Aiming for victory on the Friday OPEN thread
Shot by Dan at Curry Copy on Campbell Avenue
“While a defeat for Obamacare in the Court would be nice, the defeat of President Obama at the polls on November 6 is crucial. If electoral victory is achieved, Obamacare can and will be repealed – and more judges of a constitutionalist persuasion will be appointed by the next president.”
Bill Kristol
November 9, 2012 - 10:00 AM
Kristol is Almost as delusional as Rove .speaking of delusional , Where’s terps?
I may soil my pants when seeing this movie next summer:
http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/paramount/worldwarz/
But then, this is what Republicans think will happen after Obama is inaugurated in January.
You never see women on here constantly goading each other. I guess it’s the girls mature faster then boys thing.
More exit polling results show 2/3 of all voters favored offering undocumented immigrants the opportunity to apply for legal status, 60% of all voters favored legalized abortion. Obama won the Latino vote by a margin of 44 percentage points vs. 36 percentage points in ’08. In ’04 Bush won 44% of the Latino vote, on Tuesday Romney won 27%.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/08/opinion/the-republicans-post-election-day.html?nl=opinion&emc=edit_ty_20121108
Highly recommend viewing Skyfall this weekend. It’s one of the best Bond movies in a while!
Apparently the investment banks decided to take quick action to protect the lower capital gain tax rates by taking profits right after the election. This would indicate they believe capital gain rates will be increased by Congress or at the very least, Congress will not reach an agreement and let the Bush tax cuts expire.
Richard Beason, welcome back!
And now the party that basically spit on the Latino vote for the last twelve months sudenly seems ready to become BFF’s with Latinos. Go figure!
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/sean-hannity-john-boehner-gop-tackle-immigration-reform-142212570–election.html
Good to see you back Richard. Yes that is the beauty of being a bankster, you can take your money one way or the other. The rest of us, not so much. But the system is so “fair” and “good”…
I’m not a Rachel Maddow devotee, but I loved this segment of hers from yesterday: https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=SVwXA7sHUlE
Nasoj, I’m hoping to see Skyfall later today!
Laura, Skyfall pays great homage to some of the early classic Bond films. Hope you enjoy it as much as I!
This is great!
Democrat-Boycotting Libertarian Eric Dondero on Whether He Would Let a Democrat Drown
Read it just for a hoot.
Never thought they could top Sean Connery. I was wrong.
#3 You never see suzie goading people — male or female? Weird. But then maybe suzie isn’t really a woman.
Speaking of Obamacare…I just got off a 2 hour conference call on healthcare reform implementation.
One thing I learned is the the non-profit asociation, GEHA, who underwrites the 2nd largest Federal Employee Health Benefit Plan, will be offering a nationwide health insurance plan that mirrors the Federal Employee Health Plan.
Gov. McDonnell elected not to offer a Virginia Exchange, at least for 2014. I believe his decision is short sighted and politically motivated. I haven’t heard if he is going to opt out of the Federally funded expansion of Medicaid for States too (my guess is that he will opt out just to double down on Teapublican obstructionism). Not offering the Medicaid piece of ACA will hurt the poorest of the poor (families under 133% of the poverty level).
“After Obama reelection coal company CEO reads prayer to staff, announces layoffs”:
http://m.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/after-obama-re-election-ceo-reads-prayer-to-staff-announces-layoffs/2012/11/09/e9bca204-2a63-11e2-bab2-eda299503684_story.html
Yep, Robert Murray, CEO, a real man of God (NOT)
I’m not so sure Suzie is a female either, Gdad.
Bill Perdue@1:52
I belive Gov. McD announced that he would opt out of the medicaid portion several weeks before the elction in a campaign appearance with Mitt Romney. Nursing home patients be damned as far as he is concerned. Just more money to give to TV producers and the Washiungton Redskins.
This just in, CIA chief David Petraeus resigns. Lacked johnson control. Film at 11.
Dave, I hadn’t heard about McDonnell announcing his Medicaid decision regarding ACA. Typical.
#17 Gotcha, Debbie.
Yeah Coward Robert Murray, blame Obama when the real culprit is cheap natural gas:
“Power generation from coal is falling quickly. According to new figures from the U.S. Energy Information Administration, coal made up 36 percent of U.S. electricity in the first quarter of 2012 — down from 44.6 percent in the first quarter of 2011.
That stunning drop, which represented almost a 20 percent decline in coal generation over the last year, was primarily due to low natural gas prices. As EIA explains, natural gas generation will climb steadily this year, while coal will see a double-digit drop by the end of 2012:”
http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2012/05/14/483432/us-coal-generation-drops-19-percent-in-one-year-leaving-coal-with-36-percent-share-of-electricity/?mobile=nc
Hint to Billionaires: We didn’t buy your lies in the election and we ain’t buying your lies now. Be a man and tell the truth!
Art, let’s not dismiss Sean Connery just yet. He is still my favorite Bond, but Daniel Craig is a very close second!
Bill, re: 2:19
The demand for coal is tanking, obama has vowed to shut down the industry, the EPA has made it impossible to build new plants. A business can not continue to run as “normal” when they have less income.
Do not worry, I am sure those “laid off” workers will find that collecting taxpayer funded benefits, while laying around on the couch all day is tons of fun… unless they actually have some “pride”.
ColdnP, you are correct that natural gas prices are low… you should also look at what this administration’s EPA has done to kill the coal industry.
I see that obama’s CIA director, Petraeus, has conveniently resigned and, therefore, will not testify at the hearing on the Benghazi fiasco next week.
Apparently he just realized he had an extramarital affair that he did not know about before the election or before he was scheduled to testify.
“the most transparent administration” seems a bit opaque… Amazing…
mikeO,
The demand for coal is tanking right now because the supplies of gas are way up and it is now cheaper than coal, and power plants are converting. In fact, the number of coal mining jobs under Obama grew way more than in 8 years under GWB.
http://blogs.wvgazette.com/coaltattoo/2012/05/17/w-va-coal-mining-jobs-on-rise-under-obama/
mikeo
You just assumed that Petraeus would not be tetifying next week at the Benghazi hearing. I think he will still be tetifying. Just because he’s no longer the Director doesn’t get him off the hook for testifying about what happened when he was director.
MitchMcConnell should be very afraid and start looking over his shoulder. He won’t be able to outspend his opponent in 2014 by 10 million dollars. As a matter of fact, I doubt if he and Karl Rove and the Kch Bros. can put together enough cash to outspend this likely opponent because everybody in Hollywood, all women, and just about any red blooded man will be jumping to contribute to her campaign.
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/ashley-judd-future-senator-171816732–election.html
This just in, CIA chief David Petraeus resigns.
That’s the third general to resign on the idiot. Quite a commander-in-chief we have there. Funny how our photo-op CIC hasn’t bothered with New York City. STILL without power.
Where’s FEMA?
“After Obama reelection coal company CEO reads prayer to staff, announces layoffs”:
You morons act surprised. Believe me, there is a lot more where this is coming from.
Re: Comment by Suzie — November 9, 2012 @ 8:07 pm
Another “mark it down and take it to the bank” such as your http://tinyurl.com/abqjl8e ?
As I’m just catching up, this is a tad dated and redundant but a good read, never-the-less, IMHO http://tinyurl.com/bshy9xb
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Worst Predictions: Election Edition
The 10 dumbest calls of the campaign.
BY JOSHUA KEATING | NOVEMBER 7, 2012
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What’s REALLY hysterical about suzie’s terrible election predictions is that she fell hook, line and sinker for every one of the right-wing lines — Romney is creaming Obama, the polls are all skewed Democrat, this will be a repeat of Reagan’s surprise, Obama supporters aren’t energized and won’t come ut to vote, and on and on — and then parroted them here like they were her own.
Re: the significance of the women vote
http://tinyurl.com/co3dtp3
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November 9, 2012
Gender Gap in 2012 Vote Is Largest in Gallup’s History
Obama wins women’s vote; Romney has eight-point edge among men
by Jeffrey M. Jones
PRINCETON, NJ — President Barack Obama won the two-party vote among female voters in the 2012 election by 12 points, 56% to 44%, over Republican challenger Mitt Romney. Meanwhile, Romney won among men by an eight-point margin, 54% to 46%. That total 20-point gender gap is the largest Gallup has measured in a presidential election since it began compiling the vote by major subgroups in 1952.
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In all fairness we should acknowledge that some do get it.
http://tinyurl.com/ajuhzjs
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Steve LaTourette: Tea party claim is ‘crap’
By KATIE GLUECK | 11/8/12 11:05 AM EST
Republican Rep. Steve LaTourette slammed the Tea Party on Thursday and said the GOP needs to start acting like a national party.
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Might sanity be just over the horizon?
http://tinyurl.com/cgycf9c
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How Obama and Boehner could raise tax revenues
By JAKE SHERMAN and JENNIFER EPSTEIN | 11/9/12 11:40 AM EST Updated: 11/9/12 5:57 PM EST
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Which is why, somewhere embedded in their competing statements, may be the path to a deal.
Consider this: Both men want to close the loopholes and deductions that clutter the Tax Code – a process that would raise revenue. Boehner said Friday he is opposed to raising tax rates, and Obama didn’t once mention rates.
There’s a win for both men in eliminating tax loopholes and deductions: Obama can say the wealthy are paying more, and Boehner can say he didn’t raise tax rates. At the same time, the government gets more revenue.
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A tad of good news on one of my recurring themes, pet peeves, rants, raves and considered opinions.
http://tinyurl.com/a6heb9a
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Feds to Bal Harbour: Hand over seized drug loot
Bal Harbour was directed to turn over millions that were seized by the village’s vice cops but not properly accounted for.
By Daniel Chang and Michael Sallah
dchang@MiamiHerald.com
The U.S. Justice Department shut down Bal Harbour’s celebrated federal forfeiture program and ordered the police to return more than $4 million, slapping the agency with crushing sanctions for tapping into drug money to pay for first-class flights, luxury car rentals, and payments to informants across the country
After years of seizing millions from criminals, Bal Harbour’s vice squad is now banned from the federal program that allowed the village police for years to seize cars, boats, and cash — and to keep a cut of the proceeds.
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For years, the small coastal town known for speed traps became one of the most successful in Florida, with plainclothes cops jetting across the nation toting bags stuffed with cash from investigations that had no connection to Bal Harbour — and making few arrests.
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http://tinyurl.com/a4xyfmp
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CQ TODAY ONLINE NEWS – BUDGET
Nov. 8, 2012 – 6:17 p.m.
CBO Says Averting Fiscal Cliff Would Boost Economy by 3 Percent
By Paul M. Krawzak, CQ Staff
The Congressional Budget Office, weighing in on the fiscal cliff issues confronting Congress, issued a pair of reports on Thursday that said averting the full array of expiring of tax cuts and automatic spending reduction would add about 3 percent to economic activity next year.
The assessment came as CBO affirmed its view that allowing the slate of fiscal measures to tumble forward at the start of 2013 would send the economy into recession, triggering a 0.5 percent contraction in GDP.
CBO issued the reports as Congress returns next week to face the politically-charged issues that figured heavily in the presidential campaigns and have dominated discussions in post-election Washington. Returning lawmakers, CBO said, face a daunting fiscal challenge.
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Nosaj (whoops, sorry for misspelling your name earlier), you were right – Skyfall is excellent.
Mike o,
When I am making a point I link to supporting evidence what I’m saying is correct. Please link to any documentation showing the Obama Admin has destroyed the Coal Industry. I’m not saying you’re wrong, Just that I do my homework, you brought the subject of Obama’s EPA out, so show me your source. I’m not up to doing my homework and yours.
What’s REALLY hysterical about suzie’s terrible election predictions is that she fell hook, line and sinker for every one of the right-wing lines — Romney is creaming Obama, the polls are all skewed Democrat, this will be a repeat of Reagan’s surprise, Obama supporters aren’t energized and won’t come ut to vote, and on and on — and then parroted them here like they were her own.
I guess we didn’t take into account all the precincts that had mysterious vote counts like 880 to 13. And the late night vote counting in Miami. ( “Mr. Axelrod, how many votes do you need?” ) Our error was miscalculating the rampant cheating the Democrat/ACORN machine was capable of. We just looked at 0bama’s tiny audiences vs. Romney’s huge throngs. We looked at the focus groups, the message, the demeanor of the candidates. I guess we were grossly naive about the cheating and the paying-off of minorities through goodies.
We need consultants like Scott Moran to tell us at least some of the ways votes are stolen.
CNN saying there is more to the Petraeus story than is getting out, that normally situations like these would be handled through a quiet resignation for personal reasons.
I suspect Petraeus was about to make a public statement damning to the 0bama administration, so they moved quickly to destroy and discredit him beforehand.
“I guess we didn’t take into account all the precincts that had mysterious vote counts like 880 to 13. And the late night vote counting in Miami. ( “Mr. Axelrod, how many votes do you need?” ) Our error was miscalculating the rampant cheating the Democrat/ACORN machine was capable of. We just looked at 0bama’s tiny audiences vs. Romney’s huge throngs. We looked at the focus groups, the message, the demeanor of the candidates. I guess we were grossly naive about the cheating and the paying-off of minorities through goodies.”
Not one of Suze’s many Romney-in-a-landslide predictions took into account the possibility that Obama might win because of so-called “massive” vote fraud. She forgot to cover herself for such an eventuality.
That is kind of quaint when you’re dealing with elections, but when you’re in business an oversight like that can easily spell doom and failure.
And that’s probably what’s REALLY going on with hubby’s enterprise, and Suze’s sour grapes, and her promises to leave the valley. He’s had some major business reversals of late, because he didn’t look far enough ahead.
She’s blaming the election for that, of course.
#33 Gdad,
Suz fell “hook, line and sinker” for this nonsense as well? Damn, I thought it was just Frank. Hmmm, I starting to form a hypothesis here; we have two right-tards that mindlessly fell “hook, line and sinker” for the dopey predictions and false information they were fed. “Hook, line and sinker” affliction could actually be the preliminary stage of morphing from human to a zombie state. Think about it; they both went from their normal low functioning human intellectual state to absolute imbeciles incapable of reasoning, a transformation that occurred approximately 24 hours after the country reelected President Obama. One is an anomaly, two is a trend, and beyond that we now have a pattern in which we can use normal and control groups to test my hypothesis. In addition to these imbeciles, I’m also going to need Sharon N, pammy, Leon, DMatt and a handful of you other clowns to test for “Hook, line and sinker” disease.
Also, while I’m conducting these tests in the better interest of society, I’m going to need somebody to return the favor and head over to Gander Mountain and pick me a heavy duty crossbow and a whole bunch of bolts; if “Hook, line and sinker” disease really is the beginning of the zombie apocalypse, a very real possibility, I’m going to need the right tools to nip this thing in the bud before it gets out of hand.
You guys can thank me for me public service later after I’ve saved humanity.
Re: Comment by Steve C — November 10, 2012 @ 10:22 am
Love it!
There is a certain irony humor in the picture of a major troller biting on a baitless / lureless “hook, line, and sinker.”
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William Casey, Reagan’s CIA director managed to conveniently die of a brain tumor during Iran contra. That precluded him from testifying , obviously. Petraeus, otoh, will still get to testify and make whatever statements he wants. His leaving the job doesn’t change anything. Silly.
Hum?
Another option / explanation for a Suzie charity efforts?
http://tinyurl.com/b5ktlad
Interesting timing.
Maybe she wasn’t lying about working on a charity.
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Dan and Sandy, good to be back. 7 more conferences to go so I’ll be in and out.
Mike O – Like many industries, coal is having to deal with the changing times. The China market is down because of the World Economy, the Us Market is off because of Natural Gas. Both markets will come back in the short term. However long-term Coal and Oil will have to find way sof competing in a world where fossil fuels continue to lose favor.
That said, it remains a mystery why conservatives are so concerned about saving coal and oil. They have complained consistently that government should not have saved the auto industry or the banking industry when doing so saved millions of jobs and most likely the US and World economies. That you have been totally against. Yet when it comes to fossil fuels which continue to threaten the World in climate change and in health costs , and War, you consistently expect the government to remove all regulations, subsidize the industries through tax benefits and the World’s largest military to protect supplies, and stop research and development of alternative fuels. Oil and coal have been subsidized for decades at the expense of many other industries. They have been propped up time and again by the government. Yet, conservatives pretend Obama is destroying their business when in fact,the industry is destroying themselves by refusing to change.
The oil and coal industries believed it was cheaper to buy anelection rather than change their business model. Their PAC money blew up in their face and now they are screaming that they can’t survive. Simply a poor plan on their part and simply foolish arguments by you in trying to claim the Obama Administration is damaging the industries. Unless they are too big to fail like the auto industry and the banks, they willhave to adjust like all businesses or fail.
Mike O – As for Petraeus. you do realize he was considered a potential Republican presidential candidate, don’t you. He kept his jobs under Obama solely because of his talents, not his ideology and certainly not because of his personality. He let his ambition and mouth get him in trouble many times but his talents kept him on the job. Apparently he realized he had gone too far this time and became such a liability to the Country as well as his family that he chose to retire.
It is a shame that his personal faults led to the loss of his military talents, yet, that situation has been written since the Greeks.
“The oil and coal industries believed it was cheaper to buy an election rather than change their business model. Their PAC money blew up in their face and now they are screaming that they can’t survive. Simply a poor plan on their part and simply foolish arguments by you in trying to claim the Obama Administration is damaging the industries.”
Hum?
Could Suzie’s alleged hubby actually be a coal miner?
Sounds like the same business failure / mismanagement.
Hum?
Could Suzie’s alleged hubby actually be a coal miner?
Sounds like the same business failure / mismanagement.
What’s the matter, old man? Jealous? I could buy you and your lineup of medications a million times over. Why so bitter? Your side won. You successfully gamed and corrupted the system. You’ll have free goodies for your three or four remaining years, so put on a smile.
#41 Good lord are you desperate to cover up your embarrassment, scuzeme.
#42 God, suzie, you’re getting weaker and weaker.
#44 Keep us up to date, Steve C.
Cold,
A good start would be with obama’s own words. It’s pretty simple to find more.
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/p-j-gladnick/2008/11/02/hidden-audio-obama-tells-sf-chronicle-he-will-bankrupt-coal-industry
Richard,
I never suggested “saving coal”, I suggested the administration is placing so many regulations that they can not survive.
If the EPA created a regulation for the auto industry that they could not produce any cars after 2012 that did not get 100 mpg, would you say the auto industry had a bad business model or that the EPA had onerous regulations?
How about if the IRS said that, in order to keep their license, all CPA’s had to be sure their clients were within plus or minus five dollars on their tax returns (meaning they could not pay over five dollars or get over five dollars in refunds). Would that be an impossible regulation or does it just mean you need to change your business model.
Btw… are you advising your clients to overpay (for potential “sequestration” rates); or are you telling them to pay at the current rates (hoping they won’t fire you should they suddenly be hit with thousands due in new rates?).
I know accountants that are in a tizzy right now.
Re: Comment by Suzie — November 10, 2012 @ 7:07 pm
I’m not complaining, or bitter, or planning to closing a failing, mismanaged business.
Your psychological projection bias has you deluded to the point you can’t read or remember who said what?
mike o – I have been in business long enough to have seen much worse than anything Obama has come up with. For instance Passive Loss Rules under Reagan that shut down the real estate business, or 20% interest rates, or gas lines on every other day. This is what happens when you are in business. Try being 27 years old with 8 employees, just bought a $200,000 computer system and three of your your biggest clients go bankrupt because of interest rates and passive loss rules shutting down their construction companies. You adjust. Yet you would claim Ronald Reagan was our greatest President. What can I say.
I’m not complaining, or bitter, or planning to closing a failing, mismanaged business.
Well, you ARE complaining and bitter, but I agree you would have no chance in hell of running a business of ANY kind.
You know the great thing about this, Dave H? I can still buy what I want and live where I want. But YOU are stuck with the sucky-ass 0bamacare, death panels, and a horrible economy. How far do you think your SS check will go when inflation sets in and everything skyrockets? I’ll be laughing at you from Aruba.