Permanent ink on the Thursday OPEN thread
Shot by Dan in Vinton
“Without a doubt, first thing we should do is clean up our fiscal house, and that starts with balancing our budgets and digging out of this red ink. We cannot expect to continue in this fashion and remain the leader of the free world.”
Marcy Kaptur
November 8, 2012 - 9:59 AM
Let’s be sure to enjoy what’s happening in Europe as we go marching down our fiscal path of financial insanity…which is leading us down the same path Europe is on…they’re just further ahead of us.
I know! let’s “out Europe”…Europe! Hey, we can do it! obumee’s aca will give us a giant leap forward! They’re a bunch of pikers over there, anyway! We’ll show’em how it’s done, by golly!
Yep, four more years. Europe, here we come.
Looks like even Rush Limbaugh finally understands what happened Tuesday.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/11/07/rush-limbaugh-eats-humble-pie-we-are-outnumbered-and-we-are-losing-ground/
It was stunning to see how the Republican ideology lost the White House for a second time in four years. It was the Republican ideology that lost those additional seats gained by Democrats in the Senate. Why?
More Americans, than not, saw through the well financed lies and distortions. Republicans learned a hard lesson – not all Americans watch Faux News, listen to Limbaugh and Beck, nor buy into the RW media blitz of hatred toward the President. Money will not buy trustworthy candidates, common sense, good instincts, patriotism, nor votes – clearly in defiance of the Citizens United ruling.
More than half of Americans by their votes, acknowledged the work done, on their behalf, by this President in the face of unprecedented obstructionism. By their votes, Americans demonstrated a willingness to support first responders and teachers whether they are unionized or not; Americans want and are willing to preserve our parks, national forests, and national treasures; Americans want improvements in infrastructure, environmental protection, and to move toward clean energy; by their vote, most Americans don’t begrudge the social safety nets in place for children, elderly or the poor and do want the wealthy to pay their “fair share”; Americans saw the benefit of not allowing an iconic American industry to go bankrupt; and finally, by their votes, both women, and the men who love them, sent the clear message of outrage and disgust at the assault on the rights of women to follow their own beliefs and destinies – whether by paycheck fairness or abortion rights.
The last laugh, of course is the unprecedented number of women who will now be seated in the 2013 US Senate – women willing to “take back” not only our country from the lunatic fringe of the republican party, but to give no quarter in those hard fought battles which won our right to control our own bodies.
I know someone who works there, or at least did work there for a while.
LOL, Tim at Cherry Bomb did my Eeyore tattoo!
Anyone who asks to see Sandi’s tattoo is going to get an eyeful.
My daughter and I had our tattoos done by Daniel at Asylum. He does amazing work.
I was so distressed this morning when I read you article about Dr. David Kilmer. My sister and I were patients of his a few years ago and he was always so nice, kind, considerate, and did a good job. He obviously had great technical knowledge and helped, ofterred ssuggestions as much as he could. I can certainly sympathize with him and his sweet family. My nephew had to have a liver transplant at VCU/MCV with the assistance of Life Health Net which is a wonderful organization. My nephew is 61 yrs. old, has recovered remarkably well but life will never be quite the same. I pray that David will have equally good luck. Please keep us informed.
The reasons Republicans lost this election so handily and snatched defeat from the jaws of victory in the Senate are threefold: 1. The Democrats superior ground game. 2. The Republicans continued denial of demographic changes in America . and 3. The Republicans have endorsed candidates and allowed themselves to become identified with the groups cited in this analysis from the Southern Poverty Law Center:
http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/news/splc-hatewatch-far-right-extremists-react-with-fury-and-fear-to-obama-re-election
I can tell that I am too old. Ladies with tattoos? Sheesh!
Just curious. Has anyone seen SuzieQ’s tattoo?
That’s right Shillary, 50% of the folks voted for Obama. 25% out the people voted themselves more free stuff and 25%, people like you, voted because you believe they should have free stuff. Almost 50% of us did not vote for right wing lunacy, we voted for personal and fiscal responsibility. Most of us believe in abortion rights, gay marriage and some cuts in defense spending. Your characterization of conservatives in unfair and untrue, but it sure is working. Seriously, I know NOT one person is my circle of conservative friends that don’t respect women’s rights or early-term abortion. NOT ONE!
Have you seen what’s happening in Greece today? That’s 99% of the reason I voted for Romney. The main issues you liberals jumped on are really small. Class warfare? Take ALL the rich peoples money and that wouldn’t even make a dent in our fiscal crisis.
The riots will becoming to streets near you soon, and I can tell you when. That day will be the day the goverment necessarily starts taking back stuff they have given to people. And that day is not far away!
Another Chuck: Social Security = free stuff?
I received this today in an email from a friend.
‘Mr. Davis [Republican in Prince William Co VA] said that it was “not time to panic” for Republicans. But he said Republicans must be honest with themselves about the future.”
“It is time to sit down practically and say where are we going to add pieces to our coalition,” he said. “There just are not enough middle-aged white guys that we can scrape together to win. There’s just not enough of them.”’
‘Demographic Shift Brings New Worry for Republicans’, By MICHAEL D. SHEAR, Published: November 7, 2012, http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/08/us/politics/obamas-victory-presents-gop-with-demographic-test.html
AC: “Your characterization of conservatives in unfair and untrue, but it sure is working. Seriously, I know NOT one person is my circle of conservative friends that don’t respect women’s rights or early-term abortion. NOT ONE!”
Perhaps it’s not her characterization of conservatives that’s at fault, but the policies and platform positions of the party that you and your conservative friends associate with.
By the way, did you ever figure out your reading comprehension error on the Jeep issue?
Frank: “Let’s be sure to enjoy what’s happening in Europe as we go marching down our fiscal path of financial insanity…which is leading us down the same path Europe is on…they’re just further ahead of us.”
Actually, Andrew Sullivan had an excellent point on Colbert election night: Europe is actually following the path of austerity proposed by American Republicans and Mitt Romney: Huge budget cuts and steep, immediate cuts to the deficit. Unemployment rates there have been going up tremendously.
Under President Obama, unemployment rates have fallen dramatically in the last two years. That’s because we’re NOT following the same path as Europe.
Of course not Dan, both of us as individuals and our employers paid for SS and MC. Believe me I know, as a small business owner I have to match that contribution every month….and as opposed to Obama, I have to sign both the front and back of paychecks! Community organizers and Harvard elitists are incapable of understanding business.
Our brainiacs in the FED have lumped our directly constributed money for SS and MC into the general fund, therefore not preserving it. And no one in the FED was capable of seeing that us baby boomers were going to start retiring now. Wow, who could have seen that coming? When they start taking away from us the money WE contributed is the day we become Greece. And that was the point of my post. I know you guys don’t believe this, but I really wish you would!
“Our brainiacs in the FED have lumped our directly constributed money for SS and MC into the general fund, therefore not preserving it. And no one in the FED was capable of seeing that us baby boomers were going to start retiring now. Wow, who could have seen that coming? When they start taking away from us the money WE contributed is the day we become Greece. And that was the point of my post. I know you guys don’t believe this, but I really wish you would!”
Another Chuck, there are legitimate reasons to criticize the Federal Reserve. The ones you cited are not among them.
And sadly, we have trusted these fools, both Republicans and Democrats equally, to do our bidding and long-term planning. As opposed to Shillary, I feel virtually the same about both paries and they both stink. They have wasted our children’s future and will not stop and address reality….possibly because they literally spend half their time not in session or trying to get re-elected.
Leadership addresses the real issues. If Obama comes out tomorrow and says I require by executive order that Congress will stay in session and I will stay in Washington until we: get on track for a balance budget, reform SS and MC to a sustainable level, and create an all of the above type energy policy, I wil say Hail to the Cheif and mean it!
Frank, there should be no problem with your efforts to ““out Europe”…Europe!”, right wingers have done a remarkable job with “out stupid”…stupid.
Another Chuck, your blind, bitter partisan brain cannot conceive that over 60 million people in this nation voted for reform that is sensible, shared and helpful, but it remains the truth. The people who went to the polls for “free stuff” were the right wing idiots who think we can solve this crisis without more revenue and hard choices. They probably thought killing Big Bird would solve it.
Another Chuck, it is just not true that “Most of us believe in abortion rights, gay marriage and some cuts in defense spending”. Your Party Platform and all of the candidates running said differently too.
If indeed you “know NOT one person is my circle of conservative friends that don’t respect women’s rights or early-term abortion” then you should be talking to your leadership. Or you have a very small circle.
Greece has NOTHING to do with us. We are not Greece. Not starting and not finishing are we anything like Greece. No one wants “ALL the rich peoples money“! We want a fair and equal system. THAT was Greece’s problem, they never had that.
Do you not have the sense to know the REASON the government “gives” so much to people (that seems to drive you nuts)? HINT: Businesses make money on those “free phones”, Medicare, Medicaid, food stamps and housing assistance. The same damned Pols campaigning on reform and ending the “gravy train” will be in DC fighting to get a contract or business for their donors doing just that! Nobody pays better than Uncle and the whole damn big business (and small) knows it!
You seriously need to do some research outside the right wing bubble!
hey dan r,
isn’t that the next step after obumee’s aca is fully implemented? When that happens, we’re also likely to have cap and trade, and fewer “rich” people to gouge. ergo, what do we do, then? yep, we be like Europe.
or, in your opinion, why do you believe we won’t be like European countries?
No Dan R. I didn’t care enough. You guys were correct about election though!
The 535 people of congress and the executive branch have to power to control…everything, including the federal reserve monentary policy. They can change the current rules if things aren’t working.
We are 16.2 trillion in debt and they are 100% responsible.
[i]Faced with a Nov. 16 deadline to decide what kind of exchange to establish in Virginia, McDonnell said he would default to a federal exchange with the understanding that the state could change course later.
“I don’t want to buy a pig in a poke for the taxpayers of Virginia,” he said at a postelection news briefing on Wednesday.[/i]
http://www2.timesdispatch.com/news/2012/nov/07/4/mcdonnell-leans-toward-federal-exchange-for-va-ar-2345032/
But…he was willing to buy a taxpayer-funded poke in the down-there for Virginia women? (Well, until societal pressure forced him to back off.)
http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2012/03/why-virginias-new-mandatory-ultrasound-law-still-sucks
@12 Comment by Another Chuck — November 8, 2012 @ 11:35 am
Did you cry “ouch” when you read my post? I never used the word “conservative” in any derogatory way, so if you self identify as a “lunatic fringe” or RWer from the republican party, well, that’s you, not me. It is the fanatical lunatic fringe of the republican party pushing the GOP so far to the right it has become unrecognizable that I posted about. The Tea Puppet Party has made most republican candidates unpalatable to the majority of Americans. It is up to mainstream republicans, if there are any really left, to retake their party from this out of touch, hate-filled-rhetoric, racist, bigoted and selfish group of people now running that party into the ground. That would mean you and the people you identified in your post as more mainstream will have your work cut out for you.
However, this view of yours, “50% of the folks voted for Obama. 25% out the people voted themselves more free stuff and 25%, people like you, voted because you believe they should have free stuff ” belies your pretense of being “mainstream” – you sound exactly like a teabagger… Since you neither know me nor ever had any discussion with me, your judgement of me is as phony as your mainstream claim. As a matter of fact, I have no recollection of you posting anything favoring a woman’s right to choose, nor about Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act…nothing.
Let me just say for clarification, I come from a republican voting family [for the most part]. I know what they believe and what they vote for. Nothing from the Romney campaign spoke to them, and in fact, they were often embarrassed by the lying, and horrified by the mean spirited language of many republicans. As my mother said, this is not the republican party she and my father began voting for in the 1940s…
Interesting about Hampden Sydney.
Apparently the good old boy network of so-called Southern Gentlemen at Hampden Sydney College still have a little bit of the Prince Edward County KKK in them.
http://news.yahoo.com/small-va-college-reports-post-election-unrest-175358281–election.html
I’m speaking for me and many fiscally conservative friends and associates. Our philosophy is simple: Your rights end were my nose begins. If Betty and Mary want to get married, Great! If Henry wants to smoke a joint, good for him. I Martha wants to have an abortion, that is her choice and she should be allowed. You get my point, none of this affects me personally and who am I to judge the others live their lives if their actions do not harm others. And by the way, all of my group has been OK with gay marriage for years….BARACK OBAMA reached our level of enlightenment in July, 2012.
The line is drawn for me,as an example, when We The People are expected to pay for Sandra Fluke’s birth control or abortion. We will not subsidise her sexual choices or results of her actions. She needs to figure that out and PAY FOR IT on her own. Either by buying health care or paying out of pocket.
Dan C, I have visited your board often in the last 10 days or so, and I have mentioned the $16.2 trillion debt and the problems it WILL ultimately cause to our citizens. Outside of a few reference to taxing the rich more, nobody has offered any suggestion on how to get on track to solve that problem. It seems your Liberal dominated board is much more concerned about whether Mary and Betty can get married, than you are about the FACT that if they do, they will be living in a seriously diminished nation. Obama effectively made an argument that small issues were the big issues and won re-election. I somehow hope he removes his head from the sand a tackle the big issues, jobs, debt and energy….but I’m not confident he will.
“I’m speaking for me and many fiscally conservative friends and associates. Our philosophy is simple: Your rights end were my nose begins. If Betty and Mary want to get married, Great! If Henry wants to smoke a joint, good for him. I Martha wants to have an abortion, that is her choice and she should be allowed. You get my point, none of this affects me personally and who am I to judge the others live their lives if their actions do not harm others. And by the way, all of my group has been OK with gay marriage for years….BARACK OBAMA reached our level of enlightenment in July, 2012.”
Another Chuck,
The shame of it for you is that your candidate didn’t agree with you on any of those issues. He was the ticket-leader of a political party run amok. A hell of a lot of people who voted for Obama may have instead pulled the lever for Romeny if he had said in public what you just wrote.
But he didn’t.
A question to those more wise than I, but was Bush’s Medicare D funding worked out before it was implemented? If so (or not) what does it cost the taxpayer each year?
So I see that governor McDonnell has decided that Virginia will not set up health care exchanges as part of the implementation of the Affordable Care Act. Each State had the opportunity to do to comply with the law, or, if they didn’t, they could just let the Feds do it. Looks like we are going to have a federal exchange.
I wonder what he was thinking?
Yeah, Ron, I know. What does the Bible say about tattoos?
hey ron may,
i’m with you regarding tatoos….but i still don’t believe “ladies” get them.
Mr. Lyons speaks:
http://www.wdbj7.com/news/wdbj7-bedford-jewelry-store-closes-to-mourn-tuesdays-election-outcome-20121107,0,5851578.story
“‘I just didn’t feel like coming to work,’ Lyons said Thursday. ‘There are many days I feel like that as a small business owner.’”
“‘I didn’t want to be happy and wait on people that day,’ said Lyons.”
I thought you John-Galt-I-built-my-business-all-by-myself-types were made of stronger stuff.
Atlas-Shrug-up dude!
However, to be honest, I think he may be depressed, actually.
Dan, you might be correct and probably are and that makes me sad. Romney spent 99.9% of is time talking about the economy, jobs, debt and energy. You and others might not have agreed with his proposed solutions to these big problems and if so, I hoped you voted against him for that reason.
Obama didn’t even run on his own signature piece of legislation-healthcare. He didn’t totally run away from it, but he sure didn’t run on it. He successfully turned the election away from the big issues and ran on small, decisive and emotional ones…and blame!!
The democratic machine has perfected the art and science of winning elections. If the same amount of effort and intelligence were put into solving the nations big problems, we might get somewhere.
Another Chuck, what you described in the first few sentences of your #28 post is Libertarianism…not conservatism. That may be part of the problem…I know it was for me, which is why I no longer vote for or support the Republican Party.
But, in paragraph 2, where you mention paying for BC or abortions…you do realize that if under the pre-ACA system, if a woman had group health insurance and required coverage for either, that everyone who bought health insurance and paid premiums technically paid for a portion of that, right? That’s how insurance works…the provider collects from all consumers of their policy, and distributes it to the people who require medical coverage to pay for their procedures, medications, etc. What changed with the ACA? Not much…it just requires coverage for more people.
Wow Mr. Lyons…some of us get up and go to work even when we don’t feel like it. So much for your work ethic, pal.
Perhaps you won’t have as many people to wait on in the future.
AnotherChuck, your party doesn’t represent your views. Doesn’t it even bother you a little?
The only way the GOP is going to back away from the crazy train is if the more “moderate” and traditional-type Republicans make it clear that they’re sick and tired of their party being hijacked by the nuts. Stop voting for them, above all stop giving them money until they rejoin the rest of us on planet Earth.
MM,
My aversion to tattoos on women/ladies is not Biblically based. Sorry if that’s disappointing to you.
Mr. Lyons,
What are you crazy, paying your lazy workers for not working Wednesday, that day you shot you store down? You know they voted for Obama, right?
No workee, no payee. You need to bone up on your John Galt!
/sarcasm OFF
Another Chuck @12 posted, “Seriously, I know NOT one person is my circle of conservative friends that don’t respect women’s rights or early-term abortion. NOT ONE!”
then, Another Chuck @ 28 posted, “The line is drawn for me,as an example, when We The People are expected to pay for Sandra Fluke’s birth control or abortion. We will not subsidise her sexual choices or results of her actions. She needs to figure that out and PAY FOR IT on her own. Either by buying health care or paying out of pocket.”
This is the old trick of the right to conflate one false distinction with a false equivalence. Contraception IS “a woman’s right” and one you so obviously don’t believe in.
The republican right, along with the Christian right, wants us all to believe that they somehow are paying for a woman’s contraception when she has health insurance through her employer, etc. That if she has an abortion for reasons such as incest, rape, or her health, that they somehow are paying because,[Another Chuck] “will not subsidise (sic) her sexual choices or results of her actions.”
See, he won’t subsidize…who asked him to? Private insurance companies have covered contraceptives – which are used for more than preventing pregnancy – and now republicans want to eliminate this coverage. Insurance companies through employment, or women’s health through Planned Parenthood, along with her physician and her own life’s choices, economic choices, and health needs, ARE NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS, nor your “conservative” friends’ and acquaintances’ business. Please demonstrate to me where anyone has taken money from you personally or from your “conservative” friends for “her sexual choices”…I’ll be waiting patiently.
BTW, here is an interesting link for you and your “conservative” friends:
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57377864-503544/poll-most-back-mandating-contraception-coverage/
“The democratic machine has perfected the art and science of winning elections.”
Maybe the GOP needs to get itself a few community organizers. Apparently they know how to win elections.
Kristen and Other John, yes I am very aware I’m not a Republican. I am a Libertarian for the most part. I just wanted my vote to matter. Obama was going to win or Romney was going to win and I supported Romney because I thought he would do a little better on economic and debt issues.I agree that Republican party as is, is about done.
The problem is that we are all going to lose if we don’t take actions to get on an immediate path to a balance budget and reduction of our debt. None of Obama’s actions so far convinced my he would do anything about it, or frankly, based upon his performance, I don’t think he even cares. What has happened in Greece is they are out of opions. They don’t have any money and no one will lend it to them. Most of Europe is right behind them. If we do nothing, we are next!
Other John, yes, I know funds are pooled in group insurance plans and distributed as needed. As long as the insured is paying the premium, and the policy covers BC, abortion or whatever, I’m good with that.
Another Chuck
What the “democratic machine ” has discovered is that there is no substitute for personal contacts and for organizing literally millions of people to get out the vote on election day. And the number of small donors to the Obama campaign and to the DSCC was enormous. When you get PEOPLE involved in your campaigns instead of paying millions to some shyster organization like the one that screwed up the voter registration work in Harrisonburg, you win.
Shillary, if someone is paying their premiums and their policy covers, BC, abortion or whatever, I am 100% ok with that. That’s the free-market system working.
Florida Election Results 2012: Mitt Romney Concedes; President Obama Wins Sunshine State
http://www.idigitaltimes.com/articles/12609/20121108/florida-election-results-2012-mitt-romney-concedes.htm
Dan, re: 3:11 pm
You are correct regarding “issues”; as the numbers become clearer, it seems many conservatives just “stayed home”. I am very surprised that so many took the “protest” route instead of the “lesser of two evils” route.
Maybe they figured that our country has become like an alcoholic regarding spending and we need to “hit bottom” instead of having an “intervention”.
I am curious, as I read many liberal posts here, claiming that we need some “sharing” to fix our fiscal problems and rebuild our country; what “sacrifice” might be acceptable for those who live completely on the taxpayer dole?
To help rebuild our infrastructure, should they labor one day a week to assist in building roads and bridges? To help with “green energy” should they labor one day a week in a government supported plant? Or could they pick up trash, cut common grounds etc… to free up other government employees to do other work?
Or, does a portion of our society “deserve” to be completely dependent on others. (note: I am speaking of able bodied persons, not the aged or truly infirmed).
hey another chuck,
you make too much sense. the libs can’t deal with that.
The weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth from my conservative friends on Facebook yesterday was amusing to me. You would think that some of them had just been given the death sentence.
I’m not crazy about tattoos either, especially when people have them all over their body. My daughter on the other hand loves them, she has 3.
Maybe the GOP needs to get itself a few community organizers. Apparently they know how to win elections.
Melrose Precinct 880 for 0bama, 13 for Romney. Melrose had the second-highest vote total for any precinct in the city and went 99% for Romney.
Anybody who thinks this is legit is smoking crack. These people don’t get out of bed, let alone vote. This is an area that is, what, 90% welfare/section 8? This is an example of why our election system is corrupt. 99%, my ass.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/08/kristen-neel-anti-obama-australia-tweet-backlash_n_2093160.html?ir=World&ref=topbar
I wonder if we could convince Australia to take in this nitwit. She makes this country dumber just by breathing here.
I look at this election as an excellent opportunity to offload a little dead weight in this country. Kristen…take Rush with you!
DJIA down 550 after the election. Amazing how the MSM is dancing around the obvious reason. Jeez, TASS has nothing on this bunch.
“Melrose Precinct 880 for 0bama, 13 for Romney. Melrose had the second-highest vote total for any precinct in the city and went 99% for Romney.”
I bet community organizers can do basic math too.
Ahhh just this morning her flounce was POD. What a difference 7 or 8 hours makes.
Shrill, re: 4:30 pm
Sadly, you obviously have no clue (or concern) about the ACA and how it affects business owners, and creates dilemma’s, for those with sincere beliefs regarding abortion, contraception etc….
In fact you are creating your own “false equivalence”. I will give an example, take it as you will.
I am employed by a business owner that pays 100% of employee insurance (of course there are the normal deductibles, etc…) he has sincere moral objections to abortions, birth control, morning after, etc…. (lets call them “measures”).
You are correct our insurance has paid these claims in the past. However he “rationalized” that he was not supporting these “measures” because the employee was paying a co-pay and it was “their” money (not his) that accomplished their goals.
It seems the new ACA rules will now mandate that all “measures” be completely free of deductibles; thereby placing the entire “moral” burden on him (granted the economical burden may change very little).
I can almost guarantee you that the consequence of this will be that he will now discontinue our entire insurance program (which is very generous) and push our employees into the federal system.
Speaking of tattoos, they look great on the tight skin of youth, but the butterfly turns into a caterpillar with age… somewhat ironic (or maybe not).
On a completely different subject:
I see iranian jets fired at a US aircraft Nov. 1st and we conveniently did not hear about it until after the election. I suppose iran figures that if we allow our citizens to be murdered on American soil overseas, we will have no problem with our aircraft being shot at in international airspace.
We have become the laughingstock of the world.
aaaarrrrrggggggggggggg – its back…like the night of the living dead…
#47: mike O shows just how important it is to him to maintain his belief that there are far more like himself than there really are. The self-deluding rationalization of “…but they stayed home” is his narcotic after it being proven that millions more prefer views other than his own.
Sad, mike O.
Kristen@52,
That’s pretty funny. It’s one way to learn a little geography.
But it kind of begs the question of what country would you move to if you thought Obama was going to turn us into godless, socialist hell hole? Almost all of them are way more socialist or godless than we are. Not a lot of good choices if your two main criteria are pure capitalism and Christianity.
I have seen estimates that we spent between 2 biilion and 6 billion dollars during this election cycle. Folks, that is truly obscene. Both parties shoulder equal resposibility here. Such a statistic renders claims of this country’s dire fiscal condition somewhat disingenuous, or so it seems to me.
Another Chuck, Frank’s admiration for your prowess notwithstanding, how on earth is this Congress “100% responsible” for our 16.2 trillion in debt. Do you seriously claim that nonsense is true? And you seriously need to read up on the Fed and how they work.
Suzie rides again…somehow I do not believe it will be a classic.
From CBS; Adviser, Romney “shellshocked” by loss.
Can’t really blame Iran, most Americans would fire on a drone.
Mike O, why does your boss get to decide your moral burden? He considers birth control immoral? What makes ANYONE use birth control or abortion services just because they are covered? Does he morally object to Viagra? Is he your employer or your priest? Are you saying even you morally superior folks will rip off the system given half the chance (as you assume everyone else does)?
NOTHING about mandating reproductive services be covered on insurance mandates ANYONE to use birth control or abortion. That is a choice and why you or anyone else thinks your boss should make it for you is baffling.
“Its back”. .That didn’t last long.
Troll addition is a horrible thing!
See a lot of aged skin tats do you Mike O?
The Romney campaign has conceded Florida .332 electoral votes !
“Obama didn’t even run on his own signature piece of legislation-healthcare.”
Poppycock! What channel were YOU watching?
For those of you who believe the election changed your world, think about what Sandy did to this young lady and her family.
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/11/08/15030092-after-hurricane-sandy-kills-parents-rutgers-student-must-raise-3-siblings?lite
Romney underestimated the cheating machine that is the Democrat Party, particularly in black areas. There are hundreds of Melrose districts in the county stealing elections.
Let me reiterate. 880 0bama votes and 13 Romney votes in one district in Roanoke City. NO population agrees on anything 99% of the time unless there’s some funny business.
Did you go to the Melrose precinct, Suze? Of course you didn’t. I was there on election day. The place wasn’t mobbed like Villa Heights or William Byrd, two other precincts I stopped by. But there were a lot of people there, and it was steady.
Face it: Obama had a much better ground game than Romney — who got 2 million fewer votes than McCain did in 2008!
Once again you have no idea what you’re talking about.
Community organizer = winner.
Suck it, haters. Romney didn’t inspire enough peasants to kiss the ring.
I agree Nosaj. The amount of money spent on this campaign is indeed obscene.
Mike, the “U.S. aircraft” was an unmanned drone. Did you overlook that part? And they didn’t hit it.
Nosaj, I said to a friend yesterday that last week Obama was president, a few billion dollars later…and Obama is still president. A lot of money to preserve the status quo.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/08/mitt-romney-lost-election_n_2095013.html?ncid=mobile1
Nothing like taking billions of other people’s money and using it to ignore reality. “unskewed polls” really? I’m a little irritated by the polls we were fed…I doubt it was ever as close as it was made to appear.
Romney was always going to lose, and it never occurred to him. I’m sure it’s never occurred to him that he would ever be denied something he wanted…it’s not part of his world view. What a sad narrow man…he’d have been a horrible president.
Re: http://tinyurl.com/awevs4m
“As for me, I’m going to make myself scarce in here.”
vs.
Comment by Suzie — November 8, 2012 @ 5:39 pm
Comment by Suzie — November 8, 2012 @ 5:45 pm
Comment by Suzie — November 8, 2012 @ 8:14 pm
Equals yet another Suzie failure or lie.
Face it: Obama had a much better ground game than Romney — who got 2 million fewer votes than McCain did in 2008!
Once again you have no idea what you’re talking about.
Sorry, Dan. Only a fool believes 0bama legitimately got 99% of the vote at Melrose. You apparently just fell off the turnip truck.
Hey SuzieQ…I assume you heard about Joe Walsh. Mr “you lie”. He’s going home now…I’m sure he has a great career In ducking child support ahead of him. Go Tea Party!
I never said I was leaving the blog, Dave H. Dan did. But sorry if your interpretation of when or how much I post doesn’t match mine.
“As for me, I’m going to make myself scarce in here. . . .I need an extended break from this cesspool. Right now, I feel dirty associating with people who made this disaster happen.”
–Suzie 6:40 a.m.
“I never said I was leaving the blog, Dave H. Dan did. But sorry if your interpretation of when or how much I post doesn’t match mine.”
–Suzie, 9:49 p.m.
Hey SuzieQ! Look up the definition of the word “scarce”. I do not think it means what you think it means.
Fwiw, I knew there was no way in hell you’d go anywhere, even when your pathetic over-funded and under-brain powered candidate got his butt kicked back to whatever house he calls home. I look forward to having you here to kick around the block every time the Birthbaggers take it up the gut, as they’re about to. America wised up, and without you here to share it with it wouldn’t be nearly as meaningful.
Joe Walsh is going home
Joe Walsh. Yeah, with the Eagles. Life’s Been Good. Dan ought to like him. He was a druggie, too.
Brokeback Suzie.
Hey SuzieQ! Look up the definition of the word “scarce”. I do not think it means what you think it means.
That’s just it, Kristen. You think it mean’s non-existent, and it doesn’t. Toss in another ‘nickel’ for the the bimbo.
Actually the election confirmed what I always said. That a true conservative would have won in a rout. Romney, as great as he was, wasn’t conservative enough to turn out the vote necessary to overcome the cheating and the MSM bias.
Somebody like Michele Bachmann or Rick Santorum or Herman Cain would have educated America on the true cause of the financial collapse instead of allowing Idiot Boy’s version to go unchallenged. They wouldn’t have minced words on their opposition to abortion, and they wouldn’t have agreed the achievers shouldn’t get tax breaks along with everybody else. And they would hammered the hell out of the idiot on his Benghazi scandal. And most importantly, they would have absolutely POUNDED him on the failure of 0bamacare. Romney couldn’t go all out on that.
No way, Suz! “Scarce” means 20% of the blog, babe! Status quo resumed.
#88 This is so great. suzie is absolutely apoplectic. What a child.
Melrose 97.56% for Obama in 2012
http://electionresults.virginia.gov/resultsPREC.aspx?type=PRE&rid=3545232527424045364&cty=770&osn=0
Melrose 97.19% for Obama in 2008
https://www.voterinfo.sbe.virginia.gov/election/DATA/2008/07261AFC-9ED3-410F-B07D-84D014AB2C6B/Official/00_p_770_89BE12EC-7BBF-479C-935A-9B8C51DD3524.shtml
Melrose 91.2% for Kerry in 2004
http://www.sbe.virginia.gov/ElectionResults/2004/Nov2004/detail770.htm#01
It is what it is and you can’t stand it. I think Melrose precinct has a pretty good grasp on who respects them and who does not.
Da suz knows all about the Melrose hood; there’s a fish joint over she goes to all the time that hubster did some gratis ac duct work for. Mr and Mrs suz love helping out the poor black folk. This was back in the day before hubby owned a “top 25 Roanoke area business”. Also way back when suz had “four, count ‘em four” ac units in her abode. Also probably back before suz and hubby used to jet up to NYC for the day but before the ducats started raining down on them and they started flying to the islands for the weekend instead. It’s safe assume all this nonsense transpired way before suz took trips to Zimbabwe or promised she’d leave the blog after getting spanked like a misbehaving two year old.
Yes brain trust, U.S. Rep. Joe Walsh (R-Ill.) lost and is skulking home after Tammy Duckworth beat his insane butt. He lost by almost 10 points.
John Wilburn, you are right, it IS fun to hit that piñata, even knowing it is empty.
Anyone else wonder if Zimbabwe is the name of her trailer in north Myrtle?
Shorter Suzie: Obama’s election shows Americans are morons/takers. Or Democrats cheated. Or Christie’s a douche. Or WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
Want some cheese with your whine?
It is what it is and you can’t stand it. I think Melrose precinct has a pretty good grasp on who respects them and who does not.
Right. And four years from now, they’ll still be jobless, on welfare and food stamps, and living in government-subsidized housing. That’s how the Democrats define respect.
Steve C. is all-consumed by our four condenser units. This is the third or fourth time he’s mentioned it, so it’s obviously a thing for him.
Doesn’t your studio apt. even have a window unit, Steve?
douche
Oh wow. Keep it classy there Rad. What would your buddy Trejbal say?
@Suzie: Somebody like Michele Bachmann or Rick Santorum or Herman Cain would have educated America
Bwahahahahahahahahaha!!!!! Oh, yes. Bachmann or Santorum or Cain would have done far better. Now I’m back to thinking Suze is a liberal troll pretending to be conservative because NO ONE is THAT stupid. Even most of the GOP now realizes that Bachmann is half (or three-quarters) insane. Santorum wouldn’t have won his own state (wait, neither did Romney or Ryan). His EC vote would have been way under 200. And Cain is such a joke, he KNOWS he’s a joke (his bits on The Daily Show have been hysterical and have given me a newfound respect for him as a person, though certainly not as a presidential candidate).
Ok, Suze. You had me until that. You have got to be a liberal pulling a joke. Come clean.
Because, it’s either that, or you’re just a joke.
Yes brain trust, U.S. Rep. Joe Walsh (R-Ill.) lost and is skulking home after Tammy Duckworth beat his insane butt. He lost by almost 10 points.
Right. Walsh was in a leftwing state running in a district specifically redrawn to favor Democrats. Nice try though, kitten.
Holy hell, from you people’s demeanor, you’d think you lost the election. Come to think of it, you did. We ALL lost. Four more years of economic depression. All thanks to you.
Anyone else wonder if Zimbabwe is the name of her trailer in north Myrtle?
I’ve heard over and over the past ten days that 0bama really admires Robert Mugabe. His ultimate goal is to be just like him. He’s off to a hell of a start, I must say.
I was just thinking Melrose’s 99% margin is only one point off Mugabe’s “official” totals from last election. And almost as authentic.
President-elect Mitt Romney…oops…
you’ve got that right, Suzie.
The libs have the folks right there in their back pocket…they pull’em out at election time, then put’em right back until the next election.
#89 Ahh, the old meme from suzie. And the Dems cheated. And the MSM threw the election for them. And they cheated some more. And poopiehead.
Even Rash isn’t pulling that crap right now. He’s admitted what every other single right-wing “pundit” is saying — that just getting old white people to vote for the right isn’t going to win elections any more.
God, suzie, you are just pitiful. And it’s so much fun to watch.
#100 Oh please, suzie, you used “bimbo” just a while back. Classy.
I was just echoing the right-wing criticism of Christie, Suzie. Don’t believe me? Type in “chris christie do” and see what’s third or fourth on the autocomplete.
But you never answered the question: Do you want cheese with your whine?
Another Chuck:
“The problem is that we are all going to lose if we don’t take actions to get on an immediate path to a balance budget and reduction of our debt. None of Obama’s actions so far convinced my he would do anything about it, or frankly, based upon his performance, I don’t think he even cares. What has happened in Greece is they are out of opions. They don’t have any money and no one will lend it to them. Most of Europe is right behind them. If we do nothing, we are next!”
You are exactly right and just as the voting public could not care less about this crisis in the making, you got no real response either. They don’t have one.
Sandi Saunders:
95.”John Wilburn, you are right, it IS fun to hit that piñata, even knowing it is empty.”
Suzie is the most durable punching bag I have ever seen.
Karl Rove’s latest spin is that Romnmey lsot because the Democrats used “voter suppression techniques” to keep Republicans from voting.
When asked what kind of “voter suppression” techniques the Democrats engaged in he said it was all those negative ads about Mitt Romney that caused Republican voters to stay home and not vote. If I’m not mistaken this is the guy who raised and spent over 300 million dollars on negative attack ads against Barack Obama and ten Democratic candidates for the Senate. Is this typical Karl Rove or what. Just accuse the other side of doing what you’re doing and repeat it over and over until people believe it. The good news is that this time it’s not working for him. The wingnuts and billionaires who gave him the cash are calling him out.
Rove is finished. This time there’s no Scooter Libby to fall on his sword.
“They don’t have one.”
Do your homework, Romney was ready to crank up another war. Do you really think he had the money to pay for it? I hate to use the analogy, but you just dodged a bullet.
Mr. Wilburn and Another Chuck, I believe Dan Radmacher’s post back around #16 addresses nicely why we are not going down the same path as Greece and the rest of Europe. AC, your insistence on “immediate” results is unrealistic, and we are clearly not running out of money. We just spent upwards of 6 billion dollars on elections around this nation! Let’s quit bickering, write our congress people, and tell them to cooperate with one another to avoid the looming fiscal cliff.
Mitt took his money and went home.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/helaineolen/2012/11/08/mitt-romneys-campaign-cancels-staffers-credit-cards-in-the-middle-of-the-night/
Suzie’s topping from the bottom. She loves all this, which works well for everyone.
@92 – Respect = Free Stuff. I will thank them for their undying ignorance as i provide them with Thanksgiving Dinners this year.
It wasn’t about Joe Walsh’s district (was he magically elected the first time?). It was about you, once again, showing your ignorance: “Joe Walsh. Yeah, with the Eagles. Life’s Been Good. Dan ought to like him. He was a druggie, too.
Comment by Suzie — November 8, 2012 @ 10:03 pm“
And you “define respect” by claiming 99% of the voters at the Melrose precinct were “jobless, on welfare and food stamps, and living in government-subsidized housing“. That’s why you keep losing.
“I’ve heard over and over the past ten days that 0bama really admires Robert Mugabe”
Yes, this is what happens when you listen exclusively to those voices in your head, or Fox News.
As I’ve always said, it’s important that you continue to blog because your ideological voice serves as a benchmark by which sane people can see exactly how screwed up our country would be if the ideological likes of folks like you ever got the upper hand. You are hands down the best spokesperson for progressive points of view, and the beauty of it is that you don’t seem to know it.
You are absolutely going to love the next 4 years. It will give your life new purpose. I think you should run as Tea Party candidate for a local office.
Seriously, you cannot make this stuff up! Right wing parrots, who lie, distort, make things up and repeat every right wing talking point to death saying WE have some people in our “back pocket“, is just damned funny! And pitiful.
Frank, Another Chuck, Suzie, Pistol Pete, lower case matt, Leon, Symbols, Mike O et al: You lost because you lied more, distorted more, excluded more people, and offered no path forward for the nation. Whatever you think we are, multiply that by 100 and you have you. America is just not that in to you.
The Election Is Finally, Really Over: Romney Lost Florida
#111 Rove has sold some sh** in the past but that one won’t fly.
But you never answered the question: Do you want cheese with your whine?
You aren’t smart enough to understand this, Rad, but you’re celebrating while you’re destroying the world your son will live in. You think business is the enemy, that capitalism is evil. You’re career is now devoted to killing jobs. Wait until your son grows up and has limited opportunites because the evil “capitalists” are all gone.
Frank, Another Chuck, Suzie, Pistol Pete, lower case matt, Leon, Symbols, Mike O et al: You lost because you lied more, distorted more, excluded more people, and offered no path forward for the nation. Whatever you think we are, multiply that by 100 and you have you. America is just not that in to you.
Sandi,
We lost because more people are in the wagon than pulling the wagon. We lost because we are a nation of children.
“I’ve heard over and over the past ten days that 0bama really admires Robert Mugabe”
Yes, this is what happens when you listen exclusively to those voices in your head, or Fox News.
No, Mike Scott, I heard it from people who live in Zimbabwe. They know what they’re living through, and they are probably more attunded to American politics than you are.
And you “define respect” by claiming 99% of the voters at the Melrose precinct were “jobless, on welfare and food stamps, and living in government-subsidized housing“.
I’ll bet 99% of those alleged 0bama voters are on two or more forms of government assistance. Probably 100% of them.
And what will change in four years? Nothing.
Bachmann is half (or three-quarters) insane.
Yeah, that’s the leftwing smear machine at work, Rad. Its goal is to personally trash anybody personally whose ideas are a threat to the liberal pedagogy. It’s straight out of the Saul Alinsky playbook. Did you know Bachmann’s a tax attorney, Rad? What are you?
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And Cain is such a joke, he KNOWS he’s a joke (his bits on The Daily Show have been hysterical
Yeah, Stewart’s racist Steppin Fetchit routine was a scream. But you know, them black men aren’t to be taken seriously, are they? Certainly not those of 100% slave blood. Even if they are self-made millionaires who hold advanced mathematics degrees. You libs need to have your blacks half white and sounding white and cleaning up real nice even if they’ve never so much as run a lemonade stand. That’s why y’all couldn’t nominate Jesse Jackson. He was too black for you.
Suzie
Michelle Bachmann was barely able to carry herm own Congressional District in this election and the last time Rick Santorum ran for office he got beat by 17% in his home state.; If either of them had been the candidate Obama would have gotten 60% of the vote and neither of them would have carried a state outside of the deep south.
#89: “Romney…wasn’t conservative enough”
Since Rmoney described himself as “severly conservative”, either the poster is calling him a liar, or the poster thinks that severe conservatism isn’t enough to win.
Either way, the poster is agreeing with the MSM.
severely
Suzie:
“Sandi,
We lost because more people are in the wagon than pulling the wagon. We lost because we are a nation of children.”
+1
Michelle Bachmann was barely able to carry herm own Congressional District in this election and the last time Rick Santorum ran for office he got beat by 17% in his home state.; If either of them had been the candidate Obama would have gotten 60% of the vote and neither of them would have carried a state outside of the deep south.
Bachmann or Santorum would have energized the base such that the turnout would have been better than 0bama’s.