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		<title>By: Sandi Saunders</title>
		<link>http://blogs.roanoke.com/dancasey/2012/12/this-reader-has-a-question-for-dan/#comment-253110</link>
		<dc:creator>Sandi Saunders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 17:57:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is readily apparent why no right wingers sign their actual name to anything they write.  Leon, you are painfully and pitifully wrong.  You prove with every post what you do not know.  I am not interested in trying to &quot;prove&quot; what is so obviously wrong.  Your ODS has gotten the best of you and you are granting both power and influence no president has, not even Obama.

I will waste my time with some suggested reading:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/Presimetrics-Facts-Presidents-Measure-Issues/dp/1579128351&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Presimetrics: What the Facts Tell Us About How the Presidents Measure Up On the Issues We Care About&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://presimetrics.com/?p=634&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;How Keynesian Policy Led Economic Growth In the New Deal Era: Three Simple Graph&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;Three Simple Graph&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Romney campaign says stimulus doesn’t work. Here are the studies they left out.
&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://economistsview.typepad.com/economistsview/2011/10/fiscal-stimulus-works.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Fiscal Stimulus Works&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/16/opinion/sunday/dont-tell-anyone-but-the-stimulus-worked.html?_r=0&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Don’t Tell Anyone, but the Stimulus Worked&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is readily apparent why no right wingers sign their actual name to anything they write.  Leon, you are painfully and pitifully wrong.  You prove with every post what you do not know.  I am not interested in trying to &#8220;prove&#8221; what is so obviously wrong.  Your ODS has gotten the best of you and you are granting both power and influence no president has, not even Obama.</p>
<p>I will waste my time with some suggested reading:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Presimetrics-Facts-Presidents-Measure-Issues/dp/1579128351" rel="nofollow">Presimetrics: What the Facts Tell Us About How the Presidents Measure Up On the Issues We Care About</a></p>
<p><a href="http://presimetrics.com/?p=634" rel="nofollow">How Keynesian Policy Led Economic Growth In the New Deal Era: Three Simple Graph</a></p>
<p><a href="Three Simple Graph" rel="nofollow">The Romney campaign says stimulus doesn’t work. Here are the studies they left out.<br />
</a></p>
<p><a href="http://economistsview.typepad.com/economistsview/2011/10/fiscal-stimulus-works.html" rel="nofollow">Fiscal Stimulus Works</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/16/opinion/sunday/dont-tell-anyone-but-the-stimulus-worked.html?_r=0" rel="nofollow">Don’t Tell Anyone, but the Stimulus Worked</a></p>
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		<title>By: Warren</title>
		<link>http://blogs.roanoke.com/dancasey/2012/12/this-reader-has-a-question-for-dan/#comment-253109</link>
		<dc:creator>Warren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 17:57:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;with the Fed creating $85.0 billion a month in new currency. . .making every dollar in circulation go down in value each time one is printed&quot;

Leon, you&#039;re still thinking about the current Fed policy in terms of the macro-economic environment from years ago, because you obviously think that the Fed&#039;s current actions must inevitably create inflation. And while it could in the economic context of the several decades prior to 2008, and the threat isn’t entirely gone, it’s a very different environment today. Just a couple days ago, I tried to explain this to Another Chuck, and the very next day, Bernanke gave more specifics about the employment and growth metrics that the Fed is using to calibrate its&#039; monetary easing.     

So Leon, here&#039;s a recap of the basic reasons why your alarm about inflation is at this point, well, inflated:

The basic idea is that the Fed is only replacing value that was lost in the hollowing of the markets by the 2008 crisises, not adding extra inflationary liquidity.     
     
The Fed’s QE programs have been done in the context of severe deflationary pressures, not inflationary, so while managing the aftermath of those easing decisions will have challenges, it’s a different set of problems than is faced in a war on inflation.
 
The 2008 credit crisis hardly gave the yield curve on U.S. treasury debt time to predict the recessionary aftermath of the crisis, which made the first easing necessary and gave subsequent easing plenty of room too, and the yield curve still has not shown a substantial reversion to a highly inflationary curve yet.
 
Remember, we don’t want to go back to the falsely inflated pre-2008 bubble, but those price levels had to kept from completely collapsing for there to be a feasible path to recovery, and some demand maintained. While anemic job growth in a slow recovery is painful, it’s preferable to the wage and price pressures from a too rapid expansion. Done right, the management of recovery will leave us with an economy at 2008 levels (or better) that actually deserves its&#039; valuations.
 
Keep in mind the adage about pushing on a string: Monetary policy is asymmetric; i’s easier to stop an expansion than to end a severe contraction.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;with the Fed creating $85.0 billion a month in new currency. . .making every dollar in circulation go down in value each time one is printed&#8221;</p>
<p>Leon, you&#8217;re still thinking about the current Fed policy in terms of the macro-economic environment from years ago, because you obviously think that the Fed&#8217;s current actions must inevitably create inflation. And while it could in the economic context of the several decades prior to 2008, and the threat isn’t entirely gone, it’s a very different environment today. Just a couple days ago, I tried to explain this to Another Chuck, and the very next day, Bernanke gave more specifics about the employment and growth metrics that the Fed is using to calibrate its&#8217; monetary easing.     </p>
<p>So Leon, here&#8217;s a recap of the basic reasons why your alarm about inflation is at this point, well, inflated:</p>
<p>The basic idea is that the Fed is only replacing value that was lost in the hollowing of the markets by the 2008 crisises, not adding extra inflationary liquidity.     </p>
<p>The Fed’s QE programs have been done in the context of severe deflationary pressures, not inflationary, so while managing the aftermath of those easing decisions will have challenges, it’s a different set of problems than is faced in a war on inflation.</p>
<p>The 2008 credit crisis hardly gave the yield curve on U.S. treasury debt time to predict the recessionary aftermath of the crisis, which made the first easing necessary and gave subsequent easing plenty of room too, and the yield curve still has not shown a substantial reversion to a highly inflationary curve yet.</p>
<p>Remember, we don’t want to go back to the falsely inflated pre-2008 bubble, but those price levels had to kept from completely collapsing for there to be a feasible path to recovery, and some demand maintained. While anemic job growth in a slow recovery is painful, it’s preferable to the wage and price pressures from a too rapid expansion. Done right, the management of recovery will leave us with an economy at 2008 levels (or better) that actually deserves its&#8217; valuations.</p>
<p>Keep in mind the adage about pushing on a string: Monetary policy is asymmetric; i’s easier to stop an expansion than to end a severe contraction.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Casey</title>
		<link>http://blogs.roanoke.com/dancasey/2012/12/this-reader-has-a-question-for-dan/#comment-253095</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Casey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 17:18:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;&quot;Stimulus 1 failed, so did 2, then 3. Can’t stimulate the economy and payoff your cronies and political favors at the same time.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

This is a ridiculous statement. The stimulus measures succeeded. Without the first one, many companies would not have been able to make payroll. Since round 2, the economy has created at least 4.5 million private sector jobs. 

Leon, you really need to quit that steady diet of Tea Party dogma you&#039;re feeding your mind.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>&#8220;Stimulus 1 failed, so did 2, then 3. Can’t stimulate the economy and payoff your cronies and political favors at the same time.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>This is a ridiculous statement. The stimulus measures succeeded. Without the first one, many companies would not have been able to make payroll. Since round 2, the economy has created at least 4.5 million private sector jobs. </p>
<p>Leon, you really need to quit that steady diet of Tea Party dogma you&#8217;re feeding your mind.</p>
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		<title>By: Leon</title>
		<link>http://blogs.roanoke.com/dancasey/2012/12/this-reader-has-a-question-for-dan/#comment-253083</link>
		<dc:creator>Leon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 16:52:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Leon, it is very simple: I understand how the world and government work. You do not appear to at all. 

Comment by Sandi Saunders — December 14, 2012 @ 11:28 am 

Stimulus 1 failed, so did 2, then 3.  Can&#039;t stimulate the economy and payoff your cronies and political favors at the same time.  QE 1 failed,
QE 2 failed, now we have QE 3 with the Fed creating $85.0 billion a month in new currency. . .making every dollar in circulation go down in value each time one is printed.  Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results defies common sense yet this administration (and Sandi) keep on and on with the same mantra.  Obama owns the economy and is going down as fast as Bernanke can print dollars for Obama to give
to bankrupt green energy sham companies owned by his political cronies.
This is truth Sandi, even you cannot deny it.  

As to what I understand; it really is none of your business.  IMO, you could not pour whiz out of a boot even if the instructions were written on the heel.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leon, it is very simple: I understand how the world and government work. You do not appear to at all. </p>
<p>Comment by Sandi Saunders — December 14, 2012 @ 11:28 am </p>
<p>Stimulus 1 failed, so did 2, then 3.  Can&#8217;t stimulate the economy and payoff your cronies and political favors at the same time.  QE 1 failed,<br />
QE 2 failed, now we have QE 3 with the Fed creating $85.0 billion a month in new currency. . .making every dollar in circulation go down in value each time one is printed.  Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results defies common sense yet this administration (and Sandi) keep on and on with the same mantra.  Obama owns the economy and is going down as fast as Bernanke can print dollars for Obama to give<br />
to bankrupt green energy sham companies owned by his political cronies.<br />
This is truth Sandi, even you cannot deny it.  </p>
<p>As to what I understand; it really is none of your business.  IMO, you could not pour whiz out of a boot even if the instructions were written on the heel.</p>
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		<title>By: Sandi Saunders</title>
		<link>http://blogs.roanoke.com/dancasey/2012/12/this-reader-has-a-question-for-dan/#comment-253081</link>
		<dc:creator>Sandi Saunders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 16:50:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Maybe some perspective would help:
http://www.statisticbrain.com/welfare-statistics/

Percent of the US population on welfare  4.1%

US Population: 311,591,917 (2011)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe some perspective would help:<br />
<a href="http://www.statisticbrain.com/welfare-statistics/" rel="nofollow">http://www.statisticbrain.com/welfare-statistics/</a></p>
<p>Percent of the US population on welfare  4.1%</p>
<p>US Population: 311,591,917 (2011)</p>
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		<title>By: Sandi Saunders</title>
		<link>http://blogs.roanoke.com/dancasey/2012/12/this-reader-has-a-question-for-dan/#comment-253074</link>
		<dc:creator>Sandi Saunders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 16:28:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Leon, it is very simple:  I understand how the world and government work. You do not appear to at all. 

It is not even possible for the Obama administration to be responsible for what you list and it is people like you who are perpetuating the division and class warfare, not Obama.  The recession hit this nation (and the world) hard, but nothing Obama has done has made any of that worse.  It simply and literally has not.  The more people on &quot;welfare&quot; and food stamps, as well as the unemployed and struggling businesses are ALL because of the recession and the slow recovery.  It would have been the same (only with dumber quotes) had McCain/Palin been in charge and why you and others believe the President has such authority and power over our economy, even in the face of the obvious right wing obstruction at every turn, will remain a mystery for the ages.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leon, it is very simple:  I understand how the world and government work. You do not appear to at all. </p>
<p>It is not even possible for the Obama administration to be responsible for what you list and it is people like you who are perpetuating the division and class warfare, not Obama.  The recession hit this nation (and the world) hard, but nothing Obama has done has made any of that worse.  It simply and literally has not.  The more people on &#8220;welfare&#8221; and food stamps, as well as the unemployed and struggling businesses are ALL because of the recession and the slow recovery.  It would have been the same (only with dumber quotes) had McCain/Palin been in charge and why you and others believe the President has such authority and power over our economy, even in the face of the obvious right wing obstruction at every turn, will remain a mystery for the ages.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Casey</title>
		<link>http://blogs.roanoke.com/dancasey/2012/12/this-reader-has-a-question-for-dan/#comment-253071</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Casey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 16:16:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hubert Hunley,

1) Half of the country is not on &quot;some sort of government aid.&quot; That&#039;s a lie, propagated by the Republicans during the last campaign.

2) The past 30 years have indeed pushed many &quot;working people&quot; from the middle classes into lower income classes. It&#039;s largely because of tax policies that have benefited the wealthy classes, which widened the income gap, while spending continued. Now conservatives are trying to dump all that debt on the middle and lower classes, who haven&#039;t gained much in the past 30 years, while making sure the wealthy don&#039;t have to pay anything more to help fix the problem.

3) In your letter you mischaracterized the facts of the article. You had to do that to make your point. You wrote, &lt;em&gt;&quot;I was surprised that you would include their own words that this has started in the last four years.&quot;&lt;/em&gt; That is not what Mr. Millner said in the article, or what he told me. He told me the decline started 6 years ago, and that he hasn&#039;t made any money in the past four. Those facts undercut your point.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hubert Hunley,</p>
<p>1) Half of the country is not on &#8220;some sort of government aid.&#8221; That&#8217;s a lie, propagated by the Republicans during the last campaign.</p>
<p>2) The past 30 years have indeed pushed many &#8220;working people&#8221; from the middle classes into lower income classes. It&#8217;s largely because of tax policies that have benefited the wealthy classes, which widened the income gap, while spending continued. Now conservatives are trying to dump all that debt on the middle and lower classes, who haven&#8217;t gained much in the past 30 years, while making sure the wealthy don&#8217;t have to pay anything more to help fix the problem.</p>
<p>3) In your letter you mischaracterized the facts of the article. You had to do that to make your point. You wrote, <em>&#8220;I was surprised that you would include their own words that this has started in the last four years.&#8221;</em> That is not what Mr. Millner said in the article, or what he told me. He told me the decline started 6 years ago, and that he hasn&#8217;t made any money in the past four. Those facts undercut your point.</p>
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		<title>By: hubert hunley</title>
		<link>http://blogs.roanoke.com/dancasey/2012/12/this-reader-has-a-question-for-dan/#comment-253061</link>
		<dc:creator>hubert hunley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 15:52:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Screwy Perspective Dan. Come on buddy, can&#039;t you do better than that. It all depends on which side of the fence you were raised on. My perspective comes from the country I grew up in back in the 50s and 60s, when people helped each other, and there was close family bonding. I&#039;m not suggesting we go back in time, but I am suggesting we bring back the family values and patriotism that we are quickly loosing.That&#039;s right Dan, I&#039;m old school. Back when John F.Kennedy and Martin Luther King really did have a dream,if only they could have lived to fulfill them. Yes Dan, I was a John F. Kennedy supporter as was my parents and I proudly voted for Ronald Reagan also. Unfortunately today , half of the country is on some sort of Government aid and the other half is expected to carry the whole load. I am a small business owner Dan and my business has definitely declined in the past four years.. I have been for 31 years. I started with nothing but my hands, a old pickup, and some tools I could get from family members and flea markets. My parents had nothing but what they earned by working. No inherited money or rich relatives. My wife grew up in the same setting as I have described above. Back then, working people were considered middle class. Now you have about half the country on Government aid, another large percentage can&#039;t find work, and the rest are footing the bill. I cannot for the life of me understand how this could be considered  going in the right direction. All we are becoming is a divided nation. You tell me, Dan, if my perspective is so screwy, what is your solution to this country&#039;s degrading infrastructure and our reputation abroad. Is it to let the Government control our every move? It has never worked in passed history. How do you decide when the Government has enough control. After we tax the 1% with a higher tax rate and that doesn&#039;t help, what will be next, retirement accounts, 401KI, your savings.I believe the only way this country is ever going to get back on track is number one, you have leaders in the White House, Senate, and the House that are true Americans and their number one goal in their career as a politician is to better this country. Politicians like the great John F. Kennedy, and Ronald Regan. These men, along with great contributors like Martin Luther King who&#039;s message was to come together and unite as a country are missing now.  I&#039;m afraid this country has become so divided, that we are beginning it&#039;s downfall. So as screwy as it may sound to some, I am old school and I will not be changing my mind anytime soon. I will read your response sir, but I will not be replying back on this blog. I appreciate the opportunity you have given the me to voice my opinions.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Screwy Perspective Dan. Come on buddy, can&#8217;t you do better than that. It all depends on which side of the fence you were raised on. My perspective comes from the country I grew up in back in the 50s and 60s, when people helped each other, and there was close family bonding. I&#8217;m not suggesting we go back in time, but I am suggesting we bring back the family values and patriotism that we are quickly loosing.That&#8217;s right Dan, I&#8217;m old school. Back when John F.Kennedy and Martin Luther King really did have a dream,if only they could have lived to fulfill them. Yes Dan, I was a John F. Kennedy supporter as was my parents and I proudly voted for Ronald Reagan also. Unfortunately today , half of the country is on some sort of Government aid and the other half is expected to carry the whole load. I am a small business owner Dan and my business has definitely declined in the past four years.. I have been for 31 years. I started with nothing but my hands, a old pickup, and some tools I could get from family members and flea markets. My parents had nothing but what they earned by working. No inherited money or rich relatives. My wife grew up in the same setting as I have described above. Back then, working people were considered middle class. Now you have about half the country on Government aid, another large percentage can&#8217;t find work, and the rest are footing the bill. I cannot for the life of me understand how this could be considered  going in the right direction. All we are becoming is a divided nation. You tell me, Dan, if my perspective is so screwy, what is your solution to this country&#8217;s degrading infrastructure and our reputation abroad. Is it to let the Government control our every move? It has never worked in passed history. How do you decide when the Government has enough control. After we tax the 1% with a higher tax rate and that doesn&#8217;t help, what will be next, retirement accounts, 401KI, your savings.I believe the only way this country is ever going to get back on track is number one, you have leaders in the White House, Senate, and the House that are true Americans and their number one goal in their career as a politician is to better this country. Politicians like the great John F. Kennedy, and Ronald Regan. These men, along with great contributors like Martin Luther King who&#8217;s message was to come together and unite as a country are missing now.  I&#8217;m afraid this country has become so divided, that we are beginning it&#8217;s downfall. So as screwy as it may sound to some, I am old school and I will not be changing my mind anytime soon. I will read your response sir, but I will not be replying back on this blog. I appreciate the opportunity you have given the me to voice my opinions.</p>
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		<title>By: Cold n P</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cold n P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 15:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@37.  Tell that to Scooter Libby.  The last (real) GOP pres stood up for him when the kitchen got warm, didn&#039;t he.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@37.  Tell that to Scooter Libby.  The last (real) GOP pres stood up for him when the kitchen got warm, didn&#8217;t he.</p>
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		<title>By: J.M. White</title>
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		<dc:creator>J.M. White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 14:31:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gah! Why has no one pointed out my terrible math and the irony of me griping about irony and &quot;math not being complicated&quot;? I mean, the point is the same, yeah, but I totally butchered the delivery.

That&#039;ll learn me, dern me, to do payroll and blog at the same time. Too many numbers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gah! Why has no one pointed out my terrible math and the irony of me griping about irony and &#8220;math not being complicated&#8221;? I mean, the point is the same, yeah, but I totally butchered the delivery.</p>
<p>That&#8217;ll learn me, dern me, to do payroll and blog at the same time. Too many numbers.</p>
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