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  1. Kristen | December 15, 2012 at 9:16 am

    It seems the teachers in that school did an amazing job of keeping their kids safe and calm, to the point that a lot of them had no idea anything was amiss. Impressive.

  2. Shrillary | December 15, 2012 at 9:25 am

    Has anyone else seen the new Hobbit movie? I was sorely disappointed…

  3. Debbie | December 15, 2012 at 9:53 am

    If anyone would like to send a card or letter of condolence, here is the address of the CT school.
    Sandy Hook Elementary School
    12 Dickinson Drive
    Sandy Hook, CT 06482

  4. Laura | December 15, 2012 at 10:11 am

    I enjoyed it, Shrillary (I’m a fan of Richard Armitage, so he alone made it worth the price of admission for me), but it was overlong, and wild horses couldn’t drag me to see it in 3D or 48fps, which is what Peter Jackson wants us to do.

  5. Debbie | December 15, 2012 at 10:41 am

    It is impressive, Kristen. That and the fact that someone in the office turned on the intercom to alert the teachers to what was happening.

    My heart aches for all of those who lost family members, especially those who lost their babies, although as a mother my adult daughter is still my baby no matter how old she may be. All I could think when reading about it yesterday afternoon, was those could have been my grandchildren. I can only imagine the pain the families are going through.

  6. Shrillary | December 15, 2012 at 1:01 pm

    Laura @4 – Richard Armitage was outstanding in his role – and he is easy on the eyes. He’s kind of a tall dwarf, no?I found the overdone scenes of running hither and yon boring, and more video game like than the previous LOTR movies.

  7. dobbs | December 15, 2012 at 2:59 pm

    I could be wrong, but I seem to remember something about someone on here that really likes the Golden Corral.

    http://news.softpedia.com/news/Golden-Corral-Restaurant-Closes-Following-167-Reported-Cases-of-Food-Poisoning-315029.shtml

  8. Kristen | December 15, 2012 at 3:55 pm

    I bet it’s that Chocolate Fountain. It’s e.coli for your soft ice cream.

  9. Suzie | December 16, 2012 at 6:33 am

    I could be wrong, but I seem to remember something about someone on here that really likes the Golden Corral.

    I certainly hope all the victims weren’t the “poor and hungry” putting the meal on their SNAP cards.

    I wonder if Mike Scott checked out the GC last night to observe the concentration of minorities like we talked about.

  10. gdad | December 16, 2012 at 10:37 am

    “I wonder if Mike Scott checked out the GC last night to observe the concentration of minorities like we talked about.”

    And the racial makeup at the GC matters why?

    suzie, always bringing up race for no reason at all.

  11. dave | December 16, 2012 at 11:43 am

    Seems like thge bloom is off the GC for Suzie now. Too many of those “other” people eat there now.

  12. Debbie | December 16, 2012 at 1:07 pm
  13. Debbie | December 16, 2012 at 1:44 pm

    My heart aches for these parents too. Take the time to read this article.

    “I am sharing this story because I am Adam Lanza’s mother. I am Dylan Klebold’s and Eric Harris’s mother. I am Jason Holmes’s mother. I am Jared Loughner’s mother. I am Seung-Hui Cho’s mother. And these boys-and their mothers-need help. In the wake of another horrific national tragedy, it’s easy to talk about guns. But it’s time to talk about mental illness.”
    http://gawker.com/5968818/i-am-adam-lanzas-mother

  14. Henry | December 16, 2012 at 1:53 pm

    Christmas just came early for Dan. The mom was a Prepper.

  15. Dave Hicks | December 16, 2012 at 1:55 pm

    Re: Debbie @ 1:44 pm

    Heart wrenching!

  16. Debbie | December 16, 2012 at 2:00 pm

    Yes it certainly is, Dave Hicks @1:55 pm.

  17. pammala | December 16, 2012 at 2:48 pm

    really Debbie, your heart aches for these parents..what about the children that are aborted every day, feel sorry for them as well do you? death is death.

  18. Shrillary | December 16, 2012 at 2:55 pm

    Debbie – thanks for the link. I hope everyone clicks on it and reads it in its entirety. The social worker in the article unfortunately was correct. As a social worker, many many mentally ill children wind up in the “system” – usually in a juvenile facility woefully understaffed and ill prepared for these children. Without proper treatment, without an assigned psychologist or psychiatrist, without medication specific to their mental illness, these juveniles will eventually enter the adult system. Once they are adults (18+) they would need to specifically seek out help – which they rarely do – and as a result, they are left untreated and eventually incarcerated.
    Early intervention is the key – funding and providing access to community based mental health clinics would at least begin to address the problems brought out in the link you posted.

  19. Kristen | December 16, 2012 at 3:38 pm

    Such a sad story, Debbie.
    I think the only thing worse than being the parent of one of the victims of these tragedies is being the parent of the perpetrator. Parents who have children suffering severe mental illness have nothing but my sympathy. There are so few answers.

  20. Kristen | December 16, 2012 at 3:42 pm

    I’ve seen the show “Preppers” and commented to a friend that Nat Geo was basically taking advantage of mental illness and turning it into entertainment, along the lines of “Hoarders” or one of the other modern-day electronic freak shows we’re offered on television. Who knows how extreme Lanza’s mother was, but most of the households on that show have children among them, and those children are being brought up in an atmosphere of instability and heavy-duty paranoia. I find parents that make their small children spend their days preparing to be overrun by ravaging marauders to be abusive.

  21. Kristen | December 16, 2012 at 3:44 pm

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/16/von-meyer-indiana-school-guns_n_2311717.html

    So, does this guy get to keep his guns?

    “A northern Indiana man who allegedly threatened to “kill as many people as he could” at an elementary school near his home was arrested by officers who later found 47 guns and ammunition hidden throughout his home.”

  22. Steve C | December 16, 2012 at 3:51 pm

    Dave @ 11:43

    Which is weird because about two years ago she accused me of being racist after I mocked the GC’s clientele.

    Consistently inconsistent if nothing else, I tell you. She can’t even keep her own story straight anymore.

  23. Mike Scott | December 16, 2012 at 4:37 pm

    @9

    Nope,did not. Had a good meal at Wonju Korean restaurant and the night before we hit the 1906 Ale house and had nice evening with friends. I never did question your assertion that you saw a bunch of minorities at GC. I did ask you provide evidence SNAP benefits could be used in VA to purchase meals there. I can’t find evidence that Va. allows benefits to be used in that way. That being the case, the part of your narrative that links black people or minorities, SNAP benefits, and the GC is likely just a devise to stir the blog plot. You are welcome to provide evidence now. If you do, I’d be more likely to see the invisible dots you seek to connect.

    Not that I haven’t eaten more than a few meals at the GC. I once lived in Hartsville, South Carolina, for several months in the early 1980′s and it was the least suckiest option of anything else to eat. That and Yogi Bear’s Honey Dipped Fried Chicken. There were also a bunch of minorities who ate there, presumably because it was also the least suckiets option they had as well.

  24. Debbie | December 16, 2012 at 5:21 pm

    Hillary and Kristen, I agree with your comments. I posted the link on Facebook and a friend who has two brothers suffering from mental illness wrote about how hard it was to be a sibling growing up. She said it was, “frightening, embarrassing, stressful and that there are no easy answers.” She said people really don’t have a clue what it’s like.

    Unfortunately while we understandably have great sympathy for the families of the victims as we should, most people don’t think about the perpetrators family being victims also. Sometimes being a good parent isn’t enough, especially when it’s hard to get the help that’s needed.

  25. dobbs | December 16, 2012 at 6:38 pm

    Just for grins, I sent an email to Golden Corral, asking about its policy regarding SNAP. If they respond, I’ll post it on that day’s open thread.

  26. Dave Hicks | December 16, 2012 at 7:37 pm

    Now for a little good news on the most current open thread:

    http://tinyurl.com/clw9g9x

    **
    Boehner offers to take debt limit off the table

    By Lori Montgomeryand Paul Kane, Sunday, December 16, 7:19 PM

    House Speaker John A. Boehner has offered to push any fight over the federal debt limit off for a year, a major concession that would deprive Republicans of leverage in the budget battle but is breathing new life into stalled talks over the year-end “fiscal cliff.”

    The offer came Friday, according to people in both parties familiar with the talks, as part of the latest effort by Boehner (R-Ohio) to strike a deal with President Obama to replace more than $500 billion in painful deficit-reduction measures set to take effect in January.

    SNIP

    Many Republicans had argued that party leaders should use the threat of default to demand additional spending cuts from Obama. But Boehner’s offer would head off that potentially nasty fight — at least until the end of next year.

    SNIP
    **

  27. Shrillary | December 16, 2012 at 8:13 pm

    Here’s an interesting Christmas fact. The live Christmas tree you may have in your home has basically the same genome as pine and spruce trees that were around when dinosaurs roamed!

    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/12/121213132542.htm

  28. Mike Scott | December 16, 2012 at 8:29 pm

    @23…devise = device

  29. joe | December 16, 2012 at 9:47 pm

    Shrill…
    you might want to go to a place where u can dig through
    some coal heaps…when I was a kid Id go through ours at home..
    I used to find a lot of plant and tree fossils..WVA coal is loaded with them
    240-570 million years old..
    http://www.wvencyclopedia.org/articles/2059

  30. Shrillary | December 17, 2012 at 8:49 am

    Joe – thanks for the link.

    We at one time owned a 60 ac farm in upstate NY and in every stream their were rocks bearing the imprint of all sorts of plants – as a child I was impressed, but because there were so many never collected any. Of course now I wish I had…

  31. gdad | December 17, 2012 at 8:52 am

    “Which is weird because about two years ago she accused me of being racist after I mocked the GC’s clientele.”

    Same with me. But you know suzie has admitted in the past that she often trolls several sites at a time, so it’s no wonder she can’t keep things straight. What a sad existence.

  32. Suzie | December 17, 2012 at 9:39 pm

    Seems like thge bloom is off the GC for Suzie now. Too many of those “other” people eat there now.

    It’s you libs who trash every place black people frequent; Walmart, Golden Corral, La Cove. You people talk a great game, but you won’t go around those “other people’.

  33. gdad | December 18, 2012 at 9:16 am

    “La Cove.”

    Trashing a place that no longer exists? suzie’s going back to 3-year-old trolling topics now. What desperation.

  34. Ron May | December 18, 2012 at 9:33 am

    I don’t frequent Golden Corral because of the food not the company. I dont’ frequent Walmart because of the company not the people. Never been to La Cove.

  35. gdad | December 18, 2012 at 9:58 am

    Ron, you can’t go to La Cove because it’s been closed for years now. But suzie didn’t realize it was no longer open when she started talking three years ago about how she went there often and that proved she isn’t racist.

  36. Debbie | December 18, 2012 at 10:14 am

    +1 Ron’s comment @ 9:33 am.

    There are no “other” people, there are only human beings. This valley is full of small independently owned restaurants that I have never been to. You can’t go everywhere. My neighborhood is downtown, I support my restaurant owning neighbors.

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