‘The crazy’ is just beginning to get wound up
• Business owner kills himself because Obama was re-elected, write “F— Obama” on his will.
• “So while there is no proof . . . there are a lot of smoke that would indicate that voting fraud occurred and occurred in a wide spread fashion in key states.”
• Georgia Tea Party briefing for state senators segues from Agenda 21 to Obama’s top-secret mind-control program (codename: Delphi) to turn the U.S. into a communist nation.
• 6.4 million evangelicals voted for Obama, who won by 3 million votes.
• Tea Party darling Rep. Allen West will not concede.
• Gingrich nomination to be House Speaker fails for lack of a second.
• Petreaus – Broadwell: Neocon honeytrap?
• Denny’s owner suggests patrons stiff servers on tips to cover restaurants’ Obamacare surcharge.
• Birthers launch robocall campaign to impeach Obama
November 15, 2012 - 8:00 AM
“So while there is no proof . . . there are a lot of smoke that would indicate that voting fraud occurred and occurred in a wide spread fashion in key states.”
So now we see where suzie is getting her nutty trolling ideas.
“Birthers launch robocall campaign to impeach Obama”
People like this are severely damaging our nation.
Someone in my wife’s church choir said this before the election. “I guess next week all of us women will be wearing Berka’s” Not sure about the spelling but I am sure I have not seen any yet!
http://www.redstate.com/2012/11/13/is-it-time-to-roll-up-the-welcome-mat-here/
Even Red State has had enough of the whining and complaining!
This really is crazy. Where does it all come from. Radio? Fox news? Church pulpits? I have heard my religious friends say some of this stuff but I do not know where they get it.
A close acquaintance of mine still does not believe Obama was born in the U.S.!
This may have already been linked by someone, but I find it pretty hilarious: http://www.theonion.com/video/after-obama-victory-shrieking-whitehot-sphere-of-p,30284/
“I guess next week all of us women will be wearing Berka’s”
I’ve heard that ignorant statement before. The problem is that it draws attention to the useless “Muslim” argument and away from the important “horribly irresponsible president” argument.
From Jane’s link at Red State:
“Barack Obama won the election.
He did not win by stealing the election. Voter irregularities always happen. It is one reason we support voter ID rules. But even in the worse scenario of reports out there, there were not enough tales of voter irregularities to matter nationwide. This is another benefit and built in safeguard of the electoral college.
Barack Obama won. He won by turning out the most people in a well run campaign. In other words, he won fair and square.”
From Paul Ryan: “He won fair and square,” Ryan said of Obama. “He got more votes, and that’s the way our system works, and so he ought to be congratulated for that.”
They’re just nuts. The upside is that, as long as the GOP refuses to acknowledge and address its problems, they won’t be winning any national elections.
Proof that the GOP is in trouble. If their ideas appeal to irrational people, what does that say about their ideas?
Craig, the burka comment is ironic coming from someone wearing a choir robe.
Kristen, I know right! They would prefer to vote for someone who wears magical underwear… OK… someone dips into the Jesus Juice a little much these days.
There’s also this story from the other day, about an Arizona woman who ran down her husband with her car because he didn’t vote: http://www.azfamily.com/news/Gilbert-woman-accused-of-running-over-husband-because-he-didnt-vote-last-week-179025331.html
She was afraid her family would suffer hardship if Obama was re-elected. Now she’s been charged with aggravated assault.
Crazies are everywhere! I really wanted to see Michael Moore’s senior citizens “Burn this Mutha ——- down.” What’s not crazy is that our economy is not getting significantly better,and there are signs things are turning for the worse again.
I wonder what the unemployment percentage would be if part-time jobs without benefits were at least partially excluded from being tallied in the employeed catagory?
“I wonder what the unemployment percentage would be if part-time jobs without benefits were at least partially excluded from being tallied in the employeed catagory?”
Another Chuck,
There’s a weak implication in your post that the Obama administration has changed the unemployment rate formula so as to including PT jobs that weren’t before, and thereby artificially lower the UE rate so it would look better.
Is that what you intended?
If not, you have have to go back and back out PT jobs from all the past UE data as well, to make a fair comparison.
If that’s what you want, of course.
This is the best thing that could happen to today’s conservative party. The smart people within it already know that they have to purge the poisons and expand the tent. The more these insane fringe elements expose themselves, the more the party can do to silence them or distance themselves from them.
The Tea Party experiment is over. The GOP embraced the TP when it was a genuine movement. They had hoped it would expand their base; it had the opposite effect instead. It gave a small group too much power and that power went straight to the TP’s head. Compromise was abandoned and a my-way-or-the-highway attitude took over. Ultimately, it cost the GOP yet another chance at the White House.
Do you hear that Tea Partiers? YOU cost the GOP the election. Not voter fraud. Not Mitt Romney. Not an allegedly illegitimate, half-breed president. You did it. You shot yourselves in the foot. How come you’re all so big on personal responsibility until it just happens to be your own fault? You lost because your candidates are loons and your platform and policies are inadequate. They have have been weighed and measured by the American people and found wanting. If you’re so enlightened, civilized and righteous, where is your grace in defeat? You’ve proven NOT to be a boon to a struggling party; you’ve proven to be a burr in the saddle. Thankfully, that can be rectified and that day seems to be getting ever-closer.
The GOP would do well to use this opportunity to rewrite the party platform. The far-right shift has been an abysmal failure and it’s evidently not what the majority of Americans want. Yes, there will be hardliners who will resist. Yes, there will be some alienation and disenfranchisement of the base. It’s time to muzzle the TP and put them back in line. It’s time to embrace a more positive message and rinse out the negative. It’s time to adapt. The Good Ol’ Boys Club of the GOP is a mastodon in an elephant’s world. Lose the fur and step into the 21st century… or just continue to lose.
@gdad: “It is one reason we support voter ID rules.”
Wow, can’t believe this statement came from so far left.
My question was not intended to be partisan. I just feel in general terms that the federal government is not honest with the public. This feeling is not limited to one party. For instance, if one is labeled “given up looking for work” they are not counted as being unemployed, but they sure aren’t employed. I believe there to be a huge “fudge” factor within that group.
I am in the process of laminating the Obama Conspiracy -O-Rama picture in the article below. I am making a dart board Christmas present for my Teapublican Obama Conspiracy friends. On second thought, I shouldn’t laminate them as new conspiracies are being hatched every day. I’ll just do color copies and send them updates over the next four years.
http://m.motherjones.com/politics/2012/10/chart-obama-conspiracy-theories
The recent “succession movements” – lead by ultra-patriotic, racist, misogynist, nationalistic, xenophobic, bible quoting, “freedom loving” Americans – are now ready to abandon the country they allege to revere -why? – because President Obama won the election by a landslide. I, for one, do not believe for one moment that this crazed reaction is spontaneous, but a coordinated effort, both directly and indirectly, by the same “deep pocket backers” that supported the teabagger “cause” – the same deluded old wealthy white men who dumped millions into the right-wing coffers.
So by their “succession movement”, one must infer that they want to destroy the “Christian” country they espouse is favored over all others by “their” god. Seems to make perfect sense – that is for those with minimal critical thinking skills unable to process the Illogicalness of their behavior. However, if they all would leave, I suspect the collective IQ of our nation would rise dramatically.
AC, I don’t disagree with you, but nothing has changed about the way we calculate unemployment in the US. And unless you’re going to adjust numbers all the way back, for comparison purposes we have to continue to calculate it the same way.
Kristen, Agreed…and I believe it should be adjusted back as well. Not to win political points, but to get a more accurate picture of the economic health of the country.
I hope all of us are aware that the fiscal debates going on are not about cutting spending at all. In DC talk, a spending cut is reducing the amount of proposed spending increases. Spending is still INCREASING! They only treat us like idiots because we allow them to.
You people always think the truth is “fudged”, that is what we refer to as “projection”:
“the attribution of one’s own ideas, feelings, or attitudes to other people or to objects; especially: the externalization of blame, guilt, or responsibility as a defense against anxiety”
In other words, you KNOW you do it, your side does it and therefore everyone else must as well. No amount of facts will change your mind, the whole nation is just wrong…until someone from your party is in charge again.
Sandi, I was totally non-partsan in my approach. Things are not going well in this country. Taxing the rich as proposed produces $68 billion in revenue…which solves nothing and is based in spite. You should consider removing your head from obama’s a….oops, the sand, before we are in a depression.
JMW @ 10:31 Wow, powerful words. It would be nice to get back to a two party system that offers legitimate choice. My guess is there were many on the fence voters who felt voting GOP would be like falling off a cliff. I would like to ask you though, should not the GOP itself be held accountable for not only welcoming the extremism of the TP but also acquiescing to it’s platform? Where were the GOP centrists and even traditional hardliners who had to have known this extremism could prove costly in the long run? I realize that whichever party is in the White House becomes the target, and the opposition, in this case the GOP, welcomed the TP with open arms hoping the more voters the better odds of winning. But let’s not kid ourselves. The TP did not just arise from a previously untapped pool of voters, they are more than likely 99.9% Republicans, disenfranchised folks but ardent voters (at least that is my impression). Would not casting the TP off into third party status actually hurt the GOP? I am really asking these questions as I don’t know myself. Maybe a ideological cleansing of the GOP is necessary and that short term losses would be sacrificed for long term gains? I guess what I am getting at is that when I look at the TP, I see the GOP. The GOP has IMHO shifted so far right that when the TP evolved it was not a matter of letting them join the ranks, they were already there! I don’t think it is just a matter of casting the TP aside, I think the GOP itself has some serious self reflection to do.
The GOP is all for spending cuts, except when they’re not:
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1112/83863.html
The latest wingnut Obama email being circulated by the unhinged crowd has to do with his wedding ring. It claims trhat he refuses to take it off and that it contains inscriptions in Arabic that prove that he is a Muslim
who is commiutted to destroying the western world. There are tons of people circulating this garbage and THEY ACTUALLY BELIEVE IT!
mr romney spoke his real feelings about this country a few nights ago…..there were legitimate reporters on the conference call so we know he spoke the words…..this after he lost the election by an overwhelming majority….the whole bunch of sleazeballs that make up the senate and the house of representatives will always be the self serving idiots they are…..nothing of substance will be accomplished as long as we have professional politicians….its time for term limits…..and campaign financing reform….i also noticed in an earlier post where obama was referred to as a half breed….tasteless to say the least
“Craig, the burka comment is ironic coming from someone wearing a choir robe.
Comment by Kristen — November 15, 2012 @ 9:47 am”
have you EVER seen a choir robe stupid? they do not cover your face and you can take them off and go out in public, man you sure are a whiney little nothing
Re: Sandi Saunders @ 12:39 pm
BINGO!
dave, the wedding ring thing is old and actually goes back to his first term.
“have you EVER seen a choir robe stupid? they do not cover your face and you can take them off and go out in public, man you sure are a whiney little nothing.”
–Comment by pammala
We bloggers here at the newspaper will be having a meeting/discussion in December and one of the big topics will be civility. It’s likely that you won’t see many comments like this after that, fyi.
Aww Dan, that one made me giggle.
“they do not cover your face and you can take them off and go out in public,”
Get OUT! I could actually take a burka off and go out in public too.
And pammallala, since you remain unconvinced of the charm of punctuation, let me invite you to read a brief lesson in its importance.
Lets eat grandma
Let’s eat, Grandma!
31. “dave, the wedding ring thing is old and actually goes back to his first term.” Comment by Dan Casey
Dan, because of the screwy “term accounting” used by Bush/Cheney apologists, from who was in office when 9/11 occurred to when the financial meltdown happened, please be more careful in your term identifications.
Dan @3:40, it’s about time.
THEN TELL SANDI, SHE STARTED IT A LOOOONG TIME AGO DANNYBOY
http://thoughtfulwomen.org/2012/11/13/islamists-demand-destruction-of-world-icon/
NICE PEOPLE HUH
Should we choose to let the Bush tax cuts expire for those earning $250K or more per year we would add $70 billion annually to the federal revenue stream. That’s $700 Billion over 10 years. If we reinstated inheritance taxes to pre-Bush tax cut levels, we would add $50 annually to federal revenues. $500 Billion over 10 years. You could add $150 billion annually ($1.5Trillion) to federal revenues by imposing a 0.5% tax on financial transactions. Those three steps reduce deficits by $2.7 Trillion over 10 years.
Republicans want to produce $700 Billion over 10 years by closing loopholes rather than returning tax rates back to the Clinton era rates. They don’t talk about which loopholes and they really don’t say $700 Billion, they just refer to closing loopholes.
Let us remind ourselves that the Bush tax cuts were designed to expire for a simple reason: their impact on the deficit. Sen. McConnell, Rep. Boehner, etc., etc., etc., all voted for the tax cuts and their expiration.
The Republicans appear to be adamant against raising the rates to achieve the same revenues. What’s the difference between asking the top 1% to pay an additional $400K annually in taxes by closing loopholes and asking them to pay an additional $400K by raising their tax rate by a whopping 4.6%?? They will tell you “job creation.” When they do that think back to 1993 and the sky-is-falling scenarios they painted then when the pre-Bush rates were put into effect. From 1993 to 2001 20 million jobs were created. From 2001 to 2007, the period after the Bush tax cuts took effect, only 7 million jobs were created. Only 2 million of those could be directly attributed to the tax cuts. I intentionally left out the last two years of the Bush presidency because I didn’t want the Great Recession to impact my point.
Bottom line is that the Republicans know that the K Street Lobbyists would gradually reinsert the loopholes in the tax code over a few years anyway. In short, I smell a RepubliCON.
Re: Dan Casey @ 3:40 pm
Outstanding!
I hope those with Facebook accounts can open this Dear Texas letter. I couldn’t find it anywhere but on Facebook.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=523806917639253&set=a.429122320441047.103062.429101477109798&type=1
That’s pretty good, Debbie.
Ron, the CBO says raising taxes 4.6% on the wealthy with cost us 200k jobs and that is my concern. There is also talk about raising capital gains and dividend taxes.
Cheers for the December meeting Dan..
Bravo.
I liked it, Dan.
The CRO (Congressional Research Office) says increasing taxes on the 1-2 percent has no effect on economic growth, but the Republicans in Congress have buried that report and that is my concern.
Dan, good news about the December civility meeting. Discussions will be richer without the insults.
Small item..
(and im covering my face as I do this.)
The most common spelling is “burqa”
Remember too..that under that burqa
is often lipstick..heels and Victorias Secret.
Suzie, sorry you don’t like Mother Jones. Could it have something to do with them breaking Romney’s back with the infamous 47% video? LMAO. cough…cough
“The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) concludes that letting the Bush-era tax cuts expire on schedule would strengthen long-term economic growth, on balance, if policymakers used the revenue saved to reduce deficits. In other words, any negative impact on economic growth from increasing taxes on high-income people would be more than offset by the positive effects of using the resulting revenue gain to reduce the budget deficit.”
Which CBO were you referring to Another Chuck?
Below is the link to the article from which I got my quote from the CBO. It’s from the last paragraph in the article.
http://jaredbernsteinblog.com/the-economic-impact-of-raising-taxes-on-high-income-households/
The CRO (Congressional Research Office) says increasing taxes on the 1-2 percent has no effect on economic growth
If it has no effect on economic growth, why do it?
Voter irregularities always happen. It is one reason we support voter ID rules. But even in the worse scenario of reports out there, there were not enough tales of voter irregularities to matter nationwide. This is another benefit and built in safeguard of the electoral college.
So Granddad is saying since Democrats always cheat, it’s OK. And some cheating is OK.
Do you tell that to your kid, Granddad? That some cheating is OK. What a great example.
If stealing elections in 100 Cuyahoga Co precincts is OK with you libs, what number becomes unacceptable? 200 precincts? The whole count? The whole state?
And how the hell is EC a safeguard to Democrat cheating? Hell, it landed them the decisive states in this election.
Another Chuck, you are not “totally non-partsan” in anything. Do you think we all just forget your posts after you have made them?
I am starting to think that Congress has never taken their own zealous campaign talk about the debt or the deficit seriously. If indeed they did, we would not have had the four years we have had. We would not be hurtling towards a “fiscal cliff” while they jockey for microphones and distort the facts. If all of this was so very important, so vital to our nation’s survival would you not think Congress would shape up at some point? No evidence exists so far.
I remember them screaming that the Reagan tax hikes would cause a recession…it did not. He created millions of jobs.
I remember them screaming that the Clinton tax hikes would cause a recession…it did not. He created even more millions of jobs.
I remember them chanting that the Bush tax cuts would create millions of jobs…they did not. He ended with barely a million jobs in 8 years.
I think Congress is about the last people we should believe on much of anything. GerryMander is not our friend. “Reliable districts” seem to be our mortal enemies.
I will believe there is a cliff when they do.
And here is another news flash, we are already losing jobs and nothing has been done to their taxes except lower them! The people who are mad or who will get mad and close are not the drivers of our economy, they are the Suzie’s of our economy, fair-weather friends.
I know that research has never been your strong suit pammala, but there are archives to prove that I did not “start” anything!
Dan, not for nothing but I hope the discussion does end most of the bitter, ugly and insulting posts with no substance, facts or reality attached. It is one thing to argue in a discussion and be passionate about what you believe, but you know that some only come here to stir it up and insult.
I know people tell you your popularity is based on the bile, but I do not believe that for a moment. BRC allows an awful lot of leeway for vileness and they never even begin to approach your levels of participation. YOU are the reason for the hits and don’t you dare let anyone say different!
The RT had more people when Dan R was there too. It is your (and his) engagement and participation that makes all the difference. Your sense of humor, honor and satire are none to shabby either so that does not hurt.
“You people always think the truth is “fudged”, that is what we refer to as “projection”:”
I know what you mean Sandi. I felt the same way when the liberals whine about voter suppression.
In the meantime, I’d like to thank Obama for the changes that Obamacare levied to flexible spending health accounts. Thanks to changes that went into effect in January, we can no longer use our flex account for OTC medication. It can only be used for co-pays, prescription drugs and non-medicines. So we can buy $1000 worth of band-aids and pregnancy tests, but no cough medicine, ibuprofen or nasal spray. Gee thanks Obama!
“Suzie, sorry you don’t like Mother Jones. Could it have something to do with them breaking Romney’s back with the infamous 47% video?”
Actually, Bill Perdue, the answer is “no.” What she object to is that Mother Jones tells the truth. Suze is not use to that; she regards it suspiciously.
Dan, if you’ll remeber, I was a big proponent of civility here when I came here a little more that a year ago. Unfortunately, civility didn’t mean much to half the bloggers here. I’m all for a climate of the way I generally speak with others on a daily basis and the way the other bloggers speak to one another in person from what I’ve seen. I don’t want to stifle free speech and will certainly miss Steve C’s occasional choke-slam-of-truth when a rude blogger deserves it, but it might be nice to see their professional sides emerge/re-emerge for a change.
Ladies in gentlemen in post #53, I just exposed the Democrats’ REAL agenda with taxes on the rich. Notice Dan failed to answer the simple question I asked of him.
He stated the CBO says tax increases on the rich wouldn’t affect the economy, and I asked “Then why do it”.
That was a checkmate question.
Now Dan is force to admit the sole objective can only be to punish the rich; not to help the economy. And that fits in with what 0bama is all about; hatred for the rich. That’s how he was brought up.
We bloggers here at the newspaper will be having a meeting/discussion in December and one of the big topics will be civility. It’s likely that you won’t see many comments like this after that, fyi.
Another effort to silence conservatives. Notice Dan holds a conservative’s post up as an example of incivility while the liberals are that way ten times as often.
“Ladies in gentlemen in post #53, I just exposed the Democrats’ REAL agenda with taxes on the rich. Notice Dan failed to answer the simple question I asked of him.
He stated the CBO says tax increases on the rich wouldn’t affect the economy, and I asked “Then why do it”.
That was a checkmate question.
Now Dan is force to admit the sole objective can only be to punish the rich; not to help the economy. And that fits in with what 0bama is all about; hatred for the rich. That’s how he was brought up.”
Notice, everyone, how Suzie is dancing to my tune. Ho ho. I’d take great pride in that, excapt that it’s kind of a guy exulting when a woman disrobes in a strip club. Pshaw. That’s what the dancers do.
The fact is, the CRO said tax increase on the rich did not hurt economic growth. And what they meant by that was, economic growth continued.
Meanwhile, the additional revenue helps close the deficit. And that can have a boig payoff down the line. Especially when it’s combined with the pay-go rules Clinton and the Democrats in Congress enacted in 1993, which set the stage for budget surpluses.
It is possible, likely even, that if we had held the course with those instead of blowing them up and instituting tax cuts when Bush took office, that the national debt would have been substantially paid down by now.
Of course, that was not to be, with a Republcian in the White House and Republicans in control in Congress.
Everyone knows they’re the biggest bunch of spenders in this country’s history.
Suzie:
“Another effort to silence conservatives. Notice Dan holds a conservative’s post up as an example of incivility while the liberals are that way ten times as often.”
The lefties are at least as bad, but more likely worse than the conservatives on average. When Suzie is factored into the conservative side, the conservatives become Nasty Inc. I’m sorry if you lose your outlet where all of your real-life passive aggressive behavior gets to come out in the safety of anonymity, but this isn’t the whole world to most people.
John W.
I just tell the truth in no uncertain terms. People here, you included, don’t think conservatives should be allowed to do that.
#62 suzie, you and pammala are without question the vilest posters on this blog. Except maybe DD, and he don’t come ’round here no more. pammie acts like a little infant most of the time. I can’t imagine what her family or friends (if she has any) would think of her if they saw the stuff she puts up here.
Cameltoebuma,
It is well established that you are a fan of Jay Leno and Tim Tebow. Do you like Andy Griffith?
Of course, that was not to be, with a Republcian in the White House and Republicans in control in Congress.
Everyone knows they’re the biggest bunch of spenders in this country’s history.
Comment by Dan Casey — November 15, 2012 @ 10:25 pm
Nope. . .Obama’s got them all beat. . .collectively. Watch out for the cliff. . .we’re close to the edge.
The tax on the rich effect on reducing the deficits created and being created by this corrupt administration will be like a fart in a windstorm.
Might, however, defray part of the cost of Obama’s next vacation or holiday.
5.A close acquaintance of mine still does not believe Obama was born in the U.S.!
Comment by scott whitaker — November 15, 2012 @ 9:12 am
Scott, it does not matter where Obama was born. By his own admission his
father was not a U.S. citizen. Therefore, Obama cannot be a natural born
citizen per definition of NBC derived from Supreme Court precedent in Minor versus Happersett (1875).
Obama won his second term because that’s what God wanted. Obama is a Christian.
Barack Obama will very likely be remembered as one of the top 5 greatest Presidents of all time.
#61 “Ladies in gentlemen”
The image of those words made me smile.
Somebody please call the waaahmbulance for suzie and pammala. Things are getting ugly.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/49981981@N02/4586731311/
Suzie:
“I just tell the truth in no uncertain terms. People here, you included, don’t think conservatives should be allowed to do that.”
Not at all. I think you should be able to tell whatever “truth” as you see it, but it will be interesting to see if you can do it without your signature nastiness.
Contrasuzie:
71.”Obama won his second term because that’s what God wanted.”
Yes, they have to admit this and that’s all in God’s plan. Going forward, expect to hear them talk of how God’s plan of bringing about the end times is accelerating and his allowing the people to re-elect Obama is a sign of the apocolypse. Seriously, you will hear this stuff.
“Barack Obama will very likely be remembered as one of the top 5 greatest Presidents of all time.”
Honestly, he’ll only be remembered for being the first black president whose birth origins were controversial, but the controversy was mostly fueled by uderlying racism. That’s how I think he’ll be remembered. It would take an obscene amount of political correctness to remember him as a great President…. Of course, there’s a second term to go and anything can happen.
Contra, I agree with you….history is going to see Obama as a great president.
Leon, Ive explained how you’re completely incorrect with that 1875 nonsense. The rules have changed several times since then. Obamas citizenship is not at issue….haven’t you noticed, the kool kids have all moved on to ballot fraud. Keep up.
#61 “Ladies in gentlemen”
The image of those words made me smile.
Comment by Debbie — November 16, 2012 @ 4:27 am
Perhaps the opposite would be true. However, I’m not sure the terms Ladies or Gentlemen would apply when it occurs. Just saying…
Obama won his second term because that’s what God wanted. Obama is a Christian.
Barack Obama will very likely be remembered as one of the top 5 greatest Presidents of all time.
Comment by Contrasuzie — November 16, 2012 @ 12:17 am
Bet you also believe it is theoretically possible to pick up a turd by it’s clean end.
Leon:
“Bet you also believe it is theoretically possible to pick up a turd by it’s clean end.”
Yeah, little does Contra know what a pro you are on this.
#76 Yes Ron, the opposite would be anatomically true.
It just made me smile, that instead of Ladies and gentlemen, she wrote Ladies in gentlemen.
Debbie,
A poor attempt at humor on my part. Sorry.
Bad taste on my part, Ron.
No problem on your part.
I don’t know about the birth issue, but I have a pretty idea why 0bama won’t release his papers from Columbia. it probably had something to do with a few essays on how he would work for the downfall of capitalism. It’s not a real stretch to call that one.
“I don’t know about the birth issue, but I have a pretty idea why Obama won’t release his papers from Columbia. it probably had something to do with a few essays on how he would work for the downfall of capitalism. It’s not a real stretch to call that one.”
That’s funny. I would have that that if Suzie had any ideas about Obama’s days at Columbia, they would be ugly, rather than pretty. It is nice to know she has incongruous episodes in which she views our president in the best light!
78.
Leon:
“Bet you also believe it is theoretically possible to pick up a turd by it’s clean end.”
Yeah, little does Contra know what a pro you are on this.
Comment by John Wilburn — November 16, 2012 @ 10:45 am
Nope JW. . .this is a liberal theory. . .your area of expertise. Do you have a clean end?
Leon, Ive explained how you’re completely incorrect with that 1875 nonsense. The rules have changed several times since then. Obamas citizenship is not at issue….haven’t you noticed, the kool kids have all moved on to ballot fraud. Keep up.
Comment by Kristen — November 16, 2012 @ 8:04 am
Lypocrisy Krusten. You have not explained anything. Minor vs Happersett is Supreme Court precedent which defines “natural born citizen” which is,
per the constitution, a requirement to be POTUS. Based on his own admissions and book, Obama does not meet the criteria. If you are so smart; refute it with facts; not lies. Ask your kool kids.
He did not win by stealing the election. Voter irregularities always happen. It is one reason we support voter ID rules. But even in the worse scenario of reports out there, there were not enough tales of voter irregularities to matter nationwide. This is another benefit and built in safeguard of the electoral college.
Comment by gdad — November 15, 2012 @ 9:20 am
1) To date I have read/heard that there are approximatley 70,000 reports of voting irregularities. These include Romney votes on electronic machines turning into Obama votes, suppression of the military vote, several counties in several states which went for Obama and reported more votes cast than registered voters and numerous cases of double voting some of which have resulted in arrests.
2) Obama apparently got 50.6% of the vote nationwide (50.8 in VA). These are not “mandate” margins.
3) If, in fact, there has been widespread voter fraud (and it appear to be so) it should be investigated thoroughly. After all, the election is not yet certified and the electors have not voted nor are they obligated to vote for a candidate.
4) The electoral college has nothing to do with voter fraud or it’s mitigation.
5) Gdud. . .you do not have a clue.
Dan, here’s another crazy for you. . .Lisa Jackson alias Richard Windsor.
The most transparent administration, Ever! LOL
Re: Leon @ 9:10 pm
I did, some time ago in an earlier thread.
Would you argue that you were not a human being, were the court to declare that a woman was a human being and yet intentionally not address the question of whether a man was a human being?
If not, why do you have such problems with Minor v. Happersett????
As is typical, SCOTUS only addressed the issue before the court. SCOTUS confirmed that “x” set of facts met the requirement of being a “natural born citizen.” SCOTUS very specifically said that they were not addressing other sets of facts (having no baring on the case before the court) that are argued by some authorities as meeting the requirement of being a “natural born citizen.”
See: http://tinyurl.com/9d7v6e
“Some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their parents. As to this class there have been doubts, but never as to the first. For the purposes of this case it is not necessary to solve these doubts.”
Search the case and show us where SCOTUS said that “x” set of facts were the only way to meet the requirement of being a “natural born citizen.”
Suzie:
82.”I don’t know about the birth issue, but I have a pretty idea why 0bama won’t release his papers from Columbia. it probably had something to do with a few essays on how he would work for the downfall of capitalism. It’s not a real stretch to call that one.”
I wouldn’t be shocked if that were the case, but just the downfall of capitalism in general is more likely. I do bet they’re not becoming of an aspiring president in any case.
Leon:
“Do you have a clean end?”
Wouldn’t you like to know. I, on the other hand, am not interested at all in your “end”.
I’m neither a lefty nor RWer, but do find it interesting that the leftwingers talk about taxes, reproductive issues, Obamacare, and justice where the RWers talk about nicknames for Obama, cameltoes, turds, and burkas.
Just sayin’
“RWers talk about nicknames for Obama, cameltoes, turds, and burkas.”
6th district Republicans have urged Bob Goodlatte not to support Speaker John Boehner, who spent the last 4 years stonewalling everything Obama, because he isn’t “conservative enough.” After their historic drubbing at the polls they are doubling down on stupidity. The demographics have changed, if the GOP doesn’t wake up to this they will soon go the way of the Whigs.
#86 Leon, buddy, that wasn’t my quote — I was merely demonstrating what some folks on a conservative site were saying. I guess they’re the “clueless” ones, eh?