The Post of the Day is a Christian’s rant against the GOP
Grafic by Dan
Note from Dan: To my knowledge, Janice G has never posted here before. From what I can tell, it appears she hails from Kansas. And man, does she unload below. Saturday, she posted this fine and passionate rant to an old thread from January 2011. It reeks of somebody who’s been there, and is living it, and it’s far to good to allow it to get lost there. You may have read Thomas Frank’s “What’s the Matter with Kansas?” What’s below suggests there’s great hope for that state yet. Janice G., hang in there.
By Janice G.
First I wish to say that I am an independent voter who used to vote Republican. I am a Christian who does not support abortion, nor do I support gay marriage. Oh yeah and I’m white, if that’s important — I know it is to the GOP.
Well here it goes:
I am so sick and tired of hearing the GOP bash the poor, the disabled, and those who work minimum-wage jobs and those who are unemployed and must have food stamps to feed their children, or who are on disability or SSI. My husband has a master’s degree, but is ill now, disabled and bed-bound.
I just went through a year of treatment for stage III breast cancer and I have 2 very gifted and top-of-the-class college sons, who would not be able to attend college without financial aid and student loans. It’s not like the days of Leave It to Beaver any more. I know — I was blessed to have one of those child-hoods. It’s time to recognize that things have changed and “the American dream” isn’t available to everyone anymore, no matter how hard you work and try to save!
There are many people who are among the “educated poor” like me. And there are many who are the “uneducated” poor. But they aren’t stupid, they’ve been quite educated in “the school of hard knocks” which quite a few of the GOP have never experienced, myself included. You talk about “ENTITLEMENTS” Rush, Fox New . . . OH BOY DON’T GET ME STARTED!. . . the “wealthy or well-offs” are the ones who feel they are “entitled” to everything: such as big bonuses and big perks!
Blaming the poor, who most often work 2 minimum wage jobs, and who are often single mothers working over a 12 hours day, is wrong. And and blaming them EVERY SINGLE DAY on your radio show is so out of touch, Rush!. . . as if they are thinking “wow, I must not buy these potatoes and this hamburger today with these food stamps for my hungry kids, because someone had to pay more taxes.”
No, Rush Limbaugh, they are hungry. Did you hear me? I said HUNGRY! For every dollar that goes to welfare or food stamps, over $3 goes to a large corporation, too big to fail! That’s a problem no matter who is in power — Democrats or Republicans. Example: AIG, which mismanaged over $180 billion dollars and continued to give big bones to their executives, who now want their own brand of “entitlements.” Hello, Santa Claus!
That cost our taxpayers way more than the sick and poor and unemployed in this country do! . . . Not to mention Goldman Sachs and many more. The GOP thinks that they are better than the rest of us, because they say they are the party of “hard-working responsible people” who are so proud of themselves to be lucky enough to stay healthy, and were able to make it through college and find a good paying job. What a joke.
Dripping with arrogance and self-righteousness, they put others down and call every poor person lazy and uneducated. That’s according to Rush Limbaugh, to whom I listened almost every day for several years — until I came to the realization that he deplores anyone who needs “Help” just to survive from day to day.
Hey, we just want to pay our rent, put gas in our car, make car repairs (that’s if we have one), pay car insurance and gas to get to and from work and to drive to our places of worship. Oh and by the way many of us have military spouses, sons and daughters who are fighting for this wonderful country too!
I don’t think Rush has studied the scriptures much, where Jesus says:
“When I was hungry, you gave me something to eat, when I was thirsty, you gave me something to drink, naked-clothing, in prison, you visited me, sick, you comforted me, and a stranger, you took me in. In as much as you have done it to the least of these my brothers you have done it to me!”
I love this country, and I’ve always worked hard, I currently pay rent, yet I feed and have taken in international students who have need, because no one else will, and families that had nowhere else to go, and because I believe the Lord Jesus is “entitled” to my service!
Hey Christian brothers and sisters, the GOP has highjacked you, they’re hoping you will vote against abortion and gay marriage, when all along they will do nothing about it, it’s just a dangling carrot in front of you, to distort your thinking to get you to think that the word Republican means Christian!
We, as Christians cannot expect nonbelievers to live as Christians, all we can do is try to BE like Jesus and do all we can to LOVE and give of ourselves to others, so that it will result in a conviction by the Holy Spirit, which can bring the lost to Christ, and then they will confront their own sins — as well as I must do — as we know all have sinned!
The majority of people in this country love this country and our constitution, but we need jobs, food, clothing, a roof over our heads, and encouragement!
The “turn-off” in this election was this: Rush Limbaugh and his followers believe that “lowly peasants” like me “want STUFF.”
What “stuff,” Rush?
Food? Good health? A tiny apartment away from the cold?
What stuff Rush? Hope?
A Bible to read? Some toilet paper? Medicine? Oh, yeah. I remember hearing how some poor single moms with little kids got a few cheap $10 phones so they could call 911 when danger arises! How deplorable that anyone get something for free? I could rattle on and on.
Oh yeah it’s called “class warfare.” No it’s not Rush! It’s called being “HUNGRY” get it? I don’t think so!
“Let him who has ears, hear what the Spirit has to say.”
The term “race card” gets brought up and laughed about on talk radio, too. God knows our hearts, maybe we should all take a second look at our judgements of other cultures and races, and what they’ve had to endure! Oh . . . but then we would have to humble ourselves before God!
Romney’s comment about the 47% had a lot to do with the election’s outcome. But he got that from YOU, Rush! You’ve been preaching that rhetoric every day on the radio for years, haven’t you Rush?
So yeah, Romney lost because YOU turned independents like ME off, Rush!
Hope you never lose your health or go HUNGRY or God forbid, run out of toilet paper.
Oh, and when you say that your talent is on “loan from God?” . . . Be VERY careful!
November 18, 2012 - 11:00 AM
Janice, I hope your cancer treatments worked and that it will not return. I’m sorry about your husbands illness.
Thank you for your post. I’m cynical enough to believe it will fall on mostly deaf ears, but hopeful that some will see the truth in what you wrote.
Welfare slavery is claiming more people every day. It is truly sad.
Janice G. is a Democrat shill. She gives it away in the first paragraph with a spurious dig at the GOP, unrelated to the rest of her theme: “Oh yeah and I’m white, if that’s important — I know it is to the GOP.”
She’s from Kansas and decides out of the blue to write to a newspaper 1000 miles away? I’ll bet this puppy has shown up in lots of leftwing publications around the country.
Suze, if Janice was truly looking for attention, she wouldn’t have posted her fine rant to a nearly 2-year-old thread on a blog.
My assumption is that she stumbled upon it with a Google search, didn’t realize the thread was that old, then emptied her heart and mind onto her keyboard. I edited the version presented here. Go ahead and compare it to the original.
It feels, smells and tastes 100 genuine.
Another righteous rant that everyone should read – but as usual, “no one is so blind than those who will not see” – so many RWers will blow it off like the highly partisan and blind most ill-informed. Doesn’t even recognize a genuinely eloquent rant of frustration…
Rush hasn’t missed a meal lately…hunger isnt anything he can relate to. Good post,Janice….I hope you come back and participate some more.
Nice rant… from a Christian that Jesus would actually like. (Reminds me of Sandi.) I especially liked her reference to what Jesus taught about helping the poor, which is totally ignored by the majority of that sad, self-righteous religion.
Go Janice! I agree with you and I too left the Republican party for the reasons you cite.
Re: Dave Gresham @ 12:49 pm
Maybe Suzie and others might pay more attention to their alleged prophet, Adam Smith, who in his major work on ethics and charity, The Theory of Moral Sentiments, wrote: “How selfish soever man may be supposed, there are evidently some principles in his nature which interest him in the fortune of others and render their happiness necessary to him though he derives nothing from it except the pleasure of seeing it.”
OTOH, might some here exceed Smith’s “How selfish soever man may be….”
Assuming ‘Janice’ is sincere, I’m not sure how she figures the job-gobbling Democrat Party is the better choice. But she ain’t seen nothing yet. Fasten your seatbelt for what’s down the road for the ‘poor’, honey. Those who fare the worst under a communist regime are always the ones at the bottom end;
Nice rant… from a Christian that Jesus would actually like. (Reminds me of Sandi.) I especially liked her reference to what Jesus taught about helping the poor, which is totally ignored by the majority of that sad, self-righteous religion.
Actually, Jesus exhorts people to help the poor through their own resources, which conservative do (and liberals don’t). But Jesus despises despotic regimes that trample on the poor. 0bama is certainly no friend of Christians, and that is typical of communists.
Dan, do you know what you are asking Suzie to do? Do you really think she can tell if something is genuine? Doubtful.
#4 “It feels, smells and tastes 100 genuine.”
suzie wouldn’t know “genuine” if it bit her on the…
hey Suzie,
Gee, toto, we’re sure not in Kansas anymore… I don’t think ol’ janice g is really that far away…., and she might not even be a she, ya know?
Great rant Janice, more need to wake up and smell the coffee
As a nice illustration of Janice’s point and a perfect example of the real world of today, here’s another poor deprived health insurance provider just struggling to make ends meet and fighting to survive because of the ACA. Poor babies!
http://health.yahoo.net/news/s/nm/cigna-sees-increase-in-2013-earnings-revenue
Janice, thank you for giving me hope today. You do not give up, and you make the best of what you’ve got. Such perseverance is inspirational – and instructive. People like Janice are why things will be okay. She models for her children virtues like charity and perseverance, and these are the values that will carry this country out of its current morass. These are the folks voting for Obama and against conservatives. They are more tolerant and more community-minded. They understand that the welfare of the many is far more important than the welfare of the few. May this Thanksgiving bring you and your family good health and great fulfillment.
I, too, vote Republican for the most part, but have not and will not ever listen to Rush Limbaugh. As long as people listen to the garbage spouted by Rush or anyone else, they’ll always be misled. Following the teachings of Christ is the only justified way to have peace and contentment, no matter what your situation may be. He is without judgement and knows our needs. We must live humbly in the face of much criticism and hate directed toward Christianity.
“Gee, toto, we’re sure not in Kansas anymore… I don’t think ol’ janice g is really that far away…”
Frank, I looked up her IP address and it’s from Kansas. If you have any other info, please put it out there. Or are you simply blowing smoke like normal?
hey dano,
i’m glad you thought to check ol’ janice out.
is it male or female?
is it related to a lib blogger….who happens to live in the Roanoke or surrounding area?
Our church delivered 50 plus Thanksgiving boxes today with at least $50 (most of $75-$100) worth of food each to needy families. Those mean ole Christians!
the re-pub-likens are a bunch of angry old men….overweight and over bearing rush…..the traitor John Mccain….the spoiled child romney…..the under achieving bum from lindsey graham…. and old jowls from kentucky…..mitch mcdonald…..and of course the tea party bums…..no wonder the re-pub-liken party is in decline….kooks like susie are all thats left for them
Frank, all you can tell from the IP address is the general vicinity the person is posting from.
God bless your church, Maloof, and those who made the deliveries. I’m sure the recipients were grateful.
I’m not a liberal, despite what SuzieQ says. Nonetheless, I’d prefer to be thought a liberal than a conservative these days. The link below says why.
http://www.prosebeforehos.com/political-ironing/02/07/lawrence-odonnell-liberals-conservatives-quote/
She models for her children virtues like charity and perseverance, and these are the values that will carry this country out of its current morass. These are the folks voting for Obama and against conservatives.
Not really. The people voting 0bama did so because of the freebies. The values of dependency and entitlement will only get our country into a deeper morass.
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I wouldn’t doubt it at all, Frank.
How many on this blog have said they have voted GOP in the past? The party has left us, we have not left the party. Janice G says it so much better than I ever could.
Amen sister.
Janice’s story was moving and I can empathize with her. Janice I hope you have a nice Thanksgiving and please ignore the remarks of those here who aren’t so compassionate. I think they voted for the other guy.
Suzie, do you make unsubstantiated claims like this in your everyday life?
“Not really. The people voting 0bama did so because of the freebies. The values of dependency and entitlement will only get our country into a deeper morass.”
If we are to accept your illogical statement as truth, then everyone who voted for Romney, did so out of greed and ignorance. The rich in this country feel entitled to have everyone pay their way in this country and feel dependent upon the tax cuts for the wealthy. That is the real truth here.
Your recent trip to Africa…? Was it to purchase raw materials outside of the US? Or was it to proselytize your faith and steal the culture of a peoples who resent you? Or was it for vacation? I bet you brought condoms…
Amen!
I wonder if Janice even knows she got POD.
Frank:
“i’m glad you [Dan] thought to check ol’ janice out.
is it male or female?”
Do you still not know how to tell, Frank?
hey john wilburn,
…well, john, …i’m surprised that there’s still anyone left who takes internet handles at face value, but i don’t.
Frank, did you miss this comment? Although I do like John Wilburn’s response better.
23.Frank, all you can tell from the IP address is the general vicinity the person is posting from.
Comment by Dan Casey — November 18, 2012 @ 7:15 pm
#21 Good job, Maloof. And my wife’s church will be doing the same, but for Christmas. They’ll do about 200 boxes, and I’ll be donating to and helping pack them.
John,
Frank obviously doesn’t take the “shift” key at face value either…
Frank:
“…well, john, …i’m surprised that there’s still anyone left who takes internet handles at face value, but i don’t.”
Neither do I, but I think “Frank” is your real name and you are male. I don’t think “Suzie” is her real name, but I do think she’s female. I think “Suzie” is a young sock-hop sounding name she picked to post by.
Justin True:
“Frank obviously doesn’t take the “shift” key at face value either…”
LOL! I was just thinking the same thing.
hey justin nazi,
i think i see a story in the “shift” key…
You can always tell when a thread topic or commentary makes sense, the Right Wingers lose theirs. It is predictable as sunrise.
Janice, may God Bless and Keep you!
Lay off the drugs, Frank (Joe) Dirt.
John W @12:47
Maybe suzie’s real name is “Bertha,” as in in the Grateful Dead song.
“That’s why, if you please,
I am on my bended knees,
Bertha don’t you come around here anymore”
hey Debbie,
re:#23, yeah, ol’ dano couldn’t tell if ol’ janice g was a girl or a guy. sad. only that he/she’s “from kansas.”
Frank, We don’t know if you’re “Frank” or “Francis”.
Suzie, do you make unsubstantiated claims like this in your everyday life?
“Not really. The people voting 0bama did so because of the freebies. The values of dependency and entitlement will only get our country into a deeper morass.”
Justin True,
What does a tally of 880 to 13 in Melrose mean to you? Do you think if was foreign policy that swayed those 99% that went for 0bama? Maybe his handling of Sandy?
Get smart, friend.
“Kristen says:
Frank, We don’t know if you’re “Frank” or “Francis”.
Posted on November 19th, 2012″
Nor do we care.
hey kristen,
no, i guess you don’t… or, Frances, or Franklin, or Bill, John, Jack, or even Sue. But, I bet you’re …Kristen.
hey Contra,
sure you do, or you wouldn’t have climbed on to Kristen’s post.
Yeah, “get smart” like Suzie and be clueless! I think it was the residue of the racism that almost every person of color in this nation saw in Romney. That YOU did not see it, still refuse to see it, only makes it all the more glaring. You simply and literally have no clue. The church he is so proud to serve did not even ordain black men until 1978! This is not rocket science. Plenty of people in Melrose work for a living. They just saw nothing in Romney. Neither did I and 62 million other Americans.
Amen Contrasuzie! It is not as if you add anything to any discussion!
Sandi Saunders:
“I think it was the residue of the racism that almost every person of color in this nation saw in Romney.”
I think black people get a pass for voting for a candidate becuase of his race where white people don’t get a pass for voting againt a candidate because of his race. It’s not intelligent voting for either and I won’t defend it.
The church he is so proud to serve did not even ordain black men until 1978! This is not rocket science. Plenty of people in Melrose work for a living. They just saw nothing in Romney. Neither did I and 62 million other Americans.
Roanoke’s public schools didn’t integrate blacks until the 70′s either. That means public schools are racist.
As for the Melrose voters? Nah, it was the freebies. And the cheating.
John Wilburn, #52
I think that Ms. Saunders was talking about that, Romney, was a Mormon when his religion supported racism, and then still felt the effects of not only his racism but his faith’s as well. The diverse cultures of this country did not vote for Romney because of his prior discrimination, not because he is white.
I get your point, and I definitely agree. But I don’t think that was she was trying to say…
Justin True, yes that was Sandi’s point, but I was commenting on Suzie’s point. I don’t think there was as much cheating as she implies, though. All I’m saying is that the black vote was influenced much more by race and their own racism than the white vote, not that either are okay.
#53 Notice that in suzie’s continuing talk about cheating, she’s produced not one shred of hard evidence. Neither had the Repub Party.
#53 “That means public schools are racist.”
Why, yes, they were, suzie. I went to those schools then and in the 60s. It wasn’t so much that most of the kids were racist, it was the adults one and two generations older.
Suzie,,,
You are leaving out a couple of important “elements”
God is a big one…
It seems Nate Silver thinks that Obama was up about 1 1/2 going into final week..Then came Sandy.
Silver thinks Sandy may have been a 1 or 1 1/2 boost…leading to 3.0
point advcantage in the final numbers.
Was the deity padding it a little in the interest of leveling
the playing field ( and Republican voter suppression)?? Or was Sandy just sent by the devil just to make it an interisting contest?
And tieing Saul Alinsky to this horrible Demonic outcome will get you your
own self 1 1/2 exrta insanity points. Drink yourself a morning Red Bull and get to work.
Suzie #53,
Yes, Suzie, the school system was racist, and so were the people running the schools then. To say that the folks who ran the school then aren’t still racist or a closet racist, would be a lie.
Thank you Justin, you are correct. The percentage of people who voted for Romney because Obama was black is larger than the percentage that voted for Obama because Romney was white. I would bet my life on that.
Romney was uncomfortable with any minority, from women, to Hispanics, to African-Americans, to immigrants of all the color spectrum and cultures, and it showed. His devout faith in his church was also an issue for many religious minority folks. Ignoring the truth to pretend 62 million people will “get something” from Obama that we would not have gotten from Romney defies American history. Or did you clods actually believe he would end the safety nets, gay and women’s rights? Seriously?
Sandi Saunders:
“The percentage of people who voted for Romney because Obama was black is larger than the percentage that voted for Obama because Romney was white. I would bet my life on that.”
That’s ture, but this is even more accurate:
The percentage of white people who voted for Romney because Obama was black is smaller than the percentage of black people who voted for Obama because Obama was black. I would bet my life on that.
#53 Notice that in suzie’s continuing talk about cheating, she’s produced not one shred of hard evidence. Neither had the Repub Party.
The evidence is the results themselves. 100 precincts in one Ohio county going 99% for 0bama? 59 precincts in one Pennsylvania going 100% for 0bama? There’s no way.
Yes, Suzie, the school system was racist, and so were the people running the schools then. To say that the folks who ran the school then aren’t still racist or a closet racist, would be a lie.
That’s my point. Society as a whole was more racist then. Sandi made is sound like only Mormons were.
I did no such thing. It is a fact and it is a fact that any voter is more than welcome to take into account. Roanoke City Schools were fully integrated by 1970. What other denomination would not ordain a black man by 1976? Why do you think any voter, much less a minority voter should overlook that?
“What other denomination would not ordain a black man by 1976? Why do you think any voter, much less a minority voter should overlook that?”
Christian Identity, for one.
The Mormon Church was way late in its ordination of blacks. Good for them that they finally realized that. What makes it weird for me is that it had to come from a revelation by God through the church’s president & prophet. Why would God wait so long to hand that one down?
#62 IOW, you haven’t a shred of evidence of cheating. And neither does Romney or the Rethugs. All we have is the failed right-wing voter suppression campaign.
Devil’s advocate.
The Mormon church in it’s original form did accept and ordain black men. However, Brigham Young’s additions and skewed teachings of original doctrine ended that.
There is your random Mormon fact for the day from the husband.
That being said, I wonder how long it will take Mormonism to become a “cult” again after the fall of the great Mitt? It wasn’t that long ago when the majority of MSC (main stream Christians) ridiculed them for their beliefs and practices. Fact.
Dan, why should a god have to hand anything like that down? It seems like a bit of common sense to me. Religion always seems to find a way to mask inhumane acts through “God’s intentions”, or “God told me”. God seems to speak to a lot of people, but changes his views and principals more than Romney ever did.
I think we humans need to find our truth, and stick to our moral code. I think we would be much happier that way.
MikeC:
“There is your random Mormon fact for the day from the husband.”
Whose husband?
It was just a month ago when Billy Graham, and P. Rob from CBN, considered Mormonism to be a problem, and considered them a cult.
“It wasn’t that long ago when the majority of MSC (main stream Christians) ridiculed them for their beliefs and practices. Fact.” -MikeC
Also… Mormons have always thought that Black people were direct descendants of Lucifer. The only time in the past that Black people were allowed to be in a Mormon church was to convert them so they could be the white owners slave in the afterlife…
A short video on Mormon beliefs,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Ip4qQnz2fFo
Justin True:
72.”A short video on Mormon beliefs”
That video is hilarious! If all the “space sex” was real, that would be an easy religion for which to recruit! When your religion believes so much insane crap that majic underwear doesn’t even make the highlight reel, please quit defending it.
Here’s another winner:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzSwBsgHHXI&feature=related
John W – My husband, who was raised Mormon.