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“I love Bill Clinton. I think we should make him king. I’m talking the red robe, the turkey leg – everything.”
Tim McGraw

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  1. Mike Scott | November 20, 2012 at 11:05 am

    Well,

    On campaign season over and another starts. Marco Rubio, the newly appointed savior of republican ideas and perspective delivery man of the latino vote speaks to GQ.

    http://www.gq.com/news-politics/politics/201212/marco-rubio-interview-gq-december-2012?printable=true&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitte

    “GQ: How old do you think the Earth is?

    Marco Rubio: I’m not a scientist, man. I can tell you what recorded history says, I can tell you what the Bible says, but I think that’s a dispute amongst theologians and I think it has nothing to do with the gross domestic product or economic growth of the United States. I think the age of the universe has zero to do with how our economy is going to grow. I’m not a scientist. I don’t think I’m qualified to answer a question like that. At the end of the day, I think there are multiple theories out there on how the universe was created and I think this is a country where people should have the opportunity to teach them all. I think parents should be able to teach their kids what their faith says, what science says. Whether the Earth was created in 7 days, or 7 actual eras, I’m not sure we’ll ever be able to answer that. It’s one of the great mysteries. ”

    Actually, I think the great mystery is why republicans magically gravitate toward this particular kind of ignorance.

  2. Frank | November 20, 2012 at 11:06 am

    sooo, i wonder if morsi is thinking, “why are the Americans sending us a turkey, ’cause we don’t celebrate Thanksgiving?”

    the hamas folks who spent their childhood in the U.S. are by now getting re-acquainted with the old tune, “Heeere I Come To Save the Dayyy!”

    she’s on the way to plead hamas’ case for Israel to stop kicking their butt.

  3. Kristen | November 20, 2012 at 11:28 am

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/20/rupert-murdoch-chris-christie-obama_n_2164885.html

    This is really amazing. Murdoch isn’t even an American. He needs to keep his garbage-swilling cell-phone-hacking snout out of American politics.

  4. dave | November 20, 2012 at 11:41 am

    The biggest “turkey” in the 2012 election finally gopt over the delusional shock and conceded today. To quote a line from an old country song–”Thank God and Greyhound he’s gone”.

    http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/allen-west-concedes-newcomer-patrick-murphy-132059203–election.html

  5. Debbie | November 20, 2012 at 12:29 pm

    Who is Rupert Murdoch to tell anyone what they must do. He may tell his employees what to do, but no one else has to listen to anything he has to say, much less follow his orders.

  6. JackJM | November 20, 2012 at 12:36 pm

    While we can still do this in the public marketplace, I thank God for America and the ability to argue with all you wrong-headed liberals. :)

  7. Frank | November 20, 2012 at 12:42 pm

    hey there davie,

    yep, the libs beat a black republican.

  8. Sandi Saunders | November 20, 2012 at 1:11 pm

    Frank, innocent children, women and non-militants are dying, could you show a modicum of decency? Israel, as always is retaliating with 50 times the proportion to their losses. This is a sad and ugly situation that needs no cheerleaders.

  9. Frank | November 20, 2012 at 1:33 pm

    Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz in 2016.

  10. joe | November 20, 2012 at 2:20 pm

    Mr Rubio,,,
    If we can not discount the 7 day
    theory you still apparently cling to
    you may have whittled yourself out of the early
    running. Which day did the dinosaurs arrive..
    Did Jesus actually ride one in the worlds first rodeo?
    The Mississippi River being carved out by a big man
    dragging an axe..is that still a working theory?

  11. John Wilburn | November 20, 2012 at 3:08 pm

    Shrillary and others, here is an example of something where I disagree with the political actions of real estate. It concerns eminent domian:

    http://www.varealtor.com/news/2012/11/varbuzz-eminent-domain-amendment-passes-but-be-wary

    “While it certainly seems like a good idea to prevent government from taking property simply for economic development or redevelopment, we should also be aware that there ARE cases when it is good and right and necessary. When poverty and crime are so rampant in an area that the people — all of us — need to step in and say “Enough.”

    I disagree with this. I don’t care how poor someone is or how hard they have to defend their home from crime, it should be their choice as to whether to stay. Imagine a governement that stifles one’s ability to fight crime, then takes their property because of that same government’s failure to honor those people’s rights in the first place. A poor area is no excuse either. Buy them out willingly, sure. Force them to take a buyout they don’t want, no.

  12. dave | November 20, 2012 at 3:52 pm

    Gomer@12:42

    What they defeated was a troglodyte and one of the most extremeist of the extreme conspiracy theorists in the Congress. And just fyi, have you noticed how few black Republicans there are? Wonder why that s?

  13. Frank | November 20, 2012 at 3:59 pm

    sandi, sandi, sandi,

    according to you, Israel should let their citizens live in fear of the missles which rocket into Isreal almost daily…count the number of dead citizens they have…and then, when they decide that enough of their citizens have have died or been injured…then they can ONLY do the same to Hamas?

    Seriously, is THAT your position? In other words, if only more Israelis would die, THEN the playing field would be even, and that’s ok?

    If hamas really wants peace, all the terrorists need do is stop lobbing missles into Israel.

  14. Frank | November 20, 2012 at 4:06 pm

    hey davie,

    I think it’s ’cause black conservatives face pretty strong peer pressure, and pressure from the overseers in the democrat party, to stay supportive of the party which sees to it that they have every thing they need.

  15. scott whitaker | November 20, 2012 at 4:20 pm

    #14 Their overseers Frank? Make sure they have everything they have? Really, what do they “have” Frank? So they vote Republican then what? Go on…

  16. Art Hill | November 20, 2012 at 4:52 pm

    Yo, Frank.

    If you had a brain, which you don’t, you’d realize that the Gaza conflict is much more complicated than Gretchen Carlson tells you it is. Do us all a favor and quit pontificating on a subject you know nothing about. Thanks in advance!

  17. mike o | November 20, 2012 at 5:06 pm

    scott,
    Apparently they have enough “free” food support that they can sell what they don’t need for cash, they have “free” housing, “free” education (even upper education, if they choose to make it past H.S.), they have “free” health care and plenty of “free” time since many choose not to find work… oh they also have the “free” obamaphone.

    What they don’t have is any real sense of “freedom” and the “responsibility” that comes with it; which actually brings a sense of self worth.

    I am truly amazed at the number of liberals who believe they have somehow “lucked into” success and are so embarrassed by their “fortune” they decide it is up to “government (taxpayer)” to take this mental burden from them by creating an entire class of government dependant people.

    Maybe some liberals actually have “lucked into” some cushy taxpayer funded job, or have found ways to game the system to their benefit. However, that is no reason to enslave the next generation into their selfish lifestyle.

  18. Frank | November 20, 2012 at 5:48 pm

    Hey Scott,

    The republicans would focus their energies to getting the economy running again and produce the jobs that many people have been doing without for, like, the last 4 years. This would ESPECIALLY help the black community…ya know?

    Instead, we have had obuma running around the country and putting his energy into all the condoms betty wants, and soaking the rich to pay for ‘em.

  19. mike o | November 20, 2012 at 5:48 pm

    Frank,
    Sandi knows less about international affairs than she does about domestic issues (not as many “talking points” on liberal websites for international issues I suppose).

    Sandi… quick education…, iran has vowed to “wipe Israel off the map” (and they are only one of many arming this continued shelling of Israel). Iran has Israel outnumbered 10 to 1 and that is just one of the countries that wants to see the Israeli population “disappear” (think hitler).

    Israel is very fortunate that (against liberal wishes) Reagan moved ahead with interceptor technology, or you may have your wish, and Israel might be destroyed already, (but most likely (and rightfully) they would have used nuclear weapons).

    Sandi, where is your indignation with those “animals” dragging “Israeli sympathizers” bodies down the streets of gaza behind motorcycles? Or the use of “children” as suicide bombers? Or the bombing of Israeli schools?

    Sandi, please do some study…

  20. dave | November 20, 2012 at 6:08 pm

    Gomer still longs for the days of the overseers and pickin that cotton for ole massa. And that’s the America that the southern republicans are nostalgic for

  21. Frank | November 20, 2012 at 6:15 pm

    hey folks,

    i suspect many of us remember the music we came of age with. For me, it was the Beach Boys, Beetles, Stones, Doors, Moody Blues, Pink Floyd, David Bowie, and Ian Anderson, whose “Locomotive Breath” is my all-time favorite.

    That said, good ol’ paul mccartney has suggested that we all just forget about consuming turkey on Thanksgiving. Paul McCartney. I was an early fan of Wings. Paul M. could do no wrong. After all, he was the “good” Beatle. Well, I’m unhappy to announce that I now think Paul’s gone bad…in my humble opinion. In a nod to his peta-ism, paul is imploring us to “not eat turkey” on Thanksgiving. ok. I follow what my celebrity rock stars say.

    not.

  22. Dan Casey | November 20, 2012 at 6:16 pm

    We’re not eating turkey for Thanksgiving.

  23. Art Hill | November 20, 2012 at 6:31 pm

    “(think hitler).’

    (Think stupid.)

  24. mike o | November 20, 2012 at 6:34 pm

    Does anyone have a concern that our president can’t even get the names right of the people who he goes to visit???
    OK, he has a long flight… they tell him who he is going to see… they give him the names… and he still screws it up…
    Is that inept?, lack of intelligence? Arrogance? Or what???

  25. Ron May | November 20, 2012 at 6:54 pm

    Frank,

    Just to make you feel a little better, my family will be eating deep fried turkey, some ham, oysters, clams, crab cakes and assorted other delicacies at Thanksgiving. I don’t get too uptight about what folks like Sir Paul are doing for Thanksgiving. It’s not even his holiday. :)

  26. colorado max | November 20, 2012 at 6:58 pm

    i guess not, you’re too cheap to buy it. CHEAP, CHEAP, CHEAP

  27. Art Hill | November 20, 2012 at 7:13 pm

    From NOAA; aerial photos of damage from Hurricane Sandy before and after.

  28. Frank | November 20, 2012 at 7:16 pm

    was it because of paul mccartney?

  29. Debbie | November 20, 2012 at 7:17 pm

    Paul McCartney has been a vegetarian for years. No surprise that he’s saying don’t eat turkeys. No surprise that the majority of Americans won’t be heeding his advice either.

  30. Debbie | November 20, 2012 at 7:18 pm

    Dan, are you having ribs and lobster this year?

  31. Frank | November 20, 2012 at 7:20 pm

    hey davie,

    no, no, no, there you go again. “Those” days you speak of remain with us today. just look at the democrat party. then look at the unemployment rate. then look at the unemployment rate for black Americans.

    surely, you and you Bobsey Twin side-kick gdud can figure the rest of it out.

    support democrats. get a hand-out. not a job. simple.

  32. Frank | November 20, 2012 at 7:21 pm

    hey Mike O,

    Well said.

  33. Frank | November 20, 2012 at 7:23 pm

    hy scott whitaker,

    Simple. They stand a much better chance of getting a job. then becoming a tax payer.

  34. Frank | November 20, 2012 at 7:24 pm

    hey artie,

    you just said a whole lot of nuthin’.

  35. scott whitaker | November 20, 2012 at 7:34 pm

    God that’s pathetic Frank ya know? Pathetically racist. BTW frankie your rich are being soaked at one of the lowest rates since 1925.

    from your posts why am I surprised in your music preferences. seriously thought it would have been more along the lines of tommy dorsey, artie shaw, boston pops, even barry manilow. tee hee i imagine your great grandkids rockin’ to nickelback. rock on dudes…

  36. Kristen | November 20, 2012 at 7:41 pm

    I’d be stunned if Gretchen Carlson could find Israel on a map of the middle east.

  37. Shrillary | November 20, 2012 at 7:48 pm

    Comment by John Wilburn — November 20, 2012 @ 3:08 pm

    I voted against the eminent domain ballot question. Making it a VA constitutional issue increases the costs for any land owner to defend against the taking of their property.

    I am also against seizing an individual’s property for any reason. We owned about 50 acres in NJ. The county took 10 of the acres under eminent domain for park lands. This was prime real estate and we were compensated a paltry amount. In land ownership, the landowners rights get should not be superseded by what some politician deems “good”, “right”, and “necessary”. Those are subjective criteria.

    Whether considered a “blighted” area or not, private property should not be confiscated under any guise…a dilapidated home may be someone’s castle….

  38. Sandi Saunders | November 20, 2012 at 7:58 pm

    Frank, I realize you have no clue, but for something to be “according to” me, it means I have either said it or mentioned my support of it. I have never, not once said or supported anyone saying “Israel should let their citizens live in fear of the missles which rocket into Isreal almost daily“. Never. Not once.

    “THAT” is not my “position”. But I do not find anything funny about people on either side dying or living in fear as you appear to.

    Peace in that troubled land is about a lot more than not “lobbing missles” on either side. It is sad that you cannot see that.

  39. Dan Casey | November 20, 2012 at 8:01 pm

    Debbie, no we’re having pulled pork, homemade slaw mac n cheese, and other stuff. We’re not big turkey fans.

    One of my election bets was with a friend, the notoriously right-wing Capt. Paul. If Romney won, I owed him crab cakes. If Obama won, he owed me a smoked Boston butt. He makes the best I’ve ever had anywhere. So I’m collecting for Thanksgiving.

  40. Sandi Saunders | November 20, 2012 at 8:04 pm

    Mike O, when the day comes that you can “educate” me, I will leave this blog for good. I did not say I supported any act of terror or brutality committed by anyone. Is English your second language or are you just illiterate?

  41. Sandi Saunders | November 20, 2012 at 8:10 pm

    Properties and communities do not become “blighted” overnight and it looks like some cities choose to let go rather than invest in some neighborhoods and I think that is a dereliction of duty. I am against taking property without a fair market price being offered and only in rare cases I cannot think of off hand, for anything other than highways, schools or medical facilities. But it is also true that some property owners fight and make things harder and more expensive than they needed to be for projects that are important. Shopping malls, upscale housing and even parks is not a fair take use IMO.

  42. Sandi Saunders | November 20, 2012 at 8:10 pm

    Way to bet smart and collect smart Dan!

  43. Debbie | November 20, 2012 at 8:12 pm

    Sounds wonderful to me, Dan!

  44. Warren | November 20, 2012 at 8:20 pm

    #19, mike o thinks he’ll give someone else a “quick education” about the mideast, and then proceeds to say that “Israel is very fortunate that (against liberal wishes) Reagan moved ahead with interceptor technology, or you may have your wish, and Israel might be destroyed already.

    mike o, your study of the facts rates an F minus. The “Iron Dome” technology used by Israel is a technology that was developed by the Israelis themselves, and the Rafael Technology company that did so has some of the most advanced technologies in the world, which DID NOT depend on the fanciful and so far scantly operational “Star Wars” hyped projects that Reagan ran up huge deficits with.

    I’m betting you’re too proud to admit you didn’t know awhat the hell you saying, and were just spouting simplistic hick generalities about a very complex situation. Or if not, man up and tell us how you’d reconcile the PA with Hamas, while assuring Israel of it’s safety and keeping the Egyptian governing coalition assuaged, while also containg the civil war in Syria and having Hezbollah’s influence in Lebananon limited from these other areas, while avoiding an undue burden on Jordan’s resources, while maintaining some progressive momentum in Iraq, while being sure the Turks don’t overreact to Kurds, Syria, Iraq or Iran, while disarming Iran’s nuclear ambitions, for starters. Because, after all, you’ve studied the situation.

    אתה חמור בורה

  45. Warren | November 20, 2012 at 8:20 pm

    Lebanon

  46. John Wilburn | November 20, 2012 at 8:23 pm

    Shrillary:

    “Whether considered a “blighted” area or not, private property should not be confiscated under any guise…a dilapidated home may be someone’s castle….”

    Fist bump for Shrillary!

  47. Sandi Saunders | November 20, 2012 at 8:23 pm

    Thanks Art #27, that is a real eye opener!

  48. Contrasuzie | November 20, 2012 at 8:25 pm

    “Ian Anderson, whose “Locomotive Breath” is my all-time favorite.”

    Well, crap. I just died a little inside…..

  49. John Wilburn | November 20, 2012 at 8:30 pm

    Kristen:

    36.”I’d be stunned if Gretchen Carlson could find Israel on a map of the middle east.”

    She’s good looking. Who cares.

  50. Warren | November 20, 2012 at 8:31 pm

    “Beetles”
    And once again Frank demonstrates that his idiotic lack of awareness has been in place for at least a half century. Nice attention to detail you’ve always had there, F man.

    I well recall how when they arrived with their initial teen pop success some guys who were already listening to the same sources that the Beatles listened to, but their adolescent audience didn’t, used to deride their first US lp “Meet The Beatles” as “Beat The Meatles”. Now I know the name of one of the kids they were mocking.

  51. Dan Casey | November 20, 2012 at 8:54 pm

    Warren’s right. Star Wars never produced much, except for lots of money in one of my relative’s pockets. Because of that and the Bayh-Dole Act, he has done very well.

  52. Dan Casey | November 20, 2012 at 8:59 pm

    “A Higgs Boson walks into a church. The priest says, “Huh. This is the last place I’d expect to see you.”

    The Higgs Boson says “What do you mean? You can’t have Mass without me!”

  53. Frank | November 20, 2012 at 9:04 pm

    Hey warren,

    I’m not the scholar you apparently fancy yourself to be…but, i”ll venture a guess that if obuma had stood tall with the Israeli Prime Minister, instead of publicly treating him as he, well, did…and had obuma bothered to actually like, visit Israel during his middle east trip (i mean, how do ya go to the middle east and not, like, at least stop over in Israel.. ya know?)…things couldn’t have ended up worse than they are now, and perhaps Israel wouldn’t have felt so, well, isolated, and compelled to act on it’s own to quell the violence.

    It’s not like obuma was actually DOING something …effective… to quell Hamas’ escalating bombing of Israel….right? What did I miss? Huh?

  54. Frank | November 20, 2012 at 9:07 pm

    hey sandi…it takes 2 things to get educated:

    1. a mind

    2. a mind that’s open.

    you do not appear capable of being educated, sandi.

  55. Art Hill | November 20, 2012 at 9:08 pm

    “She’s good looking. Who cares.”

    Beauty is in the eye of the beerholder.

  56. J.M. White | November 20, 2012 at 9:08 pm

    “A Higgs Boson walks into a church. The priest says, “Huh. This is the last place I’d expect to see you.”

    The Higgs Boson says “What do you mean? You can’t have Mass without me!”

    Comment by Dan Casey — November 20, 2012 @ 8:59 pm

    haHA! Physical comedy

  57. Frank | November 20, 2012 at 9:13 pm

    hey scottie,

    nuthin’ wrong with the Boston Pops, in my opinion.

    you can have barry manilow. you probably also swooned over tom jones and englebert humperdinck along with the rest of the girls. and i bet you kept a poster of tiny tim in your closet…

    you too, warren!

  58. Frank | November 20, 2012 at 9:17 pm

    hey Contra, you just went up a notch in my book.

    Jethro and the doors and …., was a great way to enjoy life.

  59. Frank | November 20, 2012 at 9:23 pm

    sandi,

    i’m with you regarding the casualties and deaths. but in a military action, I firmly believe in winning to the extent that my opponent wants peace.

    By the way, why do you think Hamas places their rocket launchers in or near schools, hospitals, and places of worship?

  60. Dan Casey | November 20, 2012 at 9:37 pm

    “it takes 2 things to get educated:
    1. a mind
    2. a mind that’s open.
    you do not appear capable of being educated”

    That’s Frank, gazing into the mirror . . . again!

  61. Sandi Saunders | November 20, 2012 at 10:07 pm

    Yeah, that Frank is sure a role model for open mindedness and intelligence. It is clearly my defect not to embrace what he offers.

  62. Kristen | November 20, 2012 at 10:12 pm

    Frank, sometimes it’s ok to just shut the heck up. Take a break.

  63. Richard J Beason CPA | November 20, 2012 at 10:23 pm

    Dan, love the jokes.

    In Roanoke for a couple days, look forward to Shorefire, Half Moon, and Lazy Man.

    For you RWers, I have a real hard time with all the RW bashing of Romney. This is the guy you wanted for president and now all I hear on TV is how lousy he was. Wow, you almost made him president. Yet, it turns out none of you liked him. Pretty sorry of the GOP to nominate someone they never even liked.

    At the very least they should have stood by him for a week or two.

  64. Dan Casey | November 20, 2012 at 10:39 pm

    Richard Beason, we miss you!

  65. Contrasuzie | November 20, 2012 at 11:00 pm

    Hey franko,
    The Doors sucked. Manzarek wasted his talent with that band. I agree with the rest of your statement. And still, I die a li’l more inside because of it.

  66. Nosaj | November 20, 2012 at 11:22 pm

    Good news today for Virginia and the rest of the U.S. Senator Mark Warner will forgo another run for governor and remain in the Senate. I think he would be a formidable candidate for President in 2016, as would Hillary Clinton.

  67. gdad | November 21, 2012 at 12:39 am

    Frank was obviously on another bender today. What stupidity.

  68. Frank | November 21, 2012 at 8:00 am

    hey contra,

    after giving it some thought, I’d have to say that “LA Woman” ranks right up there with Locomotive Breath”.

  69. mike o | November 21, 2012 at 5:16 pm

    Warren,
    You are simply incorrect… Reagan championed the vision and pushed to infuse money into the advancement towards reality, he may not have lived to see his entire vision come true but the “iron dome” is a pretty good start….

    In your defense, I think you confuse liberal concept of truth like obama saying “he killed bin laden” (meaning he actually shot they guy). To realistic statements like “thank Reagan” for moving the US and our allies towards a safety that liberals (at the time) believed unrealistic.

    Nice try though….

    As for my “simple” solution; I would start by insuring that everyone in the region knew that they were either our “friend” or our “enemy” and that we would protect our “friends”.

    I certainly would not “kowtow” to any “leader”; and would make sure that our interests were clear.

    I would unleash the energy potential in the U.S. so that we were not dependent on that region and then let those who were not our “friends” kill each other off as they seem to want to do when there are no “Americans” or “Jews” available.

    Sandi, re: “when the day comes that you can “educate” me, I will leave this blog for good.”
    Don’t go away mad…

    Btw.. did I miss where you posted your “indignation with those “animals” dragging “Israeli sympathizers” bodies down the streets of gaza behind motorcycles?
    Oh sorry, I forgot, you have left “for good”…

  70. Sandi Saunders | November 21, 2012 at 9:23 pm

    Mike O, you are unbelievable, and FYI, that is not a compliment.

  71. Warren | November 21, 2012 at 9:47 pm

    mike o, you’re awfully simplistic in your understanding of the Mideast. For example, you said:

    “As for my “simple” solution; I would start by insuring that everyone in the region knew that they were either our “friend” or our “enemy” and that we would protect our “friends”.

    Well, mike o, what if, as often happens in the Mideast, two of what you’d call our friends are enemies of each other? The salient example is Fatah and Hamas, but there are many more. Or do you think Israel, Jordan, Turkey and Saudia Arabia are our only friends?

    We are not the overlords of anyone, anywhere in the world, and we’ll only come to grief trying to be. For one thing we, the great and powerful United States, DON’T have a comprehensive anti-missile technology deployed that can give the coverage that geographically tiny Israel receives from it’s own HOMEGROWN technology right now. Despite your desire to award Reagan credit for their innovations, he deserves none. And in case you don’t realize it, mike o, Walker Texas Ranger was fiction.

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