Guest Post: Brainwashed by the corporate media?
Grafic by Dan
Note from Dan: The following is come courtesy of Dave Gresham, a real-estate broker at Smith Mountain Lake. He’s also a regular on this blog. Fyi, The Roanoke Times is not owned by one of the major ccorporations Dave decries.
By Dave Gresham
We know that a person’s mind influences their actions. So our behavior could be called the output of the mind, at least in general terms. This begs the question: What about mind input?
The past 40 years have seen dozens of large U.S. media corporations merged into just six giant conglomerates. They own almost all of mainstream media, including film, television, radio, newspapers and magazines. The problem is that their major stockholders, typically billionaires, select the boards of directors, who in turn set the management that chooses what the public sees and hears – and how it’s presented. Obviously, the slant is to benefit those wealthy owners.
Especially disconcerting is the pathetic state of major news outlets, which have become nothing more than the public relations arm of the military-industrial complex. The same people own it all. And they aim to keep it that way.
Having conquered our information systems, the wealthy have also developed a stranglehold on Congressional policymaking. In fact, they voted that corporations should be treated like people, while real humans are regarded as equipment and have less control of their government than any time since the American Revolution. And this is largely because news networks are used by rich owners to subtly promote agendas which decrease our civil rights and income, while they get corporate immunity and skyrocketing profits.
We have, however, maintained our conceited delusions of superiority over all other nations, which the propagandists peddle to our vanity in place of real knowledge and compassion. This is wickedly brilliant, since it’s much cheaper for the wealthy than treating us fairly, which would then be followed by our demands they treat the rest of the world better, too.
One proof of this homeland brainwashing is that out of the 30 modern Western nations, we are the only one that has not yet implemented Medicare for all its citizens. Yet our health care expenses are twice as much as those other countries and our lifespans are shorter. Other nations are awakening to see themselves as a family, but here, we primitively cling to competition being more important than cooperation.
We may think we’re superior, but most of the world sees the United States as selfish, stupid and violent. This is not 1945 – and the criticism is valid.
No longer the moral icon among the nations of the world, we are morphing into a military and police state with an economy that is utterly dependent on war. The only thing our nation excels at now is the creation of soldiers, spy technologies, and the export and usage of weapons and military advisors.
Adding to this sad state of affairs, the owners of our military-industrial complex have manipulated government policies to decrease funding and lower expectations in our public schools, which is no concern to the rich, since their children attend private schools. Decades ago, the wealthy foresaw the economic parity that was coming for the nations of the world. So their only choice was to either share the blessings of life more equitably, or find ways to dumb down and cower the masses in order that we accept even less.
Once world famous, our public schools are being reduced to daycare centers and half of all teachers quit within 5 years. Most high school students graduate with minimal skills and precious little cognitive ability. These youngsters are woefully unqualified for the modern workplace and soon discover that their only employment choices are as soldiers or policemen, that is, if they want to earn enough to support a family. College is not a viable option for many of them, either financially or academically, so those who remain outside this new national order are destined for poverty, working a lifetime at minimum wage.
Exacerbating the problem is the entertainment industry, which specializes in movies and video games that teach us to revel in military conquests and police work, or their affiliated careers. These fields are expanding because the plutocracy needs them in order to keep control abroad – and control at home. Just watch television any night of the week and you can plainly see our future aspirations in the programming. Almost every show involves killing or police related work, usually both. By age 18 the average child in the United States has witnessed 16,000 murders.
Once our leaders taught us that adults should stand up for what is right. Now they imply that grown-ups don’t question authority and do what they’re told. No thank you. Real adults obey the golden rule.
But if you watch mainstream news, everything is rosy as airhead broadcasters ignore our nation’s madness in exchange for suckling from the crotch of billionaires… What endless wars? No dead soldiers are ever seen. No dead civilians are ever seen. No broken hearted survivors are ever shown wailing in grief. And always, always, always, we are in the right. To hear newscasters tell it, anyone broken by our system deserves their river of tears. And if you fight against that system you risk drowning in your own.
Another example of the brainwashing is how the owners of major media outlets prevent serious, in-depth discussions about how badly the world’s resources are being strained. And as they gloss over the problem, the other corporations they own are raping the environment unchecked by even basic common sense. Consider the contrast: It took 200,000,000 years for oil, gas and coal to be formed that we will consume in 200 years. The same astronomical period of time was required for the mountains to rise, but now we blast an entire peak into gravel in a single second. These things will not grow back.
The profound dichotomy that is splitting western society needs to be examined – and stopped. Why does the number of our citizens in poverty keep rising? Unable to support their families, they skimp on essentials, have no health care, and increasingly find themselves among the homeless. Yet this is happening while the income of the wealthiest is rising faster than any time in history! Something is very wrong. Only a child – or a demon – truly believes a person is entitled to make 200,000 times more per year than the equal human beings that work for them. But that is what some executives are earning compared to minimum wage. Enough already!
Three fallacies the brainwashing networks and corrupt politicians keep selling us are the wisdom of trickle-down economics, that the wealthy are job creators, and that our leadership protects the masses. All are patently false.
In the case of trickle-down economics, we only need to consider the history of mankind, which shows that the powerful have always taken more than their fair share from the peasantry. Unlike a family, wherein the strong uplift the weak, the hierarchy of trickle-down economics is akin to royalty controlling feudal lords, who in turn control the peasants… And it yields the same impoverished results.
As for the wealthy being job-creators, that is equally absurd. From Henry Ford to the Wright Brothers, Microsoft to Facebook, history shows it is small businesses that invent the new industries that create new wealth. When these companies mature and get bigger, having spawned numerous competitors, then they only vie with each other for market share. If Ford adds 5,000 jobs, then Toyota loses 5,000.
Lastly, the rich have never protected us. This fiction only serves to distract us from the truth that our nation is an abuser, both at home and abroad, and that we have been victimizing parts the world for a long time now. Yet the billionaire mouthpieces of nightly news keep leading us to kill foreigners so the plutocracy can control the world’s natural resources.
Of course, it’s hard to see this in most media coverage because they no longer show the tears of our vanquished. Honest reporting ruined Vietnam’s industrial cash cow by showing the war’s horrors, which reversed public opinion. Truthful news is very bad for the bottom line when your business is taking advantage of others, and the aristocracy doesn’t intend to let it happen again. This is why they pander to our vanity and conceit, always subtly assuring us that other cultures are inferior. That is the unspoken lie that is always implied about the people we kill, though it is only about the money for our masters. Just as they led us to ravage the American Indian for free land, enslave the Africans for cheap labor, then slaughter the Vietnamese and Central Americans to install profit based political systems, so it is we now crush the Middle Easterners to control their oil wealth.
Stop and think. If someone doesn’t like us, how is that permission to kill them? Yet a single Saudi Arabian, living in Pakistan, was used to popularize the military conquest of Iraq and Afghanistan, neither of which had injured us in the slightest. Nor were they planning to. And now we covertly control their oil and politics, while a million of them have died, two million were injured, and three million are refugees. And this is only part of the story, since secret intelligence operations have been undermining the entire region for decades. Yet none of this is featured on the evening propaganda. Once we led by example, but now we lead by the sword and call it wisdom.
Here is the painful truth about our beloved United States: Over and over, our political leaders have led us astray after selling us out for money and power. And the entire spectrum of major media, now representing the wealthy first and foremost, has become the plutocracy’s biggest asset in brainwashing us to do their evil deeds. Because of that, among the so-called modern nations, we are the bloodiest government in the world, and the most selfish to its own people.
I cannot overstate the importance of my original question: What about mind input? You wouldn’t eat dirt and you shouldn’t allow it mentally.
Getting your news from independent sources is mandatory if you really want to be informed. This usually means going to the internet, but even here, caution is required, as increasingly more outlets are being established, purchased, or influenced by the rich.
The Dark Ages of scientific and philosophical ignorance came to an end with The Reformation, which forced the separation of church and state.
The most important thing for our world right now is the separation of business and state.
Perhaps another Age of Enlightenment would follow.
November 16, 2012 - 6:00 AM
“Beware the military industrial complex.” Sage words of advice spoken over 50 years ago yet we have not come close to learning that lesson.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y06NSBBRtY
Dave – righteous rant and I wholeheartedly agree.
As a woman who participated in the “Feminist Movement”, the “Peace Movement” and the first “Earth Day” – going backward seems to be the direction of the United States’ many policies. When women are again fighting for what was achieved almost 40 years ago; when we are still fighting unnecessary and unpopular wars; when the words “environment”, “science” and “climate change” are replaced by fracking, creationism, and “just weather”, I see little hope that America will ever again achieve greatness. Sadly, denial is so ingrained now.
Just watch now for the vileness that will come your way from the Fox-bots…
I have no idea what Dave Gresham is talking about. The mainstream media is the mouthpiece of the Democrat Party, and has been for 20 years. This is the long-time communist goal perfected by Alinsky — to get ‘their people’ in as many areas of influence as possible, to work from the inside out, and to use whatever means necessary. Their ranks definitely occupy the narrative-writers in the MSM. All you have to look at MSM coverage of 0bama, the candidate enthusiasticallly endorsed by Communist Party USA as one who has, according to their website, furthered their goals dramatically.
It should be noted the stated goal of Communist Party USA is the destruction of capitalism in the U.S.
I watched part of the History Channel series “The Men Who Built America” last night. It tells the story of John D Rockefeller, J P Morgan, Andrew Carnegie, etc.
The parallels to current wealth, power and politics is amazing. They basically bought the election of McKinley as President and Teddy Roosevelt as VP. When McKinley was assassinated, Roosevelt foiled their plans by breaking up their monopolies.
This series is worth watching!
Gresham wins the internet today. All other entries are placing for runner-up.
This is why I have friends overseas. I have actually asked them to fill me in on current events in my own country. You’d be AMAZED at how differently the picture gets painted when it’s not whitewashed and sanitized for the “reality”-TV audience.
Unfortunately, I’m afraid that we’ll need a societal or technological collapse before another Age of Enlightenment is ever attained. Something has to break the spell of the zombie army of Americans before we can see how far astray we’ve been led.
Cattle in a pen… As long as the food and water keep coming, we don’t care about what’s on the other side of the slaughterhouse doors.
Re: Suzie @ 10:21 am
“I have no idea….”
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Truer words never crossed the lips of old Die große Lüge, a.k.a. Rants & Raves (w /lies).
Even a blind pig finds an acorn, occasionally.
Congrats on a moment of honesty.
J.M. White:
“Unfortunately, I’m afraid that we’ll need a societal or technological collapse before another Age of Enlightenment is ever attained.”
I think the economic collapse will create the societal collapse. At that point, societies priorities and values will be completely overhauled.
This generation, by and large, has not seen war, as hard of work, or real hardship through anything but a television or computer. My 2G grandfather fought from the first battle to the last from 1861-1865 and then walked the nearly 200 miles home. My great grandfather worked to build the railroad during the industrial revolution. My grandfather lived through the great depression and fought in WWII. My father has seen human heads on bamboo sticks while serving in Vietnam. Those type of experiences have made the previous generations take less for granted and very aware of the ugly side of reality in a way that my generation just isn’t. They appreciate why we need to make the small sacrifices on our terms now so that we don’t have to make awful sacrifices out of our control later. I fear that type of respect and work ethic are lost on my generation and the one coming up now.
“I have no idea what Dave Gresham is talking about.”
That’s the truest statement to come from your fingertips in weeks.
You have the internet. Try looking up those big, scary words and expanding your vocabulary.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/
You sure are going overtime with the personal attacks, Dave H.
I’m asking for dicussion on specific issues and you’re making it about me. Do you feel that insecure about your positions?
Hey JohnW – finally had our closing sale with the USDA buyer! Only took from August 3rd to close…grrrrr
John Wilburn: I have to agree. I was fortunate enough to have a mother who worked a full-time job, went to VT at night and was raising three children to boot – all on her own. I was later blessed enough to have the influence of my stepfather, who was a child of the Great Depression. I was taught to earn my keep, no matter how miniscule or menial the task it may be.
I don’t have very much in this world, but I’ve worked for every single thing I have and I DON’T take any of it for granted. Being poor just keeps me from making life any more complicated with crap that I don’t need.
Personally, I’m going for the technological collapse angle. Witness how quickly people lost their minds during the power failures of the derecho. Now imagine if there was no timeline for getting the power back on. Today’s generation would lose their freaking minds and chaos would ensue. When the dust settled, the true leaders would emerge and we could start over.
Unfortunately, like most spoiled children, we wont learn unless we’re forced to. Bring it on, I’m ready.
“Hard heads make for sore asses,” or “Them that don’t learn, gotta feel.”
Why would anyone bother addressing your “points”, Suzie? We all have access to breitbart.com, too. Your humping the leg of Alinsky is almost verbatim of what’s over there.
Also, you don’t ever play our question games, so why do you think we’ll afford any respect to yours? You’re reaping what you’ve sown, dear. Deal with it.
The brainwashing continues. Witness the “instructions” of the 6th district Republican Committee to Bob Goodlatte as reported this moprning on the Blue Ridge Caucus. As I stated there, the inmates are in charge of the asylum. The Fox News corporate talking points areparroted by the committee in alarming detail.
I read the morning blog post every morning over breakfast. I knew when I read this one without any comments attached to it that Suzie would be along to queef something unrelated and narcissistic. Dan Casey, for the love of G-d, show IP addresses on the blog. Keep your groundlings civil and honest. I would start posting my full name if you did, and unlike Queefer, I keep my promises.
Ahem.
Dave Gresham, thank you for writing this. I’ve read a bunch of stuff on social media and blogs about Hostess finally collapsing under its long-term financial problems but the news headlines all read “HOSTESS GOES OUT OF BUSINESS DUE TO WORKER STRIKE” and Fox News is having a bloomin’ field day blaming unions, minorities, Obama, etc. but not the company’s horrible financial mismanagement. (Chapter 11 bankruptcy twice in under a decade? Something’s wrong there.) I’ve mailed this link to friends. Hopefully they will at least lurk here, if not start posting.
“The brainwashing continues. Witness the “instructions” of the 6th district Republican Committee to Bob Goodlatte as reported this moprning on the Blue Ridge Caucus. As I stated there, the inmates are in charge of the asylum. The Fox News corporate talking points areparroted by the committee in alarming detail.”
Comment by dave
Amazing. They learned nothing in the last election! They lost the White House. They lost seats in the Senate. They lost seats in the House, and NOW, a majority of incoming House members haven’t even signed Grover Norquist’s treasonous pledge. BUT:
[Sixth District Republican Chairman Wendell] Walker acknowledged the GOP is going through some soul-searching and called for conservatives to pull together with Tea Party and Libertarian-leaning wings to stand up against President Obama.
“The party is going through a lot of evaluation of this last election,” Walker said. “We have to take a hard look at it and how to regain the confidence and support of all Republicans. The conservatives out here as well as the Ron Paul and Tea Party folks, we’ve got to get together to build a strong team to fight against the president.”
Amazing.
I think I’ll do an afternoon post with an slightly edited version of that letter.
Dan
Here’s a song for your Friday Drive Time that kind of fits with Dave Greshamk’s post IMO.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ftzjB7vJW8
#9 suzie, we’re all quite aware that the only reason you posted was to rehash your latest trolling effort.
Re: the “instructions” of the 6th district Republican Committee to Bob Goodlatte
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http://tinyurl.com/d4nshk4
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A Good Week to Be Aligned With Boehner as Speaker Flexes Muscle
By Daniel Newhauser
Roll Call Staff
Nov. 15, 2012, 7:08 p.m.
Speaker John A. Boehner has long insisted that the House Republican Conference be allowed to work its will. Now, the Ohio Republican is doing everything he can to ensure his will holds more credence in the 113th Congress.
Boehner is consolidating his power ahead of what will likely be a contentious legislative session during which every vote will be crucial to getting Republicans the best possible deal from President Barack Obama and the resurgent congressional Democrats.
Like an old mob movie, those who have crossed the speaker are mysteriously disappearing left and right, while those who have pledged fealty to him are being rewarded with plum positions and important titles.
SNIP
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Dave G. – Bravo for bringing up how narrow the news options are for Americans.
And J.M. White #5 is on on target when he writes: “This is why I have friends overseas. I have actually asked them to fill me in on current events in my own country. You’d be AMAZED at how differently the picture gets painted when it’s not whitewashed and sanitized for the “reality”-TV audience.”
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When you put all of these pieces together, what emerges is that one of the greates misconceptions American’s have about America is that they have the most free press / media in the world. It seems that most American’s think that Fox News is on one extreme and CNBC is on the other extreme and if they watch both they are bound to see all the sides of an issue.
Nothing could be further from the truth – they are practically the same on practically all issues, for the reasons including what Dave points out in his essay. I should add that the U.S. entertainment industry is largely controlled by the same small groups. Further, entertainment and news in the U.S. are rapidly merging together. Orwellian, is an understatement.
And it is being brilliantly executed. The evidence of that is that the vast majority of American’s don’t believe it. They dismiss J.M. White’s, Dave’s and my comments as paranoid.
Growing up in a very international household and spending so much time overseas, I do see different views and have access to far more sources. This is why Dan asks me to contribute to his blog, although it stretches my personal time to the limit.
Thanks again Dave. I am impressed.
Suzie,
Why so upset?
I did acknowledge that you could be right, occasionally.
It’s not personal, it’s factual.
MarkJ, do you think there are any facets of American life where “Growing up in a very international household and spending so much time overseas” has left you with a feel for those facets that doesn’t equal that of Americans who travel overseas extensively with ever residing over there?
without ever
Re: Bill Perdue @ 10:39 am
Somewhere around here I have an old book Wealth Against Commonwealth — Henry Demarest Lloyd.
Maybe it is time to break it out and reread it.
Ditto, Power and Accountability on the Pennsylvania Railroad, 1846-1878 — James A. Ward
And there is another one (that I can’t remember the name of) about the railroads dirty tricks in fight against the interstate highway system and later their attempt to hold down truck weights. Given PA stretchering from the great lakes to the Delaware River, very limited truck weights through PA would have been very profitable to the RRs. Obvious the RRs lost that fight. But the tricks were interesting and some were related to manipulating the media.
The virus is in a snit today. Maybe it will go away.
Great post John Gresham.
Re: MarkJ @ 2:24 pm
Yup.
What I don’t understand is why in this day folk do not have RSS feeds to BBC, F24, SPIEGEL International. etc.
Pre-internet I used shortwave. Now it is so much easier that there is no excuse for willingly be so isolated.
I seldom watch TV, especially the so called news. I get the RT primarily for localish items. I rely on 20 RSS news feeds, a few email alerts such as CQ, and some blogs.
Re: Warren @ 2:34 pm
MarkJ can speak for himself.
However, in my case travel opened my eyes. OTOH, that was before the world was at our fingertips.
IMHO, today folk can, if they wish, “go there” w/o traveling overseas extensively and w/o ever residing over there.
BTW, the exchange student programs are a good option for helping your kids, if you have kids of the appropriate age. Hosting here or studying there, both, are good.
Warren, I enjoy and respect intelligent conversation and thought whereever it comes from. There are some very interesting people I have met in academia, business and diplomacy. I have also had the priviledge and pleasure to glean keen insight and philosophical wisdom from, for example,some very tough folks who rarely have spent time outside of their home cities like Philly and NYC, as well as toothless ancient Polish clan matriarchs who have never had indoor plumbing. The latter graciously and magically refill your shot glass with moonshine everytime you turn your head away.
I have also thoroughly and consistently enjoyed comments and thoughts by a number of people on this blog. Those folks all focus on issues or the subject at hand, rather than focus on, in some cases obsess, about other contributors on the blog.
I trust I answered your question. I wish that you got all of my points.
Dave Hicks#25 wrote “I seldom watch TV, especially the so called news. I get the RT primarily for localish items.”
Dave – In most of the world the news source RT stands for Russia Today, not Roanoke Times.
Russia Today is available in most parts of the world in standard cable & satillite packages, and is also available in most major hotels. It is often consecutive chanels with CNN, France24 and BBC.
I don’t know about Roanoke Times, but Russia Today is very worth while if you want to get a 360 degree view of U.S. and international issues of the day.
Re: MarkJ @ 3:59 pm
Got me.
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Too quick / local focused with the Acronym.
Shrillary:
10.”Hey JohnW – finally had our closing sale with the USDA buyer! Only took from August 3rd to close…grrrrr”
I’m still waiting on mine that I wrote the offer for and had ratified on February 23rd. We have our “final” extension from US Bank for the short sale on closing for November 30th and today USDA was working on files from 10/05. Here is a response I wrote the lender today:
“I understand and sympathize with her position and yours, but US Bank’s hard and fast deadline on the extension may screw us in the end. We are 12-13 days behind USDA and 10 business days including the 30th from being out of time. I don’t want it to come down to it, but it may be FHA or lose the house.
Per the extension letter, it looks like anytime on that Friday the 30th will work; we don’t even have to be recorded.
Our transaction has two fuses, both are lit, and they’re almost the same length… we just can’t quite tell which will burn down first, the one that will shoot the deal out of the cannon with flying colors or the one that will blow it all to hell.
Any Realtor who says he or she isn’t a gambler is lying. Let’s hope for the best!”
God, I wish we had a “corporate media”.
What we have is a media that’s been infiltrated by radicals at the highest levels. This enabled the unqualified radical Barack 0bama to reach power without scrutiny while the media instead diverted all attention to the ridicule of Sarah Palin. ( Alinsky Rule #5. )
Infiltration of the media is goal #20 of the Communist Party, as noted in the Congressional Record–Appendix, pp. A34-A35, January 10, 1963
Read these 45 goals. They are mirrors of today’s Democrat Party and it’s CHILLING how many have come to pass: I have highlighted some of the more pertinent ones: You’ve been had, people.
1. U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.
2. U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.
3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.
4. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.
5. Extension of long-term loans to Russia and Soviet satellites.
6. Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination.
7. Grant recognition of Red China. Admission of Red China to the U.N.
8. Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of Khrushchev’s promise in 1955 to settle the German question by free elections under supervision of the U.N.
9. Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the United States has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress.
10. Allow all Soviet satellites individual representation in the U.N.
11. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces. (Some Communist leaders believe the world can be taken over as easily by the U.N. as by Moscow. Sometimes these two centers compete with each other as they are now doing in the Congo.)
12. Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party.
13. Do away with all loyalty oaths.
14. Continue giving Russia access to the U.S. Patent Office.
15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States. (Bingo. Democrat Party now indistinguishable from CPUSA)
16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.
17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers’ associations. Put the party line in textbooks.
18. Gain control of all student newspapers.
19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack. (OWS anybody?)
20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policymaking positions.
21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.
22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to “eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms.”
23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. “Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art.”
24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them “censorship” and a violation of free speech and free press.
25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.
26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as “normal, natural, healthy.”
27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with “social” religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a “religious crutch.”
28.Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of “separation of church and state.”
29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.
30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the “common man.”
31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of the “big picture.” Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.
32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture–education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.
33. Eliminate all laws or procedures which interfere with the operation of the Communist apparatus.
34. Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities.
35. Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI.
36. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.
37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business.
38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand [or treat].
39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.
40.Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce. (Bingo. Again)
41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. (School lunch, anyone? School breakfast? Afterschool care?)
42. Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special-interest groups should rise up and use ["]united force["] to solve economic, political or social problems.
43. Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are ready for self-government.
44. Internationalize the Panama Canal.
45. Repeal the Connally reservation so the United States cannot prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction [over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction] over nations and individuals alike.
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Are you liberals feeling like pawns about now? You thought you invented all these “causes”. You were set up by the Communists decades ago.
And let’s not forget the overriding goal of the Communist Party: To overthrow the American capitalist system.
It’s happening right now, people.
the ones that voted against this so called president, know what is coming. Pity the fools that voted for it and will be not only shocked but very angry….YOU did this- you did this and we will NEVER let you forget it
Why did the “Unabomber Manifesto” pop into my mind?
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Seriously Suzie, do you think you’re Paul Revere? You can say those things 11,734 more times and these people won’t still won’t care.
#31 Oh good lord, suzie’s fallen to the level of repeating this right-wing BS. This is getting really, really desperate, troll.
Folks, we are truly watching the disintegration of suzie. Not even VRWC, one of da troll’s very biggest fans, would admire this.
I never take seriously anything that Suzie or pammala write, so their doom and gloom predictions mean zip to me.
Paul Revere comes to mind for you, John Wilburn. I saw the same thing and Joseph McCarthy came to mind for me.
So we can thank the Communists for having avoided nuclear annihilation. Thanks, communists! I’m looking forward to labeling the members of the TP as having a psychiatric disorder.
17# “Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda”
“transmission belts for socialism”
Dear God in Heaven please explain to me how a “transmission belts” can assist in propagating socialism? Do you know what a “transmission belt” looks like? What it does? Of course you don’t; nor do have any idea about anything you’ve been neck-puking about on Dan’s blog all last week.
Suz, I know you think you are composing some sort of manifesto for capitalism and freedom, but coming from a English major, your writing efforts would be well served by not relaying so much on the stream of conscience thing and consider slowing down a bit and re-reading your first draft before hitting “send”. Another helpful tip would be to concentrate on taking slow, deep breathes to assure you’re getting plenty of oxygenated blood to your brain, which in turn helps you to think more clearly and logically. Trust me suz; this part will help your writing efforts more than anything else you could do with the exception of taking a 101 level composition class but you don’t exactly strike me as much of a classroom type so that suggestion is probably not applicable to you.
One final tip, suz; if you go back over the last week and count how many posts you’ve regurgitated on Dan’s blog, you’ll see that you’ve posted by far more than anyone else. The point is this; if you’re constantly logged on to the series of tubes also known as the internets and subsequently clogging them up like a person suffering from C-Dif of the mouth, than its highly likely you’ve become disconnected from reality; your posts of course remove all doubt. Getting out and actually interacting with people is a fun way to reconnect with reality, as it were, in addition to giving you the opportunity to use a quasi-focus group to bounce your hair-brained ideas off of. That way you could use their reactions to judge how much completely off track your train of thought is before you come in here and tragically waste all this nonsense on innocent bandwidth with dopey nonsense like “transmission belts”.
Look, I know we went over a lot here, so for your benefit I’ll paraphrase so you don’t get too confused with the big paragraph thingies;
1-re-read, re-write
2- Nice slow deep breaths
3- Log off more and interact with actual people
4- Use talking points actual people don’t tease you about as the basis for future posts
I know these four ideas seems almost impossible to accomplish and first, but trust me; hundreds of thousands of people regularly participate in on line blogs without expressing themselves like a hypoxic half-witted knuckle dragging troglodyte and I am confident that with a little coaching you, too, could learn to express yourself like a normal rational person. Those schools you mentioned that use transmission belts for socialism? Yeah, they graduate 12th graders that can communicate far more effectively than you currently can and you’ve had like a 65 year head start on them so I wouldn’t get too cocky if I was you
Suz, following these simple steps will improve your writing, thought process and social skills. It’s gonna’ be a beautiful day, suz; how ‘bout knocking the cobwebs of the ol’ purple Schwinn and going for a ride on the Greenway or maybe going to the track where you could theoretically run intervals at near VO max with only 15 seconds rests (opps, see 4). Whatever you do, just log off and go do something fun so you can try to focus on Quality, not Quantity. Go have some fun, cupcake! We’re all looking forward to a renewed and refreshed suz that actually make sense.
#34 Especially not with suzie saying them, JW.
Seriously, I read that crap on FR a decade ago and probably somewhere else before that.
Suzie,
Your above point number 41 struck home to me several years ago, when an enterprising RTs reporter asked Rita Bishop if she reflected on the fact that many kids in Roanoke would go hungry i.e., they wouldn’t get their school meal…as she decided whether to close schools for inclement weather…
13. Do away with all loyalty oaths
Somebody needs to tell Grover Norquist and all of those Repubs who signed his oath, about that one.
@34. Reminds me of Ayn Rand in the sense that I’ve never read anyone who used more words to say so little about nothing.
All that garbage was straight out of the manifestos of the John Birch Society of the 50′s and 60′s. Only it was all supposed to happen because
JFK was elected and the Supreme Court was forcing in tegration of schools and public accomodations. Gus Hall and the communist party were taking over and before the end of the 60′s we would be living in socialist hell.
Oh good lord, suzie’s fallen to the level of repeating this right-wing BS. This is getting really, really desperate, troll.
Yeah, the Congressional Record is downright subversive. Sorry I forgot the link
http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/comgoals.htm
Hey Suzie,
ol’ steve c’s whopper of a funny post at #39 is a keeper! To think, he actually invested his time into such spew! HaHa!
Well done.
This is a fairly lengthy article about the John Birch Society but is worth the read.
http://www.publiceye.org/tooclose/jbs.html
debbie,
I agree with you on loyalty oaths.
Here is the whole Birch manifesto which is the genesis for all the trash that the right wing continues to flood over the airwaves and the internet
through its true believers today. Afrfiliated groups, organizations, and supporters include the Koch Bros. and the Karl Rove groups. This stuff comes right out of the late 1950′s and was the next offshoot of Mccarthyism. It’s long and tedious. But every talking point you will see from the Suzie’s, Leons, etc. can be found within its pages.
http://www.archive.org/stream/TheBlueBook/MicrosoftWord-Document1_djvu.txt
There are some children for whom school breakfasts and lunches are godsends. That some don’t understand that is sad but not surprising.
As for afterschool care, I’ll offer up this lighter moment.
My 7 year old grandson this week, on mandated math games at aftercare: “We tricked Miss Angie and said we were gonna play Money in the Bank–because there’s math about money–but, really, Money in the Bank is a WWF guy.” My daughter said she didn’t know how long their little trick lasted, but they were doing flashcards when she picked them up.
“Yeah, the Congressional Record is downright subversive. “
Any congressman can put ANYTHING in the Congressional Record, silly.
John W @ 30 – Good luck with your closing…lots of patience now necessary with these closings – feels good to be done with it. FHA looks to be closing quicker than USDA and banks. Our realtor complains mightily about Chase and Wells Fargo…problem seems to be very sloppy paperwork on past sales – and without some of these docs the sale cannot proceed…
Unless we get a full price offer on our next property, there will be no USDA buyer in our future…
“uhuh.com” ? How credible.
Frank, I though Ms. Bishop’s concern over kids who might go hungry was thought provoking…certainly that aspect of school closing didn’t occur to me.
Steve C:
“Do you know what a “transmission belt” looks like? What it does?”
http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/power-transmission-belts/power-transmission/ecatalog/N-cby
Obviously, Frank holds stock in Peter Pan, the peanut butter, and that free-lunch stuff totally frosts him.
Shrillary:
“FHA looks to be closing quicker than USDA and banks….
Unless we get a full price offer on our next property, there will be no USDA buyer in our future…”
FHA is running about 30 days or so if everyone’s act is together. USDA is 60+. I have to point out the irony here that you want full price for the hassle and wait of a USDA where that is the only option for the buyer who can’t come up with the 3% for FHA. While I’m the one who makes less for more work on those USDA deals, I still have no problem with this. You must make a good business decision with regard to the risk associated with the delay. But, a certain blogger who criticizes me regularly and wrongly accuses me of “kicking people when they’re down” should take note of who is really profiting.
Re: Dan Casey @ 12:15 pm
Yup.
Things can be inserted for the record as extension of remarks that were never said/read on the floor — examples are the authoritarian papal encyclical Humanae Vitae, Langston Hughes’ poem, “Lenox Avenue Mural”, etc.
In the Senate some have read the phone book, cite recipes for fried oysters, etc.
See: http://tinyurl.com/a978a8p
Getting beyond those, the Congressional Record is a record of debate of disputes. If there is a dispute, then one or both side have some point or points wrong. Hence someone’s opinion, which is wrong, is published — not unlike a blog.
Rather like this blog, actually. Just because someone puts something here does not make it fact.
It’s amazing the amount of energy folks are taking to somehow discredit me for simply repeating goals of the Communist Party of the 1950s. But what cannot be denied is the large number of things on the list that have come to pass. And many of these concepts so routine today were not discussed in those days; i.e. the framers being old white men, the government (schools) taking over parenting duties, pushing gay activities, promiscuity and the break-up of families as the acceptable norm, the domination of the media by far-leftists.
The notion that the Communists would take over the Democrat Party must have been unthinkable to somebody like John F. Kennedy who was a dedicated opponent of Communism and a pragmatic supporter of free-enterprise with his tax cuts. He would be shocked that today’s Democrats are 100% indistinguishable from the Communists.
Honestly, folks. I’d love to be wrong. But show me one area in Barack 0bama’s upbringing, education, or career that is in conflict with the stated Communist Party goals, the Saul Alinsky model, or the strategies of Cloward and Piven at Columbia.
Everything fits. Everything he’s done in his presidency goes in that direction. The goal is capitalism’s downfall. Stick to the issues if you can. Show me how I’m wrong. I welcome this discussion.
kristen,
…so, where are all the RTs articles, with pics and data to support, which note that so many kids in roanoke are starving…to the extent that the school head should balance the personal safety of all bus-riding kids… with “all” the kids who “won’t get their school meal”…i.e., “and will starve!” considered in the decision?
And here I am, thinking that childhood obesity is the problem!
Hey, I know! Let’s just have perfect people have kids. Then, let’s take the kids away from those perfect people at birth, and have the state raise them…perfectly!
Your above point number 41 struck home to me several years ago, when an enterprising RTs reporter asked Rita Bishop if she reflected on the fact that many kids in Roanoke would go hungry i.e., they wouldn’t get their school meal…as she decided whether to close schools for inclement weather…
Yep Frank, don’t think the RT isn’t a vehicle for the Communist brain-trust as well, in terms of goal #20 above, “Get control of newspapers…..editorial writing”.
Dan Radmacher is as far left as they come. After his stint with the RTEB, he’s now with a green group that sues coal companies. I’d bet he was a strategic hire for the paper. I think he’s a true believer.
As for Dan Casey? He’s been there so long, I’m not sure he was hired to disseminate political opinion. I just think his role has evolved that he is willingly used. I believe, like almost all the leftwing bloggers, Dan is an unwitting tool of the leftists. They think they believe this garbage, but when pressed, they really don’t want the capitalist system overthrown; they enjoy the fruits of it too much; the markets, the book stores, the restaurants, the bars, etc.
Suzie… Everything you listed can be twisted and wrapped around Romney and his minions as well. You can’t debate someone who has already defined the argument. You expect someone to have a good counter argument, but you don’t give an argument. You give a dictation, and then deny any and all comments that conflict with your world view.
You are blinded by your own bias. The only point that you truly make is that it is hard to be an American today. One, because people like yourself are so anti-America at this point, you cause more harm than good with your warped views. And two, you refuse to give respect, but demand it because you feel it should be given rather than earned. Good luck.
“59.Honestly, folks. I’d love to be wrong.”
Revisit every post you’ve ever made on any topic.
One of your more idiotic efforts there, frank. And that’s all the effort it’s getting from me.
JohnW – I have no problem waiting for a closing to finalize if there is really a need…I find that those applying for USDA loans want what they want regardless of their affordability. In the case of our buyer, we paid part of the closing fees…the buyer rolled the rest into the loan. I have no problem making money off of foolish people – and since I am neither her mother nor banker, it was her decision to put the offer on our property with no money down. My children on the other hand have been advised that they should only buy what they know they can afford…first homes are just the first step on the ladder – they have followed our advice and have no fears of falling over the proverbial “cliff”.
Whoever said that people who are Dems/Progressives/liberals don’t like to make a “profit”? Surely you don’t believe most ill-informed’s hype…
I went to the suzie’s link. I don’t see anywhere in that link where anyone was listing any actual communist party literature.
I see most ill-informed and company have moved on to a new witch hunt… the ridiculous “stolen election” meme has disappeared; the Benghazi conspiracy didn’t pan out once Petraeus testified, the UN Agenda 21 has become passé; the birther issue is dead – so now the RW lunatic fringe must find a “new” archaic conspiracy entwining communists, Alinsky, Russia, 1963, government taken over by leftists…lions and tigers and bears, OH MY!
Does this dementia ever end?
coming from a English major, your writing efforts would be well served by not relaying so much on the stream of conscience thing and consider slowing down a bit and re-reading your first draft before hitting “send”.
Hate to tell you, steve c, but 90% of the post in question was pasted. My contribution was grammatically perfect and made perfect sense.
This reminds me of your rant about my first avatar. You ranted and railed how ugly I was, then it turns out the avatar wasn’t of me; it was of world-famous model and actress Sandra Dee. Egg, meet face. LOL.
I’m a very patient guy, but this whole “capitalism” kick Suzie is on is getting very old. Suzie has had more than ample opportunity to express each and every point she wants to make and at this point, those posts are nothing but litter strewn about the board.
It’s Dan’s board to run, but I find this more annoying than gdad vs. Marked Man and will take a gladly take a break until she settles down.
“Hate to tell you, steve c, but 90% of the post in question was pasted. My contribution was grammatically perfect and made perfect sense.”
Indeed. Suze never has long posts of her own. Her posts always are short, pithy, RWer lying snark.
Shrillary:
“Surely you don’t believe most ill-informed’s hype…”
No, but it was a point worth making, especially since you didn’t qualify why you wouldn’t budge on the price for a USDA buyer. I’m not the one who cares. Good for you.
Suzie:
“Hate to tell you, steve c, but 90% of the post in question was pasted.”
Oh, that was obvious. Like Maloof, you find the RW e-mail forward of the day and then incorporate it into your own spew as if it is original. I don’t believe I’ve ever read an original thought of yours.
Re: Kristen @ 2:16 pm
Shooting fish in a barrel?
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No kidding, Shrillary…I’m waiting for an acknowledgement from those who have been yammering about “Benghazi” for the last month or so that it was a CIA failure, not Obama lying. I’m not holding my breath.
So much for McCain’s desperate grab at regaining relevance.
Frank regarding your comment at 11:33, it’s nice to know we can find common ground on something.
If making sure that poor children get at least 2 meals a day makes one a communist, then consider me a communist.
MarkJ (#27)wrote: “I have also thoroughly and consistently enjoyed comments and thoughts by a number of people on this blog. Those folks all focus on issues or the subject at hand, rather than focus on, in some cases obsess, about other contributors on the blog…I trust I answered your question. I wish that you got all of my points.”
If there’s a point you felt I missed, please be explicit, Mark. I disagree with your opinion of “how narrow the news options are for Americans” (#19). Certainly the infotainment oligarchy controls a huge share of the mediascape in the U.S.; that’s neither a new or particularly insightful revelation. But when we in the U.S. can watch and listen daily to BBC World, Univision, or Al-Jazeera, read the Financial Times, or any of the other many non-domestic sources easily available in the global mediascape that you’re raising your profile in, we hear the same reporting as other areas receiving those sources.
My question for you was because with so little input by you on threads other than your own columns, I was just seeking some clarity about the attitude expressed in the post you’d made here. It seemed as though you’d written it and others with an implicit assumption of your own POV being comprehensively understanding of all American lifestyles and POV’s, with an added international perspective that you feel is uncommonly broad and unusual.
Since even today there are regional experiences that shape Americans’ POV’s in differing ways, it would, for example, be useful in gauging your perspective to learn about your impressions living in other parts of the U.S. than Maryland. And do you think it’s possible that an expatriate American can simultaneously derive valid insights about the U.S. from being exposed to other cultures, while also (consciously or not) absorbing attitudes from their current environment about a supposedly monolithic Anmerica that are as skewed by distance and unfamiliarity as those you decry in Americans?
I’m basically reacting to a sense I get from your columns so far that you overestimate your own international perspective relative to other Americans, regardless of how specific to only some regions it’s been, while perhaps also failing to acknowledge the limits of your own experience in the U.S.
For balanced disclosure on my part, my perspective has been shaped by living in several areas of the U.S. and travel to most of it as well as extensive foreign travel. I don’t know the details of the “very international household” of your youth, and I recognize that could be anything from a foreign born parent to one with a diplomatic or military career, but I understand the wide differences in experience that description can include.
It is also experience, rather than addresses or received wisdom, that shapes my view. Haven’t we both known Americans who’ve lived on overseas military bases, or in ex-pat colonies in places like Hong Kong, who really didn’t glean much exposure to the foreign experience from it? I sure have. As for my own experiences, beyond extensive domestic and foreign travel and living in areas of the U.S. other than just the mid-Atlantic, I’ve been shaped by more personal experiences. I was living with the daughter of a member of the Greek military junta when they staged the 1967 coup, and her concerns personalized it for me in a way that few of my neighbors felt. My extremely well traveled father and sister made a trip to Russia in the winter of 1969 when many provincial Americans thought that was impossible except for diplomats. Booking my travel across the mid-east and North Africa in 1977, I naively routed through Egypt before Israel, which, in those pre-Camp David days, left me unable to enter Israel with a fresh Egyptian stamp in my passport. A night spent waiting standby on the roof of the Cairo airport was indelible instruction in international relations. Another good friend and her mom fled the Czech occupation, but her dad was trapped by the Soviets. I’ve had immediate family members living overseas for many years, but they don’t deign to pronounce on Americans as though an ArkLaTex cotton farmer, an unemployed Bronx Puerto Rican immigrant, and a wealthy stockbroker in Seattle are a monolithic group with all the shared attributes that non-Americans who’re themselves susceptible to provincialism might believe.
Perhaps a good column subject from you would be your encounters with mistaken impressions of Americans in those places you’ve lived and visited, including the perception you expressed as your own that our media choices in the U.S. are limited to those offered by the infotainment oligarchy.
Re: Shrillary @ 2:27 pm
lions and tigers and bears, OH MY!
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LOL w/o losing my derrière like good old behindless must be given how often she/he has laughed it off.
Re: Dan Casey @ 2:36 pm
Lose your sarcasm font, did you?
“…world-famous model and actress Sandra Dee”
I thought Suze only chose avatars based on their affinity towards religion?
Sandra Dee, though breath taking, was also an anorexic alcoholic divorcee.
“Communism”
Seems like nothing is too crazy for the wingnuts these days. The Lemmings continue their march to the sea.
John Wilburn: Personally, I like seeing Suzie’s crash and burn. Maybe I’m just more interested in how bad the train wreck is going to get. You know what she’s doing and responding to it in any way feeds the troll. The sheer desperation of trying to salvage a dead-end character is pure tragic comedy and a lesson in just desserts.
It all started on the night of Nov. 6th, when the unthinkable happened in the Suzie household. The panic button was pushed: http://bit.ly/RKc8kc and all hell broke loose.
Rather than come back after the election, put on her big girl panties and take her licks like she deserved, she chose to go with whatever you want to call this. She’s an A-type personality, so of course she’s going to ride this bird all the way until it hits the ground. There’s no way she’ll eject.
In the meantime, I’m going to take several opportunities to remind her that she brought all of this on herself and how desperate and foolish she looks.
Besides, you know that if a comment from her is over four or five lines long that it’s just a copypasta from somewhere else. Do what I do and skip over them. This is just a long-winded way of saying don’t take a break from here because of her; I value your viewpoints on this blog.
Want to know where the parrot has found its talking points? Rush Limbaugh! Limbaugh’s view is that Obama’s tax plan will replace capitalism as America’s economic system – I suppose he thinks it will be replaced by, wait for it….yep, communism! These RWers do not have an original thought…
Let’s go to the video tape…
http://mediamatters.org/video/2012/11/16/limbaugh-obama-tax-plan-is-going-to-fundamental/191432
Suzie,
Maurice jones is a prime example of how the corporate media feather their own bed on the backs of those they lay-off, and at the on-going expense of existing employees.
hey shrill…the Benghazi tragedy is far from over.
#45 “Yeah, the Congressional Record is downright subversive…”
OMG!!!!!!! suzie actually said that? That’s pretty much the same as saying “It’s true because it’s on the Internet.”
Of course, this is the same person who got sucked in by the right-wing Romney is going to win in a landslide crap.
Wow, so you are just guilty of reposting nonsensical asshattery, then? It’s your cut-n-paste; you own it.
Anyone else find it ironic that the only people who know who Alinsky is are wing-tards?
Suzie:
“Dan Radmacher is as far left as they come. After his stint with the RTEB, he’s now with a green group that sues coal companies. I’d bet he was a strategic hire for the paper. I think he’s a true believer.”
Translation = Suzie is hanging a pork chop around her neck to get Radmacher to play with her. I would hate to be so uninteresting as to have to solicit attention like that.
You’re right J.M. White, ignoring her is a solution, but it seems absurd to have to tolerate her when we’ve never had any problem getting the occasional annoying fly or mouse out of our house. I view her no differently. Then again, it’s not my house.
Re: “It all started on the night of Nov. 6th”
J.M. White,
I beg to differ.
IMHO, it all started long ago. It most likely started long before I joined the blog and likely even before the blog was created.
There is something so perverse about loving to be proven wrong that it likely started in childhood.
Re: “It’s your cut-n-paste; you own it.”
Nope, unless attributed and within the fair-use doctrine or in the public domain.
The author still owns it. The cut-n-paster is in violation of the copyright.
“Do what I do and skip over them.”
Assign all the wingnuts goofy-looking avatars. Problem solved!
Seems like nothing is too crazy for the wingnuts these days. The Lemmings continue their march to the sea.
Fine. Show me where I’m wrong.
Want to know where the parrot has found its talking points? Rush Limbaugh! Limbaugh’s view is that Obama’s tax plan will replace capitalism as America’s economic system – I suppose he thinks it will be replaced by, wait for it….yep, communism! These RWers do not have an original thought…
What does it matter who figured it out first, Shrillary? It’s out there for everybody to see.
What in 0bama’s history makes you think his goal isn’t the overthrow of capitalism? I wish I could find something. I can’t. Can you?
The Republicans have been completely naive as to what this guy’s about. When the RNC is running ads saying “Obama tried, but it’s time to give somebody else a chance”, they’re bringing a stick to a gunfight.
Romney was too nice. He needed to lay out the case I’ve laid out here. The Communist MSM was going to bury him and protect 0bama anyway, so he should have told the truth about 0bama at the debates so it could have gone unfiltered. To hell with this stuff about “not offending the moderates”. The very republic is at stake.
Romney should have run ads about 0bama’s Communist origins, his communist influences at Columbia, and his Communist influence by radicals in Chicago. He should have run ads showing the same 45 goals I just enumerated, and then discussed each of 0bama’s legislative efforts and their effects. He should have made this into a life-and death struggle, a flat-out war. Because that is what it is.
“Romney was too nice. He needed to lay out the case I’ve laid out here.”
The case:
1) Obama is ineligible to be president (birther crap).
2) GWB was the greatest president of all time.
3) Obama, er, “Idiot Boy” is unqualified to be president because I say so.
4) This country need a “flat” tax — not a percentage, but a flat about of $ per person.
5) The poor in this country aren’t poor enough to be deserving of my charity.
6) Women should not vote.
7) Unions should be outlawed.
8. Lawsuits should be illegal.
9) Workers should lick the boots of their employers.
10) Many forms of birth control = abortion.
debbie,
and to heck with the safety of all those kids forced to go to school in school buses in snowy, icy, inclement weather…all so libs can sleep at night without worrying that one of the obese school kids won’t get a meal that day. sheesh!
Dan, I think the 10 things you laid out are Suzie’s draft of the Bill of Rights for her new counrty, “Conservamerica”.
Suzie
The phone number for the Mental Health Association of the Roanoke Valley is 344-0931. Please give them a call and get a referral to get the help you so desparately need. I’ll even pay the copay for your first visit.
Suz,
You’re just stressed out, baby girl. You need to work on relaxation techniques. If you’d only logged off and gone out to get some fresh air like I told you earlier you wouldn’t have your panties all in wad right now.
Here, I got some calm soothing music for you. Just try to chill out, okay?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4_wXPZ1Bnk
I, for one, urge the Republicans to double-down on the stupid. They won’t win dogcatcher in the midterms. Meanwhile, the president will likely fill at least two SCOTUS seats, meaning his agenda will have positive effects for a generation. Excellent post, Dave Gresham.
Re: Suzie @ 7:42 pm
“Show me where I’m wrong.”
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See: http://tinyurl.com/awmwyft
Case closed.
Still waiting for Dan to explain the diffierence between the Democrat Party platform and the Communist Party of America platform.
There isn’t any.
Still waiting for Suzie to explain the difference between the Republican Party platform and “Mein Kampf”. But there isn’t any.
#96 Frank, get over yourself. Snow days are not what I was referring to. Some people seem to think it’s an outrage that schools serve breakfast to children. I don’t.
Not every poor child in America is obese. Just as, not every person who posts on a blog is the oh so hilarious wit that they think they are.
Suz.
How about explaining some more about Saul Ailinsky? I don’t think you know anything about this guy other than the straw man Newt Gingrinch pulled out to invoke the right’s former booger man of fear, the communist, or possibly information you get from semi employed fat dudes who have a web sites. That allegation worked great for a few decades, but it’s a hard sell now what with the biggest communist government in the world is stocking shelves at Walmart and cashing our checks for us.
Here’s a little challenge. The FBI kept a dossier on anyone who was part of the American communist movement. Hoover was really paranoid about communism, and made sure he kept tabs on everyone in the US who ever wore a red shirt. See if you can find Ailinsky’s FBI file that links him directly to communist party of the US. All I can find is information about community organizing, which ain’t communism.
This is another of your attempts at using information that you are clueless about. Like “self actualization” and “muffin top”. If you had any clue that Abraham Maslow was an atheist liberal, I’m pretty sure wouldn’t be declaring your conservative friends as self actualized.
The phone number for the Mental Health Association of the Roanoke Valley is 344-0931. Please give them a call and get a referral to get the help you so desparately need. I’ll even pay the copay for your first visit.
Dave,
Why the personal insults? Just show me where I’m wrong.
You libs constantly go on about civility. Dan says the newspaper is going to have a meeting about civility. I’m trying to have a civil conversation, and these are the types of comments I’m getting.
I, for one, urge the Republicans to double-down on the stupid. They won’t win dogcatcher in the midterms. Meanwhile, the president will likely fill at least two SCOTUS seats, meaning his agenda will have positive effects for a generation. Excellent post, Dave Gresham.
The mystery is why the blog’s liberals, with nothing to gain, embrace the communist model. Do we all need a refresher as to how much death, misery, poverty, and loss of freedoms result in countries where the communists ruled?
I honestly believe most of you people haven’t thought this through.
Do you think a president raised, educated and mentored by communists without exception doesn’t share their goals? Good lord, these people have telegraphed what they are going to do and how they are going to do it. And they are doing it in exactly the way they promised.
Suzie:
“I’m trying to have a civil conversation, and these are the types of comments I’m getting.”
No, you’re preaching through a fictitious caricature. If you were a real person who posts under her real name and actually did tangible things in the real world to support your cause like I, Dave Gresham, Justin True, Dave Hicks, Dan Casey and others here do, people might at least respect you for that whether or not they agree with you.
If your message is that important, put your name on it. If you’re that afraid, come take my class, and carry a gun for a real measure of personal security. You desperately need to either come out of the shadows and put your name on this stuff or go away, because ALL you are now is a nuisance that is doing nothing but harm for conservatives.
Seriously frank, your biggest concern in life is poor kids getting a hot meal? Get a hobby.
“No, you’re preaching through a fictitious caricature. If you were a real person who posts under her real name and actually did tangible things in the real world to support your cause like I, Dave Gresham, Justin True, Dave Hicks, Dan Casey and others here do, people might at least respect you for that whether or not they agree with you.
Let’s not forget Sandi Saunders, Ron May, Bill Hudson, Mike Scott, and many others who use their full names here, as well as many who don’t use their last names but aren’t trolls.
The trolls are a minority. Suzie’s one. pammie is another. MMM is one, most of the time.
kristen,
you don’t have an argument, so you resort to the ol’ lib staple of belittling. i bet your book is well worn, ’cause you sure don’t think much for yourself.
No Suzie.
What you do is frame a question based on an assumption of some truth that existsn opnly in your mind, ask the rest of us to accept that assumption, and then debate you on those terms. Nobody is stupid nough to aaccept your assumptions because then there is no honest debate.
debbie,
i just don’t think that it makes sense to force all schools to be open, transport all students to said schools, during times when said schools would normally have the good sense to be closed during inclement weather….all because some lib thinks there might be a kid who otherwise wouldn’t eat a meal that day.
i go to 2 different city elementary schools several times each year to have lunch with my grand kids. i assure you that i notice a large numbers of over-weight kids…and thus far, over 5 years, have yet to witness one who seemed particularly hungry, or unduly malnourished to the point of being obvious. the amount of wasted food that goes in the trash cans is obvious, and tragic, in the scheme of things.
speaking for myself, i sure hope that the head of roanoke city schools was simply giving a “politically correct” response to the lib reporter’s stupid question, and would not REALLY consider keeping the schools open just so a lib or 2 wouldn’t have to worry about one of their imaginary starving roanoke students maybe missing a meal on a snow day. sheesh.
How about explaining some more about Saul Ailinsky? I don’t think you know anything about this guy other than the straw man Newt Gingrinch pulled out to invoke the right’s former booger man of fear, the communist, or possibly information you get from semi employed fat dudes who have a web sites.
Mike Scott,
Why do you assume I can’t research stuff the same as you do? If you have any doubt as to Alinsky’s goal of overthrowing capitalism and replacing it with communism, all you have to do is go to his own words in “Rules for Radicals”:
“A Marxist begins with his prime truth that all evils are caused by the exploitation of the proletariat by the capitalists. From this he logically proceeds to the revolution to end capitalism, then into the third stage of reorganization into a new social order of the dictatorship of the proletariat, and finally the last stage — the political paradise of communism.” p.10
0bama was a clearly a disciple of Alinsky’s methods. Why do you think he would differ on Alinsky’s ultimate goal?
#94 “Romney was too nice.”
Sorry, suzie, you’ve overused this one.
108 John Wilburn,
What difference does it make whether I identify myself for the group? How does that lessen the validity of the undeniable truths I cite? My job isn’t to “make people like me”. My job is to tell the truth.
The truth is all the evidence points to 0bama wanting to bring down our capitalist system. So far no one has produced even an argument that refutes that, much less evidence. That tells me the thought hadn’t even occurred to the liberals here before I brought it up. It has apparently upset the apple cart. They, as I, want to believe all our leaders have America’s best interest at heart But the evidence shows otherwise about 0bama, and it’s my job to make them see it. I’m sorry if that upsets you.
The trolls are a minority. Suzie’s one. pammie is another. MMM is one, most of the time.
How do you define “troll”, Dan? A conservative who says stuff you don’t like?
#106 No, suzie, we won’t, not because we can’t, but because it’s a useless waste of time and effort when we’re dealing with a troll like you. Many times in the past people have completely destroyed stuff like this from you. Your reply? Stick your fingers in ears and hum, change the parameters, twist the argument around until it’s unrecognizable, insults, and on and on.
Now, are you still claiming that it’s true because it’s in the Congressional Record? How about on the Interwebs?
“No, you’re preaching through a fictitious caricature. If you were a real person who posts under her real name ………Justin True.
I’m amazed at the people who miss this. I guess John W. would think “Linda Hand” is a real name, too.
Kristen,
The issue with folks like Frank, and Suzie, is they will try to force women to give birth to children that they personally cannot afford, and they claim that they can get help after the child is born. But then after the child is born they want to wash their hands of it and claim no responsibility for their own community.
It is clearly not the child’s fault that hoe/she was born into a low income household, and our society says that we will take care of our own in public, but when it comes down to the truth of the matter, behind closed doors, Frank and Suzie, take issue with these children. As if by feeding them and trying to give them a chance will hurt their chances at going to Vegas this summer.
They want to put a face on for their church brethren and claim righteousness, but in the end they are as greedy and sadistic as any other religious charlatan. Quite pathetic really.
I am glad my personal morality will not let me turn my back on a child like they do.
“Mike Scott,
Why do you assume I can’t research stuff the same as you do? “
–Question from Suzie
Because of the stuff you post here, obviously. The misinformation contained therein, the unwarranted assumptions you make, the rotten “conclusions” you draw — all of that is simply breathtakingly ignorant.
One of my favorites is the pedestal you used to put Adam Smith on, after you claimed you read “Wealth of Nations” for extra credit in a college econ course. That was your economic Bible . . . until it was brought to your attention that Smith was an advocate of unions, and that he wrote they were an effective counterbalance by workers to the inevitable (according to Smith) abuses by bosses.
Soon as you realized that, you dropped Adam Smith like a hot potato! LOL
Suzie
Justin True is in fact my real name. I am sure if you ask Butch Church who called him out on his ignorant statement at one of the last board meetings… I am sure he will testify that he had a rather outspoken Atheist named Justin True call him out. I don’t need to hide my name from my truthful coments. I am not a Catholic hypocrite. I appreciate your skepticism but I wont show you my birth certificate either.
frank,
Of course schools should be closed in inclement weather for the safety of students and teachers.
As for not seeing children who seem particularly hungry, when you’re visiting the schools. Maybe it’s because they were fed bred breakfast and lunch at that school.
Because of the stuff you post here, obviously. The misinformation contained therein, the unwarranted assumptions you make, the rotten “conclusions” you draw — all of that is simply breathtakingly ignorant.
Specifically which of my conclusions about Barack 0bama’s philsophy are you saying are wrong? So far I have heard a lot of personal attacks and general criticism, but as yet, nobody has offered reasons why I’m wrong.
I am open to that discussion. Are you?
One of my favorites is the pedestal you used to put Adam Smith on, after you claimed you read “Wealth of Nations” for extra credit in a college econ course. That was your economic Bible . . . until it was brought to your attention that Smith was an advocate of unions, and that he wrote they were an effective counterbalance by workers to the inevitable (according to Smith) abuses by bosses.
Soon as you realized that, you dropped Adam Smith like a hot potato! LOL
I just said I read the book which I did. I never made a big deal about Adam Smith, but I did note he opposed forced unionism–very unlike what the communists are pushing today.
No, suzie, we won’t, not because we can’t, but because it’s a useless waste of time and effort when we’re dealing with a troll like you. Many times in the past people have completely destroyed stuff like this from you
Very nice dodge, Gdad. But if you think I’m wrong on other issues, you don’t hesitate where to point out where and why. But here, you’re not doing that.
I think some people are starting to see what they’ve blindly supported all these years. And they don’t like what they see.
What you do is frame a question based on an assumption of some truth that existsn opnly in your mind, ask the rest of us to accept that assumption, and then debate you on those terms. Nobody is stupid nough to aaccept your assumptions because then there is no honest debate.
Dave,
I’m linking quotes from Alinsky, from the Communist Party, and from 0bama mentors. Then I am matching up his deeds with those quotes and drawing a comparison. I am showing you exactly how I draw the conclusions I do.
Once again, you challenge none of these comparisons because you can’t. That’s why you go with hazy nonspecific condemnation of “my assumptions” and personal attacks.
Tell me specifically which conclusion of mine is wrong and why. If you’re right, that should be easy to do.
“Mike Scott,
Why do you assume I can’t research stuff the same as you do? “
Because in addition to being familiar with the points of view you express, which are usually the kinds of things passed on by semi employed fat dudes with websites, I also read accounts, opinions, and historical documents from the period. It’s how you find out about the whole issue.
When Newt Gingrich trotted out Saul Ailinsky as the booger man who tied Obama to secret world wide plot, it seemed like he was doing a little red baiting and I wondered why I had never heard of this dangerous man. Being a hard core communist in the 60′s was not a real easy thing to do in the United States. He was asked point blank if he was a communist:
“Not at any time. I’ve never joined any organization—not even the ones I’ve organized myself. I prize my own independence too much. And philosophically, I could never accept any rigid dogma or ideology, whether it’s Christianity or Marxism. One of the most important things in life is what Judge Learned Hand described as ‘that ever-gnawing inner doubt as to whether you’re right.’ If you don’t have that, if you think you’ve got an inside track to absolute truth, you become doctrinaire, humorless and intellectually constipated. The greatest crimes in history have been perpetrated by such religious and political and racial fanatics, from the persecutions of the Inquisition on down to Communist purges and Nazi genocide.”
Playboy Interview: Saul Alinsky”. Playboy Magazine. March 1972.
I came away with a perspective that he was a champion of the “non socialist left”. You won’t find a credible source that ties him to communism, just semi employed fat dudes with websites who repost the the same thing and never bother to any deeper than the idea they this is correct. It’s exactly like all that poll data that was making you sleep so well at night.
My take is he was man who realized that we had avenues for social justice that could be used by anyone. We have the rights of speech and assembly, so there’s no reason why any group couldn’t use these rights to speak for themselves or petition their government. For instance, he helped organize tenants whose land lords wouldn’t meet codes on their property. It was easy, the land lords lived in the suburbs and they owned these properties in the city. So all the tenants had to do was picket the land lord’s home.
What ever the case, he isn’t working for Lenin. Geez. You know, wouldn’t you be a little happier with life if you maybe purchased a police scanner and listed to their service calls all day? It would keep you away from the internet and you could still be judgmental.
debbie, …anything’s possible.
i see that you know the point i am making, thank you.
i just can’t believe that a THINKING person actually asked the school head THAT question, then put that little piece in the article…perhaps hoping for some brownie points with the lib editor.
Heck, the lib editor very well might have ordered the reporter to specifically ask THAT particular question.
“Specifically which of my conclusions about Barack 0bama’s philosophy are you saying are wrong?”
Suze, there is no reason for you to get into a debate about his philosophy. You’re a birther, remember? You get a pass. And, besides that, as a self-confessed black-and-white thinker you are at an embarrassing disadvantage in any discussion of a black president.
There is no forced unionism in this country. Union members used to make up 35 percent of the private-industry labor forced. Now they make up 8 or 9, and a little more than one-tenth of a workforce overall.
If they take down a few more deserving companies, like Hostess deserved to be taken down, their numbers will climb, long-term.
“The trolls are a minority.”
Why not do away with them entirely?
#114: Spell check suggests this alternative:
“Paul Ryan was clearly a disciple of Ayn Rand’s philosophy. Why do you think he would differ on Ayn Rand’s ultimate hypocrisy?”
Suzie:
“How does that lessen the validity of the undeniable truths I cite?…My job is to tell the truth.”
“I’m amazed at the people who miss this [the name Justin True]. I guess John W. would think “Linda Hand” is a real name, too.”
Suzie = Credibility, Inc.
There probably are some women out there with the name, Linda Hand. Never underestimate parents.
Debbie,
I went to high school with a Linda Hand. Also had a classmate named Merry Christmas. Another classmate was Robin Banks. It was an interesting group. Not sure what parents were smoking in those days.
Debbie and Suzie:
https://www.facebook.com/ljhand
https://www.laplandlake.com/instructors-LindaHand.html
http://us.linkedin.com/pub/dir/Linda/Hand
http://www.psych.auckland.ac.nz/uoa/linda-hand
http://rfwklaw.com/sightphoto/hand/
Debbie:
“Never underestimate parents.”
I know a couple whose last name is Butt. They wanted to name their younger son Harry, which is an old family name, but couldn’t bring themselves to do that to him. Aaron won out.
I also know a Joringel Starchild. I asked him what on earth his middle name was. He said “I don’t have a middle name; what goes with Joringel Starchild….moonbeam maybe?” Joringel, if you’re reading this, jump in! You’d be a great addition here!
If they take down a few more deserving companies, like Hostess deserved to be taken down, their numbers will climb, long-term.
I look for lots more companies to be taken down. That’s the goal.
A Google search, reveals there are indeed women out there named Linda Hand.
Dan,
I’ve never given my point of view on the “birther” issue. But I do ask why 0bama has been so secretive about it when he could have resolved it easily.
Goodness, it’s hard to keep these guys on topic.
Mike Scott thinks because Alinsky said he never joined a party means he was not a communist. Even though Alinsky admitted his goal was to end capitalism in America and create a “communist paradise”.
I post direct quotes from these people, and it doesn’t dissaude the true believers like Mike Scott.
Suzie… Everything you listed can be twisted and wrapped around Romney and his minions as well
Actually….NO. Romney was simply going to do what every rational person understands needs done: cut spending. The other guy has no plans whatsoever to curb his unprecedented spending spree. Which one does that sound like to you wants the system to collapse?
Suzie:
“I’ve never given my point of view on the “birther” issue.”
What’s stopping you?
I’ll bet “Just and True” is laughing his head off right now.
“Dan,
I’ve never given my point of view on the “birther” issue. But I do ask why 0bama has been so secretive about it when he could have resolved it easily.
Goodness, it’s hard to keep these guys on topic.”
–Comment by Suzie
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Suzie: Aug. 3, 2012 @ 6:18 p.m.
“If you haven’t been to Hawaii or Kenya, there is no possible way to see the orginial birth certificate, genius. And Idiot Boy refuses to allow the original to be seen.
Wonder what he’s hiding.”
That’s a “birther” viewpoint, and it’s one of many comment you’ve posted on this blog that indicate such.
That’s a “birther” viewpoint, and it’s one of many comment you’ve posted on this blog that indicate such.
It’s just me asking a simple question. And irritating the heck out of the left in the process.
In truth, I am trying to make my points a little more politely lately. I have been goaded into responding somewhat uncharitably, but I am working on it.
“In truth, I am trying to make my points a little more politely lately. I have been goaded into responding somewhat uncharitably, but I am working on it.”
Sounds like civility practice.
More on Suze, accuracy, civility, and hypocrisy is here.
Re: Names
Contest Time?????
Two of my favorites:
Ima Hogg: (July 10, 1882 – August 19, 1975), known as “The First Lady of Texas” – http://tinyurl.com/roj7m
Mason Dixon: “Dixon was named Wednesday as the Wisconsin Football Coaches Association offensive player of the year. He leads the state with 40 rushing touchdowns and goes into his final high school game with 2,080 yards on 168 carries — an eye-popping 12.4 yards per carry.” – http://tinyurl.com/bh47luj
Also see:
http://tinyurl.com/4q35u4
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10 Strangest Names EVAR!
Alex • Monday, May 19, 2008 at 6:59 PM
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http://tinyurl.com/brwt2x8
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Strange but true: 25 real-life names tweeted by Name Curator Society
July 09, 2012
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John Wilburn, I saw those same links for Linda Hand, when I did a search.
My grandson’s name is Strummer. He’s named after rocker, Joe Strummer. When my daughter picked him up from his afterschool daycare on his first day of kindergarten, he told her on the way home, “I have a very unique name.” So far, he’s not received any teasing or grief about his name from anyone.
I’m sure Aaron Butt, is a very grateful guy!
Joringel Starchild, I love that.
I worked for a mail order company years ago, and we had a regular customer named Hoary Hare. I always thought, it’s better that Harry Hore.
Whoa! Thanks for the links, Dave H.
No… if my troll name was, Suzie, and I was a fanatical hypocrite towards my fellow human, including innocent children, and I was posing as a female, but stated that I was against all women’s rights, and I constantly pulled all of my information from junk sites all over the internet, and I claimed to be a Catholic that deems the Mormons to be a cult and then the next day claimed the Mormons to be credible Christians the next…(you know your people own the Mormons now right? NO take backs!) And I was constantly calling everyone around me a communist when all I can really do to prove it is debase someone’s name and the English language to distract all other TeaPubs from the fact that I am really a male 40 year old virgin who dreams about being able to see his shoes, if only I would stop eating all of the left over Eucharist crackers Father RottenCrotch gives me to keep my mouth shut because of the things he did to me as a child and continues to do to other children masked behind supposed good works driven by a dead man that no one has proof of his existence or demise… I decide to say outrageous and outlandish things posing as someone who is a figment of my imagination because this is my way of pleasing daddy and I really just want someone to like me so I can stop laying in my kitchen floor piss drunk off Old Crow, naked with nothing but my cowboy boots on blowing my nose into the Confederate Battle flag and wearing the Texas flag as a diaper… Then yes… Then maybe I would be laughing my head off. But thankfully I am what I am. Will the real Justin True please stand up?
Suzie:
146.”I’ll bet “Just and True” is laughing his head off right now.”
I’ve corresponded with Justin True off the blog. He’s for real. You are not.
As for names, my mother has the ultimate list of hilarious verifiable names that she has been compiling for many years. My personal favorite: A foreign student named Phuc Ho.
More on Suze, accuracy, civility, and hypocrisy is here.
Showing those predictions is a little unfair, Dan, since I and the other sage prognosticators who ended up picking Romney handily assumed fair elections. And as we have proven– with the hundreds of precincts in battleground states where 0bama showed 99% of the vote–that was clearly not the case.
Justin True, here’s a high five! Steve C should be proud!
John Wilburn. High fives all around Brother!
Only losers blame the officiating.
Justin True,
i’ll wave off all your other baseless attacks, which I guess is your idea of ‘civility’, but I will address the Mormon one. Never have I called it a cult.
John Wilburn. High fives all around Brother!
John Wl, I had considered taking some of your criticisms as sincere, but your concurrence on Justin True’s hateful garbages makes me reconsider. I’m disappointed.
Debbie, years ago not long after I’d moved here, there was a bith announcement in the paper headined “Butt Birth”. Some people named Butt had had a baby and that’s how it came out in the paper. Oy.
DaveH, when the law is against you, argue the facts. When the facts are against you, argue the law. When the law and the facts are against you, insult the other lawyer.
Awww… poor, Suzie. I would like to say that I feel bad, but considering the garbage you sling on a daily basis, that is in fact baseless, you won’t find any shelter here.
The only criticism that you will consider taking is from your local parish… when they dictate what color knee pads to wear with your dress.
Suzie, your silence during the days when all Christians, mainly Catholics and Baptists alike referred to the Mormon superstition as a cult, you were in agreement. Do you not feel that silence is agreement? Do you have any knowledge of the Mormon church and how it is ran in these United States?
Justin – nice !!
Suzie:
“John Wl, I had considered taking some of your criticisms as sincere, but your concurrence on Justin True’s hateful garbages makes me reconsider. I’m disappointed.”
Suzie, you’re a grown woman. Making this lame excuse to not clean up your act is pitiful. You either will or you won’t. It would be different if you were truly dumb, but you’re not. You’re just bright enough to learn, but just prideful enough to resist it.
Time will tell….
I want the real “Suzie”, whoever you really are to start posting here and come to the next gonzo gathering too. I will welcome you. You also couldn’t really be considered a troll anymore either. IMO, it’s better to live that way than to be constrained by protecting your anonymity. While you can post here, you can reply privatey if you would rather john@chpclass.com
Kristen, You just made my day, because I saw the same announcement! If people don’t believe you, I can back it up, because I’ve saved that clipping! I considered sending it in to Leno, but it was just too good to part with. “Butt birth” with a picture of the older sibling snuggling the newborn.
hey Kristen,
I saw that same announcement…I think they lived on a certain road west of Salem…
Warren, I checked the archives and couldn’t find it, so I’m glad to have some backup because I’m sure it’s hard to believe and I have no proof (other than my stunned memory).
I thought about sending it to Leno too, then thought of that older kid and how excited they probably all were, and couldn’t do it. Had that been my family’s birth announcement, I would not have been happy.
I think that the persona known as “Suzie” has someone different posting under that name. The style of writing, the wordage and even the sentence structure are completely different than those in the past…even the word moron has become rather rare…quite scary…a metamorphosis?
No, Frank, they didn’t live on Butt Hollow Road, and that road’s name is a really tired and lame subject for humor, unless one is under ten years old. But then, you constantly do seem impressed with your own “wit”.
Kristen, I’ll check it in a little while and give you the date. There’s so many things that one might save, but it’s too possible to soon become like the nice old person with an apartment full of yellowed clippings of totally dated Sidney Harris columns or something. The ‘net’s archiving probably gives us a false sense of recoverability, though. BTW, whatever happened to the “cache” feature on google results, anyway?
I do remember when Leno showed the RT picture of a third term pregnant woman in SE Rke. complaining about the dust from the street work while smoking a cigarette. I wonder how that kid’s doing?
Kristen,
When you saw that announcement, did you wonder what kind of place have I moved to?
Shrillary,
I noticed the same thing… Suzie went from completely intolerant, and ignorant… to just being closed-minded and ignorant with a hint of civility… I think she must have had a kid and calmed down a little. Ya think?
hey warren,
seems to me that you threw your …butt… right into the discussion. ya like to do that, doncha?
hey Kristen,
for once, you are the voice of reason. don’t let it go to your head…