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		<title>By: Phil Chitwood</title>
		<link>http://blogs.roanoke.com/dancasey/2013/01/danger-on-the-monday-open-thread/#comment-274276</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil Chitwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2013 23:06:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;the Connecticut state police reported that they recovered 2 handguns &amp; a Bushmaster .223 rifle from inside the school, and inside Lanza’s car was a shotgun.&quot;  

Correct.....an AR15 was used.  But the point is moot.  Either handgun, the 9mm or the 10mm found on the killer, could have produced the same results within the same time frame as the AR.  The children were all hemmed up in a classroom.  He had and used an AR, but he did not need an AR.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;the Connecticut state police reported that they recovered 2 handguns &amp; a Bushmaster .223 rifle from inside the school, and inside Lanza’s car was a shotgun.&#8221;  </p>
<p>Correct&#8230;..an AR15 was used.  But the point is moot.  Either handgun, the 9mm or the 10mm found on the killer, could have produced the same results within the same time frame as the AR.  The children were all hemmed up in a classroom.  He had and used an AR, but he did not need an AR.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Casey</title>
		<link>http://blogs.roanoke.com/dancasey/2013/01/danger-on-the-monday-open-thread/#comment-274262</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Casey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2013 22:43:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;&quot;Sandi, I am not going to name, disclose or otherwise offer proof in any public forum of which schools are more lax than others in their security measures, particularly not on an internet blog forum given the nuts and whackos that spend their entire lives surfing the net. To do so would be grossly irresponsible. The funny part is, Dan knows that. He just requests that it be done because he knows he can use my refusal to do so to mislead the uninformed into thinking what I’m saying isn’t true. In fact, both Dans are fully aware of just how irresponsible, almost criminally stupid, doing so would be, but they make the demands to try to discredit anyone who disagrees with them.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;
--Comment by Chuck

Nor has (so far) Chuck privately emailed me about this security issue he considers so important. Apparently, he believes I should visit every elementary school in the state to find the one he&#039;s talking about. That&#039;s what he considers &quot;good old-fashioned newspaper reporting.&quot; LOL.

Advice, Chuck: Don&#039;t ever call in a bomb threat to a public building with the same amount of discretion. I can imagine that one now:

911 operator: Emergency Center!

Chuck: There&#039;s a bomb in a public building!

911 operator: OK, sir. Thank you for calling. What building?

Chuck: I can&#039;t tell you.

911 operator: In what locality?

Chuck: I can&#039;t tell you. That&#039;s for you to figure out, using good old fashioned police investigation techniques!

911 operator: (&lt;em&gt;A bit exasperated&lt;/em&gt;) That&#039;s not how it works, mister. You don&#039;t seriously believe we&#039;re going to send bomb squads to every public building in Virginia, do you?

Chuck: Hey, you&#039;re the investigators, not me. Figure it out!

911 operator: Have a nice day, sir!

Chuck: But . . .

&lt;em&gt;CLICK!&lt;/em&gt;


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>&#8220;Sandi, I am not going to name, disclose or otherwise offer proof in any public forum of which schools are more lax than others in their security measures, particularly not on an internet blog forum given the nuts and whackos that spend their entire lives surfing the net. To do so would be grossly irresponsible. The funny part is, Dan knows that. He just requests that it be done because he knows he can use my refusal to do so to mislead the uninformed into thinking what I’m saying isn’t true. In fact, both Dans are fully aware of just how irresponsible, almost criminally stupid, doing so would be, but they make the demands to try to discredit anyone who disagrees with them.&#8221;</em><br />
&#8211;Comment by Chuck</p>
<p>Nor has (so far) Chuck privately emailed me about this security issue he considers so important. Apparently, he believes I should visit every elementary school in the state to find the one he&#8217;s talking about. That&#8217;s what he considers &#8220;good old-fashioned newspaper reporting.&#8221; LOL.</p>
<p>Advice, Chuck: Don&#8217;t ever call in a bomb threat to a public building with the same amount of discretion. I can imagine that one now:</p>
<p>911 operator: Emergency Center!</p>
<p>Chuck: There&#8217;s a bomb in a public building!</p>
<p>911 operator: OK, sir. Thank you for calling. What building?</p>
<p>Chuck: I can&#8217;t tell you.</p>
<p>911 operator: In what locality?</p>
<p>Chuck: I can&#8217;t tell you. That&#8217;s for you to figure out, using good old fashioned police investigation techniques!</p>
<p>911 operator: (<em>A bit exasperated</em>) That&#8217;s not how it works, mister. You don&#8217;t seriously believe we&#8217;re going to send bomb squads to every public building in Virginia, do you?</p>
<p>Chuck: Hey, you&#8217;re the investigators, not me. Figure it out!</p>
<p>911 operator: Have a nice day, sir!</p>
<p>Chuck: But . . .</p>
<p><em>CLICK!</em></p>
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		<title>By: Chuck</title>
		<link>http://blogs.roanoke.com/dancasey/2013/01/danger-on-the-monday-open-thread/#comment-274227</link>
		<dc:creator>Chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2013 21:46:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry for the typo in the last paragraph. It should have said gun control is NOT the only part of the answer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry for the typo in the last paragraph. It should have said gun control is NOT the only part of the answer.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck</title>
		<link>http://blogs.roanoke.com/dancasey/2013/01/danger-on-the-monday-open-thread/#comment-274223</link>
		<dc:creator>Chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2013 21:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not whining about it Sandi. Just pointing out that it is a behavioral pattern for folks like yourself and Dan to ignore the issues and resort to personal attacks when you don&#039;t have a good argument. Yes, our high schools have full time SROs. As do the middle schools, but I thought we were talking about elementary/primary schools. 

 No amount of proof would convince you otherwise Sandi because you make your judgement not on facts but on the politics of who is speaking. You are, of course, free to believe whatever you want. You are wrong, but you are free to be wrong. If public schools aren&#039;t open to the public, what&#039;s the argument against locking the doors when students are present? No Warren, not locking them in. That would violate the fire code. But haven&#039;t you ever been to a movie theater? There are numerous doors that are locked from the outside but that can be opened freely from the inside.

Sandi, I am not going to name, disclose or otherwise offer proof in any public forum of which schools are more lax than others in their security measures, particularly not on an internet blog forum given the nuts and whackos that spend their entire lives surfing the net. To do so would be grossly irresponsible. The funny part is, Dan knows that. He just requests that it be done because he knows he can use my refusal to do so to mislead the uninformed into thinking what I&#039;m saying isn&#039;t true. In fact, both Dans are fully aware of just how irresponsible, almost criminally stupid, doing so would be, but they make the demands to try to discredit anyone who disagrees with them. 

Again, gun control is part of the answer, but it is only part of it. It is not the most effective part in short term and it may never be the most important part. The most important part is the identifying the cause, and that is a mental health and legal issue. Security measures are the best short term response. Gun control has limited potential as a strategic initiative but it will be years before a beneficial result is seen. Personally, I think we should be doing ALL of it, not picking one and ignoring the others because I am not in favor of continuing with 10 more years of school shootings while we wait for an weapons ban to slowly dry up the access to weapons.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not whining about it Sandi. Just pointing out that it is a behavioral pattern for folks like yourself and Dan to ignore the issues and resort to personal attacks when you don&#8217;t have a good argument. Yes, our high schools have full time SROs. As do the middle schools, but I thought we were talking about elementary/primary schools. </p>
<p> No amount of proof would convince you otherwise Sandi because you make your judgement not on facts but on the politics of who is speaking. You are, of course, free to believe whatever you want. You are wrong, but you are free to be wrong. If public schools aren&#8217;t open to the public, what&#8217;s the argument against locking the doors when students are present? No Warren, not locking them in. That would violate the fire code. But haven&#8217;t you ever been to a movie theater? There are numerous doors that are locked from the outside but that can be opened freely from the inside.</p>
<p>Sandi, I am not going to name, disclose or otherwise offer proof in any public forum of which schools are more lax than others in their security measures, particularly not on an internet blog forum given the nuts and whackos that spend their entire lives surfing the net. To do so would be grossly irresponsible. The funny part is, Dan knows that. He just requests that it be done because he knows he can use my refusal to do so to mislead the uninformed into thinking what I&#8217;m saying isn&#8217;t true. In fact, both Dans are fully aware of just how irresponsible, almost criminally stupid, doing so would be, but they make the demands to try to discredit anyone who disagrees with them. </p>
<p>Again, gun control is part of the answer, but it is only part of it. It is not the most effective part in short term and it may never be the most important part. The most important part is the identifying the cause, and that is a mental health and legal issue. Security measures are the best short term response. Gun control has limited potential as a strategic initiative but it will be years before a beneficial result is seen. Personally, I think we should be doing ALL of it, not picking one and ignoring the others because I am not in favor of continuing with 10 more years of school shootings while we wait for an weapons ban to slowly dry up the access to weapons.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Radmacher</title>
		<link>http://blogs.roanoke.com/dancasey/2013/01/danger-on-the-monday-open-thread/#comment-274194</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Radmacher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2013 20:48:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not that facts matter to some, but does &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ctpost.com/newtownshooting/article/State-Police-All-26-Newtown-victims-shot-with-4222299.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this address your woefully outdated and incorrect link adequately enough for you&lt;/a&gt;?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not that facts matter to some, but does <a href="http://www.ctpost.com/newtownshooting/article/State-Police-All-26-Newtown-victims-shot-with-4222299.php" rel="nofollow">this address your woefully outdated and incorrect link adequately enough for you</a>?</p>
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		<title>By: Sandi Saunders</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sandi Saunders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2013 00:54:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Funny how you can so easily attack others but then whine about it being returned Chuck.  Interesting.

I do not know of any school with nearly the lax and open doors and campus you seem to see but refuse to disclose.  Most local high schools here DO have at least a part time Resource Officer and all have been in the local news as working on better security.  Walmarts are open to the public. Schools are not.  There is simply no comparison and I think you are wrong and until you offer evidence that you are not, that will remain my experience.  

Attack over.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny how you can so easily attack others but then whine about it being returned Chuck.  Interesting.</p>
<p>I do not know of any school with nearly the lax and open doors and campus you seem to see but refuse to disclose.  Most local high schools here DO have at least a part time Resource Officer and all have been in the local news as working on better security.  Walmarts are open to the public. Schools are not.  There is simply no comparison and I think you are wrong and until you offer evidence that you are not, that will remain my experience.  </p>
<p>Attack over.</p>
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		<title>By: Lori</title>
		<link>http://blogs.roanoke.com/dancasey/2013/01/danger-on-the-monday-open-thread/#comment-272815</link>
		<dc:creator>Lori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2013 00:30:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Chuck, that report by MSNBC/NBC was later updated (there&#039;s even an &quot;editor&#039;s note at the start). The reporting was false; on January 18, the Connecticut state police reported that they recovered 2 handguns &amp; a Bushmaster .223 rifle from inside the school, and inside Lanza&#039;s car was a shotgun. 
http://www.ct.gov/despp/cwp/view.asp?Q=517284]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chuck, that report by MSNBC/NBC was later updated (there&#8217;s even an &#8220;editor&#8217;s note at the start). The reporting was false; on January 18, the Connecticut state police reported that they recovered 2 handguns &amp; a Bushmaster .223 rifle from inside the school, and inside Lanza&#8217;s car was a shotgun.<br />
<a href="http://www.ct.gov/despp/cwp/view.asp?Q=517284" rel="nofollow">http://www.ct.gov/despp/cwp/view.asp?Q=517284</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dan Casey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Casey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2013 00:13:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;&quot;You guys can attack me personally all you like. It is telling. When you have no answers, you go on the attack.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;
--Comment by Chuck

No, Chuck, we can&#039;t attack you personally. Because all you are is a first name on a silly blog. At least I have an identity; so do some of the other here. You don&#039;t.

Now why don&#039;t you start acting like a grownup and tell us what in tarnation school you&#039;re talking about? Or is that information -- which you&#039;re demanding a story about, like spoiled 3-year-old -- too sensitive for you to divulge?

Or, do you still believe that, in the spirit of &quot;good old-fashioned newspaper&quot; reporting (which exists only your your three-quarters whacked mind) I should visit every school in Virginia and find out for myself?

You guys make me laugh. You&#039;re such know-it-alls. Some of you have no idea what the real world is like.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>&#8220;You guys can attack me personally all you like. It is telling. When you have no answers, you go on the attack.&#8221;</em><br />
&#8211;Comment by Chuck</p>
<p>No, Chuck, we can&#8217;t attack you personally. Because all you are is a first name on a silly blog. At least I have an identity; so do some of the other here. You don&#8217;t.</p>
<p>Now why don&#8217;t you start acting like a grownup and tell us what in tarnation school you&#8217;re talking about? Or is that information &#8212; which you&#8217;re demanding a story about, like spoiled 3-year-old &#8212; too sensitive for you to divulge?</p>
<p>Or, do you still believe that, in the spirit of &#8220;good old-fashioned newspaper&#8221; reporting (which exists only your your three-quarters whacked mind) I should visit every school in Virginia and find out for myself?</p>
<p>You guys make me laugh. You&#8217;re such know-it-alls. Some of you have no idea what the real world is like.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck</title>
		<link>http://blogs.roanoke.com/dancasey/2013/01/danger-on-the-monday-open-thread/#comment-272776</link>
		<dc:creator>Chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2013 23:11:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dan, I&#039;m sorry you were so offended. I find it intriguing that you don&#039;t seem to think being &quot;an anonymous blog entity&quot; like gdad, Kristen or Cold in P, diminishes one&#039;s cedibility until the &quot;entity&quot; disagrees with you or makes an argument that you can&#039;t refute. In any event, clearly I wasn&#039;t talking to you as no one would ever mistake you for a reporter. Columnist and hypocrite yes. Reporter? No. A reporter would use an accurate quote instead of paraphrasing my statement into what he wanted it to say to facilitate an ad hominem attack. What I said was:

&quot;Schools in my district won’t lock the back door. Hell, some of them won’t even close it . . .&quot; 

Does that make it clearer for you? If they won&#039;t close the door, you can reasonably infer that it is still there. In a subsequent post I said:

&quot; Do you think a school with doors propped open . . .&quot;

That would seem to indicate that they are in fact, propping the door open, right? 

Warren, you actually compared a call to lock the doors at schools with turning them into North Korea, and you think I was the one being melodramatic? Really? Maybe you could use a painful peek in your hypothetical mirror.

Dan, I think your description of &quot;how it works&quot; with your type of media explains a lot. Have a nice day yourself.  

You guys can attack me personally all you like. It is telling. When you have no answers, you go on the attack. Still though, you didn&#039;t address this.

http://video.today.msnbc.msn.com/today/50208495#50208495]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan, I&#8217;m sorry you were so offended. I find it intriguing that you don&#8217;t seem to think being &#8220;an anonymous blog entity&#8221; like gdad, Kristen or Cold in P, diminishes one&#8217;s cedibility until the &#8220;entity&#8221; disagrees with you or makes an argument that you can&#8217;t refute. In any event, clearly I wasn&#8217;t talking to you as no one would ever mistake you for a reporter. Columnist and hypocrite yes. Reporter? No. A reporter would use an accurate quote instead of paraphrasing my statement into what he wanted it to say to facilitate an ad hominem attack. What I said was:</p>
<p>&#8220;Schools in my district won’t lock the back door. Hell, some of them won’t even close it . . .&#8221; </p>
<p>Does that make it clearer for you? If they won&#8217;t close the door, you can reasonably infer that it is still there. In a subsequent post I said:</p>
<p>&#8221; Do you think a school with doors propped open . . .&#8221;</p>
<p>That would seem to indicate that they are in fact, propping the door open, right? </p>
<p>Warren, you actually compared a call to lock the doors at schools with turning them into North Korea, and you think I was the one being melodramatic? Really? Maybe you could use a painful peek in your hypothetical mirror.</p>
<p>Dan, I think your description of &#8220;how it works&#8221; with your type of media explains a lot. Have a nice day yourself.  </p>
<p>You guys can attack me personally all you like. It is telling. When you have no answers, you go on the attack. Still though, you didn&#8217;t address this.</p>
<p><a href="http://video.today.msnbc.msn.com/today/50208495#50208495" rel="nofollow">http://video.today.msnbc.msn.com/today/50208495#50208495</a></p>
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		<title>By: Lori</title>
		<link>http://blogs.roanoke.com/dancasey/2013/01/danger-on-the-monday-open-thread/#comment-272750</link>
		<dc:creator>Lori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2013 21:56:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;if they thought they could get the votes&quot; 
Comment by John Wilburn — January 23, 2013 @ 9:52 pm

And they know they can&#039;t. They know that while Americans may be ok with an assault weapons ban, or prohibiting the mentally ill from possessing weapons is ok, they will NEVER be ok with prohibition of all firearms. As I stated before, just because one (2?) lawmakers in Washington want it to happen, doesn&#039;t mean it will (see my Ron Paul reference).  Do you think that the American people are so lazy as to allow the repeal of the 2nd Amendment?

If you believe the 2nd Amendment allows you to carry arms for the purposes of having a militia, are you also entitled to all weaponry of a modern military? At what point does your right to be a &quot;militia&quot; end?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;if they thought they could get the votes&#8221;<br />
Comment by John Wilburn — January 23, 2013 @ 9:52 pm</p>
<p>And they know they can&#8217;t. They know that while Americans may be ok with an assault weapons ban, or prohibiting the mentally ill from possessing weapons is ok, they will NEVER be ok with prohibition of all firearms. As I stated before, just because one (2?) lawmakers in Washington want it to happen, doesn&#8217;t mean it will (see my Ron Paul reference).  Do you think that the American people are so lazy as to allow the repeal of the 2nd Amendment?</p>
<p>If you believe the 2nd Amendment allows you to carry arms for the purposes of having a militia, are you also entitled to all weaponry of a modern military? At what point does your right to be a &#8220;militia&#8221; end?</p>
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