Comments on: Two ways on the Wednesday OPEN thread

By: Dave Hicks

Dave Hicks — Sun, 16 Dec 2012 18:39:24 +0000

Re: Warren — December 15, 2012 @ 1:40 pm

Your disingenuous question was answered on http://tinyurl.com/d8qgq37 posted on December 15, 2012 @ 7:08 pm

So tell me, how often have you attacked the weak or poorly put arguments from bloggers on the same side of a debate as you, yourself, are supporting? If you have no good examples of you having initiated attacks on folk on your side of a debate, when they use arguments that you would not use, is that intellectually dishonesty?

By: Warren

Warren — Sat, 15 Dec 2012 18:40:21 +0000

Make that “I”, then Dave Hicks. What’s the logical validity of invoking anecdotes to try to disprove a larger data set? You’ve been transparent about not applying your proud logic skills to that tactic whenever it’s done to minimize violent episodes. Can one understand logic and still be intellectually dishonest in the selective application of it?

By: Dave Hicks

Dave Hicks — Sat, 15 Dec 2012 01:03:34 +0000

Re: Warren @ 12:18 pm

Who is “we”?

You prefer that logic be set aside?

By: Kristen

Kristen — Fri, 14 Dec 2012 19:34:56 +0000

Prediction – Suzie disappears from this thread.

That’s ok, Cantaloupe. We can cut and paste. You’ll see this again.

By: Jason

Jason — Fri, 14 Dec 2012 19:09:22 +0000

Warren-
“Consider this Dave Hicks: We’ve already tried to ask the only person on this blog who makes a big show of posting logic tutorials to pass judgement on the validity of using random anecdotes measured in the dozens to offset the message of gun violence statistics measured in the tens of thousands. If that logic lecturer is unwilling to apply it to those who use anecdotes to excuse data, then we shouldn’t expect it from Dan either.”

If you aren’t referring to me, then ignore what follows. To repeat, I did not post those stories to balance some metaphorical scale. Here’s the sequence:
*Sandi asks where the upside is for so many people owning guns.
*I gave examples of upside, namely people defending themselves.

That’s all. Sandi wanted upside, I gave her some upside.

By: Saintbridge

Saintbridge — Fri, 14 Dec 2012 19:05:29 +0000

@116: There is an element to randomness in what you describe: traffic accidents, drownings. Today in a matter of seconds — SECONDS — 18 children were murdered by a man with a gun. They had no choice. What’s the threshold? 20 children? 30? 50? 1 of yours? Just tell me where we can start the discussion. And it will include restrictions on gun purchase and use, because it isn’t enough that 99% of the people who have guns legally are law-abiding.

By: Ron May

Ron May — Fri, 14 Dec 2012 18:54:07 +0000

Dan, if you want to write an article about how my carrying a gun today didn’t result in injuries or deaths, I went to Sheetz, my wife’s doctor’s appointment, Kroger and Northside Middle School this afternoon/evening while carrying.

Comment by Jack — December 13, 2012 @ 7:43 pm

Jack,

Too bad you didn’t come to visit my campus. We would have asked you politely to leave your gun in your vehicle. Had you refused to do so, we would have called the county sheriff and had you arrested. We are allowed to do that in Indiana.

By: Leon

Leon — Fri, 14 Dec 2012 18:49:08 +0000

Precisely, Dave Hicks. Millions and millions more guns are being sold and presumably carried, maybe even “used” and yet the killings keep coming, the malls don’t feel safe, schools don’t feel safe, restaurants, work, simple arguments, more and more we feel less and less safe. At what point is this mass gun ownership going to have an upside?

Comment by Sandi Saunders — December 12, 2012 @ 10:32 pm

FYI Sandi; numerous(many) studies statistically conclude that the more armed citizens there are in a locality results in a reduction in crime rate. Therefore, the answer to your query is mass gun ownership is already having a positive effect. Besides, as usual, you’re not thinking
things through and as a result, address the wrong problem. In the last month four people have died in vehicle accidents on Rt 24. . .when will they close this road? Last year a number of people drowned in SML yet. . .they have not drained the lake! Your feigned compassion and concern must seemingly be based either on ignorance or hypocrisy. Please tell, which?

By: gdad

gdad — Fri, 14 Dec 2012 18:19:58 +0000

“We have been through all this before and your continued bouts with revision are not going to work. Ever.”

We’re watching suzie slowly deteriorate back into her old trolling ways. Didn’t take long. Wonder how long before Dan has to start deleting her posts again?

By: Kristen

Kristen — Fri, 14 Dec 2012 18:11:40 +0000

“107.Gaudaloupe.
The ‘ou’ is a variant. The ‘au’ is a typo. Girl doesn’t make spelling mistakes.
Comment by Suzie — December 13, 2012 @ 10:16 pm ”

“Showing results for guadeloupe

Search instead for gaudaloupe”

Doh!
Maybe it could be Our Lady of Cantaloupe.