your sour grapes are just the bitter fruit of being wrong. Blaming the economic crash on Obama did not work in the campaign and it will not work here. The meme of people wanting to be on welfare instead of working is so over used and people, even without jobs, need to feed their families. What is up with begrudging people the humiliating status of using food stamps? How far do we have to fall as a people?
You may not respect their sad efforts but the Occupy movement was generated out of a very real concern about the way this nation is manipulated by Wall Street. WalMart is now perfectly happy to interrupt Thanksgiving so they can pit poor people against each other in their pursuit of Christmas for their families. But of course that is corporate greed so it is the “good kind”!
No one has asked for “someone else to pay for their birth control” either, many of us pay a good portion of our health insurance, we just want it covered under the plan and do not believe our boss should make that decision for us. Why do you think you should decide that for your employees?
Whine that people voted “for free stuff” if it makes the medicine of your defeat go down, but know that we do not believe you.
Reforms are coming, for us all. At least now we have a good chance that the whole burden will not be on the worker’s back.
Given the purposeful “chaos in Washington”, I don’t expect any answers will come from those crippled by their hate, judgement and bitter partisan agenda. In that respect, it is all on us to save this country. Maybe someday, you all will figure out why that really is and stop blaming it on “free stuff”. That clock is not even ticking, it is stopped.
Suzie@10:33
We’ll miss your money for about ten minutes. Then we’ll be over it. Sayonnara.
“One day you Right wingers are in here screaming about how great the ratings are for FAUX and FlimFlambaugh and all the right wing “giants” and the next, it is all the fault of the MSM, which according to you, no one watches or trusts. Will you make up you minds? Or at least grab a story and stick with it?”
And hilarity ensues again.
The truth is, a lot of conservatives were very surprised on Tuesday. And part of the reason for that is they believed the stuff about all the polls being biased in Obama’s favor. That’s why Suzie was so confidently predicting a Romney landslide.
This is in large part because of Unskewedpolls.com, and Dean Chambers, who works out of his apartment in tiny Duffield, Va, down in Scott County. His stuff made it onto the Rush Limbaugh show and the meme about biased polls took off from there.
I’ve spent a lot of time on the phone with Chambers last week and this week,. He’s the subject of my column Sunday.
And I have to admit that I find the irony here absolutely delicious. Because it’s not the “evil mainstream media” that led all those hopeful-for-Romney’s-election folks awry. It was the expectations created by the unfiltered right-wing media’s trumpeting of Dean Chambers and his theories.
Those fueled RWers’ delusions leading up to Election Day.
And btw, Dean Chambers made a lot of money doing that.
Do you wildly successful but apparently emotion driven “business owners” not realize someone was in your place before you and someone will be in your place after you? You are a blip. The vacuum you believe you will leave will be replaced. Likely as not, quickly. You are, once again, buying your own hype.
So let’s see, suzie wants us to believe that hubby will just close up his incredibly successful company (that is if there really is any company) instead of selling it for millions? Smart businessman.
And the thing is, Dan…ordinarily, being so terribly wrong would destroy one’s credibility for the future. But with conservatives, they like hearing things that meld with their opinions, so he’ll likely not experience a whole lot of fallout. At least in 1996 when I worked on the Dole campaign, it was fairly clear that Clinton was going to win reelection. But, we trudged on anyway, with a hope that maybe we could make progress. But, we were deluded to beliving a total fabricated falsehood that Dole would be a landslide winner…
Chuck: Obama won by more than Bush (both times). He won by more than Kennedy did in 1960, or Nixon did in 1968. It was a resounding electoral college victory and, given the hundreds of millions of dollars spent by outside groups on a onslaught of negative advertising, it was an extremely convincing popular vote win as well.
Bush, who didn’t even break 300 electoral college votes in 2004, claimed he had a mandate and had earned political capital to spend on his agenda.
Obama can clearly claim the same.
Dan,
Mr. Chambers made a lot of money selling a product to a willing consumer. Capitalism at work!
Sorry, we were *not* deluded…I left that out.
The bottom line is this. The Rove’s and Morris’s thought the voter suppression programs instituted at the state levels since 2010 were going to deliver a GOP win no matter who the candidate was. THEY WERE WRONG. People came out to vote in spite of the roadblocks put in place by the GOP and stood in line and waited. And they voted. God Bless America!
Susie, why don’t you changed your avatar to whinny assed Ayn Rand. You sound just like her before she started taking Social Security. Better yet, go find that Island, village, of were ever it is you think people love you. Just like the fiction show Survivor, you just might be the first one voted off!
23.So let’s see, suzie wants us to believe that hubby will just close up his incredibly successful company (that is if there really is any company) instead of selling it for millions? Smart businessman.
Comment by gdad — November 9, 2012 @ 1:07 pm
The best option gdad would be to sell it to his employees.
The bottom line is this. The Rove’s and Morris’s thought the voter suppression programs instituted at the state levels since 2010 were going to deliver a GOP win no matter who the candidate was. THEY WERE WRONG. People came out to vote in spite of the roadblocks put in place by the GOP and stood in line and waited. And they voted. God Bless America!
Comment by Cold n P — November 9, 2012 @ 1:29 pm
. . .Except for the US military personnel stationed overseas. . .wonder who suppressed that vote? Oh, wait. . .who’s the Commander in Chief?
This election was a repudiation of the “number one cause of America’s destruction”, the right wing lies, hate and stunted POV. Your “few will always try to control the many for selfish reasons” and America has said “no” twice now. GO AMERICA!
Comment by Sandi Saunders — November 9, 2012 @ 12:22 pm
How’s that Hopey-Changey thing working out for you? Since the election;
massive lay offs; everywhere…aviation, coal, durable goods, batteries.
Looks like we have double unemployment just like we got double the debt in the first 4 years.
In Lake Claytor’s glaring absence, poster #15 steps forward to affirm that Tuesday’s defeat of regressive candidates is part of God’s perfect plan. But perhaps regressive trainer-in-chief Jerry Falwell Jr.’s business model somehow disagrees.
One of your better such pieces, Dan, but you also had better material to work with this time.
I would add that Adelson will likely never go inside an American jail, because he can easily use Israel as an alternate domicile. He publishes a Likud supporting free newspaper that’s strangling the other newspapers there, and has given tens of millions to politicians and causes there, so his welcome in Israel is certain.
PRECISELY RON! That is very often the best option for the employees they claim to care about. Depending of course on how they ran it and who is capable. Something tells me that the employees of the fantasy Suzie company would be ill prepared to take over a small dumpster with the strangle hold she claims to wield.
Sour grapes, Leon! The overseas military’s vote wasn’t suppressed. And even if it had been, could it have overcome Obama’s lead? No. Keep in mind that Romney got 2 million fewer votes than McCain.
Leon, that has been an ongoing problem that is not unique to this election. It’s been a long-standing issue with deployed troops, many of whom serve in areas where mail access is difficult, or impossible. I remember it being a problem in the 80′s, 90′s, and 2000′s. Technology has improved, but getting votes tallied from Americans in overseas locations is still stuck in the relative stone age.
It could be partly remedied through early voting, so military personnel who know they will be deployed could vote prior to shipping out. Of course that relies on their deployments happening at a time when the ballots are set, which leaves a small window. If some form of secured electronic voting could be implemented, so that troops stationed in foreign engagements, or simply at sea, could send in their certified vote instantly when they had access to a secured internet connection…that could help.
Bottom line is, it’s not a partisan conspiracy, it’s just a problem our troops have always faced that needs to be corrected. We have the technology…let’s make it happen.
Leon assumes (wrongly) that the overseas military vote would be 100% for Romney….baaaloooneeey!
Where’s our resident Marine. Justin, would you please enlighten Leon!
“Basing THIS election turnout on 2008 results is the problem.
Anyone who really believes the Democrats will have a D+7 advantage is smoking Whoopi’s dreadlocks.”
–Comment by Lake Claytor, Oct. 31 at 2:23 p.m.
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“Here is a PPP poll for North Carolina that says Romney and Obama are EVEN at 49% each.
Q21 If you are a Democrat, press 1. If a Republican,
press 2. If you are an independent or identify
with another party, press 3.
Democrat ……………………………………………….. 48%
Republican………………………………………………. 36%
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2011/PPP_Release_NC_1031.pdf
They are basing their poll on a D+12!
I just think that is hilarious.”
–Comment by Lake Claytor, Oct. 31, 4:31 p.m.
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Now here is what’s truly hilarious: The Democratic turnout was 6 points higher than Republicans (the pollsters’ model ranged from 5 to 7). In other words, they got it pretty much exactly right. I doubt that LC was smoking anybody’s dreadlocks. But SOMETHING obviously skewed his reality.
As for the NC poll by PPP, the final results in that race were WELL within the polls margin of error. In other words, LC found the poll hilariously skewed, and told us this about as arrogantly as possible.
But it was correct!
“How’s that Hopey-Changey thing working out for you?”
Pretty dang good thank you for asking.
“America has abandoned God. The vast majority of Democrats don’t attend church.”
I hate to break it to ya sweet cakes, but less than half of your GOP brothers and sisters are regular church goers. Plus, it’s those heathen independents you need to worry about. Indies attend church less than committed Democrats do.
“Forty-seven percent of Republicans attend church regularly, compared to 38 percent of Democrats and 29 percent of independents. And there’s a big difference between Catholic women (49 percent go to church weekly) and Catholic men (26 percent attend every week.”
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=90372&page=1#.UJ1kNOSaXCg
Now, here’s a real mission for you susie. How about you work on getting at least half of your GOP tribe to attend church. The world will be a better place. Plus it should keep you pretty dang busy and out of our hair.
Leon, you are incorrect. The military gave more money to the Obama campaign than to Romneys. A very large chunk of the military is made up of young minorities without a lot of money…. How dumb would they have to be to elect another rich white guy with no skin I’m the gane who’s just going to send them to another pointless Mideast war?
Don’t think it’s escaped the military that none of Mitts 5 strapping sons has ever put on a uniform. It hasn’t.
23.So let’s see, suzie wants us to believe that hubby will just close up his incredibly successful company (that is if there really is any company) instead of selling it for millions? Smart businessman.
The two terms are used synonymously, goober.
#42 Try making sense, suzie.
gdad & Sandi,
I was wrong. SuzieQ & hubby shouldn’t sell the business to the employees. Instead, they should call up their friends at Bain Capital and sell it to them. I hear Mitt is coming back to the company!!
I will agree that Romney was out of touch. He was talking about jobs and the unemployment rate and the deficit as if people cared. 0bama voters on the dole don’t give a crap. Do you think the people in the Melrose precinct who voted 0bama 880 to 13 gave a sh*t about the unemployment rate? . Many of them are fourth- and fifth generation welfare recipients. What do they care about the job situation?
It’s time to stop kidding ourselves about the real reason 0bama won big among blacks and hispanics. It’s called FREE STUFF. 0bama appeared in a commercial in Mexico with the Mexican leader telling people how to apply for food stamps in America. Do you think that sounds like a man who wants to cut the deficit and get people off the dole? Hell, no. 0bama KNOWS leeches vote Democrat, and his goal is to make more of them.
And you people enabled him to do that. You ought to feel like sh*t.
I am still liking both my hope and change very well thank you. I also appreciate the concern.
Yes Suzie, 60+ million Americans just prefer their “FREE STUFF”. No need to examine your meme or your candidate at all. You are truly a brain trust everyone should invest in, the returns are “stunning”.
I wish Liberal Ron’s big donors could read what he says about their businesses. Just as I wish the nuns he reports to could read his the way he trashes public figures who hold pro-life views.
Add single women to the list of those to blame for Romney’s loss.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2012/11/09/why_did_romney_lose_fox_news_blames_single_women.html
Suzie@6:47
And this is the woman? who complained about DanR using the word douche.
“I will agree that Romney was out of touch. He was talking about jobs and the unemployment rate and the deficit as if people cared. 0bama voters on the dole don’t give a crap. Do you think the people in the Melrose precinct who voted 0bama 880 to 13 gave a sh*t about the unemployment rate? . Many of them are fourth- and fifth generation welfare recipients. What do they care about the job situation?
It’s time to stop kidding ourselves about the real reason 0bama won big among blacks and hispanics. It’s called FREE STUFF.”
This complaint might come across as a little more sincere if Romney had been able to surpass the vote for McCain in 2008. But he didn’t. Romney got 2 million fewer votes than McCain. That’s a lot. So it’s just more BS, driven by envy that the Dems had a ground game and the vaunted Romney campaign didn’t.
Suzie,
Speaking of Ron’s donors, you and I had a friendly election wager on the outcome in Virginia. You lost, so you owe Ancilla College $20. I expect that you’ll send that, in a money order that won’t disclose your identity, to Ron. (You can buy the MO at pammala’s store or any other 7-Eleven).
Ron will post the address here, and he’ll let us know when he receives the MO).
Thank you.
48.I wish Liberal Ron’s big donors could read what he says about their businesses. Just as I wish the nuns he reports to could read his the way he trashes public figures who hold pro-life views.
Comment by Suzie — November 9, 2012 @ 7:03 pm
So what’s it going to be SuzieQ? Is hubby going to sell to his employees or contact Bain Capital?
Thanks for the reminder Dan about SuzieQ’s wager with you. Instead of sending it to my college, I ask that she send it to you and that it be donated to the Roanoke Valley Salvation Army efforts.
Ron May
Unfortunately I’m not a big donor. But let us know when you receive Suzie’s twenty bucks and I’ll match it. And challenge other bloggers here
to do the same.
Speaking of Ron’s donors, you and I had a friendly election wager on the outcome in Virginia. You lost, so you owe Ancilla College $20. I expect that you’ll send that, in a money order that won’t disclose your identity, to Ron. (You can buy the MO at pammala’s store or any other 7-Eleven).
Ron will post the address here, and he’ll let us know when he receives the MO).
Thank you.
Actually, I believe you weaseled out of our bet by inserting conditions later I wouldn’t agree to. Then later you denied we even had a bet.
But being the magnanimous person I will donate $100 to Right to Life of America in your name.
Ron May
I doubt if Bain capital wants to invest in another dumpster business.
single women to the list of those to blame for Romney’s loss.
Yep. Lots of those in the Melrose total looking for 0bama to fill the daddy role for their illegitimate kids. That’s another reason Democrats leaders are big on marriage or the traditional family. Votes. It’s all about keeping people needy and getting their votes.
Do you suppose the erstwhile ACORN workers at Melrose made up the 13 votes for Romney so it wouldn’t sound as ridiculous as 893 to 0? I mean, why even bother with the 13?
So wait in a minute Dan. Romney had 2 million less than McCain? But Obama beat McCain by about 7% and only beat Romney by 2 1/2 %?
Now I will readily concede that Obama’s campaign was better managed and orchestrated. After all, they were able to run a campaign that successfully kept the voter’s attention focused on the other guy instead of the actual issues. However, given that huge drop in margin of victory, doesn’t that mean Obama’s ground game lost a lot of ground this time around?
Unfortunately I’m not a big donor. But let us know when you receive Suzie’s twenty bucks and I’ll match it. And challenge other bloggers here to do the same.
Sure. I’ll second that. Anybody who wants to match Dan’s donation to Right to Life, please let us know.
Dan R., I am aware of the margin of victory. I am also aware that you haven’t lost your gift for purposely misleading the people on this blog. Yes, everything you said is true, but you picked some of the closest races in history as a basis for comparison. Can you dispute what I said. There have only been 9 or ten elections that were closer. The others had significantly larger margins of victory and the average margin is about 9.5%. To categorize this one as a blow out is just dishonest. 51% to 49% is a blowout? I guess you think Bush’s win over Kerry was a blowout too right? I mean this one had a margin of 2.5% and Bush beat Kerry by 2.46%. Surely you don’t think a difference of four one-hundredths of one percent represents the difference between a shellacking that indicates a mandate and a close race?
Obama’s win over McCain was a blowout. This one was not. It is obvious that the liberals are trying to convince themselves and everyone else that there is not still 49% of the country that disagrees with them.
Through the miracle of charity, if suz can prove her donation is actually legit her Andrew Jackson can magically morph into $60 courtesy of Dave and I.
Dan@35; Other John@36; Bill Purdue@37 and Krustan@41:
The military vote was suppressed despite legislation passed and signed by
BO to establish offices at each foreign post to facilitate the process.
The offices at about half of the posts were not established. In addition,
it is reported that a large number of ballots were “inadvertently” routed to Alaska and, thus, arrived too late to be counted? While not every such suppressed vote would have been for Romney, historically, such votes
tend to go conservative and, as you might be aware, the military is not necessarily real happy with the Clown in Chief…think Benghazi, Seal Team Six, slaying of Bin Laden…etc…etc. If counted these votes in total may not have swung the election to Romney; however, they may well have made a difference in some of the states elections and with the electoral college…we will never know. Krustan, votes and money are supposed to be two different things but, as you are a liberal, I understand your confusion.
As to the election outcome. It is what it is. IMO it’s bad for America.
I already see numerous companies laying people off, the stock market in virtual free fall, the UN Small Arms treaty endorsed by BO within hours of the election results, the head of the CIA suddenly resigning before the
Congressional testimony on Benghazi can be heard, reports of BO winning some counties in Ohio with 108% of the vote, and counties in Colorado with more registered voters than citizens.
Suzie’s welching. Is anyone surprised?
And I’ll also kick down a couple of extra ducats to buy Frank and DMatt some of those cool cheddar cheese hats so that they can also experience the joy magic of Christmas!
Dan@8:23
No surprises there. Also no honor , no integrity, and no honesty.
Suzie’s welching. Is anyone surprised?
Shall I post the quote where you said we didn’t have a bet, Dan? LOL.
Ancilla College is a Catholic nonprofit. It appears that Suze has decided not to support those any more as revenge for all the Catholics who voted for Obama. So she’s switching her donations to secular charities.
The military vote was not suppressed, Leon.
“Obama’s ground game lost a lot of ground this time around?”
And this matters because? It’s not like he’s going to do it again, or are you one of those third term nuts?
Re: Comment by Other John — November 9, 2012 @ 2:43 pm
Yup
Re: Comment by Kristen — November 9, 2012 @ 4:29 pm
Dbl Yup
Chuck,
I don’t recall calling this a blowout. I said it was a significant victory, and it was. 332 to 203 is pretty significant, don’t you think? In fact, it’s the clearest victory since 1996. And it’s a far broader margin than W. ever got. Assuming you believe George W. Bush earned the right to enact his agenda, then clearly Obama has, too.
Dan C, I think Leon fell for this nonsense. It’s from a satire site. I guess people on the right are so used to BS, they can’t tell it from reality, even when it’s meant to be funny.
Looks as if Suzie, the welcher, is true to her losing ways.
If you can’t afford to pay off, just acknowledge how wrong you were on so many points [ http://tinyurl.com/awmwyft ] and I’ll pay it for you.
Leon
And all these “reports” you cite are coming from where? Faux newd?
Glen Beck? Rush Limbaugh? American Crossroads? I don’t see one damn verification of any of those lies. As a matter of fact they all sound very much like the trash exstremists have been passing around the internet ad infinitum for the past four years. Don’t you have another birther one to send also. Surely you and the Donald or Orly Taitz can come up with something. You lost. Get over it and be an American for a change.
Re: Comment by dave — November 9, 2012 @ 7:46 pm
If Suzie, the weasel, pay off that bet with a donation to either the college or to the Salvation Army, I match it.
Suzie:
“It’s time to stop kidding ourselves about the real reason 0bama won big among blacks and hispanics. It’s called FREE STUFF….Do you think [he] sounds like a man who wants to cut the deficit and get people off the dole? Hell, no. 0bama KNOWS leeches vote Democrat, and his goal is to make more of them…And you people enabled him to do that.”
It’s not often, but when she speaks the truth, I’ll acknowledge it.
Sandi Saunders:
“Yes Suzie, 60+ million Americans just prefer their “FREE STUFF”.”
And then we have the people who really believe it’s free.
Dave@76. . .you mean you want me to be Zombie like you. . .no chance. All I have posted is widely available from a nunber of sources. . .as the
election results wrap up there are some “funny” numbers. If the result
stands as is. . .we all lost.
Dave Hicks:
“If Suzie, the weasel, pay off that bet with a donation to either the college or to the Salvation Army, I match it.”
As will I. If there is anything decent in Suzie, she’ll realize how much good she can do here. “If” is such a big word….
Listening to the wingnuts rationalize their butt-kicking borders on hilarity. Speaking of borders, here’s your directions to Canada. Courtesy Fox News.
Obviously this bears repeating as many of the lessons have been lost:
Thomas Jefferson to Edward Carrington
16 Jan. 1787 Papers 11:48–49
“The tumults in America I expected would have produced in Europe an unfavorable opinion of our political state. But it has not. On the contrary, the small effect of those tumults seems to have given more confidence in the firmness of our governments. The interposition of the people themselves on the side of government has had a great effect on the opinion here. I am persuaded myself that the good sense of the people will always be found to be the best army. They may be led astray for a moment, but will soon correct themselves. The people are the only censors of their governors: and even their errors will tend to keep these to the true principles of their institution. To punish these errors too severely would be to suppress the only safeguard of the public liberty. The way to prevent these irregular interpositions of the people is to give them full information of their affairs thro’ the channel of the public papers, and to contrive that those papers should penetrate the whole mass of the people. The basis of our governments being the opinion of the people, the very first object should be to keep that right; and were it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers, or newspapers without a government, I should not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter. But I should mean that every man should receive those papers and be capable of reading them. I am convinced that those societies (as the Indians) which live without government enjoy in their general mass an infinitely greater degree of happiness than those who live under European governments. Among the former, public opinion is in the place of law, and restrains morals as powerfully as laws ever did any where. Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep. I do not exaggerate. This is a true picture of Europe. Cherish therefore the spirit of our people, and keep alive their attention. Do not be too severe upon their errors, but reclaim them by enlightening them. If once they become inattentive to the public affairs, you and I, and Congress, and Assemblies, judges and governors shall all become wolves. It seems to be the law of our general nature, in spite of individual exceptions; and experience declares that man is the only animal which devours his own kind, for I can apply no milder term to the governments of Europe, and to the general prey of the rich on the poor.“
John Wilburn, I will remind you again that the sickening entity called Suzie, hides and releases her racist bile from the safety of anonymity. You sir, have chosen to forfeit that safety. It would behoove a grown damn man, who should know better, not to call “the truth“, her vicious and racist lie that “blacks and hispanics” are “leeches” even if they did “vote Democrat”.
Minorities often do the shit jobs that “white people” think they are too good for and there are no harder workers in this nation than those in the Hispanic community.
Her hate, bile, racism and flat our ignorance is a given, WTF is your excuse?
Leon, you just lost an election because those right wing media sources lied to and about you. Can you even buy a clue?
“Yes Suzie, 60+ million Americans just prefer their “FREE STUFF”.”
Yeah, we got the 47% freeloaders who don’t contribute, plus another 3.5% morons who enable them. Not sure which you are, peach.
Sandi Saunders:
“Her hate, bile, racism and flat our ignorance is a given, WTF is your excuse?”
She’s not often right, but that particular comment in it’s OVERALL context is correct. I know you like to pull the most un-PC element out of it to demonize it, but it’s not wrong.
I’ve said before that Obama bought a lot of votes in 2008 and I was right that he bought enough in 2012 to win.
If Suzie, the weasel, pay off that bet with a donation to either the college or to the Salvation Army, I match it.
Ancilla is apparently a fake Catholic college if Liberal Ron is its president. That guy is about as anti-Catholic as you can get. So I am glad to hear Dave Hicks is going to match my gift in Dan’s name to Right to Life of America. The worthiest of causes. Fighting for human life. Sounds like John Wilburn is on board, too.
Sandi Saunder quoting Jefferson:
“…To punish these errors [in the common sense of the people] too severely would be to suppress the only safeguard of the public liberty…”
I’m surprised that a lefty authoritarian like you would post this. He was warning of the Bloomberg types, whose brand of government you want, back then.
her vicious and racist lie that “blacks and hispanics” are “leeches” even if they did “vote Democrat”.
Just the ones who vote Democrat for the goodies, hon. They’re the leeches and you’re the enabler. Unless you’re a leech, too.
Suze,
Surely by now you’ve concluded this country doesn’t deserve you and hubby. Why don’t you simply leave?
Listening to the wingnuts rationalize their butt-kicking borders on hilarity. Speaking of borders, here’s your directions to Canada. Courtesy Fox News.
I wish to God, we could cut the country in half. Liberals could live in the eastern half. Conservatives could start a new country in the western half. I would move in a heartbeat.
The problem is, both countries would need a fence. We’d need ours to keep your people out, and you’d need one to keep your people in.
Sandi:
“Minorities often do the shit jobs that “white people” think they are too good for and there are no harder workers in this nation than those in the Hispanic community.”
For most folks this is true, but we both know it shouldn’t be this way. I say we should pull up the saftey net for all but the very most extreme cases. When we kick out the illegals by disallowing their benefits, we also kick the lazy white people off of welfare and let them honorably work side-by-side with the LEGAL Hispanics. There’s no excuse for those white people who think they’re too good to work that hard.
Suzie:
“So I am glad to hear Dave Hicks is going to match my gift in Dan’s name to Right to Life of America….Sounds like John Wilburn is on board, too.”
Once there’s a shed of proof that you’ve actually made it……
Dan:
89.”Suze,
Surely by now you’ve concluded this country doesn’t deserve you and hubby. Why don’t you simply leave?”
As much as she talks and considering her level of empathy, you’d think her logical, ideal business venture would be owning a sweatmill in good ol’ Zimbabwe.
Re: Comment by Suzie — November 9, 2012 @ 10:59 pm
Looks as if Suzie has added failing to read to her list of well documented failures.
I said “If Suzie, the weasel, pay off that bet with a donation to either the college or to the Salvation Army, I match it. {emphasis added for Suzie’s sake]” I did not say anything about an alleged, non-documented contribution to an advocacy group of her choice.
The list of her failures just keeps growing.
And now you all see why I’d never bet with suzie. She won’t pay off and we know it.
Suzie:
“I wish to God, we could cut the country in half. Liberals could live in the eastern half. Conservatives could start a new country in the western half. I would move in a heartbeat.”
You have to be the change you want to see. Just sayin’.
Will there be a secular part of the western half? I could almost go for it too, but can’t have the televangelists making my laws. By the way, you wouldn’t need a fence to keep the crime out of the western half; the other half would be “gun free” and therefore the criminal’s choice.
“I was right that he bought enough in 2012 to win.”
John, I realize you’re having trouble with Tuesday, but don’t go all Fox on us. Mkay?
“We’d need ours to keep your people out, and you’d need one to keep your people in.”
Example: Florida
Simply leave would be my current vote.
And as far as fences..there are none yet…get where you
need to be ..and build one.
Screwzie’s old man should just sell the shop to pammalapdog. Problem solved.
I’m having no “trouble” with Tuesday, Art Hill. It’s disappointing, but hardly unexpected. Please don’t pretend that he didn’t buy votes with taxpayer-funded benefits. It was a two-time successful strategy.
I am firmly convinced that there is not and NEVER will be enough fiscal responsibility to preserve the lifestyle we all love and just wonder, realistically, how long it will take for that to come unglued. That huge looming debt isn’t going anywhere and will have tangible repercussions ONLY when the welfare checks quit rolling and it gets ugly.
When is that going to be? That’s the question. Are we going to get to $20T. I had guessed it would climb to $18T, then level-off, but I don’t think $20 trillion is out of the question. The feds are soon going to have to bail California out. California will be like one non-gainfully employed guy who can’t make the bills with a $50,000 credit card debt and a $50,000 limit who just now realizes he has a problem and is getting help from his “rich” relative, the USA, who is also non-gainfully employed and can’t make the bills, but has a $95,000 credit card debt with a $100,000 limit. That $5,000 will create a short-term illusion of prosperity.
One day, the bills are going to be due and later we address it, the fewer options we’re going to have. Not that Mitt was going to make a serious priority of fixing it, but Obama has no interest in curbing this problem. It’s like he WANTS to drive us into bankrupcy.
so nice of dear leader to go to ny/nj for 5 whole minutes to get his blow, then flies of to his homeland indonesia, now that is looking out for our country..man what a boy!
nope, pammala is selling businesses now because of bammy scare death care plan..people will lose jobs from me too dearie, cause YOU voted for an ass hole..not to worry, all my bases are covered and my money is well hidden from osama al obama
“Please don’t pretend that he didn’t buy votes with taxpayer-funded benefits. It was a two-time successful strategy.”
JW, you are suggesting GWB “bought” Obama votes last time with taxpayer-funded benefits. That doesn’t make a lot of sense.
And now you all see why I’d never bet with suzie. She won’t pay off and we know it.
Dan changed the terms of the bets afterward, Gdad. He weaseled himself and the others out of it when it appeared they would lose.
I am paying $100 in Dan’s name to Right to Life. But to go the extra mile and show you how reasonable I can be, I will donate $100 each for the two others that originally bet me, even though we all know damn well they wouldn’t have paid had Romney won the state.
Happy now?
Will there be a secular part of the western half? I could almost go for it too, but can’t have the televangelists making my laws. By the way, you wouldn’t need a fence to keep the crime out of the western half; the other half would be “gun free” and therefore the criminal’s choice.
The new country would be based on God and Christianity, weak central government, no federal income tax, God in the schools, no shackles on businesses, and lots of personal responsibility. Only contributors are allowed to vote. We could have a Constitution that would protect all those rights. Heaven on earth.
Sound familiar? This was done in 1776. The selfish have infiltrated, ignored the Constitution, until we are in the state of ruin as we are today.
You can have your firearms, John W. You don’t have to go to church, but you’d better not try to force people to embrace your godlessless.
“The new country would be based on God and Christianity, weak central government, no federal income tax, God in the schools, no shackles on businesses, and lots of personal responsibility. Only contributors are allowed to vote. We could have a Constitution that would protect all those rights. Heaven on earth.
Sound familiar? This was done in 1776. The selfish have infiltrated, ignored the Constitution, until we are in the state of ruin as we are today.”
. . .and by the way, those selfish women wouldn’t be able to vote, those selfish slaves would not be free and those selfish labor unions would be outlawed (Adam Smith be damned).
Suze, you don’t need half this nation for such a “country.” Norman Cay in the Caribbean, Bikini atoll in the Pacific, or pretty much any rock that’s exposed at low tide will do.
Women could vote as long as they were in a contributing household. Cohabitation would be disallowed, just as it was in the early years of our country. Divorce would be extremely difficult. People would be fighting to get into this new country, just like they used to try to get into America.
Re: Comment by John Wilburn — November 9, 2012 @ 11:19 pm
As much as she talks and considering her level of empathy, you’d think her logical, ideal business venture would be owning a sweatmill in good ol’ Zimbabwe.
—————–
Well done John W
If, and I say IF, there really are trips (as apposed to her being incarcerated somewhere) then setting up a sweatshop in good ol’ Zimbabwe seems far, far more likely.
Re: Comment by Suzie — November 10, 2012 @ 8:51 am
Documentation??????
#105 suz,
“I am paying $100 in Dan’s name to Right to Life. But to go the extra mile and show you how reasonable I can be, I will donate $100 each for the two others that originally bet me, even though we all know damn well they wouldn’t have paid had Romney won the state.
Happy now?”
Comment by Suzie — November 10, 2012 @ 8:51 am
I’ll be happy when you actually prove that you’ve followed through with one of your baseless claims for once. Just do us a favor and show us some sort of proof; you have such an illustrious history of lying on this blog, and I think that the one gift that I could give you this Holiday season would be the opportunity to not lie about charitable giving like you always do. A $300 receipt for tax purposes with your name blacked out would work fine. Just produce an official receipt from Right to Life for a $300 donation dated on or after today so I don’t have to call you a heartless liar all Holiday season. So go ahead and write that check, suz. Do it for baby Jesus and all the unborn children this Holiday season, and do it to shut me the hell up.
scared of God are ya danny, you SHOULD BE
Will you be moving to a tropical island too, Pammala? Maybe you, Suzie and hubby, could all go together and buy an island somewhere. Start your own little country. Call it Suzielama or Pammaluzie.
“Will you be moving to a tropical island too, Pammala? Maybe you, Suzie and hubby, could all go together and buy an island somewhere. Start your own little country. Call it Suzielama or Pammaluzie.”
Yeah, you can sell slurpees and big bites to Suze/hubby, pammala!
Maybe it shouldn’t be a tropical island, though. Maybe it should be a little cooler, w/all the global warming that’s happening. I’m thinking off the coast of Greenland.
Re: Comment by Dan Casey — November 10, 2012 @ 8:47 am
Not only that, Dan, but I think that they are chagrined that they failed to buy the election to maintain or expand the taxpayer-funded benefits enjoyed by the 1%’s.
See my comment (#36) at http://tinyurl.com/ahqyueb
The idea that there is a possibility of sanity returning to the tax code is what is blowing their mind.
The very idea that Boehner said he is opposed to raising tax rates, abandoning the TP’s, Karl Rove’s, Charles Koch’s, etc’s mantra of no increase in taxes or Tax Revenue has got them in a panic.
IMHO, we may be on the verge of eliminating some of tax expenditure programs (spending through the tax code, e.g., exemptions, deductions, credits or other loopholes to select groups or specific activities). I hope they also go after all the offshore tax haven money.
BTW, I know that some States of the US have reciprocity agreements with other States that require equalization of income tax for folk living in one State but working in another. Some States have laws that do the same for local governments. For example, in PA if you live in one local jurisdiction (say Delaware County) but work in another (say Philly) you pay Delaware County first. However, as their tax rate is less than Philly, you pay the difference between Delaware County’s and Philly’s rates to Philly. I wonder how a treaty like that would work. Think that if Suzie sets up a sweatshop in good ol’ Zimbabwe but continued to live here, she would owe US and Va income taxes equal to the difference between the US and Va income tax rates and the Zimbabwe rate.
Suzie… Hypocrite much?
“You can have your firearms, John W. You don’t have to go to church, but you’d better not try to force people to embrace your godlessless.”
Then you go on to say…
“Women could vote as long as they were in a contributing household. Cohabitation would be disallowed, just as it was in the early years of our country. Divorce would be extremely difficult. People would be fighting to get into this new country, just like they used to try to get into America.”
I do not think any self-respecting person would want to get into this restrictive and illogical country. This country would consist of you, your oppressive husband, and Pat Robertson. You don’t need a whole side of a country for that. Just stay in your basement and hope that we don’t find out about you mail ordering porn. I think it is funny you tell someone to keep their secularist ideas to themselves, but you and your fellow conservatives use your religion to scare people into following the corrupt agendas of the repubs/tea party. How about you keep your superstition to yourself. You seem to use your superstition as a line of reasoning every chance you get. A very immoral superstition I might add. Your statement above is the reason why religions should stay out of our government. It is oppressive, and outdated… please take it with you on your way out of our free country. No need for a dictatorship here.
The fact is this, Suzie; Religion is like a penis, it is OK to have one, you should keep it to yourself, and please! Do not try to shove it down my throat!
Suzie:
108.”Women could vote as long as they were in a contributing household.”
Can’t neglect those that “made it” the same way you did by marrying the boss, huh?
Suzie, instead of making divorce difficult and gay marriage impossible, just don’t have ANY government-recognized marriage. Let love keep people together….plain and simple.
Oh, and I like how your religious RW authoritarian government will graciously give me a pass on going to church so long as I keep my “godlessness” to myself. Screw your version of utopia. Tell us, how close were you to going to Jonesville? Was it the plane fare that kept you from going?
Justin True:
“Religion is like a penis”
Just when I’d like to think mine has done some good for somebody….
John Wilburn,
Your religion, or your penis?
I think we could find the perfect place for most ill-informed/Elly May Clampett/Suzie to spend the rest of her days…
Afghanistan with the Taliban all religion all day…
This video is one of many thousands of stupid things that roll forth from P Robs Eucharist dumpster.
I could see Afghanistan in their future for sure!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=6ZW5HzxvuhA
“don’t pretend that he didn’t buy votes with taxpayer-funded benefits.”
What about George W. Bush, did he “buy” votes from all the folks on the dole during his administration? Did Clinton? Why is the deficit suddenly such a huge problem? Didn’t Richard Bruce Cheney say “Ronald Reagan proved deficits don’t matter” while putting two wars on America’s credit card and keeping them off the books? Why blame Obama for putting the true costs back on the ledger?
“pammala says:
nope, pammala is selling businesses now because of bammy scare death care plan..people will lose jobs from me too dearie, cause YOU voted for an ass hole..not to worry, all my bases are covered and my money is well hidden from osama al obama
Posted on November 10th, 2012″
Let’s pretend for a few minutes that pammalapdog really is an owner-operator of a 7-11 franchise. If she sells it (she can’t simply close it down; she doesn’t own it, she only owns the rights to operate under the corporate umbrella and any potential buyer has to be approved by the corporation), who will really be out of work? Half a dozen of her family members?
If my voting for President Obama causes some hassle for pammalapdog and her inbred kin, then I’m very satisfied it was a vote worth casting. Same goes for Screwzie and her old man’s business.
And btw, pammalapdog, that $40 you stashed in your sock drawer doesn’t really count as ‘hidden money’.
Also, pammalapdog, when you and your unemployed kinfolk all get their Obamaphones, you can thank us liberals.
Screw your version of utopia
You can stay right here in Liberalville then John W. Your choice.
“Suzie says:
Screw your version of utopia
You can stay right here in Liberalville then John W. Your choice.
Posted on November 10th, 2012″
John, she forgot to say, “Nyah! So there!” and stamp her foot.
How hilarious is it that she responded to you as if Conamerica and Liberalville were going to really happen?
Suzie:
“You can stay right here in Liberalville then John W. Your choice.”
Oh no! I didn’t lose my invitation to move to your new counrty did I? Oh please Miss Suzie, protect me with your fundie government. The irony is that you do live in liberalville; this blog is your whole life.
How hilarious is it that she responded to you as if Conamerica and Liberalville were going to really happen?
If you notice, the smart achievers never stick around to get bilked for too long. We find ways around it. And if it gets too bad, we leave for a better place. When we do that, you know you and your ilk are screwed. Castro’s Cuba comes to mind.
John Wilburn, please don’t pretend that Romney “didn’t buy votes with taxpayer-funded benefits” either! What you folks never want to admit is that it is done on BOTH sides.
The Vegas billionaire, the Koch brothers and Wall Street brethren “expected” to get nothing if Romney had won? Do you really believe it was only some poor schmuck who went into that booth hoping to get something “for free”? That only liberals worked for their candidate to gain their agenda? Who is it you are trying to convince? The rest of us know better.
I will tell you “who” started the free cell phones, it was the cell phone companies and the people who stood to make money on “customers” they did not have. Just like a hell of a lot of other government money that goes to big business, but of course you will not admit that truth.
Do you think all the old people in the world decided we all needed a freakin’ “Scooter” to “Hoveround” too?
Do you believe it was the American public who crafted Gramm-Leach-Bliley to let the banksters play an even more loaded game and “give” a mortgage to people with a pulse? Do you really?
You and Suzie and pammala look at the rot and filth and greed in your own party and the CEO with a corporate jet WE PAID FOR, before you keep screeching about the poor folks with a cell phone.
126.Suzie:
“You can stay right here in Liberalville then John W. Your choice.”
Oh no! I didn’t lose my invitation to move to your new counrty did I? Oh please Miss Suzie, protect me with your fundie government. The irony is that you do live in liberalville; this blog is your whole life.
Comment by John Wilburn — November 10, 2012 @ 7:23 pm
JW,
My interpretation of what you said is “Frankly my dear, I don’t give a damn.” Just guessing…
“You can stay right here in Liberalville then John W. Your choice.”
Oh no! I didn’t lose my invitation to move to your new counrty did I? Oh please Miss Suzie, protect me with your fundie government.
You sure are hyperventilating, John W. All I said is if you’re happy in Liberalville, feel free to remain. If you think all your freedoms are secure under the godless leadership, then shut up and stay put. Just don’t bitch when they start building walls to keep you from leaving.
most ill-informed/Elly May Clampett/Suzie posted “The new country would be based on God and Christianity, weak central government, no federal income tax, God in the schools, no shackles on businesses, and lots of personal responsibility. Only contributors are allowed to vote. We could have a Constitution that would protect all those rights. Heaven on earth.”
Comment by Suzie — November 10, 2012 @ 9:06 am
I got it! Somalia…get packing…although I believe the above poster already lives in her own world of Stupidstan….it’s where losers live – no rational people nor thinking allowed.
“nope, pammala is selling businesses now because of bammy scare death care plan..people will lose jobs from me too dearie, cause YOU voted for an ass hole..not to worry, all my bases are covered and my money is well hidden from osama”
I missed this gem. Is there any other blog with so many pissy captains of industry? I look to see the Roanoke economy come crashing down, what with “Suzie” and her “hubby” AND pammalalala all selling off their positions and leaving the valley flat.
11
Somali has a Christian government?
Shrillary is just angry because people would try to flee Liberalville and come to Conservamerica.
Masn, I missed that pammalamadingdong was selling her Tupperware business.
So now, let’s see, pammie says that if she sells her business, jobs will be lost. Does that mean that pammie is overstaffing? Sounds like bad business to me.
It is true that Suzie, pammala, Frank et al represent business precisely as well as they do conservatives…not well at all. But I sure appreciate it. If you have to troll here, you at least cooperate by making yourselves and your peers look worse than we ever could.
If pammie SOLD her 7-Eleven, the new owner would probably still employ her clerks.
So if her employees are actually going to suffer, it sounds like pammie is instead CLOSING her store, out of spite that Obama won. Good luck with that, pammie. You’re gonna hurt yourself more than your workers; they can find jobs. Retail work is not that hard to come by.
Boo hoo.
Why should I care if Screwzie’s old man and pammalapdog close up shop? Why should I care more about their employees than they do?
Suzie is the quintessential hypocritical Christian… she uses her god as every excuse to stand against Obama, her elected leader. But what does her book of instructions tell her to do?
(Romans 13:1-6) Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. 2 Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. 3 For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and you will be commended. 4 For the one in authority is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for rulers do not bear the sword for no reason. They are God’s servants, agents of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. 5 Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also as a matter of conscience.
6 This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God’s servants, who give their full time to governing. 7 Give to everyone what you owe them: If you owe taxes, pay taxes; if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor.
And if Suzie really is a woman… (1 Timothy 2:11-15
11 A woman[a] should learn in quietness and full submission. 12 I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man;[b] she must be quiet. 13 For Adam was formed first, then Eve. 14 And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner. 15 But women[c] will be saved through childbearing—if they continue in faith, love and holiness with propriety.
I think Suzie should respect her superstition as much as she claims she does…
Oh wow. Justin True. That means the priests who said Mass in secret in the USSR and Nazi Germany weren’t obeying the lord.
When you have an evil oppressive diabolic regime like 0bama’s which seeks to crush Catholics, you are encouraged, even required to disobey.
“When you have an evil oppressive diabolic regime like 0bama’s which seeks to crush Catholics, you are encouraged, even required to disobey.”
Comment by Suzie — November 12, 2012 @ 6:32 pm
And the crazy paranoid just gets more crazy and more paranoid…
From Justin True @10:13 AM
But women[c] will be saved through childbearing—if they continue in faith, love and holiness with propriety.
Ah! Now I think I understand Suzie’s problem!
Justin,
Just let Suzie go. She is doing more to expose religion than you will ever be able to. When the Johovah’s Witnesses can’t give away 40 acres, the Muslins can’t give away 70 virgins, and the Baptists can’t give away streets of gold, it’s pretty clear that religion in general is rightfully finding its way into the file with the chain letters and investment opportunities in Nigeria.
Damn… someone needs to learn history from someone other than, Deacon Bubba.
Suzie spat forth: “Oh wow. Justin True. That means the priests who said Mass in secret in the USSR and Nazi Germany weren’t obeying the lord.”
Well, Suzie, that wouldn’t be the first time a priest disobeyed his lord. Just ask Catholic children… No child’s behind left.
The Priests didn’t have to say mass in secret in Nazi Germany, hell they wrote the play book and had the full support of the regime while Hitler went about acting upon Christian Bigotry.
Sure it has been sanitized and the victor of the war re-wrote the reason for the extermination. We have been urged to forget 1000 years of rabid antisemitism of the European Christians.