Sweet sixteen on the Saturday OPEN thread
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Friday, May 24, 2013
THE ROANOKE TIMES
It appears that Karl Rove’s Crossroad GPS didn’t file the necessary registration paperwork in Virginia to be legal (imagine that)….
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/11/14/1188771/exclusive-karl-roves-crossroads-gps-never-filed-legally-required-registration/
It would be a real shame if Rove had to give the money back to donors, disclose who they are and possibly go to jail. I’m sure Cooch will give him a pass.
“It would be a real shame if Rove had to give the money back to donors, disclose who they are and possibly go to jail. I’m sure Cooch will give him a pass.”
Interesting. Rove’s running afoul of the same problem his crooked pal Bobby Thompson, of the U.S. Navy Veterans Association, ran into in Virginia.,
Does this mean that Rove might have to return the $100,000 (each) that he got from Nick Taubman and Heywood Fralin?
It is quite comforting to see that Christian conspiracy theories are rampant in more than one place. It seems that they are so rampant in fact, it may need to be studies all on its own.
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2012/11/17/the-explosion-of-christian-conspiracy-theories-in-obamas-americ/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/16/xitclalli-chilli-vasquez-paralyzed-girl-letter-to-drunk-drive-jury-cries_n_2143784.html?icid=maing-grid10%7Chtmlws-main-bb%7Cdl2%7Csec1_lnk3%26pLid%3D235665
How does this guy get only 10 years?
We were in court yesterday to pick up a drivers license. We got Judge Ferguson for the second time, and he does a great job talking to the kids (along with the police sergeant he had in there as well talking about drunk driving), but maybe reading a letter like this outloud would do the job.
They did have one statistic that blew me away. In the city of Roanoke, 80% of the accidents attributed to alcohol involve a driver from the age of 16-24. Also, there’s a ‘legal limit’ for kids under 21, which makes no sense to me because they can’t drink legally in the first place.
Someone please tell me I’m not alone in not mourning Twinkies. Several friends on Facebook loved them and I hated them. I did like the Hostess sno-balls when I was a kid, but that’s the only Hostess product I liked.
I’m sorry for the workers who lost their jobs,and their families, but I won’t miss their products.
I’ve never had a Twinkie in my life, Debbie (cream-filled foods gross me out), so I’ve got nothing to miss.
Count me in, Debbie. I don’t think I’ve had a Twinkie since I was 8.
I will kind of miss those nasty black cream-filled cupcakes Hostess sold with the little white icing loops on the top. That is a once every five years-type guilty pleasure for me.
I hear there’s people trying to spur a run on Twinkies on eBay…OMG.
http://www.examiner.com/article/hostess-twinkies-on-sale-on-ebay-starting-bid-200-000
Re: John Wilburn @ 6:21 pm
How about this one: http://tinyurl.com/c4eblpm
Glad to know I’m not alone after all. I had a Twinkie once, and I just didn’t like it. I couldn’t see what all the fuss was about. Twinkies make me think of the show, All In The Family. Edith used to put them in Archie’s lunch.
John Wilburn, I haven’t heard about eBay, but friends on Facebook are talking about searching various stores for them and not finding them anywhere. I know the cupcakes you’re talking about.
It is quite comforting to see that Christian conspiracy theories are rampant in more than one place. It seems that they are so rampant in fact, it may need to be studies all on its own.
Of course 0bama has declared war on religion. Communism is atheist at its heart.
Dan, how would you feel about the University of Maryland joining the B1G Ten?
http://m.espn.go.com/ncf/story?storyId=8644587
Suzie:
“Communism is atheist at its heart.”
Using logic and reason only, what do atheism and communism have to do with one another?
Debbie, I could take or leave Twinkies, but I will mourn the passing of Sweet Sixteen Powdered Donuts.
Re: Debbi @ 7:14 pm
Ah, but did you ever try deep fried Twinkies?
Think of the political ramifications: http://tinyurl.com/abt7r6j
This is a serious bipartisan issue. U.S. Senator John McCain (R-AZ) and Congressman Jim Himes (D-CT 4th) are concerned.
Dave Hicks
It seems John McCain will do just about anything these days to try to keep his name in the headlines. Time for John to retire and enjoy his wife’s money.
Dont you guys cry too hard for your Twinkies..
I would lay money on the business going to Bimbo.
Its a Mexican company in origin.
They took over the Dallas areas biggest and oldest
bread producer, Mrs Bairds.
They are very good at keeping the wrapping and name
intact…My guess is Bimbo will buy them..and
hire at least some of the people back..I havent seen any
other speculation on this…this is just my take.
That would be great if it happens, Joe. Sorry about your Sweet Sixteen Donuts, Nosaj. I prefer yeast donuts to cake ones, but I know your aren’t alone in your mourning of the Sweet Sixteens.
When it comes to junk food, I prefer salty, crunchy chips to the sweet stuff. Hence my lack of mourning for Hostess.
Dave Hicks @10:35pm, no I never tried deep fried Twinkies, or God forbid, deep fried butter. Did you read the comments after that article? The union is to blame for Hostess closing, which means Obama is to blame. I was right, he is to blame for everything bad under the sun. The union shut the plant down so the workers could receive unemployment benefits and other free goodies. Such is the mindset of those who commented.
Re: joe @ 3:35 am
Maybe Bain Capital? With the company’s unsecured employee pension funds, totaling nearly $1 billion, they’d be ripe to stiff the employee and retirees then turn over the name and physical plants for a big profit.
Using logic and reason only, what do atheism and communism have to do with one another?
Both deny the existence of God, and both are trying to impose their anti-God agenda on the populace.
Apparently the communist/atheist agenda isn’t working. Church doors are still open all over this country.
Apparently the communist/atheist agenda isn’t working. Church doors are still open all over this country.
It’s all incremental and communists are very patient. The manifesto I cited with the 45 goals is 55 years old. Like the Soviets, they’ll try to erase the visible church, but they will never stop the underground one. The church will persevere until the end of time.
I am disappointed in Catholics for not being stronger and more vociferous in opposing 0bama’s anti-religion anti-Catholic agenda. God may have allowed this election result as a wake-up call. Sadly, some people don’t react until it’s too late.
Yeah, but Debbie, haven’t you noticed all the forced church closings going on?
Why just yesterday I noticed that the only churches represented in the Grandin Road Children’s Parade were 5 or 6 right along that section of Grandin Road plus couple of other nearby ones. This was obviously part of a decades-long nefarious plot to slowly ease all religion out of the parade — next they’ll get rid of the references to Christ and then the Boy and Girl Scouts. Who knows where they’ll stop.
Suzie:
“Both deny the existence of God, and both are trying to impose their anti-God agenda on the populace.”
The religious crazies shove God down the throats of children from birth in attempt to paralyze them in fear of spending eternity in hell. Who is imposing what here? I’m very tolerant of your religion even though I believe it’s doing you more harm than good.
55 years old and still the churches are open and people are free to worship as they please. Damn, those communists sure aren’t in any hurry are they?
Thank goodness for the Catholic Church during this election. They were quite vocal about the disconnect between the Republican Party’s open contempt for the poor and the teachings of the Church. John Wilburn, you make an excellent point about tolerance. Wouldn’t it be nice of such tolerance was two-way street.
“Thank goodness for the Catholic Church during this election. They were quite vocal about the disconnect between the Republican Party’s open contempt for the poor and the teachings of the Church. John Wilburn, you make an excellent point about tolerance. Wouldn’t it be nice of such tolerance was two-way street.”
Yes, the church was and that likely is the majority of Catholics voted Obama.
55 years old and still the churches are open and people are free to worship as they please. Damn, those communists sure aren’t in any hurry are they?
Comment by Debbie — November 18, 2012 @ 4:28 pm
We’reThey’re calling it a war of attrition. It’ll all come together when they die out in a couple of hundred years.nosaj:
“Wouldn’t it be nice of such tolerance was two-way street.”
Many if not most overbearing religious folks feel like the end justifies the means and therefore it is acceptable to wilfully violate the golden rule. They are most arrogant in that tactic. I don’t think they realize how much they’re doing to harm Christianity, which I’m not worried about…. I think it’s its own product and making its own bed.
What I love about the Catholic Church is its unwavering rejection of permissive “modernism” and evils like abortion, permarital sex, and birth control. No matter how evil the state becomes, the church is always the sanctuary.
Evil communist regimes will fade. The Church has persevered and will do so until the end of time. Jesus tells us this, and it has proven true.. A 2000-year unbroken line of popes going back to St. Peter the apostle is pretty astounding. Good survives. Evil doesn’t.
JW, you are so right. I have had more than one well-meaning evangelical tell me it was their goal to “save” me. I thanked each of them and went on about my business. I am not sure I would describe them as arrogant, although some surely are. These folks truly cared for my “corrupt” soul. Such fervency is very powerful and one-sided. I don’t engage in this situations out of respect for myself and for my friend.
One more thing. Faith is essential, in my opinion, to fulfillment. Faith comes in many varieties, and I refuse to say someone’s faith is any better or worse than someone else’s. It is yours, and I trust that you chose wisely.
Suzie:
31.”What I love about the Catholic Church is its unwavering rejection of permissive “modernism” and evils like abortion, permarital sex, and birth control.”
Suzie, have you ever had premarital sex?
Thank goodness for the Catholic Church during this election. They were quite vocal about the disconnect between the Republican Party’s open contempt for the poor and the teachings of the Church.
That’s just nonsense, Nosaj. Nobody has shown more contempt for the poor than 0bama and the Democrats. They has stripped them of the dignity of work by eliminating their job opportunities and keeping them hooked on the degrading assortment of government giveaways.
JohnW, please have mercy on the rest of us, if not her.
Kristen:
36.”JohnW, please have mercy on the rest of us, if not her.”
She makes it a valid question. She claims it’s evil, but I bet it’s one she has overlooked for own benefit. Just sayin’.
#31 Of course we all know that the majority of Catholics\, at least in the U.S., have had premarital sex and either support or do not oppose birth control.
Good survives. Evil doesn’t.
Comment by Suzie — November 18, 2012 @ 8:22 pm
Unfortunately, you put the lie to this pronouncement each time you post on this blog.
Good survives. Evil doesn’t.
Comment by Suzie — November 18, 2012 @ 8:22 pm
Unfortunately, you put the lie to this pronouncement each time you post on this blog.
Comment by dave — November 19, 2012 @ 12:06 pm
Judge not; lest ye be judged.
Neon Leon …
Sprinkle a little of that goodness and holiness
over in Suzies pasture.
God Almighty.
Suzie @ #35, I do appreciate your change in tone. That said, I believe that “contempt for the poor” was one of the primary reasons the Republican party lost the Presidency and lost seats in the Senate and House.
Apparently Suzie has either not been in a Catholic church in 50 years or she thinks all families are just naturally getting smaller. The disconnect would be scary if she really did have any power or influence. Denial is more than a river.
#31 Of course we all know that the majority of Catholics\, at least in the U.S., have had premarital sex and either support or do not oppose birth control.
“We” don’t know any such thing. Faithful Catholics don’t do those things.
I believe that “contempt for the poor” was one of the primary reasons the Republican party lost the Presidency and lost seats in the Senate and House.
I strongly disagree, nosaj. Conservatives are very generous to the poor; we just don’t believe taxpayer dollars should be used to promote dependency. We also believe promoting an environment which aids job creation is the most compassionate thing you can do for the poor.
Apparently Suzie has either not been in a Catholic church in 50 years or she thinks all families are just naturally getting smaller.
There are natural ways of practicing birth control that many Catholics use. It should be noted the communist objectives encourages the disintegration of the nuclear family and discourages procreation of children. Voila. Same as the Democrats. One and the same.
#44 “We” don’t know any such thing. Faithful Catholics don’t do those things.”
Snicker, snicker.
#44 “Eighty-eight percent of Catholics say the use of birth-control pills and condoms is morally acceptable. More than six in 10 Catholics say premarital sex is morally acceptable. ” (2004)
“In the most recent survey, conducted in 2008, only 14% of Catholics responded that premarital sex is “always wrong.” Among Catholics attending Mass at least once a week, 30% responded as such.
In other words, more than 70% of Church-going Catholics do not hold or agree to the teaching the Church and Scripture that premarital sex (fornication) is always wrong.
Read more: http://blog.beliefnet.com/deaconsbench/2010/10/is-pre-marital-sex-always-wrong.html#ixzz2CjZN4fHH
The plain truth is that almost everybody in the U.S. has sex outside of marriage at some time.
“…2000-year unbroken line of popes…”
Yes, and they were all just a swell bunch of guys, too. Take this guy, for example:
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/14138/Alexander-VI
“The plain truth is that almost everybody in the U.S. has sex outside of marriage at some time.” -gdad
“2000-year unbroken line of popes”
Breeding pedophiles, war criminals, and thieves, all the while retarding science and overall good for society for 2000 years. Evidently this is something to brag about.
In other words, more than 70% of Church-going Catholics do not hold or agree to the teaching the Church and Scripture that premarital sex (fornication) is always wrong.
If you investigate the internals, you’ll see it’s only college students who are polled. And from my experience, most “Catholic” college students are not faithful. They may go to the chapel folk mass once in awhile, but college Catholic organizations are often notoriously liberal, and sometimes disobedient to the church itself. When I was a college student, I attended a family parish church in town because the university church was just too out there. If Sandra Fluke is any sort of example, it just shows the success communists have had achieving goal #27
” Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with “social”
religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual
maturity, which does not need a “religious crutch.”"
College campuses are of course the most likely places the churches can be infiltrated. in addition, college age is a time when many kids are off on their own for the first time. It’s probably the least stable time of their lives. Ask them these questions when they are 40 and note the responses.
Yes, and they were all just a swell bunch of guys, too. Take this guy, for example:
Sure. Humans are humans. You are going to find a few bad people in every organization. But a 2000-year unbroken line amid the twists and turns and upheavals of the world is remarkable. Everyone would have to admit that. It’s clearly the hand of God.
#51 “you’ll see it’s only college students who are polled.”
No, suzie. You’re wrong.You’re grasping at straws and you know it.
“Among Catholics attending Mass at least once a week, 30% responded as such (that premarital sex is always wrong).”
If you go through my link, you’ll find this data was being quoted by Msgr. Charles Pope of the Archdiocese of Washington as proof that the church has a lot of work to do.
And guess what? Surveys also show that girls who go to Catholic schools are MUCH more likely to participate in “hooking up” than are girls who go to non-Catholic schools. Chew on that one.
#52 If it’s the hand of god, then god sure participated in some mighty bad things over the past 200 years.
Suzie:
“Ask them these questions when they [college students] are 40 and note the responses.”
HA! You’re in a rude awakening when those SAME people are 40.
Suzie:
“But a 2000-year unbroken line amid the twists and turns and upheavals of the world is remarkable. Everyone would have to admit that. It’s clearly the hand of God.”
EVERY living person has an unbroken 2,000 year lineage. Your religion is just hard-core about keeping a figure in office, that’s all.
I believe that all of those 2000 years of Popes and Priests have indeed seen the “hand of God” by now, and I am thankful for it. You cannot defend them, except, you do.
Do you truly not even see the contradiction in your own mantra? “Conservatives are very generous to the poor; we just don’t believe taxpayer dollars should be used to promote dependency“? Why does your supposed generosity NOT “promote dependency” if such a thing is the reality of a helping hand? Why would God tell us to be generous, kind, and look out for the widowed, orphaned, sick and poor yet want the government, the very people with the power to alleviate suffering, not to? You only prove your own lack of comprehension and hypocrisy with every post.
Everyone flourishes with support, a chance, an opportunity, a hand up, a mentor, an inspiration. NO ONE flourishes without any of them.
You do not, for one moment “believe promoting an environment which aids job creation is the most compassionate thing you can do“. You ALL (if we believe you are part of any damn business at all), do it for the money. You do it for the profit it allows you. If an evil, foul person such as yourself could make the money without workers, we ALL know you would do so in a freaking heartbeat. Business NEEDS workers to thrive and be profitable. Period. You have no more interest in “the poor” than most people of your ilk, you think your “charity” will buy you into Heaven. It won’t. You too will see “the hand of God” one day.