An antidote for ‘dead deer porn’
Mark Taylor, the newspaper’s outdoors columnist, is hauling in the hits these days with amateur hunting pornography, aka dead deer pix. Now that we’ve entered the deer-hunting season, those pics are very popular.
Because live deer are better than dead ones any day, here is the antidote: a gallery of beautiful living, breathing, clear-eyed deer, from around the world, most of them captured in nature. I put this together last fall and it was quite popular.
Scroll past the shot of the stunning creature below and click on Next to start the tour. In all, there are 13 photos including this one. Please leave any comments here. (The first 155 comments are from the past two years).
Enjoy, folks!
Whitetail in Raleigh, N.C. | Clay Heaton | Wikimedia Commons
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November 26, 2012 - 1:00 PM
“Because live deer are better than dead ones any day,”
You obviously don’t have a garden.
This reminds me of a conversation I had a few years back with a lady at a party.
She was telling me that the signs that were put on the roads to warn of a deer crossing ahead were put there to protect the deer.
I had to explain that, no, they were put there to protect vehicles and drivers.
If the signs were intended to protect the deer, they would be facing the woods and would have a picture of a vehicle on them.
I saw a hunting show where a guy had just shot a big buck in Colorado. He was so giddy, he was acting like he won the seventh game of the World Series, laughing, crying tears of joy, hugging everybody.
I have nothing against hunting, but I don’t understand that type of reaction. Must be a man thing.
I find the sight of a child huddled over a dead animal very awkward – I don’t care if it’s a “sport”.
This sweetie is beautiful….let’s hear it for live deer.
Great response, Bob H!
There’s another piece of hypocrisy from the left. All those libs who crucified Michael Vick–they’d better not be eating meant of ANY kind.
Gosh Suzie…I guess I’ll have to knock schnauzer off my Thanksgiving menu now. Dammit.
#6, There’s a wee bit of difference in torturing dogs into fighting and killing deer to eat. If brown-eyes can’t see the difference, she’s mentally ill.
According to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration there are about 1.5 million car accidents with deer each year. The insurance claims arising from these accidents exceeds $1 billion and include more than 10,000 personal injuries and 150 to 175 deaths of humans each year. Most of those accidents occur between October and December each year. I’m not a hunter, but understand the need to cull the herd periodically.
By the way Henry, I have a small garden as well as bird feeders. I had problems with deer until a friend suggested sprinkling human hair around the edge of my garden and around my bird feeders. During my monthly trip to the barbershop, my barber gives me a good size bag of hair clippings which I use to keep the deer away. I don’t know why it works, but I haven’t had a problem with deer since.
LOL Kristen. No weiner-dogs, no schnauzerkraut, no collie greens…
“There’s another piece of hypocrisy from the left. All those libs who crucified Michael Vick–they’d better not be eating meant of ANY kind.”
Drinking before noon is the sign of a problem. Get some help.
Mark…funny!
#6 Suzie drifts further into the land of the nonsensical.
@ #3 I finally agree with Suzie… what is with that? Men don’t act that happy on their wedding day!
I see deer in my back yard every day. They are beautiful, graceful animals but I admit I wasn’t very happy when, shortly after my row of giant sunflowers grew to a height of about 6 inches, the deer ate them to the ground. I should have known better.
@6…
“There’s another piece of hypocrisy from the left. All those libs who crucified Michael Vick–they’d better not be eating meant of ANY kind.”
Huh?? How does someone who is against dogfighting and the abuse, torture and slaughter of domesticated animals become a hypocrite if they’re not a vegetarian? Even if they are a liberal, that doesn’t really compute.
So do you have some sort of problem with those that continue to dislike Vick for being dogfighting scum? I think that the owners of whatever football team he plays for should probably electrocute him if he doesn’t perform, maybe pull all his teeth and make him a bait quarterback. I’m hopeful that he figured out just what a rape stand was all about in prison too.
I’ve never shot a deer or gone hunting, but I enjoy venison. I have shot and killed several nuisance animals, with no compunction. If need be, I could go hunting and kill a deer. Dressing it would be a different story, I’ve never done that…would leave that to someone who knew what they were doing.
Most animals are best enjoyed over a bed of charcoal with hickory chips, a side of potatoes, and an ice cold beer.
Henry has a solid point, even as Dan finds another way to whine about the use of guns. I live in town limits in a fully established subdivision. We have deer that wander through and eat almost all the flowers that we plant. Hostas? Gone every year. Roses? They even eat them. Vegetable garden? Don’t get me started. My crabapple trees? No fruit left, they eat it all. I can’t shoot them, since I’m inside town limits. I’ve tried hundreds of dollars worth of wolf urine & every other type of ‘deer proof’ repellant. None work. Dan thinks seagulls are flying rats? I think deer can be just as bothersome as groundhogs and raccoons.
As to Dan’s sentimentality for those pretty creatures? Yes, deer are wonderful to watch in fields and at the edge of the woods. Just as snow is lovely to watch as it cascades down, forming a blanket on everything. Snow is also a pain when it causes your electricity to go out in January, and you fear for your survival as a result. Deer are a nuisance when they destroy your efforts at creating your environment.
Deer are just as noteworthy when mounted on the wall as when grazing in a field. They also provide a very low cost source of food for families, as well. Posting snide comments about deer hunters and blogs of deer hunters is a typical Dan Casey way of being a condescending jerk. Dan, stay within your liberal enclave and out of the lives of the good people of SW Va who enjoy hunting and the culture it provides. Don’t your bosses at the RT have another promo column for you to write about their Taubman masterpiece?
So let me get this straight:
I celebrate living, breathing, useful deer and that gets twisted into a knee-jerk, and absolutely false, suggestion that I’ve created an anti-hunting rant.
That’s just not true, abdnva. You’re over the top.
They look especially gorgeous to a coyote
“Deer are just as noteworthy when mounted on the wall as when grazing in a field”
The appeal of dead animal heads on the wall escapes me, I admit. The argument about meat and the need to decreased the herds to lessen starvation have merit, but to claim that a stuffed deer head on the wall is just as lovely a doe and fawn wandering through the forest, alive and well, is odd.
Each and every year around this time when guys get together and yes it seems to be just guys the subject of hunting comes up. Where are you going hunting? When they come around to me I just ask them if they have ever seen the film, Bambi? The looks I get is makes one wish I had a camera.
Well I agree with you, Dan. If the deer weren’t living and breathing for a while, they wouldn’t be very useful for eating later on.
Dan,
You just never know what’s going to happen when you open Pandora’s box.
A t-shirt I saw someone wearing recently:
“There is a special place for all of God’s creatures….right beside the mashed potatoes.”
PETA-people eating tasty animals! Dan, add some red wine to your recipe when you cook it and mmmmm,mmmmmm! Cook with it Dan, not drink it!
Dan when you retract the ‘amateur hunting pornography’ claim I might believe you. Maybe. Until then, you’re just another condescending liberal who fails to understand the culture of hunting and uses snide attempts to smear those who do enjoy it.
Prance away from the pornography title all you wish. You’re afraid to address that, because you know that was your original intention – to broadslab hunters and those who enjoy hunting with a negative stereotype. You’re just too weak to admit it now that you’ve been called out about it.
Same old Casey, same old blindered shill…
I’m pretty sure all creatures look better alive than dead. Except maybe spiders.
#17 Small chip on the shoulder there, abdnva? You’re way out in left field on this one.
a typical Dan Casey way of being a condescending jerk – Priceless!
#20 Kristen, maybe at abdnva’s house they have a way to animate the heads and then it seems almost as if they’re alive.
#29 Yea, Gary M, you would think that one was some sort of literary gem.
I wonder if abdnva has one of those $10 flopping, singing bass mounted on his wall. Do they make a version for deer?
#32 Why, yes they do, Dan!!
http://www.baronbob.com/buck.htm
#33 Dang it, I spoke too soon. Buck has been discontinued. You have to settle for Desktop Buck now:
http://www.baronbob.com/buck-singingdeerhead-mini.htm
Hey everybody — maybe we should all chip in and buy andnva a Buck the Singing Talking Deer.
“BUCK has been discontinued. Sorry. (tear)”
I guess no one could squeeze out the $139.95 plus UPS Ground Only fee because of the economy. This website also sells “Weener Kleener Soap”. No joke check out “Funny Men’s Gifts”.
It seems that they are targeting a certain market of low IQ customers.
I’m sure Palin has it bookmarked.
Dan, I knew you’d be too gutless to answer that question. You lob your little jabs and your snide comments, then you run to tangents because you’re still the weak kneed lib, afraid to address the ‘amateur hunting pornography’ smear of your fellow RT employee. Such condescension, with no spine to answer your smear. You throw the label out, but now you’re afraid to discuss it.
I guess your daddies at the RT will have you dancing another Taubman jig pretty soon, too, won’t they? After all, got to please the money folks, they’re all that’s keeping the paper alive. Keep tap dancing, Dan, maybe you’ll save your job a little longer. Hit me with all the fishin’ & huntin’ jokes you want – you’re the one who’s afraid to stand behind your words.
You can be in favor of humane treatment of animals, and not be a vegetarian. And this story comes under the category of neither.
abdnva,
Did it occur to you that possibly Mark Taylor finds the “amateur hunting pornography” comment humorous, and you are the only one who is taking offense?
Damn. Does this mean I have to stop calling it “ruins porn” when I take pictures of abandoned structures in Detroit?
Personally I’ve never felt the urge to hunt or to kill animals. I guess there must be within us, possibly predominantly in males, some sort of hunting instinct that I and a bunch of other guys I know simply don’t have. If a person wants to hunt, that is certainly his or her choice. I do know some, I say some, hunting advocates who use the rationale that there is an over population of deer and hunters must cull them. That’s fine if that is the legitimate reason for the hunting. But if the same hunter goes out and kills ducks and squirrels and turkey and quail, I wonder what rationale is employed there. I’ve not heard yet of an over abundance of birds and squirrels. And I don’t buy the “excitement of the hunt” argument. You kill a squirrel, you should eat it.
Having rambled on about that, I now realize I too am guilty of killing animals. I guess I just don’t see fishing in the same light, but over the years I have caught and eaten many a fish (and released a few). I probably rank as one of the worst fishermen ever, but I’ve done it enough that I’ve caught a bunch. Even my wife, who scoffs at hunting, has no qualms about fishing. Weird, I admit…
“The appeal of dead animal heads on the wall escapes me, I admit.”
I also have never understood why the standard way to pose for a photo with the deer you just killed is to hold it’s head upright by the antlers as if to pretend it’s still alive.
Bill Hudson,
I hope you are kidding. Bambi was a cartoon and a fictional work as well.
BTW, the “family” unit portrayed in Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer is also pure fantasy. Deer do not have family units.
Dan,
Do you also consider shows where they show wildlife consuming other wildlife to be pornography as well?
Lindsey, I agree about the spiders, but I think you’ve forgotten about flies, cockroaches, mice, rats, scorpions, and snakes in that category, among many others. For that matter, anything that brushes up against your leg while you’re standing in the ocean.
Adbnva, So you get the idea that the use of the word “pornography” is code for what people get off on aka what floats your boat aka lifting your luggage…
But somehow your offend by the word, and by Dan not addressing you about it when it was just a nice play on word. Should he have wrote here are pictures of dead deer shot by hunters? But by saying “Amateur Hunting Pornography” that’s a crazy left wing slap in the face. Your just trying to kick up some muck, right?
Don’t forget the Supreme Court said I can’t define pornography I just know when I see it. Maybe Dan saw it and you don’t.
I also have never understood why the standard way to pose for a photo with the deer you just killed is to hold it’s head upright by the antlers as if to pretend it’s still alive.
Comment by VT Hokie — November 16, 2010 @ 3:53 pm
Yes, and weirdly the deer’s eyes are usually open, and they appear to be cooperating with the whole thing.
Maybe the term “Animal snuff film” would be preferable to “porn” here.
#43 Well not only was I kidding here but in real life I did say that once and the looks was as funny as hell. My point might be in trying to put some humor in here. Dan post picture of a deer and somehow it gets turned into lord knows what.
But I would have to agree with # 45, that some here just want to kick up some dust.
Agreed on that point, Ab. And like venison, I have eaten one of those creatures, as well. Snake!
Man, I’d hate to wake up in the morning and find that I’d somehow turned into abdnva. Wow. I can’t see how anyone with that much bile stored up can even put their shoes on.
Maybe abdnva needs to stand some shallow Chesapeake Bay water full of crabs.
I actually don’t like the term “amateur hunting pornography.” Sounds too much like one of those cheesy calendars with women in tiny camo bikinis.
The term sometimes used among those of us who push this “smut” is “deer porn.” And, I assure you, it is a term of endearment.
Signed, a “certain blogger” whose blog, thanks to dead deer pictures, is about to displace a certain blog of rants and raves as the top blog on Roanoke.com.
I have never regretted becoming a vegetarian and I enjoy all of nature more because of it. I loved the pics and appreciated seeing all the different deer. I come from a long line of people who love to hunt and even though I could never do it, I have no problem with people who eat what they kill or catch (or catch and release if viable).
Realist I appreciate your comments in #15. I know plenty of Liberals who hunt and plenty of Conservatives who do not. I don’t think that guns or hunting are the political bombs people assume. Wild animals are not the same as domesticated human dependent animals either. We should be much more ashamed of what happens to dogs and cats in this nation, and much more bothered by factory farming, than hunting.
I do not agree with hunting with dogs, baiting or canned hunts and I do not agree with “trophy” hunting as those are just too self serving and remove too much of the sport from the equation. Hunters come home skunked as often as with bounty IME.
well, abdnva does have some bitterness to work out after the elections you know……Sorry Dan. I’ll vouch for your character if you need me too.
Obviously abdnva is a woman, ergo the remarks about “I agree about the spiders, but I think you’ve forgotten about flies, cockroaches, mice, rats, scorpions, and snakes in that category, among many others. For that matter, anything that brushes up against your leg while you’re standing in the ocean.”
Now it’s hunting time, abdnva is again “standing by her man” while he’s “runnoft” with his buddies bringing home the venison at all hours. Good for her.
OMG. Sandi and I agree on stuff. November 16, 2010 will indeed live in infamy.
I also don’t hunt. I’m not really into sitting around, or worse yet, sitting around in the cold. No moral issues with shooting stuff, hanging around waitign on deer just isn’t my thing. I do have two good friends that hunt on my property, and keep me in a good supply of venison. Both of them are not ‘trophy’ guys, and both put as much deer in the freezer as possible every year so as to avoid spending money on beef. If I found myself spending a truckload of money on meat every year I’d reconsider my position on the boredom end of things, but as it stands right now I’ve got other stuff to do.
I will have to say that although I am totally cool with hunting, I don’t get the trophy thing myself. 9 times out of 10, what wanders by your spot is pure dumb luck. I get that you have to read sign and pick the right place to park your ass, but still. It’s luck, and the part that isn’t luck really isn’t rocket science. Hunting people is way harder and way more rewarding.
Dan seems lost on the fact that it’s not the deer porn that’s dropping his numbers, it’s the fact that every other word on this blog is “Suzie” Ta ta…
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So do you have some sort of problem with those that continue to dislike Vick for being dogfighting scum?
Vick has served two years in prison, done spots for the SPCA, and done community service, and has totally kissed the ass of the animal rights lunatics, so I don’t know what he has to do to placate you people. You act as if his crime was equal to murder. One article talked about how well he was playing if you can stand to watch him after what he did. And remember, these (you) outraged liberals are the same folks who value the lives of baby animals more than baby humans.
I mean, are you freaking kidding? These aren’t people he killed. They are animals. Sure, wanton torture is offensive. And don’t misunderstand; I am an animal lover. I have three cats, but I in no way equate them with human life. A stiff fine would have been the appropriate punishment; not prison time
So my point was, if you eat chickens debeaked, hung upside down, then electrocuted in a painful manner, how are you all that different from Michael Vick? Are chickens lesser animals than dogs? Are dogs superior because we keep them as pets?
Bottom line is, Vick’s offense wasn’t as bad as the left made it out to be. His real crime was violating one of the leftwing’s selected list of PC offenses. And now that his unfairly harsh sentence is over, his slate is more than clean, and his football achievements should be celebrated.
The leftwing PC police’s worst criminals
1. John Rocker. His career and reputation were ruined. Did he kill somebody? Maim somebody? No. He spoke his mind off the record about some of the freaks that inhabit NYC.
2. Rush Limbaugh. More dangerous to America than Fidel Castro, the media says. Rush was fired from ESPN for analyzing how the media has treated Donovan McNabb. Even though his assertions are widely recognized as correct, he was let go as a “racist”.
3. Michael Vick
4. George Allen. He was harangued by the WP and driven out of his office. Did he kill somebody? Did he steal money? No, he uttered a nonsense word than in some obscure culture 100 years ago may have had something to do with race. Or it may not have. Three people in the world had ever heard of ‘macaca’ prior to 2006.
5. Don Imus. Fired. Did he go on an angry tirade and harm the reputation of someone? No. He used a generic nonsense word off-the-cuff to describe some women basketball players.
6. Jimmy-the-Greek. His crime? He correctly noted that black athletes have natural advantages in athletics possibly due to slaveowners choosing the best physical specimens to come from Africa. True. But how dare he?
7. Ross Perot. His 1992 presidential candidacy ended when he referred to a room full of NAACP members as “you people”. Horrible.
8. Mark Foley. Did he molest underaged boys like his Democrat predecessors in Congress have done without consequence? No. He sent a few suggestive emails to pages, then promptly resigned. But his horrible crime was severe enough to indict the entire Republican Congress for corruption. What America would give today to have had that group in power the last four years and to have never heard of Nancy Freaking Pelosi.
Don’t leave Art, just pretend you are at a nice party with friends and someone brought a drunken boor and ignore it. You will look even classier and the boor will look smaller, more bitter and more out of control all the while. No need to leave friends because of idiots. Starve the beast can work if everyone would just get on board! I no longer read the posts and therefore can ignore them more easily. The opinions of people I care about matter, the blathering of idiots matters not at all.
Realist that is a BIG deal and more than a little scary. Try not to let it happen again!
#57 Loose screws Suz,
Ya’ see? More evidence of trolls latent racism. Exhibit A- Troll neck pukes a nonsensical screed about sacrificial lambs at the altar of the church of the PC (which of course the denomination is entirely liberal). Observe how she cites 8 examples. Now notice how many of the cases get commentary that she belches up reeking of the Bon Bons and Boones Farm strawberry wine that she wolfed down at yesterday’s Klatch to suffice as some sort of defense. All but one…That’s right, Suz defends the 7 white guys but can’t even utter a kind word for poor Michael Vick, Suz’s token black guy. Coincidence? I think not. Once is an anomaly, twice is a trend, but seven times?
Hey, Suz! The dry cleaner called; your white sheet is ready!
Mr. Casey,
I am an avid hunter, but am not oblivious enough to think all citizens would agree or support my passion. Each person has the right to choose their activities as they will and others have the same right to form an opinion based off that decision. Furthermore, I am by no way offended by your blog’s satirical attempt to make a play on the pictures posted on “The Wild Life.” But, I am taken back by your carnivorous journalistic diatribe that is publicly aimed at one of your fellow RT writers. I am not admonishing you for your lack of support for hunters or not personally understanding why we do what we do. But how could you “go after” a fellow employee on your own blog. It is ridiculous to think that I would agree with my fellow employees everyday on every topic. We often have different ideas, motives and fundamentals. But, as long as it is ethical and does not put our team in a negative light, I will support them as we achieve our goals. I will have to make the assumption that you and your fellow RT writers share the same goal to keep your readers engaged, entertained and informed. So, if your TEAM is ethically achieving its goal, could you explain why it is necessary to manifest such pity drama on this forum that does not help the RT team move forward in a positive direction?
#59 Well, steve, she did defend Vick in the post above it, so I’ll cut her a little slack on that part. But still your point is well taken. According to suzie’s ilk, it’s the poor white guy who’s downtrodden and at a terrible disadvantage in America.
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Dan seems lost on the fact that it’s not the deer porn that’s dropping his numbers, it’s the fact that every other word on this blog is “Suzie” Ta ta…
Dan’s numbers seem pretty robust to me, Poodle.
Sandi, I’m with you…I have no real problem with hunting for food and consuming what you eat. I couldn’t shoot a deer myself, but if someone I know happens to give me some venison, I’m happy to eat it.
I have a huge problem with the weirdos who go to those “ranches”, stocked for their pleasure with “big game”. Or wander around Africa picking off lions, elephants, and other fabulous and inedible creatures. There’s no redeeming characteristics to that activity.
http://www.buzzle.com/editorials/5-13-2002-18292.asp
“The initiative seeks to replicate the successful shoot-to-kill policies ordered by Richard Leakey, then head of Kenya’s wildlife agency, during the poaching epidemic of the 80s; but marks a violent departure for wildlife charities.”
Go Richard Leakey! We need elephants to survive way more than we need poachers. Probably unliberal of me, but I like to think that if I ever get lucky enough to go on my dream vacation – a safari – there will still be something left to see.
#59. It doesn’t surprise me that Suzie Floozy would take up for Michael Vick. I usually base a judge of character on how one treats their animals; usually I’m never wrong. And of course she must throw in the jab about “…value the lives of baby animals more than baby humans.” Truth is these dogs were abused from birth; and yes if an unstable woman like Suzie were to abuse a baby, I would rather she abort! That would be one less child that I would have to pay for!
OK OK OK I cant believe I’m going to type this but for once Suzie is right…. Uhh I part of me just died. Vick paid his debt to society and by the laws of this land, and our Constitution has made restitution for his crimes. He now has ever right to have a job a live a normal life sorry his job is being a multi million dollar QB and not a burger jockey, but that’s his job. I love dogs and I don’t think very highly of him for what he did, but the facts are he plead guilty and admitted what he did and paid for it.
Sad part is I can buy into the fact that we as a society seem to put more on Vick then say: Kobe, Roethlisberger, Tyson all of whom have sexuality assaulted women, but only Tyson went to Jail. What is it do people justify sexual assaults because they can lie to them self “well they asked for it, etc…” Suzie I hate to admit it, but your right.. So to make myself feel better
“And remember, these (you) outraged liberals are the same folks who value the lives of baby animals more than baby humans.”
Not true I will always value the life of a child over the life of an animal if I had to. However as a crazy lib I care about the Kid after it’s born into society not just before.
It seems to me most of you people who are anti hunting, or maybe although not against it, couldn’t kill an animal yourself, have no idea of why most people hunt, or what it’s all about. There are lots of reasons, of which I will not go into now because it probably wouldn’t change how you see hunting. Unless you are a complete vegetarian, every time you purchase a package of meat or fish from your local supermarket you are just paying someone else to do your dirty work,(KILLING). If it were not for your ancestors hunting and living off the land you would not be here now. As far as “trophy hunting” goes, it’s a greater challenge to try and therefore get the best representative animal of which you seek, and I assure you that it’s much more difficult to achieve! If it weren’t for hunting, how would you control the population of animals? I assure you if you let mother nature handle it that would not be a pretty sight, she is not nearly as humane as a hunter who is proficient with his or her weapon of choice.
We don’t punish people for crimes they haven’t been convicted of, and, of the above list, only Tyson and Vick were convicted. If Roethlisburger’s victims – or Kobe’s – want to bring suit and make a successful case in court, I’d be more than fine with seeing them punished.
But the fact that not every crime is punished does nothing to diminish Vick’s. Yes, he’s “paid his debt to society” and has every right to market his talents to the highest bidder – but he’s still the guy who threw dogs out the window. People are free to make of that what they wish, and just because he’s not Charles Manson doesn’t improve him any.
“but the facts are he plead guilty and admitted what he did and paid for it.”
Vick pled after two other defendants rolled on him. Until that time he maintained he was guilty of nothing. Think he would have offered that up without knowing it was going ot be a lot worse if he didn’t? He got a slap on the wrist and is right back to where he was before.
As far as I am aware, Vick has yet to state “I killed dogs and it was wrong”. Dogfighting is premeditated, it doesn’t just happen. What Vick was engaged in was so large you might as well call it commercial. Willingness to engage in wanton dog abuse on ANY scale says a lot about a persons character, to build an industry around it says even more.
Come to think of it, defending Vick says a lot about someones character too.
“but he’s still the guy who threw dogs out the window”
Not only that…he drowned,electrocuted,shot and forced these animals to fight to the death.I wish him the same fate.
Thanks for stepping up and being rational Keith. There are so many loonies who won’t let it go with Vick. I personally think Bill Clinton did far more damage to human beings when pawed women and cheated on his wife, than Vick did by killing a few dogs. Clinton’s the bastard that should have done time. Instead, Mr. Impeached is somehow the Democrat elder statesman, while Democrats can’t ever forgive the black guy.
It’s a shame Realist doesn’t defend the lives of young human beings with the same zeal he defends the lives of dogs. He thinks two years in jail is a slap on the wrist. Such is the upside-down world of the loony left.
Suzie puked up this nugget: ” Clinton’s the bastard that should have done time. Instead, Mr. Impeached is somehow the Democrat elder statesman, while Democrats can’t ever forgive the black guy.”….
So now, not only is cheating on your wife worse than dogfighting, but disliking those who dogfight is racist, AND it’s a political thing.
Ergo, I must be a liberal racist, because I would deeply enjoy electrocuting and drowning Suzie’s thug life hero Mike Vick. But only after breakign every single one of his ribs with a combat boot. No, wait. I don’t think it’s a race thing, becaue the only people I have ever physically witnessed dogfighting were white. And I wished to do physical harm to them too. I should probably not tell the rest of that particular story, so I won’t.
I dig how Suzie is so content to give Vick a free pass though. It’s cool how a guy can not only fight dogs, but kill them in the most inhumane way possible, and Suzie’s OK with it after “oops, my bad”.
Realist, love your passion on the dog issues. Have you seen the show that features “Shorty” and his Pit Bull Rescue Team? He is awesome too.
I dig how Suzie is so content to give Vick a free pass though. It’s cool how a guy can not only fight dogs, but kill them in the most inhumane way possible, and Suzie’s OK with it after “oops, my bad”.
Vick didn’t get a pass, ass. He did his unduly harsh sentence. As I said earlier, he should have gotten a big fine. So explain how you are “cool with destroying little human beings and in the most inhumane way possible.”
No Kristen, Kobe and Big Ben just have more money and can shut people up. Granted they have never been convicted, but I think its very telling they spent a ton of cash to make it go away. You however are right they have never been formally convicted of any crime so I shouldn’t lump them into my analogy. They point I was trying to make is that we have somehow lost focus on what we value sure you can hate Vick for the rest of his life it doesn’t mean he didn’t pay for it. What people tend to forget is yes Vick is an awful person for what he did and he was held accountable. Yes he pleads guilty after he knew that he wasn’t going to get away with it, but he did step up and take responsibly for his actions.
Now Suzie come on even I wont go there with Clinton, Tiger, or any other cheater what they do is between them and there families and we have no right to interfere with that.
#70 Suzie, ALWAYS bringing up race.
Keith said: “Not true I will always value the life of a child over the life of an animal if I had to. However as a crazy lib I care about the Kid after it’s born into society not just before.”
Nice point Keith. Pro-lifers, in general, are content to try to impose their will, of course by government sanction, on all of us by denying the option of abortion, but are usually the first to want to deny that woman any assistance in raising that child.
#70 Bill and Hilary have worked out in their own way. And that’s any of your business how?
“I personally think Bill Clinton did far more damage to human beings when pawed women and cheated on his wife, than Vick did by killing a few dogs”
Comment above by Suzie
Suzie the floozy obviously doesn’t understand that animal cruelty is against the law.
To the hunters: I have no “beef” with deer hunting and I am an avid carnivore. My problem is with hunters that don’t obey the rules. (ie. hunting on Sunday’s). The reason that I bring up this issue is because I use the National Forests for recreation; and this time of year I see several hunters on Sundays. Most of the hunters that I know obey the rules and hunt humanly
As far as Michael Vick is concerned; since it was brought up; if you look at his history after he was incarcerated then you will see that he is a criminal. As far as I can gather; President Clinton didn’t break any laws. Obviously Suzie fits in the low IQ category.
Suzie put her head up her ass and said….. “Vick didn’t get a pass. He did his unduly harsh sentence. As I said earlier, he should have gotten a big fine.”
So an appropriate punishment for doing unspeakable things to animals would be to fine a person who makes millions of dollars per year. And Suzie claims to be an animal lover. Is that the correct punishment in every dogfighting case, or just in this one because it involves your thug life sports hero?
“So explain how you are cool with destroying little human beings and in the most inhumane way possible.”
No matter how much you wish it were so, abortion has nothing to do with dogfighting. In fact, they’re very different. One is legal, one is a felony. Since you brought it up however, you clearly have no idea of my personal position on abortion.
I rarely do the whole “nice straw man argument” thing, but it sure applies here.
jh, I think Sunday hunting is allowed in most states right now, unfortunately Virginia isn’t one of them. I am glad you use the National Forests for recreation, do you purchase a National Forest stamp to help with the cost of forest management, hunters have to purchase it but hikers, bikers, campers, bird watchers, etc. do not! Oh and I may be in the forest on Sundays wearing my camo but not hunting.
@#73 “Have you seen the show that features “Shorty” and his Pit Bull Rescue Team? ”
I LOVE that show!
There’s another show on that channel, called “Animal Cops”. I have a hard time watching that one sometimes, seeing the kinds of things that people will do to their animals and the condition some of them end up in. I end up crying every time I watch it.
I can’t watch those animal rescue shows. They make me homicidal.
@73.
“Realist, love your passion on the dog issues. Have you seen the show that features “Shorty” and his Pit Bull Rescue Team? He is awesome too.”
He does good stuff, I’m kind of hot and cold as far as watching the show goes though. Like I don’t really care if the one guy is moving out of the apartment he shared with the other guy. But that’s part of “reality” TV….they’re doing good by pitbulls and that’s eally all I care about at the end of the day.
“Pitbulls and Parolees” has done a ton to bring awareness to the plight of pitbulls as well. I don’t care a lot for the lady that runs the place (we have a bunch of mutual friends), but she is doing a tremendous job of saving a LOT of dogs.
80
No matter how much you wish it were so, abortion has nothing to do with dogfighting. In fact, they’re very different. One is legal, one is a felony. Since you brought it up however, you clearly have no idea of my personal position on abortion.
Abortion=killing humans. Dogfighting=killing dogs. You’ve already said you’re fine with the first one in an earlier thread. But you throw a hissy fit at the very thought of the second. So it proves at a minimum you are an anti-life hypocrite. I don’t know what you want Vick to do. Take a limo ride down here to kiss your animal-rights-nutcase ass?
As far as I can gather; President Clinton didn’t break any laws. Obviously Suzie fits in the low IQ category.
You don’t think perjury and subornation of perjury are crimes? Who’s the one with the low IQ?
#70 Bill and Hilary have worked out in their own way. And that’s any of your business how?
It’s my business because the red-nosed philandering bastard was calling or fat Monica 73 times between 12 and 3 am when he should have been sleeping, so that he could get up the next day and stop 0sama Bin Laden’s terrorist network in the U.S. in its tracks and PREVENT 9-11 from ever happening. Then he spent a whole year in hiding, working out his lying testimony.
Suzie wrongly said: “You’ve already said you’re fine with the first one in an earlier thread. But you throw a hissy fit at the very thought of the second. So it proves at a minimum you are an anti-life hypocrite.”
Actually I never said that you crazy old lady. As I previously stated, you have no idea of my position on abortion.
It is worth repeating that abortion is not a felony, dogfighting is. The two issues have nothign in common, unless you are a raging menopausal lunatic. The day you learn to accecpt defeat is the day you will become a better person. In your case, it’s probably the also the day you’ll realize that it’s not worth getting out of bed since you’re life is FILLED with defeat and there’s not enough time in the day to come to terms with it all.
I am glad to know that being an advocate of pitbulls and occasionally inflicting harm and/or wishing ill will against those involved in dogfighting makes me an animal rights nutcase. Does that mean I have to throw away my wifes leather corset?
Realist,
Don’t make the mistake of believe that Suzie cares what the law IS. She is all about what it SHOULD BE. And her politically fetid mind is full of notions that would make your average right-wing military dictator blush.
Actually Dan, a good right wing military dictator never blushes. Eye rolls, yes. Blushing, nada. There would be plenty of eye rolls in regard to the suzie creature.
“It’s my business because the red-nosed philandering bastard was calling or fat Monica 73 times between 12 and 3 am when he should have been sleeping…”
Somebody’s jealous….
“was calling or fat Monica 73 times between 12 and 3 am when he should have been sleeping,” LOL You do have a thing for Bill !
I tried making jerky out of a photograph once. It tasted like hell.
#87 Suze is bonkers. But we already knew that.
<em<her politically fetid mind is full of notions that would make your average right-wing military dictator blush
I’ve never heard of a right-wing dictator Dan. Let’s think about this. RWers, or conservatives, want a weak limited centralized government. What dictator in history has ever wanted his power reduced and his centralized government weakened. That’s why ALL dictators and all authoritarian governments are LEFTwing by definition.
Do you liberals ever think?
Somebody’s jealous……
Perhaps Krissy has had experience with lying cheating males. I never have, so I don’t see the attraction in a l red-faced bulbous-nosed fat ass lyingr cheating impeached disgrace of a man. But that’s just me.
I am glad to know that being an advocate of pitbulls and/or occasionally inflicting harm or wishing ill will against those involved in dogfighting makes me an animal rights nutcase.
No, what makes you an animal rights nutcase is the fact that no amount of punishment for Michael Vick will ever be enough in your eyes. Animal rights kooks view animal abuse the same or worse than murder of human beings. Ergo, the comparison to abortion.
I’m rapidly coming to the conclusion that Realist just isn’t real sharp. I’d just finished explaining the hypocrisy of believing animals should be treated better than unborn babies, to which Realist repeats the same dumbass question.
Duvalier (Haiti), Batista (Cuba), Truillo (Domincan Republic), Pinochet (Chile), Stroessner (Paraguay), Pahlevi (Iran), Somoza (Nicaragua), Rios Mont (Guatemala), Franco (Spain), Amin (Uganda), Diem (South Vietnam) are all right wing dictators.
And all authoritarian governments are not left wing by definition.
Dan, sounds like a list of failed nation building by the U.S. over the past 50 years. “cept maybe Franco and Amin.
Hilter was Rightwing. What’s the fail number up too suzie?
What would you call the dictitorial moral standards inforced upon Catholics seen as holding heretical beliefs in the middle ages?
Sounds Rigth wing to me. Submit or die. Pretty black and white situation looks to me like.
Even back to Agustus Caesars “Lex Iulia de adulteriis” which attempted to bring moral caracter back in vogue in is time and reward couples who produced children and punished those who lived a lifestyte of excess and flaunted wealth and power. Caesar even exiled his own daughter to Ventotene because he could not even maintain proper decorum in this own house. I would say Agustus Caesar was a ring winger who would make Sarah Palin proud.(Thought Agustus would certainly deal severely with daughter Bristol.)
#98, All true, Dan, but brown-eyes has never heard of any of them. There’s nothing quite like a wasted education, is there?
#97, Suzie brown-eyes, repeating a sentence does not explain the sentence. I disagree with Realist frequently, but he’s got more intelligence in his left foot than you have in your head.
I didn’t see anything before Dan’s post, and yet I knew it was a response to the usual idiot “All dictators are liberals” comment.
Which demonstrates mainly a complete lack of understanding of the term “liberal” . By definition, no dictator can be “liberal”.
98 Dan.
Duvalier (Haiti), Batista (Cuba), Truillo (Domincan Republic), Pinochet (Chile), Stroessner (Paraguay), Pahlevi (Iran), Somoza (Nicaragua), Rios Mont (Guatemala), Franco (Spain), Amin (Uganda), Diem (South Vietnam) are all right wing dictators.
Which of those dictators believed in less government? Which wanted less power for themselves? Which believed in free markets unfettered by government?
Suzie,
They were all right-wing dictators long before you redefined the term right wing. Give it a rest.
#105 Suzie, every single dictatorship in Latin America except Castro has been considered right wing. They usually HATE communists (which is why the U.S. has supported so many of these scumbags) and they frequently maintain close ties to the church (usually Catholic). Most of these guys are also pretty much pro-capitalist.
You are just flat-out wrong arguing that none of these guys are rightists.
Suzie said “I’m rapidly coming to the conclusion that Realist just isn’t real sharp. I’d just finished explaining the hypocrisy of believing animals should be treated better than unborn babies, to which Realist repeats the same dumbass question.”
Which is pretty funny a: because at no point have I asked a question. I’ve made a statement, twice now; and b: considering the source. Suzie not understanding something that I have clearly stated twice is in no way indicitive of my own mental abilities.
Then she said: “No, what makes you an animal rights nutcase is the fact that no amount of punishment for Michael Vick will ever be enough in your eyes. Animal rights kooks view animal abuse the same or worse than murder of human beings. Ergo, the comparison to abortion.”
Thinking a guy that isn’t sorry for crimes against pitbulls hasn’t been punished enough isn’t nutty. It’s logical. Why you ask? If he HAD gotten punished enough, he might at some point shown some remorse. He hasn’t. Not even a little bit. If he were laying on the ground and I were kicking hm in the ribs hearing stuff pop and snap, and he choked out an “I’m sorry” between sobs, I’d quit kicking him. It’s really that simple. People who abuse animals over and over with no remorse have mental problems and are pure trash. Did you hear that Suzie? Your football playing hero is pure worthless ghetto trash. You pretty obviously are too for having ANY sort of notion to stick up for him. Lower than dirt, plain and simple, and totally worthless to society.
And again, you do not know my personal position on abortion because I have never stated it on this or any other public forum. Why? Because it’s not a political issue as far as I’m concerned. You can continue to *think* you know my position on it as long as you want, much like you continue to *think* you know anything about anything else. Continued comparisons between abortion and Vicks FELONY CRIMES are useless, but you still do it, because you cannot muster up any logical argument to defend your football star.
Since she’s defined “leftist” as “everything SuzieQ doesn’t like”, she’s not close to capable of applying the term in a real world construct. Likewise, if she doesn’t like something, she’s not capable of comprehending it as being on the “right”.
Turn Ons: Rainbows, snow days, kicking homeless people,Pat Boone, unicorns, cutting in line in front of slow handicapped people, chocolate ice cream
, tipping my waitress a penny because she has a zit 
Turn Offs: bell ringers,kids trying to jack me for $1 at their stupid lemonade stands, friends who beat me in Bunko, mean people who beep at me going 24 mph in the left hand lane
. “Continued comparisons between abortion and Vicks FELONY CRIMES are useless, but you still do it, because you cannot muster up any logical argument to defend your football star.”
Thank you “queeks draw Mcgraw!”
I’ve made the case twice why all dictators are leftwing. All you people can say is “No, they aren’t”, as if that’s supposed to be good enough. I guess you can’t substantiate your argument except to say that “Well, these dictators are considered right wing”.
By whom? Leftwingers?
You people should know by now if you don’t bring something to the table, I’m going to hand you your lunch in about thirty seconds flat.
The only case you’ve made, Suzie, is that you want to redefine the world in your own terms. Go ahead and do it. Wet = dry. Light = dark. Warm = cold.
It’s kooky, and you shouldn’t expect respect from it. Quite the opposite.
Suzie just admitted: “I’m going to hand you your lunch in about thirty seconds flat.”
I guess that comes after years of her husband saying “Quit being an idiot on the computer and make me a damn sandwich!”
The deer would look better in a freezer!
# 2
“This reminds me of a conversation I had a few years back with a lady at a party.
SNIP
”
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LOL.
Reminds me of a similar comment I heard once. The lady asked how much it cost the State to train the deer to cross at the signs and did the insurance companies underwrite any of the cost.
I personally like the dead variety…makes great stew. Live ones wreck my garden too much.
Don’t get bent out of shape over the term “porn”. Food pics are called food porn.
The worst is the pictures of the children holding up the heads of dead animals and grinning away.
Nature is beautful.
Nature is real.
I did not see any pictures of starving animals due to over population.
Hunters whether you like it or not, serve a purpose. Thinning
herds is a service to the animals and to man.
VDOT and other States highway departments figures agree that as the
deer population rises so do car-deer accidents.
At the game Saturday, there was a whole pig in the smoker at the tailgate next to us… thing had been in there like for 11 hours.
Kids were lining up to have their picture taken next to it and were grinning ear to ear.
Wonder if that offends anyone??
Dan, your case of ‘hit’ envy is pretty sad. It must eat at you every fall that people actually take pleasure in posting a pic of their hunting accomplishments. Try to grow up and be better than that.
As for the claim that live deer are always better than dead? There are far too many arguments to contradict your contention to even list here. I’ll just stick with grilled venison sirloins and leave it there.
Oh, yeah, I’m not falling for the ‘photo gallery’ you have above where every photo represents a new ‘hit’ for you in your egomaniacal attempt to outdo Mark Taylor. In fact, I’m not even going to check back on this thread. I’ll just deprive you of those ‘hits’. I’ve got to go check out some deer porn. Over and over and over…
@120
mmmmmm….pig on smoker…ahhhhhhhh
I would be offended if they used a mustard based sauce.
Growing up on a farm, you leared quickly to respect death. The dangers in farming kept it ever present, but also, the slaughtering of livestock. To watch the life leave an animals eyes is so sad and it lingers with you as you dress and butcher the meat. Death should not be glorified, whether animal or mammon.
Yes #121, because no one ever posts on Dan’s blog.
His blog is clearly kicking the butt out of every single other blog on the RT site…nothing comes close.
And kids clutching dead animal heads and grinning over them like ghouls is just weird. Sorry, weird.
Death should not be glorified, whether animal or mammon.
WTH?
All those lefties who whine about the cruelty deer hunting, how will you feel when you hit one of the thousands of excess deer on the highway. How ‘humane’ will that be for the deer? Will you feel so snooty about it when your crappy GM car is out of commission for three weeks?
Like so many things the left objects to, their ‘solutions’ always end up doing more damage to the very things they preach about.
Just for the record, I don’t object to deer hunting. On the other hand, I like to see live deer a lot more than dead ones.
(I’d rather eat meat from a dead one, though!)
This is great, Dan, Mark even has a photo up with a 16-month-old hanging on to the antlers. Glad he didn’t fall forward.
Me? I’ll eat venison or pig off the smoker and I’m perfectly happy for folks who enjoy hunting to go off and have their fun, but I’ve never gotten the whole posing-with-the-kill thing.
#120 Next time they line up for photos next to the bloody carcass right after slaughter in the parking lot, let us know, MMM.
Man, all those pictures of kids standing beside stuffed tigers or bears and smiling must drive some people completely crazy!!
Or those kids that catch a fish and hold it up for the camera smiling… the nerve!!
Next time I see a dead squirrel in the road I’m going to hop out for a photo opp and submit the picture.
It wasn’t in a parking lot, gdad. It was over in the grass at the bottom of Chicken Hill. Hey, I bet you know where that place is!!
#129 Could you just not let it go?
#129 Could you just not let it go?
Nope. Gdad keeps it going and going and going. I feel bad for Mark having to put up with it.
#132 Then let us know the next time they’re posing next to bloody freshly slaughtered hogs there in the grass (which is next to said parking lot). Then you’ll have something comparable to the deer photos.
#131 We always get photos of our cats posing next to their latest kill, Kristen. It’s so sweet.
#134 Yeah, poor widdle MMM. It’s so cute of you to defend him, suzie. Trolls of a feather.
Several years ago, I’m thinking it was fall of 2004, I was working in Blacksburg on a survey crew out near the Alpha Gamma Rho house near the 460 bypass. They were getting ready for a home tailgate and had a hog in a penned-in area near their house. While we were surveying, they shot the hog, then raised it using a large tree branch to bleed it out. I’m sure they ate well, they had a fairly large smoker sitting nearby ready to go to work. Some of the best, easiest smokers are simply 55-gallon drums cut in half, with hinges and a handle added. Theirs was similar, but much larger.
# 127 “Just for the record, I don’t object to deer hunting. On the other hand, I like to see live deer a lot more than dead ones.
(I’d rather eat meat from a dead one, though!)”
Everybody’s in an uproar, and in reality all this is about is Dan’s blog getting SMOKED by Mark Taylor’s Wildlife blog. Its hunting season, so he had to do something to draw attention to his Socialist blog. See how he is trying to help out his cause in post #127. Mark totally kicked his tail with post #51.
@135 What about kids that catch fish, gdad? Standing there and smiling while holding them up…
Yo, Un Lost,
Tell us more about how Wildlife is kicking this blog’s butt. Give us some recent page view numbers.
“Dan’s blog getting SMOKED by Mark Taylor’s Wildlife blog.”
Really. 5 people on 5 threads all posting “Great buck!” is hardly “smoking” this blog.
UnLost, you might do yourself a favor and check the dates on those posts you mention.
Are there any smart RWers out there at all?
#140 I dunno, what about them? If dead animals make the kiddies happy, well, then…
Then we can compare winter pageview numbers from Weather Journal the last 2 years. Snow — or any hint of it — apparently trumps dead deer or political arguing in this area. (Heat waves, hurricanes, tornadoes, not so much)
I’m working on my Winter Wonderland gallery now!
“Sorry, weird.”
I worry more about first-graders in the woods with high-powered rifles.
live deer are not better than dead deer. Deer are pests, a plague upon the earth.
Hunters culling them every year help reduce the population. Without this, we’d all be hitting them on the roadways.
AND, they taste good.
” Deer are pests, a plague upon the earth.”
A similar argument could be made against man.
“I worry more about first-graders in the woods with high-powered rifles.”
This used to worry me, then I was assured that it’s “family heritage”. I felt a lot better then.
scott, last I checked, deer haven’t rendered our air unbreathable and our water undrinkable. You’ll have to look a little closer to home for that.
Art, I totally agree that man is as well.
Ahhh the perks of being higher up on the food chain.
@143 Yeah I dont know either. I know my kids get really happy when we cook hamburger or steak or fish and they see a huge piece of raw salmon or a massive porterhouse.
Guess that makes them weird to some people??
#151 I wouldn’t presume to comment on any of your family members, MMM. You tend to go sorta bonkers.
We cooked some mighty nice chicken on the grill last night, and I’ve got a beef roast going now for some pulled bbq for tonight. Venison also makes good bbq, when cooked right…and really good jerky.
Art, I totally agree that man is as well.
Scott, It doesn’t really help your credibility when you agree with middle-of-the-night drunken ramblings.
The fact is, Man is the crowning achievement of God. We are chosen species and all others are here at our pleasure to serve us.
I enjoyed rereading some back posts in this old thread, especially my own. Like where I slapped around poor dumb Realist and the other leftwingers on topics like Michael Vick, dogfighting, abortion, and dictatorships.
The fun starts at post #56. Sometimes I’m so good, I amaze myself.
That fun , Suzie , is in your head..
There is little else going on in there,
and if you weren’t so annoying and clueless
you’d be pitiful.
Which by the way you’ve hit the trifecta.
Dead deer is serious yall…serious.
Its the ones that come back to haunt you
that make you jittery.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyyY05bSDMA
It’s interesting that old posts nonetheless bear the later avatars of those who’ve changed them.
Re: October 11, 2011 @ 11:11 am
“I enjoyed rereading some back posts in this old thread, especially my own.”
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Ah! For once old Rants & Raves (w/ lies) was honest — acknowledging his/her narcissism, be it her/his psychoanalytic mental illness or the social and cultural problem he/she represents.
Could it be that back then he/her had a moment of decent honesty.
Or was this just another case of a blind pig inadvertently stumbling across an acorn?
LOL I never saw that swipe that our Lady of the Deluded Valium posted there, directed at me.
Thanks for reposting, Dan! Amusing!
When you change your avatar, it replaces itself in older posts.
Deer Porn season again? How time flies.
Re: Dan Casey @ 2:45 pm
Yup. And maybe more important to some, the avatars change on all blogs etc that link to the avatar data base for them based on you email address.
Re: Kristen @ 2:59 pm
Yup, the Swolenogin Bambitis Ignoramus a.k.a the Bambi syndrome season is upon us yet again?
How time does fly. Or is that does’ flies or deer ticks or Lyme disease?
There are PLENTY of deer to look at in my neighborhood. I actually enjoy seeing them. But they certainly do like to eat my landscaping plants. (Oh, well, some of them needed pruning anyway).
There’s an especially attractive specimen over at Taylors blog of two guys mugging over the head of a dead deer whose tongue is hanging out of it’s mouth. Xmas card quality!
I think I have an idea for a
very popular blog.
Itll be about a lunatic woman
who is infatuated with then sails
onto the back of a running deer..
screaming “I told you all so ..I told you
so” into the dimming evening and the drifting snow.
And the moderator brings in someone a bit more moderate
from Lapland to give some sage reindeer reasoning.
Top of the World with Tjorvin..but alas it wears thin,,
It is yet more distant than Texarkana.
I’ll post this here and hope Mark Taylor sees it.
He had a column earlier this season about how to take better photos of killed game while in the field, and it was a very good primer. It gave concise tips for how to blend the documentary needs with a visually pleasing photo. I think some of the hunters have shown they’ve followed his tips, for example, the photo a month or so ago of a guy’s nicely taken black bear, and more are avoiding the careless aspects of field photos that make them seem garishly pornlike.
So, thanks Mark, and maybe re-run that column every so often, maybe with updates for new tech.