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		<title>By: J.M. White</title>
		<link>http://blogs.roanoke.com/dancasey/2012/12/theyre-tead-off-at-federal-spending/#comment-259704</link>
		<dc:creator>J.M. White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2013 02:50:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Comment by Another Chuck — December 31, 2012 @ 2:29 pm&lt;/i&gt;

How do you quantify supposition? Specifically, where do you get accurate numbers on &quot;if the Bush tax cuts&quot; had never been enacted? Accuracy of quantification is never contingent on data that is inherently unquantifiable. That&#039;s absurdly paradoxical. How exactly does one factor in an unknown, let alone do it retroactively? If the current &lt;i&gt;hard&lt;/i&gt; numbers are required to be modified by what-might-have-beens, where does it stop?

If the Bush tax cuts weren&#039;t enacted...
If equatorial Africa received regular rainfall...
If a frog had wings...

If the people who&#039;ve been in charge of this country for the last thirty years had been doing their freaking jobs and not been worried about lining their buddies&#039; pockets, &lt;i&gt;everyone&lt;/i&gt; in this country would be better off. It&#039;s not a party problem; it&#039;s a greed problem. Greed knows no political affiliation; it&#039;s endemic. The camel is already in the tent.

We&#039;re to blame. We&#039;ve allowed this corruption of our country to occur and we&#039;ve even welcomed it at times. It&#039;s past time to do something about it and they know it. So they play us all. They keep us divided. It&#039;s all about responsibility, but it&#039;s always the other guys&#039; fault. Lie, distort, twist, deflect... it&#039;s a heinous manipulation of the citizenry.

May 2013 be the year that the collective pop of our heads being pulled from our asses is heard &#039;round the world. We&#039;ve been asleep at the wheel for far too long. Let&#039;s take our pointing fingers, rest them against our temple and start thinking about how we can clean up this god-awful mess and get &lt;b&gt;EVERYONE&lt;/b&gt; back on track. We&#039;re all in this together.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Comment by Another Chuck — December 31, 2012 @ 2:29 pm</i></p>
<p>How do you quantify supposition? Specifically, where do you get accurate numbers on &#8220;if the Bush tax cuts&#8221; had never been enacted? Accuracy of quantification is never contingent on data that is inherently unquantifiable. That&#8217;s absurdly paradoxical. How exactly does one factor in an unknown, let alone do it retroactively? If the current <i>hard</i> numbers are required to be modified by what-might-have-beens, where does it stop?</p>
<p>If the Bush tax cuts weren&#8217;t enacted&#8230;<br />
If equatorial Africa received regular rainfall&#8230;<br />
If a frog had wings&#8230;</p>
<p>If the people who&#8217;ve been in charge of this country for the last thirty years had been doing their freaking jobs and not been worried about lining their buddies&#8217; pockets, <i>everyone</i> in this country would be better off. It&#8217;s not a party problem; it&#8217;s a greed problem. Greed knows no political affiliation; it&#8217;s endemic. The camel is already in the tent.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re to blame. We&#8217;ve allowed this corruption of our country to occur and we&#8217;ve even welcomed it at times. It&#8217;s past time to do something about it and they know it. So they play us all. They keep us divided. It&#8217;s all about responsibility, but it&#8217;s always the other guys&#8217; fault. Lie, distort, twist, deflect&#8230; it&#8217;s a heinous manipulation of the citizenry.</p>
<p>May 2013 be the year that the collective pop of our heads being pulled from our asses is heard &#8217;round the world. We&#8217;ve been asleep at the wheel for far too long. Let&#8217;s take our pointing fingers, rest them against our temple and start thinking about how we can clean up this god-awful mess and get <b>EVERYONE</b> back on track. We&#8217;re all in this together.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron May</title>
		<link>http://blogs.roanoke.com/dancasey/2012/12/theyre-tead-off-at-federal-spending/#comment-259676</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron May</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2013 01:34:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[AC,

  http://www.offthechartsblog.org/what%E2%80%99s-driving-projected-debt/

The numbers AC, are not mine.  They were produced by the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities.  They reflect the real impact of Bush tax cuts on deficits from 2001 through 2111.  Numbers forward from that are projections.  The cuts themselves, perhaps, would have had no impact, if GWB &amp; the Republican Congressional majority had not also done away with the Pay As You Go Rules.  In other words the revenue losses from the tax cuts would have had to have been offset by spending cuts somewhere else in the budget.  GWB &amp; his colleagues doubled down by not making any offsetting cuts.  Additionally, they put 2 unnecessary (in my view) wars and the Medicare Drug Benefit on the national credit card.  Finally, they voted routinely to raise the federal debt limit with little thought.  However, hypocritically they now expound endlessly today, and I mean today, how increasing the federal debt limit is akin to treason. As a result, folks like Boehner, McConnell, Ryan, Cantor, et. al. have little if any credibility.  

Try to do all you wish with smoke, mirrors, mumbo jumbo or whatever you want to call it AC, it&#039;s just a big stinking pile of you know what.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AC,</p>
<p>  <a href="http://www.offthechartsblog.org/what%E2%80%99s-driving-projected-debt/" rel="nofollow">http://www.offthechartsblog.org/what%E2%80%99s-driving-projected-debt/</a></p>
<p>The numbers AC, are not mine.  They were produced by the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities.  They reflect the real impact of Bush tax cuts on deficits from 2001 through 2111.  Numbers forward from that are projections.  The cuts themselves, perhaps, would have had no impact, if GWB &amp; the Republican Congressional majority had not also done away with the Pay As You Go Rules.  In other words the revenue losses from the tax cuts would have had to have been offset by spending cuts somewhere else in the budget.  GWB &amp; his colleagues doubled down by not making any offsetting cuts.  Additionally, they put 2 unnecessary (in my view) wars and the Medicare Drug Benefit on the national credit card.  Finally, they voted routinely to raise the federal debt limit with little thought.  However, hypocritically they now expound endlessly today, and I mean today, how increasing the federal debt limit is akin to treason. As a result, folks like Boehner, McConnell, Ryan, Cantor, et. al. have little if any credibility.  </p>
<p>Try to do all you wish with smoke, mirrors, mumbo jumbo or whatever you want to call it AC, it&#8217;s just a big stinking pile of you know what.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron MayZ</title>
		<link>http://blogs.roanoke.com/dancasey/2012/12/theyre-tead-off-at-federal-spending/#comment-259660</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron MayZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2013 01:06:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[AC,

And you can call me Ray or you can call me Jay for all we know.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AC,</p>
<p>And you can call me Ray or you can call me Jay for all we know.</p>
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		<title>By: Another Chuck</title>
		<link>http://blogs.roanoke.com/dancasey/2012/12/theyre-tead-off-at-federal-spending/#comment-259496</link>
		<dc:creator>Another Chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2012 19:29:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ron, what you have not factored in is the unknown affect on revenue if the Bush cuts had never be inacted. I imagine they had somewhat of a positive influence on the private sector during a time of economic weakness.  These factors are tought to quantify, but conversely, you cannot quantify your numbers accurately without assessing these other potential influences.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ron, what you have not factored in is the unknown affect on revenue if the Bush cuts had never be inacted. I imagine they had somewhat of a positive influence on the private sector during a time of economic weakness.  These factors are tought to quantify, but conversely, you cannot quantify your numbers accurately without assessing these other potential influences.</p>
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		<title>By: gdad</title>
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		<dc:creator>gdad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2012 14:37:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In fact, Art Hill, let&#039;s add another to suzie&#039;s long list of sadly bad calls. Earlier in the football season, our favorite trolling type person  indicated that the Broncos were paying and would continue to pay for getting rid of Christian inspirational benchwarmer dude Tim Tebow. Others of us who know sports a whole lot better, assured suzie that Denver was MUCH better off with Peyton Manning.

Now, tell us, suzie, where did Denver finish at the end of the regular season?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In fact, Art Hill, let&#8217;s add another to suzie&#8217;s long list of sadly bad calls. Earlier in the football season, our favorite trolling type person  indicated that the Broncos were paying and would continue to pay for getting rid of Christian inspirational benchwarmer dude Tim Tebow. Others of us who know sports a whole lot better, assured suzie that Denver was MUCH better off with Peyton Manning.</p>
<p>Now, tell us, suzie, where did Denver finish at the end of the regular season?</p>
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		<title>By: Art Hill</title>
		<link>http://blogs.roanoke.com/dancasey/2012/12/theyre-tead-off-at-federal-spending/#comment-259232</link>
		<dc:creator>Art Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2012 07:33:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;&quot;suzie hasn’t “called” anything lately.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

The guy has definitely lost his edge.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>&#8220;suzie hasn’t “called” anything lately.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>The guy has definitely lost his edge.</p>
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		<title>By: gdad</title>
		<link>http://blogs.roanoke.com/dancasey/2012/12/theyre-tead-off-at-federal-spending/#comment-259187</link>
		<dc:creator>gdad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2012 04:57:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[suzie hasn&#039;t &quot;called&quot; anything lately.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>suzie hasn&#8217;t &#8220;called&#8221; anything lately.</p>
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		<title>By: Suzie</title>
		<link>http://blogs.roanoke.com/dancasey/2012/12/theyre-tead-off-at-federal-spending/#comment-259116</link>
		<dc:creator>Suzie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2012 02:33:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt; They’re on the dole, like many other corps.&lt;/em&gt;

LOL.  Did Suzie call this or what?   Blaming corporations for laws made by the government. Just like Dan blamed Liberty U for government Pell Grant policies.   Just like they blamed the banks for Fannie Mae&#039;s relaxed lending standards that caused the economic collapse.  

 I know libs better than they know themselves.  They couldn&#039;t own up to their responsibilities if their lives depended on it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em> They’re on the dole, like many other corps.</em></p>
<p>LOL.  Did Suzie call this or what?   Blaming corporations for laws made by the government. Just like Dan blamed Liberty U for government Pell Grant policies.   Just like they blamed the banks for Fannie Mae&#8217;s relaxed lending standards that caused the economic collapse.  </p>
<p> I know libs better than they know themselves.  They couldn&#8217;t own up to their responsibilities if their lives depended on it.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Casey</title>
		<link>http://blogs.roanoke.com/dancasey/2012/12/theyre-tead-off-at-federal-spending/#comment-259108</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Casey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2012 02:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Suzie finds it scandalous that her fav restaurant, GC, has decided to accept food stamps. She&#039;s right . They&#039;re on the dole, like many other corps.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Suzie finds it scandalous that her fav restaurant, GC, has decided to accept food stamps. She&#8217;s right . They&#8217;re on the dole, like many other corps.</p>
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		<title>By: Suzie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Suzie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2012 00:50:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt; I am not interested in pretending it is Obama that done us wrong&lt;/em&gt;

Just wondering what Sandi thinks about obama running ads in Mexico telling the folks there how they can get food stamps here.   And what does she think about the Food Stamp President opening SNAP up to restaurants like the Golden Corral?  Does this sound like the work of an administration that is serious about controlling spending?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em> I am not interested in pretending it is Obama that done us wrong</em></p>
<p>Just wondering what Sandi thinks about obama running ads in Mexico telling the folks there how they can get food stamps here.   And what does she think about the Food Stamp President opening SNAP up to restaurants like the Golden Corral?  Does this sound like the work of an administration that is serious about controlling spending?</p>
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