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		<title>By: gdad</title>
		<link>http://blogs.roanoke.com/dancasey/2012/11/how-ignorant-people-took-control-of-the-gop/#comment-243590</link>
		<dc:creator>gdad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2012 14:27:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#62 Aiyeeeee, work nanny pammalalala is back!!!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#62 Aiyeeeee, work nanny pammalalala is back!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Sandi Saunders</title>
		<link>http://blogs.roanoke.com/dancasey/2012/11/how-ignorant-people-took-control-of-the-gop/#comment-243344</link>
		<dc:creator>Sandi Saunders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2012 01:17:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Long term party &quot;shifts&quot; have more to do with the party in power when the Census comes out and districts are re-drawn than &quot;grass-roots&quot; at the state level and even in Congressional elections (the House for instance).

Obama&#039;s &quot;skill&quot; is not as problematic as the right wing death grip on issues that matter.  He is making headway where none would have been possible, and the intransigence in Congress has and will continue to backfire (that is my fervent hope).  You think Reagan&#039;s deal making and so called consensus was a good thing, in truth it brought about the beginning of the end for the American economy.  Why you all are so all fired enamored of that, truly remains a mystery.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Long term party &#8220;shifts&#8221; have more to do with the party in power when the Census comes out and districts are re-drawn than &#8220;grass-roots&#8221; at the state level and even in Congressional elections (the House for instance).</p>
<p>Obama&#8217;s &#8220;skill&#8221; is not as problematic as the right wing death grip on issues that matter.  He is making headway where none would have been possible, and the intransigence in Congress has and will continue to backfire (that is my fervent hope).  You think Reagan&#8217;s deal making and so called consensus was a good thing, in truth it brought about the beginning of the end for the American economy.  Why you all are so all fired enamored of that, truly remains a mystery.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkJ</title>
		<link>http://blogs.roanoke.com/dancasey/2012/11/how-ignorant-people-took-control-of-the-gop/#comment-243296</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2012 22:29:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sandi#65, when you describe how Reagan managed this bloc and his coallition building and his working with the opposition, compared to how Gingrich did it in the post Reagan era...I fully agree, and my essay is consistent with you on this particular point.

Obama would be a much more successful president if he could only grasp some of these skills that Reagan had.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sandi#65, when you describe how Reagan managed this bloc and his coallition building and his working with the opposition, compared to how Gingrich did it in the post Reagan era&#8230;I fully agree, and my essay is consistent with you on this particular point.</p>
<p>Obama would be a much more successful president if he could only grasp some of these skills that Reagan had.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkJ</title>
		<link>http://blogs.roanoke.com/dancasey/2012/11/how-ignorant-people-took-control-of-the-gop/#comment-243291</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2012 22:23:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sandi#65, when examining this subject, one must look much deeper than the once-in-four-years presidential elections results.  

For example, there were sweeps like Nixon is 1972 and Reagan in 1984, but that does not mean that the blue state infrastructure disappeared in the entire country durng those eras.

More meaningful when studying long term party shifts is what is happening from grass roots, to state government to Congressional and Senate representation, all combined.  Taking those parameters into consideration, meaningful trend lines start to emerge.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sandi#65, when examining this subject, one must look much deeper than the once-in-four-years presidential elections results.  </p>
<p>For example, there were sweeps like Nixon is 1972 and Reagan in 1984, but that does not mean that the blue state infrastructure disappeared in the entire country durng those eras.</p>
<p>More meaningful when studying long term party shifts is what is happening from grass roots, to state government to Congressional and Senate representation, all combined.  Taking those parameters into consideration, meaningful trend lines start to emerge.</p>
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		<title>By: Sandi Saunders</title>
		<link>http://blogs.roanoke.com/dancasey/2012/11/how-ignorant-people-took-control-of-the-gop/#comment-243240</link>
		<dc:creator>Sandi Saunders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2012 19:40:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Another thing that does not favor the idea that Reagan cemented the &quot;solid south&quot; is the Clinton elections in 1992 and 1996.  He won some of those states both times. 

Also, the division and bitter partisanship in Congress has more to do with the divide than the red state/blue state elections ever did and THAT started with Gingrich and it was deliberate.  Reagan got Dems to work with him, Gingrich forced them to choose a side as he drove wedges that may never be healed and gerrymandering did the rest.  Besides which, Obama has proven, twice now, that only Republicans &quot;need&quot; the south to win.

And finally, the very argument Mark J uses to assist his argument is the rant about the social issues ignorant people who spoiled the party have used.  THAT is pure, unvarnished, unadulterated Gingrich, not Reagan.

I despised Reagan&#039;s politics, policy, duplicity and faux populism but I will not blame him for the ignorant people Gingrich et al beat the bushes to bring in and have been hamstrung with ever since.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another thing that does not favor the idea that Reagan cemented the &#8220;solid south&#8221; is the Clinton elections in 1992 and 1996.  He won some of those states both times. </p>
<p>Also, the division and bitter partisanship in Congress has more to do with the divide than the red state/blue state elections ever did and THAT started with Gingrich and it was deliberate.  Reagan got Dems to work with him, Gingrich forced them to choose a side as he drove wedges that may never be healed and gerrymandering did the rest.  Besides which, Obama has proven, twice now, that only Republicans &#8220;need&#8221; the south to win.</p>
<p>And finally, the very argument Mark J uses to assist his argument is the rant about the social issues ignorant people who spoiled the party have used.  THAT is pure, unvarnished, unadulterated Gingrich, not Reagan.</p>
<p>I despised Reagan&#8217;s politics, policy, duplicity and faux populism but I will not blame him for the ignorant people Gingrich et al beat the bushes to bring in and have been hamstrung with ever since.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkJ</title>
		<link>http://blogs.roanoke.com/dancasey/2012/11/how-ignorant-people-took-control-of-the-gop/#comment-243239</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2012 19:36:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dave#63, Oh Dave! Are you sure its OK to say things like that?  

Thanks for the comment.  I wish you and yours a Happy Thanksgiving.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave#63, Oh Dave! Are you sure its OK to say things like that?  </p>
<p>Thanks for the comment.  I wish you and yours a Happy Thanksgiving.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Gresham</title>
		<link>http://blogs.roanoke.com/dancasey/2012/11/how-ignorant-people-took-control-of-the-gop/#comment-243218</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Gresham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2012 18:11:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mark J #60… Please spare us the propaganda wherein you say, “…our number one ally, Israel....”

Isreal is certainly NOT our number #1 ally. That title belongs to the British for a long time now. Moreover, I would say the Canadians and even the French are much better friends… Israel is merely our new partner in war crime.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark J #60… Please spare us the propaganda wherein you say, “…our number one ally, Israel&#8230;.”</p>
<p>Isreal is certainly NOT our number #1 ally. That title belongs to the British for a long time now. Moreover, I would say the Canadians and even the French are much better friends… Israel is merely our new partner in war crime.</p>
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		<title>By: pammala</title>
		<link>http://blogs.roanoke.com/dancasey/2012/11/how-ignorant-people-took-control-of-the-gop/#comment-243124</link>
		<dc:creator>pammala</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2012 13:39:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[once the admin of communists get the internet under their control, I wonder if old sandi will be able to blog all day at work, instead of, uh, actually WORKING...hmmmmmm]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>once the admin of communists get the internet under their control, I wonder if old sandi will be able to blog all day at work, instead of, uh, actually WORKING&#8230;hmmmmmm</p>
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		<title>By: Suzie</title>
		<link>http://blogs.roanoke.com/dancasey/2012/11/how-ignorant-people-took-control-of-the-gop/#comment-243100</link>
		<dc:creator>Suzie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2012 12:19:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;From what I’ve noticed, a lot of people who grew up in the 50′s &amp; 60′s hold that belief, including my dad…who is absolutely convinced that Obama is towing the line of the Democratic Socialists and/or the CPUSA. &lt;/em&gt;

OJ,
  Initially I hadn&#039;t thought that, but now as I look,  everything fits.  0bama&#039;s background:  born to communist parents, raised by communists,  mentored by communists,  educated by communists.   And now governing in a manner that could only suggest a desire to &lt;em&gt;intentionally&lt;/em&gt; bring down capitalism.

  How else could you explain a president who has increased the deficit more than any other president and displays no signs of stopping?  How else could you explain a president who actually recruits people to get on public assistance?  How could you explain a media that totally ignored his background and his irresponsible spending while hyperfocusing and destroying any conservative that could pose a threat.

Look what&#039;s happening to Marco Rubio,  the presumed GOP front-runner now?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>From what I’ve noticed, a lot of people who grew up in the 50′s &amp; 60′s hold that belief, including my dad…who is absolutely convinced that Obama is towing the line of the Democratic Socialists and/or the CPUSA. </em></p>
<p>OJ,<br />
  Initially I hadn&#8217;t thought that, but now as I look,  everything fits.  0bama&#8217;s background:  born to communist parents, raised by communists,  mentored by communists,  educated by communists.   And now governing in a manner that could only suggest a desire to <em>intentionally</em> bring down capitalism.</p>
<p>  How else could you explain a president who has increased the deficit more than any other president and displays no signs of stopping?  How else could you explain a president who actually recruits people to get on public assistance?  How could you explain a media that totally ignored his background and his irresponsible spending while hyperfocusing and destroying any conservative that could pose a threat.</p>
<p>Look what&#8217;s happening to Marco Rubio,  the presumed GOP front-runner now?</p>
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		<title>By: MarkJ</title>
		<link>http://blogs.roanoke.com/dancasey/2012/11/how-ignorant-people-took-control-of-the-gop/#comment-243005</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2012 08:27:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[MikeO#53 - I think the right wingers should consider your suggestion.  If the land of opportunity is defined primarily by:
- very low taxes, 
- low government investment in safety nets, 
- opportunities to rise from nothing to a billionaire
- vast resource rich empty lands far from the reach of the capitol,

then Russia is at or near the top of the list!  Might be a more useful language to offer in schools these days than French or German, which have been losing their importants since WW II.

The Right&#039;s neocon wing and Christian Zionist wing could take as an example our number one ally, Israel, which is trilingual country - Hebrew, English, and Russian.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MikeO#53 &#8211; I think the right wingers should consider your suggestion.  If the land of opportunity is defined primarily by:<br />
- very low taxes,<br />
- low government investment in safety nets,<br />
- opportunities to rise from nothing to a billionaire<br />
- vast resource rich empty lands far from the reach of the capitol,</p>
<p>then Russia is at or near the top of the list!  Might be a more useful language to offer in schools these days than French or German, which have been losing their importants since WW II.</p>
<p>The Right&#8217;s neocon wing and Christian Zionist wing could take as an example our number one ally, Israel, which is trilingual country &#8211; Hebrew, English, and Russian.</p>
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