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Wednesday, May 22, 2013
THE ROANOKE TIMES
Below is a story that indicates how disconnected the religious right is in this country.
http://www.nationalmemo.com/jeffress-obama-re-election-will-pave-way-for-the-antichrist/
Ron,
Good story. I think that America got a good taste of the hypocrisy of religion and their leaders with this election. The elders of many churches really do not know how to handle today’s society when religion, especially Christianity, does not get its way on all fronts.
I hope that one day our country can return to the days when our country first began, when it didn’t matter what your belief or unbelief was. Our country will be completely secular again. We won’t have to entertain notions of women being raped is a gift, gays are an abomination, faith is a virtue, and threats based on religious logic. We can all reside in reality, and help our fellow human because it is the right thing to do, not because we wish to reap a reward.
The religious right is disconnected from the rest of the country’s societies because they refuse to evolve with the rest of us.
In a different thread I posted a comment reminding a fellow blogger the challenges involved with finger pointing. The article below shows why we have difficulty changing the tax code. To quote that great philosopher Pogo, “We have seen the enemy and it is us.”
http://www.nbcnews.com/business/economywatch/biggest-obstacle-tax-reform-you-are-1C7038051#
#1, the sad thing is that so many of the right wing actually believe that, they actually welcome that mindset.
looks like obama’s re-election for four more years is ushered in by the results of his middle east foreign policies of the past four years:
Gaza is verging on explosion. Syria is verging on explosion. Iran is, well, Iran. Then we’ve got Benghazi which envelopes the CIA, State Department, FBI, and obama….and then we’ve got the military fiasco of Petraeus, Allen, Holder, obama, etc.
It kinda brings to mind the old Laurel and Hardy “Who’s On First” routine.
…and we STILL have gitmo.
We still have you too Frank. And Suzie, and lower case matt and terps and Henry… Some bad things are hard to get rid of.
sandi, sandi, sandi…,
Why don’t you put some thought into what I said above? Oh, I know the answer to that. You can’t! Can ya?
So Deputy Dog was reelected Senate Minority leader…due to the great leadership he’s been providing for the last 4 years, no doubt. The GOP just can’t seem to get it.
Frank, I put thought and even effort into a great many things. Nothing you say will ever be among them. I consider the source and move on. You sir, are a waste of time, effort and civility. There is simply no use trying.
“Below is a story that indicates how disconnected the religious right is in this country”
I know Ron, we need to get connected with the beliefs that its OK to KILL babies and use our private parts to conduct rectal exams.
Perfectly and morally acceptable to the Left.
Ooh..chalk one up for sandi on #9 for the middle school comeback. Typical of the Left’s stubbornness as well.
#9 should be read: (Visualize a 12 year old with her fingers in her ears: “Im not listening! I can’t hear you!, Im not listening!!!!!!”)
“Gaza is verging on explosion. Syria is verging on explosion. Iran is, well, Iran. Then we’ve got Benghazi which envelopes the CIA, State Department, FBI, and obama….and then we’ve got the military fiasco of Petraeus, Allen, Holder, obama, etc.” -Frank
Frank, you forgot Hurricane Sandy, gas prices, childhood obesity, and the bombing of Pearl Harbor. I think you are on to something here! I bet he even know where Jimmy Hoffa’s body is!
Your ongoing obsession with anal sex is duly noted, pp.
I know Ron, we need to get connected with the beliefs that its OK to KILL babies and use our private parts to conduct rectal exams.
Perfectly and morally acceptable to the Left.
Comment by pistol pete — November 14, 2012 @ 12:46 pm
Right… but it’s okay to use 18 and 19 year-old adolescents to wipe out entire villages (including children, by the way) in other countries and also attempt to require women to be vaginally penetrated (as a punishment, no less) for a procedure that we’ve been doing externally for decades?
Morality is subjective.
Try disgust Kristen. Pigs even know better, but on the DNC PLATFORM its perfectly normal for the most intelligent animal species.
With his connections, he is BOUND to know where Hoffa is, good call Justin!
“I know Ron, we need to get connected with the beliefs that its OK to KILL babies and use our private parts to conduct rectal exams.” -pp
I don’t think we need to be connected to Catholics at all…
Pistol, you cannot blame me, or any other liberal for your failures or Frank’s. Coherent, honest, intelligent, factual and relevant conversation seems to elude you right wingers.
Loony Leon, Jeffrey Dodo, Mikeo the conspiracy theorist, and Gomer the Benghazi Bozo all assured us that Petraeus stepping down was all a part of Obama’s plan to cover up the facts about Benghazi by avoiding testimony
before the Senate Intelligence Oversight Committee. They, of course, had no facts to back that up, just their visceral hate for all things Obasm.
Now which of you will have the guts to admit that you were dead wrong.
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/petraeus-testify-senate-benghazi-hearings-150408216.html
I thought this was funny.
http://www.nationalmemo.com/closing-time-at-the-gop/
@15 But, PP, I’m sure you are the typical homophobic hypocrit who watches girl on girl porn…or at least thinks about it. I’m sure that does not disgust you, right?
Gah…type, should be hypocrite (obviously).
“…he is BOUND to know where Hoffa is…”
Maybe in Bedford County, buried under Sandi’s trailer?
Seriously pistol pete, putting the politics and commitments of marriage aside for a moment, who on earth should care what two adults do in their own bedrooms?
Do you support sodomy laws? Why should all of the million things other than “missionary position” be crimial acts? These are our laws… what do you think about that aspect of them, pistol pete? Please don’t answer with scripture or some unrelated marriage generality. I want to know if you believe we should keep, expand, or repeal the old sodomy laws and why.
hey justin,
i think you need to better learn to read. i clearly stated that i was referring to obmua’s middle east foreign poliy over the past 4 years.
oh, i know, i know, i know, your LIBNESS keeps you from considering whether obuma has ever done anything stupid, or which ends badly.
hey, what’s up with gitmo? Bush out-smarted obuma on THAT one, eh? I think, deep down, that obuma LIKES having gitmo open…
hey pistol…
wow, what an image! Thanks! hahaha!
hey sandi,
i don’t recall libs admitting to taking responsibility for ANY failure. maybe such a thing has happened, but i don’t recall it.
#5 Good god, Frankie, Sandi’s pretty much the last person on this blog you can rationally and honestly accuse of not putting thought into her posts.
Wilburn, Can’t answer without using basing it on my faith. Its the foundation for everything I do. It is also not the fact that I care what people do on their own time. Its more of the fact that we have a society and party that PROMOTES it, makes it NORMAL, and subjects our children to it. I have a family member who is Gay, but although we suspected it, you would have never known it. He is not an activist, but chose his lifestyle and told me that much of the problems that homosexuals face everyday is because of they way they flaunt it. He and his partner do not make themselves billboards for the what they do inside the home. But the Democratic Party does…
Miriam, that too in my opinion is sick.
#25 I know, Frankie, I’m mighty disgusted. Israel and the Palestinians were such good buddies before Obama was elected. They never fought or dropped bombs on each other until Obama screwed everything up there. He took that peaceful place and turned it into hell.
As if Frank is capable of saying anything “clearly”! Good one. No, your brightness, Bush screwed Obama, America and any future President with GITMO and the torture that went on there. Thanks for the reminder of his ruinous regime.
“Morality is subjective.”
Comment by J.M. White — November 14, 2012 @ 12:54 pm
Then you should rape a goat, shoot 10 people at walmart, and steal a car.
Those things are ‘subjectively’ OK in some people’s eyes.
We all know what they say about why people are preoccupied with other people’s sex lives…
Yes,pp…of all the things wrong in the world, a little anal sex is just what you should spend your time fixating on. I’m sure Frank will join you in your endeavor.
You guys are so, so tough to read. By which I mean, very obvious.
“Daaad! Tom Cruise won’t come out of the closet!”
#25 “hey, what’s up with gitmo? Bush out-smarted obuma on THAT one, eh?”
Outsmarted, wankie? Shrub is the dumbass who started that mess. Are you saying he created that morass just to pass it along to a Dem president?
“who watches girl on girl porn…or at least thinks about it.”
First, Mark J’s toe story, now Miriam talking about girl-on-girl…. Will I have nightmares or good dreams tonight? If I have either, I’ll post it!
“Then you should rape a goat, shoot 10 people at walmart, and steal a car.
Those things are ‘subjectively’ OK in some people’s eyes.”
PP, come on. That’s irrational.
PP, if you’re going to wave your “faith” around as a reason for fixating on other people’s peepees, be prepared for what you get. Your “faith” isn’t a sacred cow, and once you open the door be prepared to defend it.
HEY! Goat rape is no laughing matter! Goats are people, too, my friend.
At one time, it was moral to own another human being and force them to do things against their will. At one time, it was moral to force petty criminals to fight wild animals to the death for a crowd’s entertainment. At one time, it was even perfectly moral to invade another land en masse, enslave, subjugate and eradicate the indigenous peoples and build Wal-Marts on their sacred burial grounds.
Morality, just like history, is written by the winners. You lost. You can stand there and cry all you want; the world just keeps on turning and you keep getting further behind.
pistol pete:
“Then you should rape a goat, shoot 10 people at walmart, and steal a car.
Those things are ‘subjectively’ OK in some people’s eyes.”
That’s why they make fences, self-defense handguns, and prisons.
“Can’t answer without using basing it on my faith. Its the foundation for everything I do.”
So, will you please agree that your positions are not based in logic or reason, but rather, in religion?
You know, we discussed an extreme insurance premium on one thread, but I think the premium some are paying for “heaven insurnce” is the most expensive of all.
“26.hey pistol…
wow, what an image! Thanks! hahaha!
Comment by Frank — November 14, 2012 @ 1:44 pm”
Pretty much sums up the conversation.
ooohhh noooo,
obuma’s REALLY upset with Sens. McCain and Graham for speaking badly of susan rice….who, according to obuma….only said what she was told….when she put forth the lie about Benghazi…
Dan, of course it is, but where does the line get drawn with morality?
It’s the possibility of a snowball effect. If one thing is now ACCEPTABLE,what is next?
I am trying to get White to think about his statement about the subjectivity of morality.
No bible verses or arguments based on faith today Kristen…
Just conversation about morality.
I’m sorry, JohnW, fences were made to prevent people from raping goats?
pp, all you need to know about morality is that you’ll only ever have a say in your own. And literally billions of people will go on their merry way not giving a rats butt about your opinion on what they’re doing.
And now for something completely different.
What’s your take on this, PP?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/14/savita-halappanavar-death-irish-woman-denied-abortion-dies_n_2128696.html
A heartwarming story of RW family values in action. What a shame Romney/Ryan got their butts kicked and were thereby prevented from bringing their own little brand of “morality” to us here in the US. Maybe the RWers should pack up their wimminfolk and move to Ireland so they can watch them die in agony in the name of “family values”.
Moral people do not speak/write as you do Pistol. They just don’t.
PP@32
“Then you should rape a goat, shoot 10 people at walmart, and steal a car.
Those things are ‘subjectively’ OK in some people’s eyes.”
Morality is subjective, but you’ll find most folks, despite their religion will agree on behaviors that we all regard as moral or ethical.It turns out that even in cultures that haven’t been given ten rules to live by, people overwhelmingly think murder and theft are unfair. We are hard wired to judge fairness. Now, I know the guy in front of your church every Sunday lays claim to morality and says that only those whose shadows darken the Christian pews every Sunday are capable of making good choices, but that’s a lie. (Ironically, a moral shortcoming in my view.)
Do you honestly believe to men consensually behaving sexually with men has an negative impact on the universe or on Gods view of our nation?
No JM, Morality was written long ago for us, but we keep ignoring it.
pistol pete:
“I am trying to get White to think about his statement about the subjectivity of morality.”
NO. White IS the one who is thinking. You are not. You are letting your faith think for you. I tried to get you to think, but when I disabled your brain’s ECU (the bible plugged into the back of it), you were speechless. Faith is intellectually crippling America!
@29 PP, okay, I’m glad that you are at least consistent. However, I do feel very sorry for your family member that is gay and has to keep his life hidden and secretive (especially since you think children shouldn’t be exposed to homosexuality). I’m sure your family member’s partner is not welcome to attend any family functions and what not.
But more than that, I’m sorry your world is so very small. And it will continue to get smaller, I hate to break it to you.
I think it’s interesting that pp compares what two consenting adults nights might do with someone attacking a goat. So who’s the goat in your bed, pp…you or your wife?
I am trying to get White to think about his statement about the subjectivity of morality.
Comment by pistol pete — November 14, 2012 @ 2:44 pm
You really don’t want to get me started on morality. You’ll only end up looking even more foolish.
Do you want to start with morality in the Bible? The sweeping differences in what was considered moral between the Old Testament and the occupation by the Roman Empire alone would shatter your fragile mind.
How about the Middle Ages? Is it perfectly moral to burn someone at the stake for witchcraft when you have absolutely zero evidence of it? Is it perfectly moral to execute or exile anyone who disagrees with the church, no matter how wrong the church is?
The 18th century? Is it moral to allow your subjects to starve to death as you feast upon the fruits of their labor?
19th century? I’ve already covered slavery and the atrocities committed against Native Americans.
20th century? Is it moral to force your citizenry to fight in wars on foreign soils whether they agree with the premise for it or not? Is it moral to drop a nuclear bomb on a city that has less than 10% of its population directly involved with the military and has very little strategic significance other than the fact that it was sunny there that day?
Do you get it now, pp? Things that were perfectly acceptable a century ago aren’t so now, just like things that were unimaginable a century ago are commonplace now. It’s called the progression of the species, man. Whether you believe in it or not, evolution exists – even if it’s only used the context of societal development.
By all means, stand there with your fingers in your ears and close your eyes real tight. Maybe when you open them, this will all have been a bad dream. Just remember that the longer you stand there, the longer it’s going to take you to catch up.
hey kristen,
yeah, thank you for again reminding me of the mind’s image created when pistol described sandi as a “12 year old with her fingers stuck in her ears…”. …furrowed brow, stuck out tongue, “fingers in her ears”, and all!
you were there, kristen. tell us what image comes to your mind!
A change of subject. My heart goes out to the parents family and friends of the two Staunton River High School students killed in a car accident this morning. That makes FOUR students from that one school that have died in automobile mishaps thus fall. That student body must e in shock.
I hope they are getting plenty of help to deal with this traqedy.
Miriam:
“I do feel very sorry for your family member that is gay…”
I feel worse for pistol pete. Eventually, no one will care about who that guy is doing, but pistol pete might never learn to think for himself and kick that religious crutch out from under him.
#56 I also feel absolutely terrible for these folks, dave, but weren’t the other two from Liberty? Or were there also two from Staunton River? Anyway, seems like a lot of fatal accidents lately.
@56
Routes 24 and 311 are the most dangerous stretches of road in the area.
Condolences to the families of the students.
50.”No JM, Morality was written long ago for us, but we keep ignoring it.”
comment by pissed ol’ Pete
POP, please tell us what you know about the writers and/or editors of your morality between 400 A.D. and 800 A.D. That should be easy, it’s only four hundred years, or about 1/5 of the time that your morality has been codified. Tell us their names, their backgrounds and what shaped their beliefs, their motivations, their attitudes to the discoveries of science from the Enlightenment onward, their attitudes towards modern technology, and so on.
Dave, it seems Rte. 24 continues its’ dangerous reputation, especially during morning rush. I’m not sure why, since other similar highways around here (e.g. 220south, 311north) have bad places and fatal accidents, but Rte. 24 seems to repeat similar tragedies.
I tend to believe this observation on Rash Limballs’ reaction to the election:
“Rush Limbaugh hasn’t been this deflated since customs agents seized his ED pills”.
Pistol Pete@29 ” I have a family member who is Gay, but although we suspected it, you would have never known it. He is not an activist, but chose his lifestyle and told me that much of the problems that homosexuals face everyday is because of they way they flaunt it. He and his partner do not make themselves billboards for the what they do inside the home. But the Democratic Party does…”
Short version: Gays stay in your closet.
“Short version: Gays stay in your closet.”
The homophobes hate it both ways. When people are out, they complain it’s being thrown in their faces. When people are in the closet, it drives them insane. Then they run around worrying whether there may be homosexuals around them.
#29 “He is not an activist, but chose his lifestyle ”
Seriously, PP? He just got up one day and decided he would be sexually attracted to men rather than women? Bizarre.
This afternoon on NPR, Chad Griffin of the HRC and a guy representing some “Marriage Defense” group were on talking about the gains equality made in this election. To the chagrin of the conservative, a college kid called in from Arkansas and pointed out that he was in his school’s Young Republican group and that they were across the board in favor of equality. And he told the old conservative that it was just a matter of time…that when his generation was running the GOP, this issue was going to disappear from the platform.
Might this actually be one of the blogger on this site?
Suzie?
http://tinyurl.com/baokwft
dave, it seems like every other week we hear about some horrible accident on the roads here.
gdad
You are right. The other two were Liberty students. The third stydent from Staunton River was a mrsa victim.
Oh I get it pp, so we have to build fences from liberals raping goats, but republicans can rape women because that may lead to a gift from god.
Liberals with all of their “Flaming Gays” being proud and open about who they are should shut their mouth because republicans are the only ones aloud to flaunt their beliefs and shove them down your throat.
I do think that you are onto something here… I can’t remember the last time I seen a goat without thinking about dropping my pants and chasing it down to make an attempt to procreate with it. I can’t remember the last time I was in a Walmart and thought about using my nonexistent gun to shoot people because I somehow forgot that I live in a society with people who are trying to live their lives as morally possible in our morals that we hold in 2012… Only your god knows how quick pp, and Frankie would get burnt at the stake 300 years ago for their moral compass today. Think about it like this, divorce for years could get you outcasted from your beloved society… today it is more acceptable. But its funny your morals are so high and mighty, why is it that republicans have three times more divorces than liberals? Are we marrying goats on this poll too?
The more I think about this, the more I know that Suzie is right… rape and incest is a moral gift from god, and it is Obama’s fault that goats are just so damn sexy!
I was just thinking about the little bedwetter at the NYT, Nate Silver. If he’s getting advanced word the fix is in for all these precincts where Romney didn’t get a single vote, no wonder he can come up with absurd predictions that “0bama has a 90% chance of winning” when it was clearly tied or Romney was ahead.
Hell, given how so many precincts were outright stolen, he could have said “Regardless of the vote, 0bama is 100% guaranteed to win”.
Just curious what a REAL statistician would have put the odds at of 0bama winning 59 precincts without a Romney vote or several hundred such precincts nationwide? There’s probably a better chance of someone getting hit in the head by a piece of green cheese falling from the moon.
I see most ill-informed/Elly May/Suzie is in the episodic obsessive behavior mode…”stealing the vote” “cheating”…post after post, post after post, post after post….you get the idea.
“Just curious what a REAL statistician would have put the odds at of 0bama winning 59 precincts without a Romney vote or several hundred such precincts nationwide? There’s probably a better chance of someone getting hit in the head by a piece of green cheese falling from the moon.” -Suzie, AKA Romney’s barnacle
Not really… this may seem foreign to you but some people do read and make up their own minds without being forced to vote a certain way by their preachers and overbearing husbands. You should try it. Without asking your husband, what is your favorite color? If you say red, the terrorists win!
Re: I was just thinking…. @ 6:08 pm
Die große Lüge, a.k.a. Rants & Raves (w /lies) is still at it.
Who cares what you think you “thinking.” For better than a year before the 2012 elections you demonstrated your inability to think, your distorted view of reality, the insanity of your values, etc.
With apologies to Travis Tritt:
“But don’t you come ’round here handin’ me none of your lines. And here’s a quarter, call someone who cares Yeah, here’s a quarter, call someone who cares”
I will grant you that nothing can explain Suzie, but I am asking those who keep blaming faith and religion for people like her or Pistol Pete to please realize that it is a deficiency in those people not God, not faith and not even the Bible that is the problem.
The Bible I study teaches me how the early people of faith lived and struggled. It shows me how the Divine promise of God’s eternal love and guidance is always there for the asking. It helps me to understand what I do not know and accept that faith is just that. It shows me that what is missing or unsaid is to be taken on faith.
The Bible and the God in it, is about love, it is about loving your neighbor regardless of who your neighbor is or who your neighbor loves. It is about love of mankind, God’s creatures and the earth and being a good steward and friend to all. It is not about the judgment, bigotry, prejudice, racism, and stupidity that gets belched out here by those emotionally crippled by hate.
I ask you to remember that and not condemn religion because of those who abuse the privilege just as you often as me not to condemn your ideals because of the abuse of the few. Could we make that bargain?
♫ ♫ “We are one in the Spirit, we are one in the Lord
We are one in the Spirit, we are one in the Lord
And we pray that all unity may one day be restored
And they’ll know we are Christians by our love, by our love
They will know we are Christians by our love
We will work with each other, we will work side by side
We will work with each other, we will work side by side
And we’ll guard each one’s dignity and save each one’s pride
And they’ll know we are Christians by our love, by our love
They will know we are Christians by our love
We will walk with each other, we will walk hand in hand
We will walk with each other, we will walk hand in hand
And together we’ll spread the news that God is in our land
And they’ll know we are Christians by our love, by our love
They will know we are Christians by our love” ♫ ♫
Written by Peter Scholtes
additional words and music by Carolyn Arends
It is not the rhetoric of our politics, it is not that there is inerrant truth in our stories, it is not the strength of our theology that make us Christians, it is our love. No love, no Christian.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrOywJnLj7Y
Christians can get angry, Christians can lose their cool, their patience, and if provoked can lash out too. We are human and we can often sound too smug for comfort. What we cannot do is to condemn the “least of these” or the different of these. What we cannot do is to forget to walk in humility. What we cannot do is pretend to speak for God. And worst of all, we cannot turn people away from God. People like Pistol and Suzie seem to forget what the book they thump actually says. It does say God will judge, it NEVER says they can.
Suzie@6:08
You mean a “real” statistician like you’re a “real” engineer?
Justin True
I’d have thought that pp and Gomer were more sheep guys than goats.
Shill…
I will no longer consider her borderline..
You guys have been here much longer than me..
Maybe someone knows the exact date and post
where/when she wandered completely out of the pasture.
Or was it today..when someone stole her company..her pizza crust
her socks and her ride home?
hey J.M.,
I sure don’t know if I’d call the way society has evolved “progression” or not. And, given the promotion of pornography by hollywood, along with gratuitous violence in the mainstream cinema, things thought as unspeakable yesterday are thought of as acceptable today. What’s left? Are we governed by an “anything goes” moral compass? Nope. I’d say, we’re driven by the onslaught of depraved morals of hollywood (which may simply be motivated by wanting to be the first to push the envelope…), and we’re mostly to lazy in our thinking to say, “that’s not for me”. So, we go along. And, we get what we got.
How long will it be before we see pedophilia creep into hollywood? 30 years? 40 years?
Sandi Saunders:
“please realize that it is a deficiency in those people not God, not faith and not even the Bible that is the problem.”
Perhaps and probably so, but religious faith wants people to develop a resistance to reason and logic that, in my mind, is inexcusable. It has clearly worked with pistol pete and Suzie.
Re: @ 7:54 pm
Well done, Sandi.
see most ill-informed/Elly May/Suzie is in the episodic obsessive behavior mode…”stealing the vote” “cheating”…post after post, post after post, post after post….you get the idea.
Yeah, I think it’s pretty important when their is such blatant cheating in battleground states in such a tight election. I understand why you libs would like to sweep it under the rug.
DJIA has just gone to hell since the Idiot was reselected. Very similar to what happened in 2008. It’s funny how the MSM journalists fail to mention the obvious reason. We ALL know with Romney, the market would have already gone up dramatically because they know a sensible deal would have been reached that would have cut spending and got the economy roaring again.
With the idiot, they’re afraid it will be just the opposite.
Look at that! Eight straight personal attacks since my factual post on the bedwetter.
Dang, the leftwingers sure do want to change the subject from the obvious cheating that went on in Philadelphia and Cleveland.
Here’s Mitt’s latest excuse. Sound like anybody on this blog?
http://news.yahoo.com/obama-offers-olive-branch-romney-dings-president-gifts-225118017–abc-news-politics.html
@85
President Romney and everyone else recognizes 0bama cheated his ass off. Dave has admitted as much by artfully avoiding the “yes” to my question. Same with Dan, Granddad, Kristen, Poodle. and Shrewlary.
They didn’t want to be rounded up, laughed at, and ridiculed like Rad, dave H, “Contra”, Dobbs, Cold, and Sandi who all said, “Yes, we believe the ridiculous “unanimous” polls were legitimate.
“How long will it be before we see pedophilia creep into hollywood? 30 years? 40 years?”
I suppose we’ll see it as soon as someone makes a movie about the Catholic Church pedophiles and their enablers, or Sandusky and his enablers.
Chip Tarbutton quoted by Dan at 9:05:
“Is their any hope left?”
Suzie at 8:37:
“I think it’s pretty important when their is such blatant cheating…”
Sure doesn’t take long to influence her in the even the most benign ways, does it?
How long will it be before we see pedophilia creep into hollywood? 30 years? 40 years?
Frank, come on. Just 100 years ago I, at nearly 40, could marry a 13-year-old girl and as long as the parents gave their blessing, no one would say a word. The morality of crimes against children is in no danger of drastic change. You should know that. Being melodramatic doesn’t lend any rationality to the conversation.
As far as pornography goes, the Indians decorated temples with graphic carvings of sexual acts a thousand years ago and civilization hasn’t collapsed. Pornography has been around forever. In fact, some of the oldest artwork ever found are drawings of vulva.
You want to talk about homosexuality? The Japanese lived for thousands of years without even having a word for homosexuality; sex was just sex and gender was irrelevant. That’s right: those beloved Samurai were just as likely to sleep with each other as they were with women.
You’ve been led to believe that the depravity of man will be responsible for our inevitable downfall. No one ever promised that the progression of the human race would be an easy trek. One could argue that our depravity, our capacity for heinous and hideous acts upon one another and our homes, is the very reason we’re as civilized as we are. That we care and care enough to make laws against those kinds of injustices is what civilization is.
There is no slippery slope, Frank. It is what it has always been. That you’ve been sheltered from it or blinded to it makes no difference as to its tangibility. People are going to have sex and they are going to do things that would embarrass Caligula. They’ve been doing it long before we were born and they’ll do it long after we’re gone.
The only difference between then and now is the fact that you can dial up any act you want to see with nothing more than a URL.
Besides, you don’t even have the decency to correctly spell the POTUS’ name and you want to talk about morality and the degradation of polite, civilized society? Get real.
Suzie:
“Eight straight personal attacks since my factual post …”
How can they be personal when you are a cowardly, anonymous blog entity?
My only regret about being an atheist:
http://youtu.be/wogta8alHiU
#84 Before we can start counting attacks, you’d have to show us a “factual” post by you.
hey J.M.,
Here’s a couple more thoughts in response to your post on morality:
1. I think had Harry NOT dropped the 1st, and then the 2nd, bomb, THAT would have been immoral.
2. I think that had Harry dropped both bombs at the same time, THAT would have been immoral.
3. Just now on ol’ dano’s blog, we see a plethora of personal comments by folks who refer to others thusly: “one of the top tea-bagging proponents in the area”; “tears of delusional tea-baggers”; “your on-going obsession with anal sex”; “use your private parts to conduct rectal exams” (that one was REAL popular, because it was repeated by others numerous times…); “you are the typical homophobic hypocrite who watches girl-on-girl porn”;….posted by …gdad, steve c, kristen, pistol pete, and miriam …respectively.
When such comments are bantered about so loosely in an otherwise public forum, none of us are surprised that morals have gotten debased over the years. I don’t call that “progression”.
Why do islamists keep their women in head-to-toe (no, J.M., not THAT kind of toe…) garb, uneducated, and void of all unaccompanied contact with non-related, adult men? I suspect it’s to preserve what they believe is the moral fabric of their society. So, we have THAT on the one hand, and the constant pushing of the envelope by celebrity hollywood…on the other.
And, I think Footloose was a great movie.
#85 Bobby Jindal didn’t get the memo. He’s rejected the “gifts” explanation. Pretty soon suzie will be calling him a liberal.
And, I think Footloose was a great movie.
Comment by Frank — November 14, 2012 @ 10:33 pm
You’re dead to me, Frank.
“Yeah, I think it’s pretty important when their is such blatant cheating in battleground states in such a tight election…”
Nickle four yore thoughts, SuzieQ.
Frank:
“Why do islamists keep their women in head-to-toe (no, J.M., not THAT kind of toe…) garb,”
So you mean camel toe?
http://tinyurl.com/bzoqp4y
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November 14, 2012, 9:00 pm1 Comment
Changing Times
By LINDA GREENHOUSE
When people talked during the presidential campaign about the potential impact of the election on the Supreme Court, most meant the impact on the court’s membership: whether Barack Obama or Mitt Romney would get to fill any vacancies during the next four years. The vote on Nov. 6 settled that question, obviously, but it also raised another tantalizing one: what impact will other developments during this election season, beyond the presidential vote itself, have on the nine justices?
I have two developments in mind: the vote in four states in support of same-sex marriage, and the run-up to Election Day that saw both Democrats and federal judges pushing back against Republican strategies devised to selectively minimize voter turnout. Both are directly relevant to cases on the Supreme Court’s current docket, and it’s worth at least considering whether either or both are potential game changers. If so, it wouldn’t be the first time in Supreme Court history that timing turned out to be everything.
SNIP
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Seriously though, what do you want? I’m just not that interested in what people do in their own bedrooms (or elsewhere). I’m perfectly comfortable with sex themed joking on forums and blogs, too. We don’t exactly have a demographic of children here; I think we can all handle it and if not, clicking the link is a choice.
I like sex. I have no problem with porn. I don’t care if gay people want to get married. I don’t really care about marriage in any way, shape or form. I think if more people were shagging instead of shooting each other, the world be a much better place. I’m one of those whacked-out crazy people that if I see something I don’t like, I look another direction. If I don’t like what I hear, I change the channel or stop listening. Life is hard enough just trying to make sure that I’m a good person and I do good deeds. Why in the hell would I complicate it by worrying about how someone else is living their life? Screw that, man.
Instead of worrying about the downfall of the Empire, who’s putting what where and what kind of donkey-on-midget porn is available, I’m trying to save up three grand so I can get my wingsuit and parachute rig (and one for my stepdaughter). THAT’S what I’m going to worry about – jumping with my li’l P.i.C. at 10,000 feet and gliding like flying squirrels at 80-120 mph. I just like adrenaline better than bile, man.
(Please forgive the Leary-esque rant back there)
Very interesting opinion, IMHO.
http://tinyurl.com/bgdu5mc
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Has America gone from center-right to center libertarian?
By James Rainey
November 12, 2012, 2:55 p.m.
Many debates have broken out about the meaning of last week’s election, including over whether conservatives should still push their claim that America is a “center-right nation.”
SNIP
But the terms no doubt mean something different to just about everyone who uses them. A more precise verdict would be that the majority of the country remains slightly right of center when it comes to supporting lower spending, decreased debt and smaller government. But America appears to have shifted left of center in allowing more liberal policies on drugs and the institution of marriage. So, left on social issues and right on economics. If you eliminated the desire to tax the rich, it would sound like we had a center-libertarian nation.
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Pistol Pete, do you remember when it was that you chose to be heterosexual?
http://tinyurl.com/ckm59re
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For House GOP, millionaire tax isn’t off the table
By JAKE SHERMAN and ANNA PALMER | 11/14/12 11:19 PM EST
A certain wave of realism is sweeping through the House Republican ranks: It might be hard to resist a tax rate hike on millionaires.
It’s not that they’re about to fully embrace President Barack Obama’s tax hikes, but many Republican lawmakers privately concede that the 2012 election left them with far short of a mandate on taxes, and if urged by Democrats to raise rates on what they dub the mega-wealthy, they will have a tough time resisting.
SNIP
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“Suzie says:
@85
President Romney and everyone else recognizes 0bama cheated his ass off. Dave has admitted as much by artfully avoiding the “yes” to my question. Same with Dan, Granddad, Kristen, Poodle. and Shrewlary.
They didn’t want to be rounded up, laughed at, and ridiculed like Rad, dave H, “Contra”, Dobbs, Cold, and Sandi who all said, “Yes, we believe the ridiculous “unanimous” polls were legitimate.
Posted on November 14th, 2012″
This is hands-down my absolute favoRite post-electiOn coMmeNt by ScrEwzie Yet. It encompasses everything that defines Screwzie.
Hey Rad, dave H, Dobbs, CoLd, and Sandi: Do yOu guyS remember getTing rounded up and lauGhed at? I mEan, by anyone that matters, That is. ‘Cause I dOn’t. I do, howeVer, remember LMAOOOOOOO at ScrEwzie’s fiRst couple of posts after PresIdent Obama was re-elecTed.
I swear I’m going to start a Facebook page and call it, ‘The Caterwauling Catholic or Stupid Sh*t Screwzie Says’.
I also really like how Shrillary forced Screwzie into having to think up another catty little nickname for her. Took her long enough and it’s not even funny.
#83 Yes, suzie, we’re all aware that the electorate made a huge mistake leaving the House in control of Repubs, but because redistricting had been so gerrymandered by the right, nothing could be done. Now the U.S. will pay the price for re-electing Norquist’s minions. A large majority of voters are aware that fixing the debt problem will require a balance of cuts and revenue increases, and in a survey this week, a majority say that if something isn’t done, the Repubs will be most to blame. We’re also aware that some people are panicking unnecessarily because of the negative drumbeat by idiot Republican leaders.
#86 Pure trolling.
Frank, so tell us something. If our morals today are based on Hollywood, how do you explain Hitler? Stalin? Pol Pot? God of the Bible, including murders and sexual encounters?
My point is that you can look back in history and there are more stories and societies that have far less morals than we do today. Every generation thinks that their generation is the most immoral and the last one. Every generation that has an Abrahamic tradition feels as if the world is going to end because the world we live in is immoral.
Do something that is fairly odd for a conservative to actually do. Look at the numbers. Look at the statistics. In reality, the past decade, we have seen a dramatic drop in all sectors of crime.
If you ask me, the days of Jesus, were far less moral than we are today. Why? You could rape a woman, pay her father 50 shekels and then force her to marry you. Women had absolutely no rights. You could stone a woman on her fathers doorstep for not having her virginity in tact on her wedding day. You could stone a child on the outskirts of town for acting out. All of these things and more in a book that you base your morals on, and things you want our society to base our morals on. Um… No thank you, sir. If we had to rate books like we do movies, the bible would receive a XXX, and a R, rating easily! Furthermore, it would most definitely not be used as guide for our children, much less society if written today.
Ms. Sandi Saunders,
Please understand that Atheists, or non-theists, see a difference in a Christian like yourself and Suzie. We understand that people will have different interpretations of the book you and many others hold so dearly. It is the interpretations that we cannot condone. It is the religions impact on the whole of society that we cannot tolerate. The fact that people like yourself are a rarity in Christianity is no secret. Just know that Atheists do respect you, but we do not respect any form of religion.
When people like Suzie use your holy book to enforce an inane ideal, we know that not all Christians believe or hold that ideal. Just like there are many Atheists who may not feel the same as I in the matters of this posting. When Suzie uses her religion as an excuse to say something completely and utterly insane, I wouldn’t be so discriminative as couple yourself in with Suzie. Although faith is her driving force for her thoughts and motives, I understand it may not be yours.
Christians and Atheists like you and I, understand the word tolerance, and what it means to walk that walk.
JT
Respected journalist Joe Farah lays out a very convincing case as to why 0bama didn’t legitimately win the election. There’s no denying his points:
http://www.wnd.com/2012/11/did-obama-really-win/
So Frank freely, and in his own garbled style, admits that his own morality is subjective but still thinks it is OK to pretend some higher ground. Delusional as always. Some things simply cannot change. Which is why they are left in the dust.
hey john wilburn,
no, i was referring to one of J.M.’s signiture comments on Mark J’s piece titled, “bottoms up for the sourtoe cocktail”.
Contrasuzie:
“R…O…M…N…E…Y…L…O…S…T…G…E…T…O…V…E…R…I…T”
I agree. Do you think Suzie will now finally figure out how to read your posts?
hey c’mon, J.M.
imagine watching that as a warm-up to deliverance, along with munchies and some good ol’ sourtoe cocktail!
#90 Good point, JW. Nobody even knows who or what “suzie” is.
Justin True,
So, let me ask you, “Where does the ‘progression’ stop”? I say it rests when, and wherever, the people want it to. What institution holds great influence over the people?
#108 suzie, we know you’re merely off in trolling right field now. You’ve now become a parody of yourself. But then perhaps that was your intention.
“He won fair and square,” Ryan said of Obama. “He got more votes, and that’s the way our system works, and so he ought to be congratulated for that.”
#96 Eye just love it win suzie tries two keep her heterographs strait.
#68 & 69 “We’re seeing an increase in teen fatalities statewide this year,” said Mary King, program administrator of Youth of Virginia Speak Out About Traffic Safety.”
108 suzie, we know you’re merely off in trolling right field now. You’ve now become a parody of yourself. But then perhaps that was your intention.
Yet notice amid all Granddad’s posturing and bloviating, he’s hasn’t ONCE joined the nutso crowd who said the 59 shutout precincts in Philadelphia were legit. Why not, Granddad?
Fair enough, and thank you Justin!
“Respected journalist Joe Farah“, yep she’s a plant to make the right wing look insane and ridiculous. And she does it well.
I find it way more likely that Romney would get no votes than that anyone at all would vote for him.
97.Frank:
“Why do islamists keep their women in head-to-toe (no, J.M., not THAT kind of toe…) garb,”
So you mean camel toe?
Comment by John Wilburn — November 14, 2012 @ 11:20 pm
110.hey john wilburn,
no, i was referring to one of J.M.’s signiture comments on Mark J’s piece titled, “bottoms up for the sourtoe cocktail”.
Comment by Frank — November 15, 2012 @ 8:52 am
His honest response to me was much funnier than my response to him. I guess I’m glad there is still someone who doesn’t know what this is.
Frank,
“things thought as unspeakable yesterday are thought of as acceptable today. What’s left? Are we governed by an “anything goes” moral compass? Nope. I’d say, we’re driven by the onslaught of depraved morals of hollywood (which may simply be motivated by wanting to be the first to push the envelope…),”
See the thing is, that the world is far more safe, moral, and ethical now that it ever has been. If I had choice of any time period to live, this would be it. This is by far the best time and place for my daughter to be alive. At least in western cultures, and you can bet her current job in Saudia Arabia is reinforcing her appreciation for this country.
While you may see moral shortcomings in popular culture, compared to the rest of history we are living in a paradise in which health, opportunity, food and economic stability are far better than any time in our human history.
Frank, pick any period of human history and research the values and realities of it.If you would trade life in this time a place for a trip back to biblical Palestine, well, you can take that sucker bet anytime to you want.
Why do conservatives think life sucks so bad? It’s a mystery to me. I can only surmise they watch too damn much TV at the expense of knowing the realities of our shared past and prefer a scenario when time ends on terms that favor their personal heaven.
“Where does the ‘progression’ stop”?”
The progression is for more morality and ethical treatment and the institution that support this will be government and reflected in our laws.
Frank,
I hope progression of our society never stops. Progression is just that, it is the ever changing and moving forward of what we are. No society has ever stopped changing. Some societies have changed for the worst in humanity, like the National Socialist Party in Germany.
Every generation has the ways of doing things differently than the last. The way you speak, I am assuming you were brought up by the old fashioned generation of the 50′s and early 60′s. Your parents most likely thought rock n’ roll, and Elvis were the Devil… are they? No. Your parents may have thought that Black people were lesser than white people, they thought that women were lesser than. But our logic and rationality of our evolved society in 2012 tell the majority of people this is not so.
People like yourself telling another productive, loving, human beings that they may not do something (Gay Marriage) because your generation thinks it is an abomination in part due to your superstition, is discrimination. It is taking human rights away from one group and affording it to another for no other reason than xenophobia.
Frank, you and Suzie, may be afraid of the new generation doing things better than the ones prior, but that is progression, it is necessary. If you are afraid of that… get some meds.
Bringing up the development of civil rights and women’s rights in modern society isn’t likely to sway the opinion of people like Frank and PP. These are the things they’re committed to fighting. They don’t see it as improvement. Luckily, they’re in the minority.
On a different note…I didn’t even realize this was stil out there –
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/15/bp-oil-spill-manslaughter_n_2136063.html
“The person, who spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak on the record about the deal, also said two BP PLC employees face manslaughter charges over the death of 11 people in the explosion of the Deepwater Horizon oil rig that triggered the massive spill.”
Wow…nothing bolsters the “Drill Here Drill Now” crew like a reminder of what happened in the Gulf back then. “Cheap oil” indeed.
hey john,
it figures you’d belittle …honesty. and, your thingy about cameltoe is childish. grow up, john.
“Respected journalist Joe Farah…”
Comment by Suzie — November 15, 2012 @ 7:25 am
That’s one of the most ridiculous statements you’ve ever made SuzieQ. Even Ann Coulter doesn’t agree with you.
http://www.wnd.com/2010/08/192885/
hey john,
it figures you’d belittle …honesty. and, your thingy about cameltoe is childish. grow up, john.
Comment by Frank — November 15, 2012 @ 10:21 am
“obuma” — ’nuff said.
Glass houses, Frank. You wouldn’t want to be accused of hypocrisy, would you?
Ann Coulter on Joe Farah:
“I will say that [Farah] could give less than two sh–s about the conservative movement – as demonstrated by his promotion of the birther nonsense (long ago disproved by my newspaper, human events, also sweetness & light, american spectator and national review etc, etc etc). He’s the only allegedly serious conservative pushing the birther thing. for ONE reason: to get hits on his website.”
Suzie deliberately said that about Farah because of Dan’s history with him.
hey J.M.,
here’s some more honesty…”obuma” implies my political dissatisfaction with Obama…as if that needed to be explained. What’s that, in relation to “cameltoe”?
Also notice while the leftwing nutsos launch personal attacks against Farah, none are able dispute his facts about how 0bama wouldn’t have won without cheating.
Interesting.
OK, now that we have confirmed 0bama has cheated (as most leftwingers in here have implicitly agreed to) and stole the election, it’s time for a redo. THIS time with photo ID. Better yet, use matching fingerprints or and eye scan. I don’t care what the eff a redo costs. The American people have a right to the president they chose.
We have the technology to prevent these bastards from stealing elections. By God, let’s use it.
That’s the equivalent of me calling you Frankfurter or Frankenstein because I don’t like the things you say or for which you stand. It’s childish and stupid. If you disrespect the highest political office in the nation with immature crap like that, you have zero, ZERO standing to call someone else out on their perceived childishness.
“Cameltoe” was a pun – a bad one – but that’s all it was. It was mentioned one time and you want crap all over yourself like you double-dosed Ex-Lax with your morning coffee? I’m not sure your logic follows, buddy. It’s perfectly mature to call someone out of their name ad nauseum to express political dissatisfaction but it’s childish foolishness to crack a cameltoe joke?
You’re better than that, Frank. Get real.
“obuma” implies my political dissatisfaction with Obama..”
Definitely how an adult would express dissatisfaction with POTUS.
#113 Red State: “Barack Obama won the election.
He did not win by stealing the election. Voter irregularities always happen. It is one reason we support voter ID rules. But even in the worse scenario of reports out there, there were not enough tales of voter irregularities to matter nationwide. This is another benefit and built in safeguard of the electoral college.
Barack Obama won. He won by turning out the most people in a well run campaign. In other words, he won fair and square.”
…
“He won fair and square,” Ryan said of Obama. “He got more votes, and that’s the way our system works, and so he ought to be congratulated for that.”
I’m beginning to believe Suzie is in fact Stephen Colbert.
“OK, now that we have confirmed 0bama has cheated (as most leftwingers in here have implicitly agreed to) and stole the election, it’s time for a redo. THIS time with photo ID. Better yet, use matching fingerprints or and eye scan. I don’t care what the eff a redo costs.” Suzie
Fine… but the only way we can pay for this is to tax the rich. So good luck to you.
It looks like some people on the right are a little unnerved by the riots and general lunacy unleashed by Obama’s landslide victory and are running for cover.
Dan@138
I was thinking more of Sacha Baron Cohen. She’s Borat of right wing wackaloons. Always in character.
I’m beginning to believe Suzie is in fact Stephen Colbert.
Comment by Dan Casey — November 15, 2012 @ 11:37 am
Nah. It couldn’t be. Colbert has wit and intelligence.
Oh, and a sense of humor.
Suzie is a caricature – either a brilliant construct to illustrate the many varied idiocies of the GOP or the earnest, vacuous construct of a simple mind with simple ideals. Either way, Colbert wouldn’t associate himself with something so pedantic. At the very least, he’d be entertaining about it.
#138 Perhaps so. She/he certainly has gone into full-bore troll mode since her/his complete election prediction destruction. Much like Colbert’s character.
“We have the technology to prevent these bastards from stealing elections. By God, let’s use it.”
Comment by Suzie — November 15, 2012 @ 11:12 am
Unhinged much? Wow, just wow. Get over the loss of the 2012 Election – simple fact…Republicans Romney/Ryan LOST. Even Ryan concedes the election was fair…move on for Pete’s Sake…
you have become totally boring and nonsensical…
No, he is talented, she is just mean and vicious.
Suzie, go take a little vacation to Aruba already, and give up this Romney was cheated out of the election crap. It’s beyond old and tired.
Comment by Suzie — November 15, 2012 @ 11:05 am
Ann Coulter would probably be insulted that you called her a liberal SuzieQ.
Maybe Stephen Colbert on drugs. She’s nowhere near funny enough to be the real deal.
Unless you count all the unintentional humor, of course.
It wasn’t just poll results and facts you all were delusional about, it is everything. My God what a sad, ugly world you have made for yourselves. If you are proven wrong it is because others lied. If you lose it is because others cheated. If you get hurt it is because others are out to get you. I truly pity you Frank and Suzie and terps and Pistol Pete and lower case matt and Mike O and Leon etc.
Wilburn, I dont have a crutch I have a savior.
You shouldn’t throw the word ‘crutch’ around when your ‘God’ is that Ruger stuck to your hip
Keep it comin’, suzie! You are freaking HILARIOUS! You should, at the very least, have a 3 minute regular spot on Colbert’s show. It’s just not fair for us to keep your incredible comic genius to ourselves.
SUZIE: “OK, now that we have confirmed 0bama has cheated (as most leftwingers in here have implicitly agreed to) and stole the election, it’s time for a redo. THIS time with photo ID. Better yet, use matching fingerprints or and eye scan. I don’t care what the eff a redo costs.”
JUSTIN TRUE: “Fine… but the only way we can pay for this is to tax the rich. So good luck to you.”
No sane person on this blog has agreed, implicitly or not, that the election was stolen. It’s only the anonymous, insane posters, plus a certain Stephen Colbert imitator.
Suzie, confirming things and coming to actual conclusions require a brain capacity of which you have proven incapable. I think that most of this nation is more than a little aware that there are places Romney would get no votes. If they were cheating, he would have had negative 50K!
“John Wilburn says:
Contrasuzie:
“R…O…M…N…E…Y…L…O…S…T…G…E…T…O…V…E…R…I…T”
I agree. Do you think Suzie will now finally figure out how to read your posts?
Posted on November 15th, 2012″
Nope. Nor will she ever figure out how to read the handwriting on the wall.
J.M.,
The issue was john wilburn’s childish use of the term “cameltoe”.
i don’t see the similarity between my use of “obuma”, and wilburn’s use of “cameltoe”…although, maybe others do see the similarity…
“Maybe Stephen Colbert on drugs. She’s nowhere near funny enough to be the real deal.
Unless you count all the unintentional humor, of course.”
Here, Suze lacks two different dimensions that Colbert makes good use of on TV. One is dramatic inflection that highlights the unseriousness of his patter. And the other is movement and facial expression. But Colbert would lack those here, too.
Debbie, 12:24….+1.
“Wilburn, I dont have a crutch I have a savior.
You shouldn’t throw the word ‘crutch’ around when your ‘God’ is that Ruger stuck to your hip.”
pp, I think JW committed a typo. He meant to type “crotch.”
most ill-informed/Elly May Clampett/Suzie:
Can you count past 10? Here are the latest ballot numbers for the popular vote:
“Obama assuredly will win the popular vote, leading Romney by a count of 61,173,739 or 50.5% to 58,167,260 or 48.0%. At this point, a few final votes are being counted and then all that’s left is for the results to be officially certified.)” http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/07/who-won-the-popular-vote-2012_n_2087038.html
Now if you can do the subtraction [big if] you will notice that the President won [your candidate LOST] by more than 3million votes…that would be a whole lot of “cheating” and more than likely statistically impossible to achieve unnoticed…
You need to stop now, you are looking more and more foolish and quite ignorant of reality…[if that is possible]
No sane person on this blog has agreed, implicitly or not, that the election was stolen. It’s only the anonymous, insane posters, plus a certain Stephen Colbert imitator.
Dannyboy, you yourself agreed 0bama’s votes in Philly were fraudulent by your hesitancy to respond to my question. Otherwise, you’d have jumped right in with the six nutsos who answered “Yes, I believe there is nothing at all shady about the 59 precincts going for 0bummer 19620 to 0″
i don’t see the similarity between my use of “obuma”, and wilburn’s use of “cameltoe”…although, maybe others do see the similarity…
Comment by Frank — November 15, 2012 @ 12:52 pm
Let’s be perfectly clear, Frank: you think that Mr. Wilburn’s comment was childish, but do not consider calling the POTUS “obuma” childish? If that’s how you really feel, then I’m afraid that reveals a deficiency in your mindset.
Labeling something as childish while continuing to do something yourself that others consider childish is hypocritical, man. Just because one term is used for someone’s name and the other is used to describe the appearance of the outer labia when viewed through tight fitting clothing doesn’t make the context of how they’re used irrelevant. Just because your turd-pile doesn’t match someone else’s doesn’t mean that yours is any more or less significant. It’s still a turd-pile.
If you can’t see that then let’s just agree to disagree on the subject.
Frank, the only difference is the level of degradation and decency. Your deliberate insult or his deliberate attempt at humor are two different things, but by your own very subjective standards you are worse and then have the gall to complain about morality and degradation. Hypocrite!
#152 And just think how bad the slaughter might have been if not for all those Rethug voter suppression efforts.
He is right, he doesn’t have a “crutch”, he has a weapon. Only thing is, the Bible they thumps tells them not to do that.
1 Corinthians 8
Romans 14:1-15:13
A Christian has to balance their “freedom in Christ” and their responsibility to love others. That “knowledge”, of what God wants has to be balanced with love for others, meaning your words and actions should not push anyone away from God. It is obvious that Pistol Pete, Lake Claytor, Suzie, Mike O, Frank and some other self appointed Christians here push people away from God with virtually every post.
I’ve really had the best fun these past 9 days watching ScrEwzie’s total meltdown. The ‘President Romney’ Comment remInded me of movie and tv shoW story ploTs featuring some gap-toothed, Dumb as a stump Ernest T. Bass type of character who can’t and won’t accEpt the fact thaT the Civil War is over.
The mOre I watch Screwzie unraVel, the more satisfied I become that I helped to elect Barack Obama to hIs second term.
“Dannyboy, you yourself agreed 0bama’s votes in Philly were fraudulent by your hesitancy to respond to my question. Otherwise, you’d have jumped right in. . .”
If failing to respond to a crazed comment from an obvious attention hound (there is a better term than “hound,” I am certain) implies agreement with him/her, then Lyndon LaRouche is one of the most influential men in American history. I mean jeez. . .
“The moon is made of cheese, ha, ha! And you if DON’T disagree, then it means you agree, ha ha!” That’s crazy too.
OK, now that we have confirmed that old Die große Lüge, a.k.a. Rants & Raves (w /lies) is a loser who welches on bets (as most bloggers here have implicitly agreed to by failing to defend her), it’s time for a redo of her/his nickname and avatar.
How about a contest, Dan.
#75, Sandi, that’s a wonderful post. Thank you!
Yes, Dan there is a better term than “hound”, but in the interest of civility, I won’t use it.
“cameltoe” – childish
“obuma” – high0-minded expression of political dissatisfaction.
Sure, Frank.
It sounds like most of you know 0bama cheated and just plain don’t care. It’s disappointing, but not totally surprising. I guess in my day we were taught ill-gotten things weren’t really ours. Perhaps in liberal upbringings, those values weren’t taught. If you were decent honest moral people, you’d be objecting to high heaven about the obvious vote-stealing that went on. You’d be writing Democrat politicians at all levels, and threatening to leave the party if they didn’t make the election right. Sometimes doing the right thing hurts, but it’s something we’re required to do.
I weep for your children.
I do weep for your children,
I would suggest all you liberals read Proverbs. Here are a couple of applicable verses you should ponder:
Ill-gotten treasures are of no value,
but righteousness delivers from death. — Proverbs 10:2
“Bread of deceit is sweet to a man; but afterwards his mouth shall be filled with gravel” Proverbs 20:17
You took something that wasn’t yours, people. Time to make it right.
Suzie:
“THIS time with photo ID. Better yet, use matching fingerprints or and eye scan. I don’t care what the eff a redo costs. The American people have a right to the president they chose.”
It’s hard to believe, but this proves that Suzie is even MORE authoritarian than Sandi Saunders… and that’s saying something. I guess Suzie was glad to see the Fourth Amendment go via the Patriot Act too. What a leftist-sounding statement by Suzie. Perhaps she is changing her positions from RW to more RW authoritarian…. ugh, what an awful combination.
“We have the technology to prevent these bastards from stealing elections. By God, let’s use it.”
You certainly won’t have to ask more than once! The governemnt will invade your privacy in all sorts of ways if those requirements are put in palce to vote. The unintended consequenses would prove too much for some voters to bear, even the Romney voters like me. You don’t realize what you’re asking for, Suzie.
Holy crap, the cameltoe debate here all day is ridiculous! Frank made one of his typical stupid “obuma”-muslim-burka-type comments and I responded with as respectful and mature an answer as it merited.
Can’t get the toothpaste back in the tube now, but at least Frank learned something new!
pistol pete:
150.”Wilburn, I dont have a crutch I have a savior.
You shouldn’t throw the word ‘crutch’ around when your ‘God’ is that Ruger stuck to your hip”
Dan is right, crotch might have been a better fit there, but in all seriousness, you and you “savior” have every right to FEEL safe and me and my Glock have every right to BE safe PISTOL pete.
The RW is still over-caffinated this week.
hey you guys,
since you all seem to think that John Wilburn’s use of “camletoe” is relative to my use of “obuma”, ergo, cameltoe = obuma = cameltoeobuma! Thanks! I think everyone should be happy, now. unless of course, you are all hypocrites!
You certainly won’t have to ask more than once! The governemnt will invade your privacy in all sorts of ways if those requirements are put in palce to vote. The unintended consequenses would prove too much for some voters to bear, even the Romney voters like me. You don’t realize what you’re asking for, Suzie.
The voting process if overrun with fraud that has subverted the will of the people this election, John W. We simply have to use the technology we have to get it right.
Frank:
“cameltoeobuma!”
Dan, per Dave Hicks’ suggestion, this is my entry for the “rename Suzie” contest.
Suzie:
“I weep for your children”
I’m glad I’m not weeping for yours, cameltoeobuma!
Cameltoebuma:
“The voting process if overrun with fraud that has subverted the will of the people this election, John W.”
No, it didn’t. I firmly believe there really are that many people who made what you and I both consider to be a poor choice for president. We need to promote real character in our young people and lead by example or the voters will never demand better candidates. You’re trying to intercept that pass from the pressbox.
It is God’s will that Obama is POTUS.
It is God’s will that Obama is POTUS.
Comment by Contrasuzie — November 16, 2012 @ 12:37 am
Nope. . .God doesn’t need elections.
Leon:
“Nope. . .God doesn’t need elections.”
Try again. Is it God’s WILL that Obama is president?
JW, on behalf of Leon, please allow me to answer.
1) There was no election. It never happened. What actually occurred was, the president suspended the election because of Hurricane Sandy, which was also not God’s will. God doesn’t need hurricanes (no matter what Pat Robertson says).
2) Of course, the mainstream media conspired with the White House to create the impression the election happened. All those photos you saw of people at the polls in newspapers, etc. were faked. Nobody “won” the election, but all the networks went along on Election Night and pretended they did.
3) Even Fox News was in on this fraud. That’s because Obama called up Rupert Murdoch and threatened to nationalize all of his U.S. business interests — and far worse. I happened to be a fly on the wall during that conversation, and this is what the president said: “Rupe, you corrupt, dried-up old Aussie cradle-robber, let me put it to you like this, from one non-natural born citizen to another: I’ve got the video of you and Paula Broadwell that night you OD’d on Viagra, remember? And if that ever gets out, you and I both know that grandchild-aged second wife of yours is going to cut your you-know-whats off. So get with the program.”
4) Similarly, the CIA threatened to send death squads after Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck, etc. if they didn’t play along.
5) Unemployment has been dropping of late because of two reasons. First, the black helicopter factories have been hiring in staggering numbers. You’ll soon see those birds in the air. And second, there’s been a massive surge in construction jobs for all the “re-education camps” the administration is building. Those will hold about 59 million Americans, which is just about exactly the number of votes the networks falsely reported Romney got in the election that never happened.
6) The stealth gun-confiscation program is underway and it’s been very successful. Have you noticed that there have been no mass shootings since the election? That is no coincidence. And have you noticed that Wayne LaPierre has shut up? He was spirited away to a mental institution, where he’s being kept dozing and drooling with massive doses of Thorazine.
I’d just like to add that it has been tough for me personally since “the election,” because the White House is rounding up all anonymous conservative Obama-haters on blogs, like Suzie, Leon, Frank, pammala, etc. The FBI has been visiting me 3 times a day, breathing down my neck, trying to get me to give their IP addys up, but I have valiantly resisted so far (I think they already got Lake Claytor, Dublin Dawg, Jack McGuire independent of me, and that’s why you have not seen them show up here).
Gotta sign off now. The tinfoil hat is itching my head.
JW, on behalf of Leon, please allow me to answer.
Comment by Dan Casey — November 16, 2012 @ 8:56 am
Dan,
Never, ever, attempt to speak for me again. You are out of line.
Try again. Is it God’s WILL that Obama is president?
Comment by John Wilburn — November 16, 2012 @ 8:26 am
Nope = no. What part do you have difficulty understanding JW?
If presidents are “God’s will”, can someone explain to me what the hell he/she was thinking with both Bushs?
Dan – good one – now take your tongue out of your cheek…
Dan,,,
and yet you keep descending to her level while this
place loses more and more of its relevence.
Ill see u folks around.
Leon:
“Nope = no. What part do you have difficulty understanding JW?”
So is God in control or not? I have no difficulty understanding this, but I want to hear you reconcile your faith with reality. Let’s hear it. Take your time…. after all, God will be using your words to win souls here, right? Choose them carefully with all of the wisdom He has bestowed you.
joe:
188.”Dan,,,
and yet you keep descending to her level while this
place loses more and more of its relevence.
Ill see u folks around.”
I know what you mean. It’s not the same around here. They complained about too many gun threads, but then we were seriously debating the subject. Now, we are only arguing. The debates were exciting. These peeing contests are not. I can honestly say I will miss you, joe.
“Dan,
Never, ever, attempt to speak for me again. You are out of line.”
, he says on Dan’s blog, where he has the privilege of being allowed to post.
Tell us, Leon, do you often make it a habit to roll up in other peoples’ houses, smearing crap all over the walls and then issuing demands?
J.M. White,
What Leon was trying to say with that is,
“How dare you make fun of me for all the crazy lies, untruths and falsehoods I have posted here, with the privileges you’ve granted me on your blog? How dare you respond to that garbage. You are violating my First Amendment rights!”
Snicker.